₦airaland Forum

GoldNiagara:
The drug baroness!

According to who?

GoldNiagara:
What are you saying his father was killed! That also is coincidence. I beggi

Who's father?

We should cut this other Biafran haters angles. But how did the Police arrive at the conclusion after just two hours?

SonofDevil:
sorry I made mistake in the area of the parish priest but it doesn't erase the fact that a single perdon on face cap came inside to shoot people not that propaganda that ipob have been spreading around that the attackers were in army uniform and they came into the church in numbers

Where are you getting this from? Didn't you read the entire quote you sent me? Look at what the Ohamadike guy you quoted said:

"I remained where I was and that was around 5:45am. The Parish Priest removed his cassock and hid at the altar while the GUNMEN continued in the shooting spree".

Where are you getting your version from? And why are we even arguing the numbers? Does it become less a crime if it was committed by one person?

backtosender:
They lied as they always do we are not stupid an eye witness account have already pointing towards the Nigerian govt/militia they will do anything for Biafra to stop

I don't think we should tie it to Biafra but what it really is, a crime to a people.

I also think that while suspicion is allowed, fingering or accusing anyone at this stage will not be helpful.

It will rather create the segregated mindset of us vs them and the seriousness it should generate is dwarfed by stupid and demonic utterances. Just leave anybody out of it.

As a person who tries to use his brain, the story doesn't add up. The loophole is just too large to take the words of the police or anyone as true at this stage.

SonofDevil:
Ohamadike, who spoke with a Daily Sun correspondent said;

"We were in the church and I was to handle the second reading. As the first reading was still on, I heard a sound like a thunder. I dived under a long form in the church auditorium and from there raised up my head a bit and saw a young man with a fez cap shooting and people ran in all directions for safety in confusion.
https://www.nairaland.com/3971843/parish-priest-removed-cassock-hid

Is this the Parish Priest you speak of?

"Mr. Ohamadike Stephen, one of the survivors of Ozubulu Church attack carried out at St. Philips Catholic Church, Ozubulu in Ekwusigo Local Government Area of Anambra on Sunday morning, has narrated the horror they went through as GUNMEN stormed the church, even though he refused taking photos"

How is the Survivor Mr Ohamadike the Parish Priest?

Secondly, where did this survivor say that it was just one person who did the act?

Do you mind if I show what other survivors are saying?

What do you stand to gain by leaving part of the story:
"I remained where I was and that was around 5:45am. The Parish Priest removed his cassock and hid at the altar while the GUNMEN continued in the shooting spree."

“When they had left, I helped in evacuating the wounded and casualties to the NAUTH, Nnewi,” he said.

What do you stand to gain bro?

babooshka:
I asked d very same question, how come they av an explanation so soon, so easily, and d culprits r very conveniently resident abroad.

The fact they made these comments made it more worrisome for me. Not even the American Police is that competent.

Just assume for a minute, that the guy they named as suspect is really into drugs BUT has no hands in this, what do you think will happen to the mind of people towards the story? Will they question if he actually did it, or because he is into drugs, the first story, which COULD be a decoy, stands higher in their minds? I know how Nigerians think and which version will sink.

Why will I have a drug issue with someone in South Africa, but instead of attacking him in South Africa, I travel back to his hometown to slaughter his people? Let's assume they got intelligence that he is back home and not in SA. The question then is, how can a person who has the means to acquire the guns and 'BRUTE' Hitlers that could kill dozens of people make such mistake? You can't have murderers that loyal and heartless at your service and will mistake the whereabouts of just one man in this country. It's inconsistent with the intelligence shown in the attack.

SonofDevil:
check the nairaland frontage to see the news.
The priest said a single man carried out the act not army of jihadist .the man had to hid beside the alter

The Nairaland story I read yesterday didn't say anything about a Priest talking. Nothing on that. It was simply a statement saying the police arrived at the conclusion that it was a drug spar to which I asked I how they arrived at such in just two hours. So tell me, or show me, where the priest made the story you claim he made. I need his quote in a link and not what somebody said the priest said.

These men are really heartless. Why should people paid stupendous sums be given such allowance? Imagine what that money could get for the people.

SonofDevil:
according to the priest on altar it was only a Man that carried out the evil act not army of jihadist like ipob have been spreading .

According to the Priest? Where and when did he say that? You can give me a link where he was 'quoted' to have said so.

bakila:
Try all you can, an indigene of Ozubulu is still prime suspect.

So, how did anyone come to the conclusion that he is prime suspect.

The whole thing makes no sense. When you try to add up everything it even appears more dangerous. The time it happened. The Killings of the innocent. The haste with which the police concluded. The sympathy calls from different sources. Obiano's acceptance. The use of the drug line. This is complex.

KingsCFR:
OZUBULU MASSACRE: See Photos And Complete Profile Of "Bishop" Nnamdi Ikegwuonu (the alleged wanted man by the gunmen)... http://www.cfrmagazine.com/2017/08/ozubulu-massacre-who-is-bishop-nnamdi.html?m=

That is a bullshit story. Something happened in the morning and the investigation was completed the same morning by the Nigerian Police and I should buy that?

The fact this bullshit was presented as what happened is a problem.

Who presented evidence? Who did the police interrogate to arrive at that conclusion? What investigation was done? The hastiness of this story will baffle anybody who knows how Nigerian Police operate.

Blue3k:
If you guys don't have attention span to read this just use text reader app.

This pretty wild to believe hypnosis is this easy to learn. A little common sense like suggested in this artice will save your life. Always google the company. Don't let company give you run around to different locations.

Exactly. People are afraid to read even what will save their lives. We talk about the problem of kidnapping but refuse to learn the strategies of the kidnappers.

internationalman:
show him urself and in short words.

Where?

FeloniousFelon:
This was what Aandonka the then minister of Justice under Yaradua refused to do and only Dora stood up to demand that the FEC setup a medical board.

This is also another reason Tinubu was pushing for Falana to be appointed minister of Justice and was bent on controlling both houses in NASS in the event that he could easily have removed Buhari by now.

But I killed his ludo moves here by creating series of threads warning Buhari and the CPC faction not to allow Falana as minister.

https://www.nairaland.com/2605798/why-buhari-should-not-appoint#38096569

You? Lolol. Do you think your posts here have an bearing on Buhari's action?

SonofDevil:
according to the news a south African based man was the target probably business gone wrong.
Another source have it that the bishop rejected in mbaise imo state was the target of the gunmen because the church was actually his parish and he normally conduct early morning mass as at 6am luckily for him He was not on ground when the massacre took place

According to what news source?

Flaghouse1:
Okay, I have visited the site,will always be following.
Keep up the good work

Thanks.

Flaghouse1:
That nice, awake the conscience of our youths on pertinent issues in the global atmosphere because these days I don't understand what is their passion .
If you are Renaissance man, what would you call me?

Lol. I didn't say I am a Renaissance Man but "trying" to be a Renaissance Man. See my blog www.mortalpoet.com to get where I am coming from. Your mind is good.

So we can have something like this here? http://www.mortalpoet.com/article-sarcasm-ruined-nigeria/

Flaghouse1:
Your last paragraph is true ,this can affect development positively or negatively depending on sincerity of our politicians.

The problem I see in our country in terms of technological trend is the way we tend to over hype simple gadgets here- iPhones. Pad ,watches et al, why don't we as nation create a technology hub to address our deficiencies in terms of life style, agriculture,technology etc. to come up with inventions-top notch to better our lives.
As for the implant stuff, whites will never come up and tell you the effects on the body and possible security risk of this chip to the individual, I also believe it to be a ploy for other nations like our Nigerians to embrace such technology and use it as a source of information gathering for their use -we need to be careful though.

I appreciate your deep sense of reasoning on this discourse, hope you are not a research fellow oooo!

Lol. No. I'm just trying to be a Renaissance Man.

It is her money but this is not fair.

Flaghouse1:
Nice postulation/reasoning I believe the writer is taking into cognizanceand limiting this discourse to our Nigerian environment which is developing at snail speed rather than the global perspective.

Recently a company(IT) in US just developed a chip the size of rice grain implanted in the palms of its staff with which they can open doors to their house ,office . Also pay for items purchased and carry out some other normal daily basic technology related activities.

The big question now is when will this happen in Nigeria?

Respect!

Nice but I fear for what chips in the human system is capable of. I'd not let anyone implant me with any chip, unless I built the chip or have a hundred percent understanding of how it works.

One thing I noticed about us is the pace which we maintain when we catch up. We may be very poor in terms of technological advancement but once we get hold of any technology, it spreads like wildfire among us. Look at how we handled phones.

Another thing now is that the world is globalized. Any new invention or trend can reach the entire continent, even homosexuality (lol). The only thing that could hold back an invention or idea from manifesting here is the policies of government.

rottennaija:
Most of these movies tell us what is happening in secret. Expecially, 24.

Cloning is happening. There are technologies and science in existence we have not heard of. But are top secret and controlled by a few.

I suspect so. Personally, I find it hard to believe their is no cure for cancer and AIDS. Medical Marijuana can cure a lot of ailments but you wonder why it is a crime but Cigarettes and Alcohol that destroy completely are legalised.

Lol. How many millions have you made?

nosiebaba:
You get point but make it short

That's not even up to 1500 words. You can skim or scan it.

SLIDEwaxie:
yeah, if we have to go buy that..

Then

1. Military stays
2. Scientists stays
3. Gun runners would stay
4. Robbers too

Lol. It's not as easy. The world will simply flow in accordance to how the powers want it to. If that's what they want, that's what we will get.

I'm not surprised.

Some months back, the story of the kidnap kingpin, Evans, was all over the place. His connections and creations was laid bare for all to see and we loved it. He was given the tag ‘Billionaire Kidnapper’ and his face littered various facets of the media that it stuck with our subconscious. But this is not about him or how much he gave a certain person. This is about people like him moving boldly in our environment. They are all over the bus stops, junctions and roundabouts on the streets of Lagos sharing tracts of different imaginary companies. They advertise their services boldly on our national newspapers and no verification is done from these papers to know if they are genuine or just a bunch of criminals moving about in the name of helpers. On our roads and bridges they put their adverts on open surfaces and use the demarcators between lanes to offer their service. I am talking about Job scammers. A growing and dangerous group of people who advertise jobs that are nonexistent. Their aim is usually to hypnotise the job seeker and use him or her for their own good. Beware of these Nigerian jobs. It is from these practises that the Evans of this world are born.

The freedom with which these criminals and potential criminals operate is alarming. They know there is a scarcity of good jobs around here and they use it to trap their victims who are desperate. They usually come with no company name and an address that can’t be traced. The trick is, when a job seeker is invited for an interview, he or she locates the address given, finding no one there, the inexperienced job seeker calls the number they attached to the invite message they sent him or her and a soul is won. How? They begin a redirection process with the aim of confusing and taking you to their final destination. The thing is, once you get to the address and can’t find the company they claimed existed there, any attempt at calling them for verification begins the process of your hypnosis. And in Lagos, the commercial hub of Nigeria and West Africa, these persons are in large numbers. Some of the softer ones are companies, or better put, people who claim to operate a company selling agricultural products and drugs, who will place a job advertisement for an Accountant but in the interview and lecture rooms, demand money from the job seeker. Another degree are those who invite you just to rob you without hypnosis. They boldly pull a gun or knife out and threaten you and you oblige and beg for transport money to go back home. There are the 419ners, who hypnotise you and empty your pockets and possibly kidnap you. The most dangerous have the sole aim that you never return.

So, why am I calling on the President, Governor Ambode and the Nigeria Police to read this? Simple. These miscreants use the citizens of the state to achieve their selfish aims and the earlier they are taken out, the better for the society. First, there are National Newspapers these criminals and liars use to execute this evil deed. On the part of these papers, the goal is to do the citizens some good. The Television and Radio houses are also guilty of this negligence. On the part of the radio and television houses, certain(if not all) adverts paid for and broadcasted on their channels go through no reality check. At times, just like the papers do, there is a disclaimer that plays at the end of the advert. On some national dailies, unverified jobs are advertised on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Any job seeker who uses the papers should know the papers I am taking about. There are also persons sharing tracts on the streets of Lagos. They promise thousands but their dressing and appearance betray what they promise. It always go with the words “an American company with over thirty years experience requires the services of…” It is from these persons that people are kidnapped and submitted for fetish purposes. Though there could be real ones, it seems the bad eggs outnumber the good ones. The Nigeria Police should look for these persons and their contacts at Ikotun Roundabout, Oshodi Underbridge, Cele Express, Orile Bus stop, Yaba, Street walls, etc., and every bus park and bus stop in Lagos. A little questioning wouldn’t be bad to separate the wheats from the chaffs.

Here is how job seekers can defend themselves against possible kidnappers and criminals trying to lure them with jobs. One. Any job without a company name, carrying the words ‘a foreign country(put any foreign country here) with 30 years(or any years) experience is looking for…’, is a red flag. No serious company will advertise for jobs without putting its name on it. A company’s name on an advert is good for the company and failure to do this is a red sign. Two. Any job vacancy with vague and ambiguous company names like P.G Limited, OHC Limited, T.Platform, Careers Ltd, MG Nigeria, etc., is suspect. Here is what to do. Copy the job invite exactly as it was sent to you, paste it on Google search and you will get a lot of reviews and information to know what next to do. Or punch their address on Google and see how it goes. If you are confused by the acronym they go by(they want you confused) search the name of the company whose acronym you think they represent. For instance, search for Procter and Gamble if you are confusing it with P.G Limited, and see who is recruiting. If they are, where is it taking place and when did you even apply? Three. Any invite with the words ‘based on referral…is suspect. Not because their are no jobs based on referral. There are. But the idea here is to make you assume that the invite is a product of one of the recruiting agencies(for those who use recruitment agencies) where you submitted your Curriculum Vitae, CV.

Lastly, I will like to add that the attention given to the criminal and kidnap kingpin, Evans, by both the Nigerian Police and the Media did not help this country. We know this is a democracy and the media need to sell papers to make money. We know all these but manufacturing stories and mystifying a criminal just to keep the story trending was not fair to the soul our society. It was a good thing that Kyari, the policeman who headed the operation, told us some of those stories peddled were figments of the imagination. When you mystify a dangerous criminal in an ailing population like ours, where healing is needed, giving reasons and repeating different stories behind his trade, you make criminality fashionable and increase the potential for more recruitments. There are so many young persons with unformed minds watching, learning and mastering everything we do. They don’t look at what the society say should be done but how people respond to what the society instructed is right. They don’t listen to what their parents, guardians, neighbours and seniors said is right but how their guardians, parents, neighbours and seniors react to issues. Our actions matter most. When we project these images of the evil constructs and actions of a person, mystify the persons evil deed, give him a tag like ‘Billionaire Kidnapper’, use stories and try blame the society indirectly for his misdeeds, we are subconsciously showing the younger generation a negative way to respond to issues. The different police officers taking selfies in turns with the criminal should be given sound lectures on psychology. What exactly was that for?

http://www.mortalpoet.com/someone-president-governor-ambode-nigerian-police-nigerian-job-seeker/