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reallest:
I answer d question u pose to me,I didn't remember making dat statement up there,if did say something similar to dat simply quote it n underline it

nasiayam:
WWhat else has been altered

nasiayam:
the fourth-century church fathers Eusebius and Jerome noted that almost all Greek manuscripts available to them lacked vv. 9–20, although they doubtless knew those other endings existed. In the second century, Justin Martyr and Tatian knew about other endings. Irenaeus, also, in A.D. 150 to 200, must have known about this long ending because he quotes verse 19 from it. So, the early church fathers knew of the added verses, but even by the fourth century, Eusebius said the Greek manuscripts did not include these endings in the originals.

The internal evidence from this passage also casts doubt on Mark as the author. For one thing, the transition between verses 8 and 9 is abrupt and awkward. The Greek word translated “now” that begins v. 9 should link it to what follows, as the use of the word “now” does in the other synoptic Gospels. However, what follows doesn’t continue the story of the women referred to in v. 8, describing instead Jesus’ appearing to Mary Magdalene. There’s no transition there, but rather an abrupt and bizarre change, lacking the continuity typical of Mark’s narrative. The author should be continuing the story of the women based on the word “now,” not jumping to the appearance to Mary Magdalene. Further, for Mark to introduce Mary Magdalene here as though for the very first time (v. 9) is odd because she had already been introduced in Mark’s narrative (Mark 15:40, 47, 16:1)

OLAADEGBU:
To corroborate you points Dr. Ivan Panin discovered the structure in which the Bible (Mark) was written.

reallest:
He is also a murderer,though I don't know what you are trying to say

nasiayam:
The oldest copies of the Gospel of Mark, the Sinaitic and Vatican, end at Mark 16:8. A note in the New International Version of the Bible states: "The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20." Verses 9 to 20 appear to have been added later by an unknown Christian forger. The addition was quoted in the writings of Irenaeus and Hippolytus in the second or third century.

reallest:
U can tell dat to d people of amalek dat ur Mr yahweh destroy patapata

nasiayam:
Actually thread sounds like christians scare to drink poison or admit fake verses

lllllllllllll:
I seen a note under the verse that sayin earlier manuscript not havin dis verse. Where it comin from abeg. I noticin if in di Bible is just outta context but if in Quran no one Carin about di context, ya dig?

nasiayam:
What credibility does Christianity have when it scriptures are littered with such dangerous and obvious forgeries?

lllllllllllll:
they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."
Mark 16:18

If the Christian here really believers, make videos of yourself snake handling, drinking rat poison, and healing the sick in hospital. Great chance to prove how right you are. Failure to do so will lead me to believe you not true believers. Call the international media when at hospitals healing the sick. The onus is on you,

Emacy08:
I have worked for 2years. I am currently employed(I applied for a part- time program). The IT is a year training.

reallest:
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@bold,Yahweh a.k.a Jesus committed greater evil

Emacy08:
Yes it is.

Emacy08:
Good day friends.
I am an ND holder, a christian by faith. I have just been offered admission in one of the institutions to further my education. I am at the clearance stage and they require my Industrial Training (I.T) Letter. To be sincere, I did not do IT rather i used the period to work so i can raise enough money to further my education. I have sought for advice from many but they seem not to give concrete answer(like let him not hold me responsible later). Some told me there are some cases you just need to bend rules.

What should a true christian do in this case ?

OLAADEGBU:
You are right, it just shows that we should all get ready for the soon coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

OLAADEGBU:
Hi brother Scholar8200! I've just come back from my fatherland. Things have drastically changed for the worse in their morality, spirituality and patriotism. I discovered that folks no longer fear God or man.

meixili:
Salamalikum shalom peace

Is there any proof the Bible hasn't had additions , deletions , altering , or corruption?



Please stay on topic no derailing.


Thank you kindly

nasiayam:
The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20.

OLAADEGBU:
There is no need to divert from the OP. Do you accept that the OT has been proven to be accurate by these archaeological discoveries? It is only after then that I will be obliged to engage you on your diversionary trails.

MuttleyLaff:
cc KingEbukasBlog, malvisguy212, Scholar8200, Image123

"mansions", this is a very interesting one.
The mention of "rooms/mansions/resting-places/homes/dwelling places/abodes/lodgings" only came about when Jesus responded to question(s) asked by the disciples about where He was going

The disciples being familiar with this ''groom preparing place for bride'' Jewish customs, related to it easily without thinking its a brain-teaser

Preparing a place for the bride, by the groom, in a large area of land in the parts owned by the male head of a family
actually has to do with a Jewish custom prevalent in just before, around and maybe a bit after Jesus' time.

I am not sure if the practice is still done in Israel at all or whether still now it is continued with present day Jews

The groom, in Jesus' times, before any wedding announcement or date fix, is expected to prepare or build an extension in his father's estate (i.e. father's large area of land)
The add-on building extension (i.e. rooms/mansions/resting-places/homes/dwelling places/abodes/lodgings) serves to accomodate the intended bride.

The wedding does not take place until when the groom's father is satisfied with the progress and work done by the groom in preparing the extension or building the add-on building extension (i.e. ''mansion'')

In My Father's house are many rooms/mansions/resting-places/homes/dwelling places/abodes/lodgings.
If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?
- John 14:2

"However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen,
not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself.
Only the Father knows
- Mark 13:32

It is not for the biblical times Jewish son to know the date fixed for the wedding.
It is the father, after father is content that the groom has satisfactorily and up to the father's standards has completely prepared the place for the bride, that the father decides the date of the wedding

That is the correlation between John 14:2 and Mark 13:32, and how Jesus came about the mentioning this old biblical times Jewish custom to explain that He doesnt know the time, He is only and merely going to prepare a place on the large area owned by the Father, and further saying in Mark 13:32 that, it is the Father who determines or has the last say on the wedding date
Only the Father determines or knows the D-Day (i.e. the designated day)

And to those who had been selling doves he said:
“Take these things out of here, and do not make my Father's house a house of trade.”
- John 2:16

Diverging a bit here, compare John 14:2 with John 2:16 above for a moment, to note that how ''Father's house'' is used in both verses and elsewhere has two or more different meanings
The former in John 14:2, is as in like a sovereign, kingdom or government,
whilst the latter in John 2:16 can be signified as an embassy/high Commissions/consulate/diplomat's building

If the Kingdom of Heaven extends or stretches beyond Heaven itself,
then it's easy to recognise or find out that, from wherever one is standing, Heaven (i.e. its sovereign, kingdom or government) goes further or is more than, as far as the eye sees

HEFAIROHLUWA:
Thanks bro,for the contribution.
I do not talk about this sort of things but it dawned on me yesterday that a novice of the bible may get influenced easily by their views of God and the holy book.

KingEbukasBlog:
The New Jerusalem , The New Earth and The New Heaven . The New Jerusalem will be located in the New Earth and we will spend our eternity in the New Earth - streets of gold , mansions . Not the Heaven of now but the heaven - a physical place , a new Earth - that will be . A New Earth free of suffering , sorrow etc.

Looks like you got it mixed up

nasiayam:
-1 for sheer ignorance

bingbagbo:
God is one, and at the mention of His name, every knee must bow

Philippians 2:10


What is this name?

JESUS CHRIST

onetrack:
Well then I guess he will just have one less worshiper. I think that it is absolutely reasonable to demand evidence.