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Lushore1:
Hahhah...do you also remember this....?

OMMFG!!

I remember!!
This is the best Yoruba song of Beninoise origin ever!

Lushore1:
Oluwakemi from benin....

Iwo nikan ni paracetamol mi....
lool.

Radoillo:
He has explicitly said his father was Ghanaian in the past. There was one thread sometime in 2013 where he was moaning and railing against Nigerians for expelling Ghanaian immigrants in the 1980s. I won't be surprised if his family was affected by that expulsion order, and he is still butt-hurt about it, hence his anti-Nigeria tirades.

Bahahaha!
It started becoming funny (and ridiculous) when he started saying that Oprah, Chris Rock, Trey Songz, Chris Tucker and some AA's with obvious white admixture didn't look 'West African" but looked "Bantu".... Lmfao.... What is the WA look? What is the Bantu look?
This Niggur was probably using his Paternal family members from Kumasi as a proxy yardstick for what all West Africans are supposed to look like or something. Because I know that even within Ghana it is well known that the Ewes of the Volta region many-a-times have a different look from the Akan groups.

Radoillo:
I can't understand this person's fascination with the slave trade. He manages to change the discussion on any thread he jumps into into a discussion of how many Bantu were enslaved versus how many Southeastern Nigerians were enslaved.

He isn't even technically Bantu, Scholes. He is of Ghanaian ancestry. Appears his family emigrated to South Africa. I bet South Africans derogatively refer to him as Kwerekwere...as they do other West Africans.

lmfao...
You know, I was actually wondering where the name Kwame came rom, I at first, I thought he was AA who just chose a Ghanaian name to celebrate his/her African roots, and then later did a DNA test which showed he was related to a Bantu speaking African group...
Then I went through his posts and discovered all his other anti Nigerian rhetorics, I started thinking he was actual SA bantu.

So he has Ghanaian ancestry? lol...... Trolls everywhere sha.

Egungun on display

Ihuomadinihu:
The Bantu post and pictures is not important or beneficial to Nigerians/West Africans. You keep struggling to be part of a Slavery record. Isn't that ridiculous and extremely preposterous?
Anyway, Bantu and their origins/relationship with West Africa is a common knowledge in the intellectual world. Everyother argument happening here is just a waste of time and energy.
Your post and pictures are very inconsequential and irrelevant among experts in this field! :DToo bad!

The funniest part is that he is from South Africa, a country thousands of Miles from Northern Angola, which as the southernmost reach of Slavery.
The predominant YDNA haplogroup of all Niger Congo groups is E, and predominantly the subclade E1b1b.

It is preset in some sample African poplations in the following ratios

Bantoid Cameroon: 93.3%
Bamileke: 100%
Ghana: 92.3%
Mandinka: 79%
Igbo: 90.0%
Bantu (Gabon): 80.0%
Mossi (Burkina): 90.0%
Kikuyu (Kenya Bantu): 73.0%
Fon (Benin): 95.0%
Nande (DRC Bantu): 100%
Yoruba: 92.0%
Hutu (Rwanda Bantu): 83%
Senegalese: 81.3%

And someone is here claiming what does not exist... lol

StarFlux:
Bee ni. Zeynab is pretty good. I listen to here tunes on occassion - good stuff.

How did you first discover her?
Just got to know about her, and she's keeping it real.

kwametut:
^^^^Early Afro Jamaicans in 1600s were mainly Congolese origin and changed later in 1700-1750s the Gold Coast took over. In the 1800s Angola Congo came back along with Bight of Biafra slaves, these two regions were dominant in the late stage of slavery in JA.

Why are you deriving so much joy from slavery records?
You wish South African blacks were part of them or something?

Kwametut

Let them REBASE THE MEDAL TABLE lol grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin this country is all about FALSE IMPRESSIONS.

Mr Kwametut SouthAfrican boy, I saw this from the locked All Africa games thread...

But this turned out being the final results ...
Who is laughing now.......

https://s2.postimg.org/6n20j92xl/Screen_Shot_2015_12_19_at_6.jpg

* Senegambia (Senegal and the Gambia): 4.8%
* Upper Guinea (Guinea-Bissau, Guinea and Sierra Leone): 4.1%
* Windward Coast (Liberia and Ivory Coast): 1.8%
* Gold Coast (Ghana and east of Ivory Coast): 10.4%
* Bight of Benin (Nigeria west of the Niger Delta, Benin, Togo): 20.2%
* Bight of Biafra (Nigeria east of the Niger Delta, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon): 14.6%
* West Central Africa (Republic of Congo, Democratic Republic of Congo and Angola): 39.4%
* Southeastern Africa (Mozambique and Madagascar): 4.7%

Western Africa = 55.9%
Bantu Africa = 44.1%
With a lot of slaves from Bantu Africa going to Brazil.

What is the argument even about?

Radoillo:
I didn't know Camerounpride was still arguing against Southern Bantu people having Khoisan admixture, something genetic studies have decisively shown to be a fact.

http://m.phys.org/news/2013-01-genetic-admixture-southern-africa-ancient.html

https://www.mpg.de/6830744/Khoisan-lineages-Bantu-groups

You didn't even need to poke around the genes to know this. You only needed to look at the eyes, the flat faces and cheekbones (not to mention the complexion and 'ridiculous' butts) of a good number of black Southern Africans (the Nguni, especially) to know this.

Just wait till he comes back.
He will tell you that genetics is a lie.

He thinks all those people in Congo, Angola, Zambia etc are a race.

anonimi:
China was BRUTALLY colonized also by Japan and then Britain.
India was colonized by Britain and gained independence in 1948 i.e. 12 years ahead of Nigeria and most BLACK African countries, not so
Did they lose their religions completely in a wholesale manner as we did?

Again I ask, are we not MENTALLY lazy as a GROUP?

Since you keep complaining about us being mentally Lazy as a group, what do you suggest we do to revive some of our lost values ?
Or are you only good at digging up quotes?

Dibi Dobo Ft Angelique Kidjo - Ekomole
Benin.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t3zWs4BMCUo/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/1vsrJI4EDXc/photo.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA9jChc1GAw

^^ Interesting.

Cuba


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt0taRu0dE0

anonimi:
Why did we ALLOW them force it down our throats
Is it because we are mentally LAZY as a group?
Any thoughts?

No, Yorubas were not known to be a mentally Lazy group.
Many resisted their new religion, infact many of our descendants abroad never gave in (or at least not fully)
In Nigeria, some still practice the religion original to our people, which these people have tried times without number to demonize.

You must realize that all these foreign religions gained so much ground as they have today not in a single period, but over decades upon decades of constant negative propaganda and brainwashing of our people. But the Ooni , given the value and the integrity of the post he holds should have known better.

yemmy69:
who is them most supreme Ooni orGOD be guided.

God or Olodumare is supreme, and the Ooni is Igba Ikeji Orisha, which means Second in cmmand to God.
He is not "Igba Ikeji Jesu", or "Igba Ikeji Pope"

anonimi:
I thought we were colonized by Europeans while Christianity is from the Middle East, not so

The Europeans were the ones who made us convert to christianity, although the religion's origins are middle-eastern.
After dumping their own God and corrupting the original beliefs of the middle easterners by infusing their idolatry concepts such as trinity into christianity, they then came to us and shove their new concocted hybrid christianity down our throats.

anonimi:
Does Olodumare reside in a particular place e.g. Shrine

No.
So what is your question?

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
The women don't look San to me , maybe the girl in the middle and that's even a stretch ...the girls on the left and the right look like your average market woman in Cameroon and there are no San here ....as for the boys only the dude with the glasses with his chinko eyes same with the girls , then again I know people in Cameroon with the same chinko eyes ..I hope you know there are genetic adaptation, it very likely that Bantu dapated to their new environment

The Bantu speaking migrants wouldn't adapt to any environment so quickly. You think Adaptation happens in one day.
Infact as at the time Dutch seafarers first reached the cape of good hope, they saw some new wave of Bantu migrants still migrating into Southern Africa, while some had already been there, such as Xhosas who intermarried with san groups of the Cape.

Why are you refuting everything i am telling you, and which are based on facts? You actually think Bantus are a race?

chris4vic:
OMG, who did u think Ooni knelt down for? You claim you have Olodumare, still ua mad at someone who knelt down for God who created heaven and earth! Your case no get meaning..... I won't waste my data on top ur madness

Olodumare does not reside in a church.
We didnt have churches in Yorubaland before "They" came

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
You don't need to mix with someone to copy his speech patterns , I will guess the Bantu find hard to communicate with khoi and they had to adapt , I mean the Bantu were in a new environment so anything to gain rapid knowledge from khoi was welcomed. They are people talking with funny white accents in Cameroon yet have never been in a plane.

False Tswana are pure Bantu ....they existed before arriving to modern botswana, + there are still sans in Botswana. They don't look anything like Tswana, look please google tswana don't just make assumptions , even during their king celebration were he picks women , how many sans are among those women ?

The question should b why exactly would Bantu mix with San ?

Tswana are not of the Pure Bantu speaking Stock that came from West Africa, Go and read up on Tswana origins and genetics.
And here I was thinking this was common knowledge. Clearly, it is not.

Look at Tswanas below.
https://www.cruxnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/blushing-makoti-lerato-mogale-22-717x450.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5699/23724075662_e8dab1e402_c.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5710/23832506145_547cbe7b5d_c.jpg

And they are clearly San-esque in outlook.
These are Sans

https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m91t3hK0KA1qaonh9o1_500.png

See Bantus below

https://www.johntyman.com/africa/a024.jpg

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
What I meant was if it wasn't for colonization and colonial borders which include maps, Igboland or most of Nigeria esp southern and eastern part wouldn't be considered as west Africa and we wouldn't have this conversation. Like you said earlier Cameroon under German protectorate beofre WWI included those parts . but since we were booties of war they exchanged territories to settle other territories. Most of Cameroon was dismantled through such treaties that's how we lose Gabon , equatorial Guinea ,central afria and ultimately northern Nigeria . but back to the topic her similarities are only around cameroonian Bantu and it can't b the other way around because we constitute the bigger family.

No part of Southern nigeria was ever part of Cameroons.
This is German Kamerun at its widest extent (Green), and Southern Nigeria was never a part of it.
The only part that would have been voted to join French speaking cameroon in the referendum.

https://s15.postimg.org/hpvdit9ej/Screen_Shot_2015_12_18_at_3.jpg

Bantu constitute the bigger family only in Area and number of Speakers, But in terms of number of languages, all the other branches of the Niger -Congo family are in Western Africa, Such as Kwa, Bantoids (Semi-Bantus), Adamawa-Ubangui, West Benue-Congo Etc. Which s the real pointer to where Bantu speakers came from.

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
What are negroid like features ? Is Angelina Jolie a negro with her thick lips? Is Jennifer Lopez a negro or mari careh with her thick ass ? What you call afro is scientifically called curly hair, you mean you have never seen white people with curly hair ? While they might b longer than the average africans the texture will most likey b the same especially if the African live or was born in America or Europe our hair seems harder because in Africa the climate is hot and we must retain water evaporation.but curly is curly ..africans have curly hair just like some white people . do that make them negro ?

You are just saying this for talking sake.
Bring Angelina jolie with her lips and even make her hair curly as a bunus and place her in Lagos or Douala if she will not stand out.
Now bring 10 cameroonians or 10 congolese or 10 Bantu Keyans (Not the Nilotic types) and place them in Abidjan, Lagos or Monrovia if anyone will even notice. My dear stop denying the obvious for the sake of argument

I'm not denying anything, as it didn't happen on a large scale, it is all rubbish and propaganda, Bantu saw the sans ,as primitives and uncivilized, we pushed them further in the Kalahari desert, same with pygmies , they were pushed further in the forest, till date it is a taboo to marry one , whether in Rwanda or in Cameroon ,so it is very unlikely that your mass mixing ever occurred, what you should say is X or y Bantu married a San and the had some offsprings, but blank statements like Bantu mixed with San or nilotes are blatant lies ...does the average south African look like a San ? Does zuma or thabo mbeki look like a San ? Does museveni look like a nilote ? No and no white people populated America yet not one is talking about heavily mixing with Natives , while we didn't obliterate the sans and pygmies , we only cohabited with separate communities. Just like in America you can find some white with native ancestry, but is not the norm ,it is the exception.

What khoi San admixtures ?

Entire ethnic group such as Tswanas are Bantu settler and Khoisan autochtone Hybrids.

a large share of the Cape Coloureds, Xhosa and Tswana is of partial Khoisan descent, by far outnumbering the unassimilated Khoisan population.

Why do you think all these Southern African Bantus have all these weird clicks in their Languages while other bantu languages do not.

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
Unknown as in not being able to name it accurately just like most languages all over Europe , still the languages existed therefore we are ethnic group . in my ethnic alone and in Cameroon there are already variances so you can imagine how much you can find among the whole Bantu nation. Yes this is what this thread was about but the op failed to answer , she just gave us a blank statement Bantu are cousins of west af how? If anything is the igbos that are part of the Bantu family, doesn't she find weird that her similarities are only along the cameroonian border ? Can she find the same similarities with bambara in Mali? Or senoufou in ivory coast ? I don't think so....we know already that Cameroon is the craddle of the Bantu race, however we should not focus on modern Cameroon, by all accounts it is obvious that the craddle included modern Nigerian eastern-southern part precisely. In few words eastern Nigerians are of Bantu stock and not the other way around , Bantu have nothing in common with modern west af minus the groups mentioned. Besides if it wasn't for the colonial border and Germany losing the war Cameroon was bigger

You are making sense, but only 50% sense.
Mind you, not all Bantus look the same, so how on earth can you say it is the other way round?
Like I said before, the ancestors of all bantu speaking groups had superior agricultural skills which they developed somewhere in Eastern WA. then they ventures out and spread, displacing or absorbing Nilotes, Bushmen, Pygmies etc in other parts of Eastern, Central and Southern Africa.

https://sites.google.com/site/wwwbantumigration/_/rsrc/1364865634923/home/bantumigration.jpg

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
Term like negro race are outdated and non scientific. What is a negro ? Who is a negro? At least Caucasian directs to a known region .

Again with mixed and baseless analogy , you need to stop reading white supremacists , why San or "horn Africans " qualify for being race and Bantu who are even larger and more homogenous can't? Because the white said so ?

Bantu is a race because. We share the same genes , same phenotype same cultures and languages amid some small variances. Well if German is an ethnic group of ethnic Germans , then Bantu is an ethnic group of ethnic Bantu , with Bantu languages as their languages.

I have already debunked the myth of Bantu mixing with San or nilotes ....some occurrences of some or few Bantu marrying, of having sex with non Bantu is not and will never be the norms ..if the Bantu heavily mixed with San or nilotes as some people loce to say they wouldn't exist anymore .period, which is not the case , Bantu san & co are rare occurrences, just like Bantu pygmies/Baka/twa , we are distinct from them, we don't look alike and dont share the values or culture.

I dont know what is a guinean look maybe you can expantiate on that one , i sure do know that we in cameroon a bantu country or our neighbors, in gabon ,EG etc dont look anything like liberian, senegalese, gambian , the complexion is not even the same,

Negroids are people who exhibit Negroid or Negro-like features or a combination of a number of them, such as hair types, skin color Etc. Don't pretend like it does not exist, how many native Russians have you seen with a thick Afro?
If I am to go by your analogy, then all humans are the sae race too, because we basically share 99.9999999% of all our genes, the variation you think you observe in our physical looks account for less than you can even imagine in our genomes.

Yes, Bantus mixed with sans and Nilotes, why are you denying the obvious? go to Uganda and Kenya and see plenty bantu-nilote ethnic groups.
If you go to SA and Botswana, you will see plenty Bantu speaking groups who have obvious Khoi-San admixture.
What are the traits of the Bantu race?
Can you please enumerate them?

The Bantu languages are a subset of a West African language (probably lost). We are all classified as speakers of Niger-Cngo languages for a reason. of which one of the subsets, albeit the widest reaching one, is BANTU.

omobritiko:
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KEEP YOUR CULTURE,YOU SHOULD HAVE STAYED AWAY FROM SCHOOL...

No, I should have gone to School to learn my culture and probably also some elements of other peoples' cultures to enable me interact with them on a global level. Something like the Chinese or Japanese curriculum.
Not throw my own culture away.

chris4vic:
Shame on you, so God is not bigger than nonsense yourba tradition you mention? Did Kabiyesi knelt for pastor? Ode oshi.....

My Olodumare is not your white Jesus, that had to come via a slave raiding ship to manifest himself to Africans....Okay..
The white man have his God and I have Mine!!
Shame on You, not me!

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
I can't not answer you with authority. Buy from my own researches, what I have read, and my own understanding. We used to have a same language and throughout our migrations and us absorbing other groups the language diversified. So zulu,kiswahili, Ewondo, kinyarwanda, lingala etc are Bantu languages/ dialects .
Just like German & Igbo , you will agree with me that there is no central Igbo

That is what this thread is about.
That Language that you used to all have developed out of an Unknown language in the East of Nigeria/West of Cameroon , before spreading out and started becoming variated through distance and time.
The areas of East Africa used to be occupied by Nilotes and Cushites and Southern Africa used to be occupied by Sans before Batu language speakers from West Africa expanded due to the one advantageous thing they had in their arsenal (Advanced agricultural techniques) which ade them press further, produce more children and sustain greater populations than the hunter-gatherers and pastoralists that used to occupy these areas.

omobritiko:
Ahh ahh...This is 2015 and you still thinking like that?I wonder why you are writing in English,you should be writing in yoruba...Grow up and leave the Wise King alone...

If I had my way I would be typing this in nothing but Yoruba.
But I do my best to keep my culture in every other way I can.

chowlade:
Kabiyesi o eni keji orisa

this one is not ikeji Orisa anymore dear.
He is Omo Jesu now.

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
And Igbo is the name of a language not so?

German is not an ethnic group or a race it is a language , we can go on and in . Bantu is a race .period it is common knowledge that the name of a race is often the name of the language . your analogy doesn't make sense, if we were to follow it, then hausa ,Yoruba igbo etc are only languages

Yes German is an Ethnic group of Ethnic Germans and and spoken by them or other groups who speak it for various reasons.
How is Bantu a race? I only know of the Negro race and the Caucasian races in Africa. The San and the Horn Africans can be classified as semi-races.

The Bantu look is the "Guinean" look which begins in Guinea/Liberia/CV and spread all the way to Southern Africa, whith various other modification like mixing with Nilotes in Kenya or mixing with Sans in SA.

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
And Igbo is the name of a language not so?

German is not an ethnic group or a race it is a language , we can go on and in . Bantu is a race .period it is common knowledge that the name of a race is often the name of the language . your analogy doesn't make sense, if we were to follow it, then hausa ,Yoruba igbo etc are only languages

So what is the Language of the Bantus race?