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Tpia you don't kno what youtalkin bout not everyone in my fam has a yoruba father and if you ask them where they come from they will tell you their mothers hometown is oba of lagos yoruba or not

All this we are 50 percent or w/e is bull shiot lol fashola and acn don rule lagos n. Sw lmfao GEJ is sooooo weak pdp in lagos damnn near dead all other parties are wack

Yoruba people really spoke loud the number that gej got in lagos is no where near what FASHOLA got in this election lol I guess we can say if fashola was running against gej chime or lamido he would win LAgos hands down! Fashola/acn is getting three and even FOUR  times the votes Gej had in lagos. just comparing GEJs presidential election to FAshola lol. Even the sen and reps election got more votes than the presidential lol

Your issue is that you're arguing about history you don't kno binis nupes hausas baribas fulas living in yoruba cities years ago began turning into yoruba n calling themselves yoruba. The same way nupes yorubas some fula igalla also turned into edos binis afenmais , what do you nor understand

The emir of ilorin is not a random person.

HIS MOTHER IS FROM AFONJAS LINE. and Afonjas line are also related to Alimi(the fulani) - both families intermarried over the past 100+ yrs.

both families are elite and married eachother. everyone knows that

FROM A FULANI PERSON

"Mohammed
Derdiraabe am fulbe on jaarama. I'll like to give my take on why fulfulde is loosing the "battle" to hausa in many parts of Nigeria. First we need to identify affected areas so that we can critically look at the socio-cultural peculiarities of those areas and hopefully identify what d problem is.

As Iziren has already pointed out, the areas affected most are in North-western Nigeria because in the North east, fulfulde is still widely spoken even by non fulani.

In the north west, the fulbe have lived side by side with the Hausa for centuries and the process the 2 tribes have mixed both socially and culturally. But why have the fulbe living in those areas opted for hausa rather than their mother tongue, fulfulde? Well the answer can easily be found if one looks at the building blocks of the two languages. Hausa is probably the simplest language in the whole world. It is so simple, it is almost simplistic. It is a flat language i.e. it lacks depth and therefore it can be learned easily by anyone. Fulfulde on the other hand is very deep and complex. It is in the same class with languages like arabic and hebrew.
It is because of this reason (the ease of learning hausa and the complxity of fulfulde), that most of the fulbe in north western Nigeria speak hausa but not fulfulde. And this has happened not only to fulfulde but to every other language that has existed closely with hausa. In kaduna a city in north west nigeria there are tribes other than hausa and fulani and most members of those tribes especially the younger generations, cannot speak their mother tongue but they can speak hausa.

This is just one aspect (nouns/verbs). If u look at other aspects of grammer like pronouns and adjectives u will find a simillar situation.

The reason why fulfulde is widely spoken in the north east is because the hausas r a minority in there. and the other tribes in those areas are predominantly non muslim and so there has not been any kind of cultural mixing. The fulbe in those areas have stuck pretty much to themselves.

In the city of Gombe where Rukaiya is from, the pattern of what happened in to fulfulde in katsina, sokoto, kano, etc is being repeated. this is because in the last few decades, there has beeen a large inlux of hausa speaking people into gombe town and so the fulbe in that town end up learning the easier of the 2 languages. But when u move to the hinterlands, to places like Nafada, Dukku, Pindiga etc, fulfulde is still holding sway because there is no much competition with hausa. "

ezeagu:
The Emir is part of the Caliphate. The man is among the rest of the Fulani Sultans and Emirs, and that shows that the Fulani have power over Ilorin through him. Ilorin through him is under the Fulani, that is assimilated. Alhaji Ibrahim Kolapo Sulu Gambari, is this not the Emir of Illorin's name? And how do you know he doesn't speak Fulani? I don't believe that. An Emir that socialises with other Fulani elites?

The other groups in Kwara are not settling in other peoples lands. Their culture is there and there's no need for their children to suddenly call themselves Yoruba, which they are not and which the Kwara Yoruba are not, just because of the Yoruba language. Nigeria's official language is English, nobody in Nigeria is gradually turning English.

yoruba is culture and he doesnt speak fula everyone knows that.

FEW CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK FULA not even the hausa-fulani mixed one can speak fulfude, many emirs cant also its not only him.

didnt binis start calling themselves yoruba  over time? didnt nupe start to call themselves yoruba?

is ben bruce not ijaw?

is ramsey noah isreali?

lol

not all slaves that settled in lagos were yoruba everyone knows that.

most married into elite yoruba families.

yoruba mothers n stuff.

ezeagu:
There's an Emir of Illorin and the Fulani have never assimilated anybody? The Fulani ancestry from the male is what the Fulani's use to identify themselves, like the Arab's in Northern Sudan. The Fulani may have taken up other people cultures, but it does not mean they do not identify as Fulani. We all saw how Mr. Bakare was desperately trying to disassociate himself from Kwara.

Not all Kwara people speak Yoruba natively. There examples of a language being used to trade all over Africa, but it does not always indicate identity. Unless Nupe Niger will also become Yoruba. Even Kwara people do not claim any of these people as Yoruba.

the emir of ilorin speaks yoruba is/was addressed by his yoruba name, his kids have yoruba names, whole family are yorubas or fula turned into yoruba. people in kwara they call him oba also.

people dont think of him as a fulani, just as the oba of lagos is not considered a bini.  that said hes an emir, there are countless other people who think they are yoruba and just dont know there family history well, theres nothing fulani have assimilated people into. no one has fula names, no one speaks fula language, and theres no fula culture beside islam and cows. Islam is a religion shared by different ethnicities. so thats not really fula anyway

so what is so fulani about someone, who cant speak fula, doesnt have a fula name, and is not seen as a fula by the people around him?

ekt_bear:
@tpia@: Hrm, I'm not sure I agree. Speaking another culture's language is the first step in this process. They won't necessarily see themselves are "Yoruba." But the Emirate is like nearly 200 years old now. Imagine a Hausa or Nupe settler 200 years who moved to Ilorin to fight for Afonja/Alimi, started speaking Yoruba as the common language. What do you think his descendants today would most culturally resemble?

Now, imagine a guy from one of the Nupe LGAs who speaks Yoruba pretty well. He moves to Ilorin to do some sort of business. 200 years from now, who do you think his descendants will most resemble culturally? Nupe, or Yoruba?

You sort of see what I'm saying? This has happened all over the place throughout history, btw.

agree for anyone to think that every person who is yoruba has yoruba origin generations ago is crazy. i have sooo many fam that consider themselves yoruba but are not yoruba to begin with.

some yoruba peeps with last bello are actually nupe or fulani origins, some yoruba peeps with dawodu are actually nupe, but who will call themselves nupe or fulani if they are not exposed to either culture?

ezeagu:
Speaking Yoruba doesn't mean they are full culturally Yoruba. Speak to a Kwara person. Plus not all of Kwara speaks Yoruba.

all kwara speak yoruba what are you talking about? even non yoruba speak yoruba because that what the majority of the people speak.

fulani speak yoruba in kwara, nupe speak yoruba in kwara, bariba speak yoruba in kwara. yoruba is the common language.

a nupe man cant speak fula, bariba cannot speak nupe, fula cannot speak braiba - but they all can speak yoruba.

Fulani have never [/b]assimilated non fulani people into fula culture or hausa, they only taken on their hosts culture, language, dress  etc but maintain fulani origin only due to islam- which means nothing compared to yoruba identity.

if anything fulani are going extinct faster than any tribe.

even the non yorubas in kwara and southern niger state speak yoruba and carry yoruba names.

ekt_bear:
tpiah!: Thanks a lot. The Wikipedia article is very good.

I don't think we lost too much territory to the Nupes, though.

There are two towns that represent part of the border between Yorubaland and Nupeland. Share is the Yoruba town, Tsaaragi is the Nupe one. Anyway, compare the map you posted to the following one from google:

[b]As you can see, Share isn't very far from the Niger River. And the progression of time will Yorubaize all the non-Yoruba in Kwara. So in 100 years or so, whoever there isn't Yoruba will be Yoruba-speaking.

even in niger state they speak yoruba

check this video muslim man with 86 wives is nupe-fulani but hes giving his interview only speakin in yoruba.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB8OLRK_4vs    <---- video

sleepin with different chick frequently takes away from pleasure.

easy girls are not worth it. i like a chase

no it isnt if its a sexy smile.

couple years younger den me.

young n fresh. like 18 19 20 21

^^ i kno i was readin that shiot likt triple sin lol

of course it does

i even smile wit my prof to get good grades, i smile at mc donalds to get free food, i smile everwhere and it gets me discounts.

my kinda girl ive had the chance for party a couple times before but i was scared i was a young boy.

but damn can you imagine two babes on you licking your chest and suckin ur dik at the same time?

you dey craze if u vex about dis situation!

if anything i would join in

*Ileke-IdI:
True, a friend of mines just came back from serving NYSC in Lagos.

She liked it.

Lagos suxxs for NYSC. Too many scary people, IMO.

im gonna do mine is gidi

bella naija uche lil sister tho

same shape forehead

poster u b fooool

EzeUche__:
I cannot wait, because I hear it is a lot of fun.

You sure you can handle it? The guys will be very happy to see a lady from yankee.

what lady from yankee? majority of people who serve in lag or abj all schooled abroad

so why would they behappy

CPC or not who cares buhari

doesnt have to do anything he not the presido

simon kolawale is a rubbish guy

THE AMAKA:
didn't you say you plan to move to Naija and work there? does that mean you have to serve, or?
enlighten me

yea
if you school abroad

Lagos or abuja

she look like amaka tho

kinda sad it was prolly one of her fake friends that sent that pic to some crazy website or fb group

lol

but dat chick has some boo.bs. she just look funny as hell

^^^^ its funny because of the

"No human being who sees what I saw will go back and conduct election. For N7,000? Never!"

*Ileke-IdI:


One band one voice = one trouser one shirt.

Up naija!

The NYSC uniform would def look cute on me, where can I get one?

you can get one when you serve lmfao

haha lol

you know all the family i have that are like urhobo and itsekiri wear agbadas 24-7! its only a few times i ve seen them wear wrapper and THAT hat only in pics nstuff lol. looks funny cant lie

that red hates some idomas,igbos,igalas,igarra wear is originally muslim from mali. Niger,senegal people wear also i usually see imams and sheik wear it aswell,

[img]http://africastories.usaid.gov/story_includes/images/mali7religiousleaders.jpg[/img]

Looks like IBB
[img]http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2009/08/04/mamadou-tandja-cp-7118578.jpg[/img]

GEJ MEHN I DONT KNOW FOR DAT GUYS ATTIRE MEHN HE AINT FRESH ATALL

"Everybody here is one trouser one shirt. Look at me now. All I have is my shorts and bathroom slippers. I have lost all my credentials and belongings. I saw people who came to kill me. No human being who sees what I saw will go back and conduct election. For N7,000? Never!"

lol

no i think they did vote for cpc n the results were messed with

end off

northerners shouldnt be mad they should thank the PDP govs they voted for before and the NASS they voted for last week.