₦airaland Forum

LorDBolton:
Baba it is you who keeps proving your unintelligence.

I boldly stated patience jonathan suit has no bearing on this case in reality, consult a smart lawyer to let u know this is politics not law at play hence my initial statement.

But hey! you typify the usual naija man's ignorance ( the inability to see beyond your nose)

Bye.

Ignorant fellows always claiming I too know and each time show their ignorance for all to see. ...Oga it's d judges prerogative, if he decides to suspend sentence pending D decision on patience jonathan suit @ D high court den so b it.... If ur D one to decide wht is right or wrong or political or not, why r u here on nairaland n not seating on d bench.....educate urself young man

omamush:
still blaming the past administration.. don't worry we will make sure u abscond come 2019

Hahahaha abscond to were, keep living the dream, u tink these thwarts here on nairaland represent D minds of right thinking Nigerians, we r over 200mil peoole n dese country, we r watchn D steps D govt is taking, Buhari mite not get it all right but we r watching ND by 2019 right thinking Nigerians will make up deir mind again n vote for sustainability

LorDBolton:
Baba I read the article b4 commenting... thanks

It amounts to duplicity n waste of tax payers funds unless 'it's being politically manipulated"

The "company" pled guilty thus a "sentence" should have been carried out i.e HEFTY FINE (in addition to liquidation of the company/takeover by govt) OR did I say jail term? If you were smart you wouldn't need clarification.

Since the company pled guilty in relation to the money in question(in case the 'trial' of the INDIVIDUALS is a separate issue all together, the trial is supposed to determine the level of culpability of the accused #simple...it has NOTHING to do with the money.

Or can a COMPANY be found guilty yet FACE NO PUNISHMENT??
Sorry but you're the UNINTELLIGENT one here.

Also PEJ case on ownership is irrelevant here because The case has been adjudicated.

Or lemme use another example (s). You gave ur friend ur car to flex the weekend, he uses it to commit a crime(e.g. robbery) what do u think happens to your car? It will be returned to you??

Pls swerve jare. I'll like any lawyer here to tell me what I just posted is wrong + attach proof to contradict it.

The govt was right in its request and the court erred #simple

Oga if u had read d text, u'll c that the judge only found them guilty, buh postponed his sentence because of some issues like d patiences suit at d court, tht doesn't mean he wouldn't sentence dem, he would .......Read posts thoroughly bfre displaying ur poor level of reading and comprehension

LorDBolton:
This is laughable...

Ok the money was laundered...

I expect 'sentencing' not a separate trial again?

Gosh

Oga read the article bfre u show ur unintelligence.

No blow ur babe, kip spending money n b doing best companion, yl one bad sharp guy be bending her over, giving her d touch your toe style.........

AmuDimkpa:
How can anyone even support Nigerian government to borrow $30 billion which will eventually be looted? $30 billion dollars?

Buhari will borrow this money n there's Nuffn u can do bout it, the moni is even too small, wht is 30bil dollars?? . I feel they should have borrowed more.

repogirl:
lmao! It's ironic that a zombie is talking about being dumb and brainless. It seems you are more annoyed about weaves and makeup than the points I made, hence you attack them like a raving lunatic.

I don't need to do any useless research. You should do your research.

Isn't it in the records that Nigeria displaced SA to be the fastest growing economy in Africa? Since you have no idea what bustling means, consult your dictionary and leave Brazilian hair and makeup out of this. The IMF president Lagarde even visited Buhari to warn him about our receding economy but he was making mouth that we will look inwards and solve our problem. Has he finished looking inwards now? Now that we are deep into recession, he has run to the same IMF begging for loans without even a comprehensive, viable blue print on what to use the loan for or how to get us out of this situation and you are saying what? Is that the person that should be trusted with 30 billion dollars? We should trust him blindly? Even if zombies like you will trust him like that , I'm sorry dear but the IMF still have there senses intact.

I am a Nigerian who has experienced live the Obasanjo, Yaradua, GEJ govts and now Buharis own and If you have lost your senses or you are in denial, know this ...Recession did not begin until Buhari took over. Buhari has failed even before he began. If you still have a problem with what I say, read my signature and cure yourself of your zombiesm.

You just reiterated my point that u just cook up stuffs without any fact finding, it terrible n I weep for u wen u say "u dnt need to do any research".. Let me start by saying first of all that u made no point first comment which I quoted, neither have u made any point n this one... I think ur comment is senseless in every sense of d word.. N I mean it..... Here is why:

First u said it was on record tht Nigerian displaced SA to be d fastest growing economy in Africa, I agree, with u. When Buhari came on board Nigeria dropped behind South Africa n I tink Egypt, nd pple like u wailed, but r u aware that Nigeria based on recent report has bounced back to be d fastest growing economy in Africa inspite of the recession : do ur research... So u can't attribute tht to d successes of d previous govt. If been D fastest growing economy in Africa is an achievement then y r u not praising D current govt cos it's also fact n it's on record. Truth is been D fastest growing economy in Africa is largely due to our overwhelming population, as u know we r d most populous black nation. so Tht doesn't reflect on d standard of living of d people. So if Thts what u mean by bustling den d economy is still bustling ryt now.

You talked about d IMF boss warning Buhari about d receding economy, tht was because d IMF boss wanted Buhari to devalue the naira, D IMF boss was wrong, y devalue a currency Tht was already devaluing itself due to lack of forex and depletion of our foreign reserves by d immediate past govt-This is a fact, do ur research to know the Genesis of the problem. I'm not an economist but I know that wen u dnt EARN enough forex, which is due to d fall in oil prices globally , which is no fault of Buhari and d Militancy n d Niger delta causing the output of crude our only source of revenue to cripple by half. In addition to that Jonathan had crippled our foreign reserves which could have been our last hope. It was a dead end for the new president.

Let me take u down Memory lane, I'm taking my time to school u, because u wallow n ignorance.. In 2008 or so, do u remember the global economic crisis, even d US economy entered into a recession, how was yaradua able to save D naira, because countries that depend on naira were d worst hit, nd so we were faced wiv a full blown recession, buh yaradua kept is afloat... How did he do that??

It was the saving that we had from objs regime that was used to defend D naira, week in, week out. Our foreign reserves saved us. I dnt mean excess crude account, thts diff fRm foreign reserve, cos i know I'll bring D gov forced GEJ to share proceeds fRm d excess crude acct. So our reserves was able to keep us afloat n Nigerians didn't feel d hardship because d naira remained stable due to d fact that we have saved alot of foreign exchange.

Now GEJ deeped his hands into our foreign exchange, tht was even more bolstered by yaradua, n depleted it despite having the price of crude oil, stable at over a $100 during his 5yr tenure. We're where u wen NOI was asking us to save for the rainy day, u guys never knew it would come, GEJ failed to heed tht warning, D rainy day has come nd u find it pleasing to blame the new sheriff in town, how wicked can u be.

Are u aware of the crises Tht was about to take place during d tail end of GEJs tenure, are u aware Tht GEJ was already borrowing to pay workers salary, how come immediately Buhari came on board he had to give states bail out fund to pay salaries from a "bubbling economy" as u called it. Truth is u know these facts u just choose to ignore dem n dwell on the once that better ur cause of wailing and defending wrong doing

Now to talk of the loan, there's nothing wrong in borrowing, even biz men borrow to carry out projects Tht wud generate money so they r able to pay back D loan, I find it really hypocritical to say that there's no plan on how d loan would be spent, isn't that dumb??

Are u saying u have not seen or heard d key infrastructural projects Tht d loan Is supposed to finance, or is it tht ur not just dumb, ur blind and deaf also.

The Senate has rejected without even debating but they were so quick to amend the CCT/CCB ACT.... Right thinking Nigerians are watching d drama all of u r putting up to ensure that Buhari fails, u tink ur winning, ur happy.....

Truth is Buhari won't b d one to suffer it, neida will D politicians suffer it, it's d ordinary citizens trying to make ends meet everyday Tht will suffer it, and if this man means well for us, nd pple like u r trying to block D progress like our corrupt senators then posterity will judge u.

I can't tell if he will at d end come out good, if he will take d loan n embezzle it, I dnt know, I dnt trust Nyone, but that doesn't mean we won't take d risk, tht doesn't mean we won't help our situation. The greased risk they say is taking no risk, that is worse off. I drop my pen at this point.

Help urself, educate urself, be informed, try to be objective, analyze situations from both angles bfre making statements that will embarrass u nd show ur emptiness.

repogirl:
They want to borrow money that will forever put us in massive debt with no results that will show for it.

This FG that met a bustling economy and ran it aground now want to borrow and finally bury the country into the ground. The senate did well by curbing it.

I weep wen I c pple like u talk unintelligently on social media, I wonder if we d youth or let me say young adults even carry out research at all

I dnt blame u wen u talk like this, too much attention on Brazilian hair, iphone, Mary Kay powder..has turned our young ladies into dummies.....sometimes I wonder if in a general sense...Ladies in general think because they r ladies then they r allowed to be dumb

Now to d point u made tht its totally a distortion of the truth. What do u mean by he met a "bustling economy". Have u ever researched to find out what d economy was like bfre GEJ entered n what it was bfre he left??

If u have not please do, bfre u make a urself appear dumb

seunmsg:
You cannot diversify the economy under 17 months in a period of very low oil earnings. Diversification can only happen over a long period of time and provision of key infrastructures is key to diversification.

The number of right thinking pple r dwindling day by day, I just pity d president, every tin to make tins right has been opposed by those who r against development.

If u ask me, I'll say he just go ahead nd do what he likes, because dese guys r not ready to allow development.

They r destined to make him fail

Largas:
How can you borrow a heavy Loan for infrastructural development, how will that revamp our dead economy or alleviate suffering in the Land?

Buhari should focus on diversification of the economy and exodusing us out of this misery instead of taking Loans to construct railtracks from Daura to LA.

Dnt u need money to diversify, we just know how to abuse words, everyone is saying diversify, how can u diversify without infrastructure.......we know how to use mouth to do things, buh to take action we kick against...buhari should diversify d economy with his teeth.....

Blizzy9ja:
You dull sha... Since you can't read and understand there's no need fighting with you, you should try and cure ur ignorance

A pure case of receiving a hot slap on ur face by ur mate n saying my dad said I should not fight in school, if not, I would have finished u.

U result to such statements wen u dnt have a superior argument.

I quoted ur statement, what's der to understand??...you said "these tins happened without his knowledge"..... Tht was ur statement.....This is a literal statement.

Blizzy9ja:
Immigration recruitment scam and
death... Very laughable... The only thing that can inspire this gibberish is hate, get a hold of yourself OP... All the rubbish you just listed took place without his knowledge, when he found out he took appropriate actions

What has the dullard done about the illegal abduction of judges by the DSS

what has he done about the illegal recruitment of his friends and family into the CBN without due process

what has he done about the killing of shiite muslims in Kaduna

what has about his chief of staff influencing the fine paid by mtn Nigeria

What has he done about allegations of his government's officials sexually molesting IDPs in the north east

There are a hundred and one questions begging for answers but gullible people like this OP will not see them

You just confirmed his cluelessness, u mean all these took place without his knowledge nd he is d president, so what exactly was he doing, getting high I guess. That's d exact reason he was booted out. Cos too many tins took place without his knowledge... We deserve better than a numb president.....U c urself in a bid to defend d fact tht has been brot bfre u, u rope him in d more....u need healing n deliverance

Collenshy2020:
is jonathan the only president that has ruled Nigeria?

Pple like u result to such statements wen faced with the truth n u dnt have a superior argument.....lame excuse

Nigerians na wa...Dangote said sell national asset, public outcry, oya d man wants to borrow, u shout he wants to us n chains, what do u want him to do??...u tink he is a magician, y is it so hard for pple to c tht he means well??...The era of PDP is gone, let's all embrace it n give this man a chance.

Bruce is complaining, but he has not for once proffered solution, the soln tht he is profferin he is stylishly condemning.

Look round d country, which leader in our political sphere right now is better equipped to lead the country...I dnt know of any.

Let's all support buhari atleast of only for d remainder of his tenure

Achorise:
Sir, if it's the work of the national Assembly and judiciary to make laws to tackle corruption, why do we blame only Jonathan for corrupt practices under his regime, Why didn't the system fight corruption through the legislation of the national Assembly. ??

Secondly, I thought principles are the same every where, what works for the western world should work for Nigeria.

Thirdly under what what arm of government should we classify the introduction if BVM and TSA,
Executive,
Legislature,
Judiciary.

Are they some benefits realized from the introduction of BVM introduced by GEJ as a morden means to fight corruption.
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Thank you sir, I pray you don't weep @ my comment too.

Let me take u up from this point, I dnt know if u dnt c it from this point of view...

U said its d work of the National assembly n d judiciary to make laws tht work n to enforce these laws by ways of sentencing corrupt individuals to jail.

Now u fault buhari for not creating a modern sys tht fights corruption, like GEJ introduced BVN, there u make d first mistake, BVN doesn't stop anyone from stealing public funds, neither does TSA.. All these sys have loop holes...a man tht steals public would just starch d moni n his house....like d case of d judges n obanikoro airliftn cash of 1.2bn naira....tht is already a way around d useless sys u r acrediting to GEJ.

GEJ is to blame because most of d corrupt practices n his govt was done under his nose, nd he authorized most of dem, so if I dnt blame him, hu else wud i blame, at some point in time, he would have questions to ansa.

There is only one principle tht works n d western world tht u fail to acknowledged, which is strict punishment for corruption. In western countries, there is no hiding or soft landing for d weekend, there u can't b convicted of stealing 30b n b asked to pay a fine of #700k. When u have such Judges, tht give such corrupt judgements, no amount of mechanism u take from d western world would work.

U asked y didnt d sys fite corruption from d national assembly??....Fighting corruption from d worst corrupt arm of gov, have asked urself, what is d jail term for corruption??...Ur guess is as good as mine, we dnt know...prolly der isn't even any jail term or even if there is, mayb a yr or two wiv an option of fine.

Ask urself y have dz senators refused to create strict laws on corruption??, because dey demselves dnt want to fall victim of their own laws. Did u c wat dey did to d CCB/CCT act, pls read d amended act and c how dey r trying to institutionalize corruption.

The problem we face in this country is major one born out of corruption, its threatening d very existence of d nation. It is endemic n to fight it effectively, u must be fought wiv force, drastic action.

Those corrupt individusls r using u as shields to protect themselves from d law.......after kipn us n d state we r now based on their looting n corruption.

Ur hatred for buhari won't let u c d truth

sapiosexual1:
Now this is good and honourable, however I'm afraid Mr Buhari is polarising the judiciary just like he tried to do with the legislature in his selective and targeted corruption fight.
Many wouldn't look at the deeper issues, not until reality dawns.

What's the reality tht would dawn, u guys just like talking rubbish out your twisted minds...gonna check urself, examine d state of your mind

drss2:
u tink western countries ar zombies like d rest of nigerians who believe buari is fighting corruption they know a despotic president wen they see one.
civilized countries all ova d world fight corruption silently by putting mechanism in place by way of legislation to open up d system through ICT for public scrutiny which makes it hard to commit acts of corruption, while ur buari is busy attacking members of opposition for rumors of corruption with impunity n gross violation of rule of law. buari is not fighting any corruption, just persecuting his political enemies.
talking corruption, d most corrupt region in d whole of nigeria is d north. let buari start from there if he's sincere about fighting corruption

I feel like insulting u, because u no wan wise....I dnt understand how pple like u think.....u want to fight corruption by putting mechanism in place by way of legislation to mke it difficult to fight corruption.

I bet u didn't think tht by urself, u heard someone say it nd u just carried it.

U compare Nigeria with other countries.... There u get it wrong.

Nigeria is ranked as one of the most corrupt countries n d world, it means d system is corrupt, so if ders corruption n d executive, d legislature n d judiciary, who wud put d legislation in place.

The president can't put legislation in place by himself, this democracy, those to make d law to fight corruption isn't d president, its d national assembly. So wen u have a Nass n judiciary thts d most corrupt institutions of govt how do u go forward.

I'm taking my time to explain to u because I weep wen I read comments like this, I just wonder n weep for this country, I wonder did u even go to school, because I expect there r some things u ought to know now, u dnt just come out n mke unintelligent comments.

So enlighten urself, because ur case ehn

Bujumbura:
Another nut job on the loose. Who cares about giving credit for a stupid wedding by two old fools while people are suffering


Comotot here jare

People are suffering, has there ever bin a time tht pple weren't suffering n this country, even n d US, der r pple tht still suffer by their own standards.

Your just another twisted mind, so because r suffering, u now distort d truth.

Well der r people like me, who stand for the truth, no matter what d circumstance. The wedding was a modest one, it wasn't a state function, thts what I call, leading by example.

tete7000:
Your rant should be directed to a jobless and senseless person that started the thread. Stop getting worked up with people making sensible observation. Wedding in our society is a thing of joy celebrated with funfair. People who are not president throw parties on their children's wedding not to talk of a sitting president. If Buhari didn't deem it fit to celebrate her daughter's wedding na them sabi. Stop sounding frustrated as if it is a sin to celebrate wedding. Nothing is wrong with those observations, they are observations and might be true or wrong. Those who deduce them might actually be intelligent against you potraying them as silly. They see what the likes of you and op fails to see. You people should stop looking for all nonsense frivolities to praise the president. Even Obama if need be will celebrate his daughter's wedding. The post is senile and the op sick. Shikena.

So a presidents daughters wedding should be celebrated as a state function??, u support tht??......u dnt mean it??. I think u need to see a doctor to get ur head examined.

So u support using state funds on a lavish wedding because wedding is fun n should b celebrated. Its pple like u tht have kept us were we r today.

because ur thinking is twisted, riddled with corruption, u like every oda person saying d op is senile n sick....u CNT differentiate bw what is right n wrong anymore.

Its obvious u r a product of 16 yrs of corrupt practices, so wen a lot of pple can't tell what is right from what is wrong anymore, I'm not surprised because 16yrs is enough to twist someone's mind

sweerychick:
In as much as the Op tried making a point but I think the comparison is pointless, First of GEJ and PMB are of different cultural and religious backgrounds. Secondly it's optional for them, there's no law preventing anyone to do their wedding anyhow they wish in Nigeria( unless the Op created one), and thirdly PMB daughter is a fourth wife whereas GEJ daughter is the first to her husband. So I don't see any reason for extravagancy in PMB's case

I have read a lot of comments here but I decided to quote yours, not because I agree with you, buh because u seem intelligent. But I must say this, no matter how intelligent u are, u cannot defend a stupid idea and still appear intelligent.

If u read tht article by d OP, ull c tht d op is trying to pass a msg, which is....doing what is right.

I have read pple say, a lot of unreasonable and senseless tins about how she married as a fourth wife so ders no reason to do a large party, some even said muslims wedding r usually not xpensive compared to xtain/southern weddings.. I find these excuses really dumb n anyone making such dumb xcuses is either a dumb person or d person is tryna play dumb.

I m one who is of d opinion tht we have done things for too wrong, I feel a lot of Nigerians r sick mentally..because we dnt even have an idea of what right is anymore.

I m really pained wen I read comments like urz, I ask myself how did we get here.

Can u imagine if d wedding was flamboyant, wouldn't u have come out to criticize d govt??, m sure u wud??.....it isnt, instead of u guys to give him credit u r saying we shud wait till Aisha child gets married.....

The way u guys reason in dz country is worrisome..I ask, with such reasoning, wud we ever move forward??

Justiceleague1:
come o,so u guys believe we niger deltans will ignore the emancipation and freedom that ipob stand for and embrace the zoo and her slavery,huh? U better put that bottle down...i am from oredo/uromi in edo state and tufiakwa that i tag along nigeria that denies me of my own God given natural resources. Mind you,i dont hate afonja,i have always loved them,schooled and hussling in lagos,but afonja have sold out,ipob,nd and afonja have a common fight for economic emancipation (ipob are fed up and wanna quit)but afonja have become a stooge to the enemy.

Op,the govt and its intended grazing bill is a worse attack than so called violent libyan fulani herdmen.

You are a bloody liar, claiming oredo/uromi/benin...I bet those r the only names u know bout Edo state...we d legitimate citizens of Edo sate dnt associate ourselves Biafra...not even during d civil war, get ur facts right, bfre spewing trash.......if ipob wants to go, let dem go without d south south.....the south east would be worst parasites than d north..

Why do u guys always claim south south as ur brothers, is tht brotherhood born out of true friendship or brotherhood or out of greed n d oil they possess.

I doubt its out of true brotherhood, cos d average easterner, doesn't eve care about his own kinsmen not to talk of others

Solange06:
Sahara reporters should be closed down complecompletely. This are all lies. Am a woman and from ondo state. Jimoh Ibrahim can never win an election here. Ondo state people know him as a fraudster .. Buhari can not impose a fraudster on us. The presidency is at work here. They are only using Jimoh ibrahim to cause problems in PDP so APC can win. Can Jimoh come to ondo state to campaign? Sahara reporters should tell him to start his campaign if he can. We want INEC to be independent and stop taking orders from Buhari. We don't like injustice in ondo state and we will fight with our last blood to say No. Go and read history. Ondo state is not like any other state. We don't care about mimiko but we all like Jegede and we believe greatly in him. He's a friend of the masses unlike the 419 called Jimoh Ibrahim

What has buhari got to do with this??, This is an internal PDP affair, nd d court has picked a candidate for the Party, so y r u blaming buhari......a

eyeview:
The younger generation should stand up and reject this bill.
They have listed what the loans will be used(though we know they lack integrity to fulfill that) but they havent told us how they plan to repay it.
They just want to collect the billions and settle their generations yet unborn while we and our kids continue to pay for it.
They are literally mortgaging our future and we are too sentimental to see it.
What happened to the trillions they claim they have recovered from TSA? What happened to the trillions they claim they got from diezani?
Lets stop being fooled by these wicked occultic old men running this country?

Too bad u can only wail on naira land.

Clinton9000:
It's obvious this government has a scripted plan to marginalize and strangle Igbos to death. What these mofos don't understand is the more you marginalize Igbos, the more successful they get to be.

With all their success dey tend to b d ones hu complain d most

Donexy16:
Nice one.... We still expecting the promised change tho...

The change PDP couldn't deliver in 16 yrz, u want fashola to deliver in two years...Even Harry potters magic wand won't work n our case. Slow n Steady

mrvitalis:
Borrowing $100bn dollars is not the problem... if they are used for revenue generating projects that can pay off the loan no problem. ..

Government should tell us which project each money is meant for and the feasibility study, tge revenue projections.. That's what the PDP and other partys should demand

So govt would come to ur house buy u a cup of juice and start telling u...these info are there, google it u would find it

saintkel:
Another Saint?

U stole my style nah

saintkel:
Nice one but am tired of we will, soon to st art, I want it now n now

Proper Planning is key to a successful project

How come none of these rtd permanents secretaries dnt have classic n choice hotels n structures n abj, pH n lagos, like one of their counterpart from one of d south south states named Bayelsa??...or does bayelsa pay perm secs 5 times more than Lagos does??

kettykin:
When will the hypocritical government probe $16b power projects of Obasanjo regime that delivered nothing but darkness

I thought Jonathan fought corruption silently, if GEJ didn't c wrong with tht 16b power project y should buhari probe Obj

bilulu:
We ve so how come all we still ve is dirty stoney rice dat can't compare with d least of India rice not to talk of Taiwan

There r some kind of questions I dnt ansa