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Jessicha:
so irrational, let me come down to ur level

.... Cain attacks Abel, righteous Abel quickly use that oportunity to shed off his skin and been immortal , he ascend to heaven ? you have to explain if heaven is a place of shame.

the passage prove what? you probably did not read the BOLD

malvisguy212:
and also, your muslim companion has already spoiled the thread with childish posts.

hockeyoilers:
Jesus said " But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me." (Luke 19:27)

hockeyoilers:
Jesus told his disciples to sell their outer garments and buy SWORDS !!

" He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." (Luke 22:36)

Empiree:
and what sense you made up there?. Who is the champion of christianity?.

Point is you claimed muhammad was the "founder". If he was the founder, his religion would be called "Muhammadan". That's, it would be named after him like:

Christ = christianity/christianism

Juda = Judaism

Buddha = Buddhism

Hindu = Hinduism etc.

Clearly the later are named after their founders or supposed founders.

See how you failed?. Try harder next time buddy

ifenes:
Jesus is not relevant enough for me to go through that much trouble for.

hockeyoilers:
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Matt 10 : 34

Crusaders didn't bring a sword they instead brought gas chambers

ifenes:
Christ is a from Christos,which means anointed. A Greek word for that matter. Many people where Christos back in the ancient time. Whenever they get anointed,it means they have a special task ahead. Christ is not synonymous to Jesus,in fact there were hundreds of Christs before him.

Do not forget what the bible claimed jesus said in Matthew 5,from verse 17

17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19*Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Empiree:
Sorry honey. No, Prophet Muhammad ( Allah's Blessings And Peace Be upon him) was not the founder of Islam. Below is just one of the many evidences.

Sura Hajj:78

" And strive in His cause add you ought to strive [with sincerity and discipline]. He had chosen you, and imposed no difficulties on you in religion; it's the religion of your father Abraham. It's He (Allah) who named you muslims both before and in this revelation); that the messanger may be witness over you and you will be witnesses over mankind! So establish regular prayer, give regular charity and hold fast to Allah ! He is your Protector - the Best to protect and the Best to help".

smh

hockeyoilers:
Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

ifenes:
And the story wasn't necessary true. So far there has been no form of evidence Jesus did exist. However this thread came after Truthman2012 deleted a thread where he tried labeling Mohamed as a pedophile. I came in and let him realize the 4 fingers are pointing back at him. I gave him series of proofs which he didn't like. He went ahead and deleted the thread in order to hide is fall.

plappville:
According to Matthew 27:3-6:

Matthew 27:3-6
3 When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders. 4 “I have sinned,” he said, “for I have betrayed innocent blood.”

“What is that to us?” they replied. “That’s your responsibility.”

5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

6 The chief priests picked up the coins and said, “It is against the law to put this into the treasury, since it is blood money.”



But Acts 1:15-20, gives a different and even grislier version of Judas’ demise. See it.

Acts 1:15-20
15 In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) 16 and said, “Brothers and sisters,[a] the Scripture had to be fulfilled in which the Holy Spirit spoke long ago through David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those who arrested Jesus. 17 He was one of our number and shared in our ministry.”

18 (With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. 19 Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called that field in their language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)

20 “For,” said Peter, “it is written in the Book of Psalms:

“‘May his place be deserted;
let there be no one to dwell in it,
and,

“‘May another take his place of leadership.’[c]


My question to brethrens in the house. Which account do we accept? When I was a kid I only know of the Matthew 's account. But how comes the two accounts are completely different. Bible scholars please help. Thank you in advance.

Rilwayne001:
[b] Is the inspired Bible the one that we actually use? The King James Version?

Some people continue to insist so, even if it does seem to be a rather silly view: do you mean that for all those centuries before the King James translators got to work, Christians did not have access to God’s inspired word?

What was God thinking? Some other modern translation then? The Hebrew and Greek texts from which these English translations are made?

If one chooses the last option, what does one do about the fact that we don’t have the original Hebrew and Greek texts of any of the books of the Bible, but only later copies of these texts, all of which have mistakes?

These are Questions begging for answers o ye fools

naijaboy756:
nice 1 too. More please. But I have a reservation. In same John 10:8, 'All who ever came before me were THIEVES and ROBBERS...

hockeyoilers:
Well I believe based on factual evidences found within Quran & Bible support my position. The Bible clearly shows in multiple places Jesus pbuh is a servant of Allah. This should not be construed into something malicious. We are all slaves of Allah , given free will and facility of reasoning.

shevi4mb:
Is Stephen part of the disciples? Or what exactly do u mean? Matyrdom has been in existence b4 Jesus christ...
Pls make urself clear

shevi4mb:
The Bible only mentions the deaths of two apostles, James who was put to death by Herod Agrippa I in 44 AD and Judas Iscariot who committed suicide shortly after the death of Christ.    The details of the deaths of three of the apostles (John, the Beloved, Bartholomew and Simon the Canaanite) are not known at all, either by tradition or early historians. The deaths of the other seven apostles are known by tradition or the writings of early Christian historians.  According to traditions and the Bible, eight of the Apostles died as Martyrs.  At least two of the Apostles, Peter and Andrew were crucified.

hockeyoilers:
There is no evidence Jesus pbuh died , nor died for anothers sin. It contradicts a consistent message in the Bible that everyone is accountable for thier own sins.

Furthermore John the Baptist pbuh , went into great detail in the Bible about what one should do regarding forgiveness of sin. We see here no one needs to die to achieve forgiveness of sin , and a clear message we are all accountable for our own sins.

DeathStroke007:
How does this question relates with the topic? SMH

Demmzy15:
There are thousands of scripture(more than 20,000) attributed to Christianity/Judaism. You can't use the 66/72 of catholics/protestants as a yardstick to judge Islam. Moreover the bible we have today was concocted over 900years after the Prophet Muhammad(SAW). So it's better you know what you know what you're doing!

Rilwayne001:
The Gospel of Barnabas like the bible is another piece of shiiit.. I dont believe either of them.

darkenedrebel:
Kindly drop a link to where you saw this.

It does appear that no one was closer to Paul in his preaching of the Christian faith than this man Barnabas. He cannot possibly be the author of the Gospel falsely attributed to him.

The Gospel of Barnabas is a book of no true historical value. Muslims should be gently persuaded to put it aside and instead take time to read the four genuine Gospels where the real truth about Jesus has been written.
http://www.arabicbible.com/

malvisguy212:
Wow, Scholar8200 you have done enough justice, deathstroke and any other muslims should answer this questions you ask please :
{LET'S ASK, WHO WENT TO HANG
HIMSELF THEN? WHO WENT TO RETURN
THE 30 PIECES OF SILVER?}

I never look at it this way, this is revealing, so according to the book of barnnabas, judas was crucify came back to live return the 30 piece of silver and then die the second death by suicide ? Lolzz. Truthman2012 you need see how satan has foul our muslims brothers. God bless you Scholar8200.