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@Op, like others have said, seek the Teaching of The Holy Spirit. On this forum, we need to discern when it's best to, ''give not that which is holy unto the dogs lest they turn again and rend you''.
However, it is not a call to abandon Christ or the gospel.
If you will diligently consider chapters 6-13, the depths and heights in Christ that Paul was inviting his readers to is tucked therein but can only be seen by revelation of the Spirit.

Originakalokalo:
1. God hates sodomy
2. He is the source of greatness
3. He made america great
4. He will turn his back from them....that's most certain...if u understand the mind of God.
5. America will fall
6. Another country will rise
7. A country that will be used as a whip for this wrong doing.....it will be responsible for the
fall of america
8.the country will come from the *east*
9. once the country gains power, it will then turn against Christianity......if u red the bible well, each time God used a country to punish the Israelites, they did more........
10. The reason why religious war has not started is because of the supposed *strength* of america.....imagine a powerful country from the east without control.

11. it is a pity for the world. that judgement is against the Lord Most High....

There are still true Christians in America. If God was willing to spare Sodom for 10 righteous (untainted with the abominations of the majority) , I believe the real disciples in America surpasses that number and judgement will be delayed if they stand in the gap.

There was one that alluded to a chapter in the Quran being dedicated to Mary and it rang a bell in my mind; Mary has no such recognition in any book in the Bible, let alone a call to worship her!

Confirmer:
Please kindly give me an explicit verse in the bible where God didn't recognise Ishmael as Abraham's son or where God didn't sanction Abraham union with Hagar. In Genesis 16:15 Ishmael was explicit recognised as Abraham's son "And Hagar bare Abram a SON:and Abram called his SON's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael".
Kindly stay on the bible where you have some knowledge because Ismael is well recognised in the Quran along with Isiaq. We make no distinction between the prophets of Allah.

Sorry the question was not directed at me. Hagar was and remained Sarah's maid But see:

Genesis 21:12

12 God said to Abraham, Do not let it seem grievous and evil to you because of the youth and your bondwoman; in all that Sarah has said to you, do what she asks, for in Isaac shall your posterity be called.

Hagar was at no time upgraded to a wife. In fact, after Ishmael was born, Abraham, Hagar and the Angel said respectively:

Genesis 16:6,9

6 But Abram said to Sarai, See here, your maid is in your hands and power; do as you please with her. And when Sarai dealt severely with her, humbling and afflicting her, she [Hagar] fled from her.
7 But [a]the Angel of the Lord found her by a spring of water in the wilderness on the road to Shur.
8 And He said, Hagar, Sarai’s maid, where did you come from, and where are you intending to go? And she said, I am running away from my mistress Sarai.
9 The Angel of the Lord said to her, Go back to your mistress and [humbly] submit to her control.

Confirmer:
All these circumstantial evidence you are trying to conjure shouldn't supersede a crystal clear evidence that Ishmael is Abraham first child and should have the status of THINE ONLY CHILD. The test was if he would be willing to sacrifice his only son. The test would be defeated if he had another son somewhere. Mind you God wasn't testing Sarah but Abraham so don't involve her. I seriously don't know how you put up your defence to this explicit fact.

Just as you can not prove that Isaac was not yet born at that time. Besides, Abraham {through the birth of Ishmael) knew he was not the one with the problem of infertility (in fact he had other kids after sarah's death) hence the real test was that God was asking him to sacrifice the child of promise through whom God's promises were to be fulfilled, it being clear that there would not be another from Sarah!

Confirmer:
He was only unwilling to bear the cross. In mount Gethsemnie he accepted the fact and stop Peter from fighting cos he knew his faith. Yet when he was on the cross he thought he had been forsaken. Christians logic is baffling.

Did you say He thought!? He was forsaken. Why? Our sins laid on Him separated Him(temporarily) from the Father; this was the concern in the garden of Gethsemane.
But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden His face from you, so that He will not hear.Isaiah 59:2

That our sins was laid on Him:'

Isaiah 53:6
6 All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord has made to light upon Him the guilt and iniquity of us all.

Samunique:
And we need to do that very fast, in fact much of this lies with we the youth.

we've lost the passion for God's work, we need to make amends just as u said and spread the word, the gospel of Truth. Ours is to spread the word, his is to save .



God bless sir.

God bless you too! I can not overemphasize the highlighted!

That's not an issue:

Mark 11:25
And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him and [g]let it drop (leave it, let it go), in order that your Father Who is in heaven may also forgive you your [own] failings and shortcomings and let them drop.

There are other references that talks of sitting, standing, kneeling, bowing down, prostrating and lying down in bed, praying. There is no hard and fast rule.

Confirmer:
I actually expected a lot from you than what you typed. So because Ishmael and his mum had left, Ishmael ceased to be Abraham Son? What logic. The language was "thine only son" Gen 22:16 and Genesis 22:12. To further convince you, after the death of Abraham, Ishmael was still the son of Abraham Genesis 25:9 " And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him (Abraham) in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephronmthe son of Zohar the Hittle......"
So thine only son shouldn't be in dispute since Ishmael was the first son.

It was a trial of faith for he who had received great promises concerning a son from his barren wife. There is no better source of explanation than that written:

Hebrews 11:17-19
By faith Abraham, when he was put to the test [while the testing of his faith was [d]still in progress], [e]had already brought Isaac for an offering; he who had gladly received and welcomed [God’s] promises was ready to sacrifice his only son,
18 Of whom it was said, Through Isaac shall your descendants be reckoned.
19 For he reasoned that God was able to raise [him] up even from among the dead. Indeed in the sense that Isaac was figuratively dead [potentially sacrificed], he did [actually] receive him back from the dead.

Verse 18 was the real sting of the test! That's why Abraham,in verse 19, did not reason that God would give him another child (even though he had others and Ishmael showed he was not impotent) but would raise up the one of whom He had spoken and made such promises, if death had actually occurred.

Moreover, Sarah was 90 (in chapter 21) when she had Isaac and Genesis 23 records her death at 127 yrs meaning the events between Genesis 21 (when Isaac was born) and 22 was 37 years: long enough for Isaac to had grown and Abraham and Sarah to have aged even more and since the promise of a child had been fulfilled, there was no expectation on the part of Sarah to bear any new ones hence the test of faith.(apart from Ishmael and Isaac, Abraham had other sons after Sarah died meaning the trial of faith was particularly concerning the one of whom God had spoken)

Confirmer:
In the end, it all boils down to one thing that "Lord" Jesus didn't wanna die via "let this cup pass over me" but he was forced, coerced or persuaded to take on the cross.

Here you go! He was neither forced, coerced or persuaded! Yes He endured the cross. (that's because going to the cross was not a walk in the park!)
Rather, for One Who had always been in Vital relationship with the Father, death (separation from God due to the sins laid on Him) was an unthinkable source of unbearable sorrow.
Matthew 26:38
38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death:

On the cross, this was the only outcry! My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me!

Your submission contradicts:
Luke 18:31-33
31 Then taking the Twelve [apostles] aside, He said to them, Listen! We are going up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written about the Son of Man through and by the prophets will be fulfilled.
32 For He will be handed over to the Gentiles and will be made sport of and scoffed and jeered at and insulted and spit upon.
33 They will flog Him and kill Him; and on the third day He will rise again.

If He was forced or coerced, the verse on calling for legions of angels will be superfluous

We can still make amends; we need to return to Pentecost (not just for the thrill of speaking in tongues!).

Confirmer:
You said Ishmael is the first son and in Genesis when God was referring to the one who was offered for Sacrifice
Genesis 22:16-18
“I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, 18 and through your offspring[a] all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me.”
Who is the only son since Ishmael came first? Isaac

The events in Genesis chapter 22 were recorded after those in chapter 21 wherein Ishmael and his mum were sent off:
Genesis 22:1
[b]After these events, God tested and proved Abraham and said to him, Abraham! And he said, Here I am.

A hebrew wrote this:
Hebrews 11:17-19
By faith Abraham, when he was put to the test [while the testing of his faith was [d]still in progress], [e]had already brought Isaac for an offering; he who had gladly received and welcomed [God’s] promises was ready to sacrifice his only son,
18 Of whom it was said, Through Isaac shall your descendants be reckoned.
19 For he reasoned that God was able to raise [him] up even from among the dead. Indeed in the sense that Isaac was figuratively dead [potentially sacrificed], he did [actually] receive him back from the dead.

Verse 18 was the real sting of the test! That's why Abraham,in verse 19, did not reason that God would give him another child but would raise up the one of whom He had spoken, if death had actually occurred.

Confirmer:
So Jesus is only human after ally at the bolded.

I mentioned humanity because:
John 1:14
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

And the angel that appeared came to strengthened him for his death or to pray further? Because in Luke 22:44 (after the angel has appeared unto him from heaven) "and being in agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground".

This is not the first time an angel would strengthen a person in view of a task: Elijah, Daniel, Ezekiel had the same experiences (passages are available on demand). But nowhere in the Bible did angel strengthen anyone to pray; the Holy Spirit does.

Why was Jesus still in agony after the angel appeared?

this is not a physical agony; something similar happened here:
John 11:38
Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave.
This is still the experience of any real believer today who knows what it means to carry a prayer burden:

Romans 8:26
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered

John 18:11 was not referring to mount Gethsemane but when they came to arrest him.

Yes. That was in the same garden of Gethsemane after the prayer, when the soldiers came. It shows He was now ready to face the Cross! Before this time He had said:

Matthew 26:38
38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death:

This weight of sorrow was gone when the abductors came. How? The strength received in answer to prayer!

Confirmer:
Mathew 26:39 And going a little further he fell on his face and prayed, saying, "my father, if it be possible,let this cup pass from me". That's the prayer of Gethsemane. Jesus was unwilling to be humiliated and he wasn't referring to any angel for strength.

And each time, He qualified it by saying:

Matthew 26:39
...nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

This sure points to His humanity!

Luke records the following:
Luke 22:43
43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.

After this prayer, He was able to say:

John 18:11
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

Confirmer:
So we both agree that Ishmael is the first son. Who was offered for sacrifice?

Isaac.

Confirmer:
The bible is never a good source for me because of so many contradictions. Jesus was aware of these prophesies and he went to the mount Gethsemnie and pleaded with God not to be killed and FORSAKEN . Eli Eli Lama Sabathani. HOW WILL I AGREE WITH THE PROPHESIES OF ISIAH AND DANIEL IF JESUS DIDNT AGREE WITH THEM?

The highlighted was said on the Cross, not in Gethsemane:

Meanwhile, Jesus statement in Gethsemane shows He was not praying against dying on the Cross:

Matthew 26:53-54
53 Do you suppose that I cannot appeal to My Father, and He will immediately provide Me with more than twelve legions [[q]more than 80,000] of angels?
54 But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must come about this way?

If He did not want to die on the Cross, why did He not call for the angels seeing He wont be denied?

Before now, Jesus had said:
Luke 18:31-33
31 Then taking the Twelve [apostles] aside, He said to them, Listen! We are going up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written about the Son of Man through and by the prophets will be fulfilled.
32 For He will be handed over to the Gentiles and will be made sport of and scoffed and jeered at and insulted and spit upon.
33 They will flog Him and kill Him; and on the third day He will rise again.


The answer to the prayer in Gethsemane is seen by the angel coming to strengthen.

Confirmer:
Let's clarify some issues. Who was Abraham first child between Isaac and Ishmael? Who was offered for Sacrifice? Let's start from there.

In that order:Ishmael;Isaac.

But God's statement to Abraham concerning Isaac already lays to rest that which you seek to clarify:

Genesis 21:12
12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Besides, Isaac,borne by Sarah, was the child of Promise. Any controversy on this?

@ Op, your action is highly commendable!

(Although it is unfortunate that the girl was taken to a charlatan, these things do exist! {I speak from experience and personal study!})

Confirmer:
Of course. You are not a Muslim if you are in doubt of Jesus the son of Mary (pbuh) being the promised Messiah of the children of Israel (Mathew 15:24)

Okay. Since you believe all the previous prophets, do you agree with this prophesied by Isaiah & Daniel:

Isaiah 53:12
Therefore will I divide Him a portion with the great [kings and rulers], and He shall divide the spoil with the mighty, because He poured out His life unto death, and [He let Himself] be regarded as a criminal and be numbered with the transgressors; yet He bore [and took away] the sin of many and made intercession for the transgressors (the rebellious).

Daniel 9:26
And after the sixty-two weeks the Anointed One[Messiah] shall be killed and shall have nothing

Confirmer:
And also the son of the bonds woman, I will make a nation also, because he {is} thy seed. Gen. 21:13. The Bible is not a reliable source bro because it's just too confusing.

But there was no specific reference to a Seed in Whom all the Nations of the earth will be blessed in Ishmael's case! Bro, there is nothing confusing there! God specifically told Abraham that in Isaac shall your seed be called!

Confirmer:
In the quoted verse, was Jesus mentioned or was inferred? A similar and better verse was revealed in the Quran about the the offspring of Ismael when the Holy Mosque was being erected by Abraham and Ismael.

What would you say to this:

Genesis 26:1-4
And there was a famine in the land, other than the former famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went to Gerar, to Abimelech king of the Philistines.
2 And the Lord appeared to him and said, Do not go down to Egypt; live in the land of which I will tell you.
3 Dwell temporarily in this land, and I will be with you and will favor you with blessings; for to you and to your descendants I will give all these lands, and I will perform the oath which I swore to Abraham your father.
4 And I will make your descendants to multiply as the stars of the heavens, and will give to your posterity all these lands (kingdoms); and by your Offspring shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, or by Him bless themselves,


God reiterated the same promise to Isaac! This has nought to do with Ishmael! God said to send away Ishmael because Isaac was the promised child and the one by whom the promises will be fulfilled!

Genesis 21:12
12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

That these matters were established milleniums before your religion vis a vis your claims of this applying to Ishmael raises serious concerns!

@ Confirmer, do muslims see Jesus as the promised Messiah?

Confirmer:
Malvisguy212 you are running everywhere opening new threads and losing out in the end. Don't you get tired? Whenever the Quran is talking about the Gospel, it's actually talking about the inspiration received from God via Ruhu liQudus (Holy Spirit) or Angel Gabriel. Do you guys think Jesus was reading the Gospel to the Children of Isreal from a book ? Jesus message was meant for the Israelites ALONE and the Gospel wasn't meant to last forever and that's why it's corrupted. God is capable of protecting is book like the Quran has been protected from any addition or alteration for CENTURIES. The bible was reviewed by scholars as early as in the 1900s and alterations and additions were made. There is only one universal Quran unlike the Bible. The contradictions in the Bible is so much that Nairaland won't be able to contain it. Salam.

Jesus came in fulfilment of God's promise to Abraham:

Genesis 22:18

18 And in your Seed [[e]Christ] shall all the nations of the earth be blessed and [by Him]
bless themselves, because you have heard and obeyed My voice.

He came through Israel and they, being the biological descendants, had that first benefit but after His Passion, all that believe (and receive Him as their Lord and Saviour) from all nations are blessed!

(The real scholars will respond in due time) Consider the following principles in the NT,

1. 1 Corinth 16:2
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him,
Giving is to be done in proportion to God's prosperity received.

2 2 Corinth 9:7
7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver
According to your level of faith, give to the extent to which you can do cheerfully.


3. 2 Corinth 8:2
2 For in the midst of an ordeal of severe tribulation, their abundance of joy and their depth of poverty [together] have overflowed in wealth of lavish generosity on their part.
Giving should be sacrificial. This understanding should back (2) else we would please ourselves.

4 2 Corinth 9:6
6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

God is not mocked; blessings will be directly proportional to our giving and this makes for growth in this grace.


5. 2 Corinth 8:3,4
3 For, as I can bear witness, [they gave] according to their ability, yes, and beyond their ability; and [they did it] voluntarily,
4 Begging us most insistently for the favor and the fellowship of contributing in this ministration for [the relief and support of] the saints [in Jerusalem].
Like David said, giving must be to some extent, costly (sometimes this cost is measured by the alternative foregone).

6 2 Corinth 8:5
5 Nor [was this gift of theirs merely the contribution] that we expected, but first they gave themselves to the Lord and to us [as His agents] by the will of God [[a]entirely disregarding their personal interests, they gave as much as they possibly could, having put themselves at our disposal to be directed by the will of God]—

The first thing we can give to God is ourselves; if this is missing others are rejected.

7 Romans 12:1

12 I appeal to you therefore, brethren, and beg of you in view of [all] the mercies of God, to make a decisive dedication of your bodies [presenting all your members and faculties] as a living sacrifice, holy (devoted, consecrated) and well pleasing to God, which is your reasonable (rational, intelligent) service and spiritual worship.

In accentuating (6), the motive behind our giving is our appreciation of the mercies received from God and a concomitant commitment to His purpose on earth; not necessarily with eyes on reward. (Mary did not have her mind on reward, but was expressing her gratitude when she bought the costly ointment)

In doing the above, you will see that the tithe option appears more convenient (to the flesh) because anyone following these principles will ,without compulsion, give more than 10%. Like other NT directives, it takes grace through faith to give!

Personally (I am not a pastor/clergyman!) I see the issue of tithe as a guide for those who , in view of the above principles, will ask, "how much is not too small for a start?"

Now the references above speak of giving (both to God and to those in need. In the NT, we are indebted to both) as (1) and Ephesians 4:28 show.

MizJanet:
Jesus owns that name according to bible , your stuborn attitude will even make you disobey your holy book .

Revelation 19:16 " on his robe and on his thigh , he has this NAME written ' King of kings and Lord of lords '" , that NAME belongs to whom ? Jesus or his Father. Very Clear .

LOL , anyway am not suprised though . The moment you started by saying those features applies to the Light . I knew you are clueless

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Syncan:
Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

It matters not how you twist and turn, the above still tells you what concludes Peter's mission to them. It is in baptism that they now died with Christ and rose new men. "accepted" was used by peter and not me, so do you understand it as being saved?

When did this take place, before or after baptism:

Acts 15:8,9

And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 and put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

What else does salvation do in us? Note that they were purified not by baptism but by faith (which came by hearing).

And as to the death and resurrection with Christ, did that happen at baptism or when the Spirit came and their hearts were purified?

1 Corinth 12:13
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Baptism was the outward testimony of the afore-stated which occurred when they believed!

Syncan:
Peter never said the Holy Ghost came after his talk,

I didnt say he said so either. Neither does Acts suggests Peter had ended all he had to say! Acts 10:44 shows that the event occurred while Peter was still speaking!

he said He had hadly started when the Holy Ghost came.

That qualifier is not in the Bible. Acts 11:14 shows that Peter's terms of reference was to preach which he indeed started doing.

I am not introducing anything new, don't dodge facts, Verse 35 tells you that they were accepted by God already But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

First you said they were chosen to be saved, now you say they were already accepted! Pray, Peter did not go there to assure/flatter them! He went to ," tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved."(Acts 11:14)

It is you who said Peter couldn't have continued after the Holy Ghost came, but You agree that Peter was interrupted, yet you say that all that was written was said before the interruption. This is Peter who possibly stayed more than one day with them, as seen in the last verse of acts 10.

Hear Acts 10:44
While Peter yet spake these words... Which? the one recorded from verse 34-43

The angel told cornelius to send for peter that Peter may bear witness to the teachings of christ and baptize them for their salvation, a function he made sure to perform.

Now you rephrase the Word to justify your church's tradition! They were soundly converted when they believed and God Who saw their hearts responded to their faith that came by hearing!

For the records"

Acts 11:13,14
13 and he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter; 14 who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved

italo:
@scholar8200,

Me

You


Seeing that Paul was only baptized and had his sins washed away Acts22:16, when Ananias got to him, are you saying a person can be saved, and remain with his previous sins?

Saved and remain with sins is like saying healed and remained with the sickness.

Acts 22:16
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Ananias gave this exhortation to Paul but it did not mean Paul had not done them! He had been calling on the Name of the Lord with fasting (3 days)prior to this time and the Lord confirmed this! (and Romans 10:13 says For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.)
Besides, your perspective subtly changes that verse to read thus: "arise, and be baptized 'to' wash away your sins!" This is not true!

Each clause in that verse stands on its own and this view is confirmed by scripture. If you claim that wash away thy sins depends on baptism then I can logically say he cant call on the Lord except his sins are washed away , but the Lord Himself confirmed that Paul had been praying when Ananias was sent!

Just like it happened to Isaiah, Paul's encounter with Jesus was a time of both cleansing and commissioning:

Acts 26:14-18 confirms this. In fact, by the time Ananias was sent to Paul the Lord called him a chosen vessel (meaning he had been purged and was fit for the Master's use)

Acts 9:15

15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

johnydon22:
I don't think not believing in something is a belief of the negate. . . They don't believe in neither angels or spirit. . that means they don't. . Thats a negate and beliefs are not for negates. .

Noted.

DrLazDevitan:
Don't use fallacy to mediate or butress your point.You can make spittles without water!

The primary reference of my question understood the essence thereof. Apparently you dabbled in at the wrong time. Kindly go over the trail of discussion. The purpose of that question was to establish if the discussion was necessary seeing he believes man and animals are nothing more than a mass of flesh and blood.

This was a discerning advice:

sportsmaster:
stop wasting your time with this lady.
She dint come to learn,she came here to mock.
2cor4:3 is referring directly to her.

MizJanet:
Are you serious at all ? @ underlined , that verse said " whom ALONE " is alone used for two persons ?



@bold , do you forget that verse 16 is a CONTINUATION of verse 15 ?

With your answer , So the father is the person christians called " King of kings and Lord of lords" ? Its no more Jesus right ?

The concluding part refers to vs 13-16. The post before this clearly points out the fact that vs 15 (&16) relates to the Father, while vs 13 relates to Christ.

That title applies to GOD (One Attribute of the Triune God) just as in Revelations one place calls the Father Alpha and Omega while another place uses the same for the Son.

I dont expect you to agree to this too; the tone of your replies have been that of one who is out to scoff. However, this replies are more for those who you seek, by this post, to overthrow.

Syncan:
This much was all that was recorded he told them in his visit. But verse 44 made it clear that he had hadly said these before the Holy Spirit fell on them
While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

And like I pointed out earlier, Peter confirmed this 10:44 when he spoke in 11:15-17. Peter was very clear with regards to when the Holy Spirit came on them " As I began to speak...". Again note that in verse 17 he differentiated them at this point, from "...us, who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ". And this was why peter decided immediately to baptize them without further talks. For God had Chosen them to be saved.

Peter could not have continued preaching after the Holy Ghost came! Those words were recorded because he uttered them before the descent of The Spirit on the gathering, not after! Acts 15:8,9 specifically states that they believed! What did they believe?! And for what intent did the angel command Cornelius to send for Peter?! Is it not that the latter might preach the Gospel (as recorded) to them? Acts 10:44 shows that Peter was still on his message when the Divine interruption took place but it will be illogical to claim Peter did not say all that was recorded! Were those his thoughts?

As per the highlighted, its interesting that you appear to be introducing a new (but needless) idea.

Peter spoke all that was recorded, the people gathered believed, God saw the faith in their hearts and bestowed a double blessing! That simple!