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Onegai:
If those Germans had been Nazis, we wouldn't sound like anything because we wouldn't exist

Trousseau

Avant-garde

Facade (it has a cedilla at the bottom of the "c"

lol, the Nazis were basically an ideology that developed in the 2nd world war.
The German colonizers in Namibia, Tanzania and Cameroon were just as bad as the Nazis, committing countless Genocides of entire populations.

enieme:
I would have disbelieved that English has its roots in German language rather than freNch considering the fact that today it bears more similarities with French than it does with German.
The accent and diction are totally off yet it's a west Germanic language

It has a lot of vocabulary of French and/or Latin origin, but its basic structure, syntax and pronunciation are Germanic. (Note that being germanic is not the same as having roots in German language, it is just a name used to classify all the languages in that cluster)
For example the way the English would pronounce those words of Latin origin (Including French words), is not the same way An Italian would pronounce them.
Because even French has been hugely influenced by Germanic languages, the Franks who are the forebears of Modern people in North-Eastern France are actually a Germanic race- Their original germanic accents influenced the way they spoke their original bastardised latin, and that is why Even though French and Italian /Spanish are in the same language family, today French sounds completely different.

Not surprising.
English is actually at least 30% French.
Most French words entered English through the Norman (old French) invasion of England. If the French mainlanders hadn't invaded England, You and I in Nigeria would have probably sounded more like those cranky Germans and guttural Dutch people today.

Shay awon tun ni?
haba! this is becoming unbecoming.....

The Ogori peoples' status confuse me generally.
They speak Yoruba generally, but some say they are Ebira, others say they are their own ethnic group. Some even say that they are Edo.

WIZGUY69:
taaaaa!
Mr. Anambla/Akwa Ibom/cross river. what do you have for us today?

onye nzuzu.

lol!

Vulu:
I HEARD EMEKA IN OBIOKPO IN RIVERS STATE AND IKECHU IN DELTA STATE VOTED AGAINST BIAFRA IN THE REFERENDUM YOUR OGUN FATHER CONDUCTED IN YOUR YORUBA VILLAGE. PLEASE LET'S SEE THE COPY OF THE RESULTS.

Same way I heard Ayo in Warri, Omawumi in Koko, Ayodele oritsegbubemi in Sapele, Mr Oyegun in Benin, Ajayi in Afuze, Omagbemi in Escravos all claim to be from Nnewi town, east of the Niger river in the conducted poll for Oduduwa descendants and related ethnicities, near your father's village located in Abakaliki.
I demand to be Shown a copy of the voting sheets.

zendy:
Of course they will be content. The geo-political zone called 'SS' has no legal standing. It is not even recognised in the constitution. So why would anyone be concerned about a name that doesn't mean anything?

It doesen't mean anything to you or to the average Ijaw man?
In Nigerian parlance, South-South = Southern Minority.

That is why Imo and Ondo states can not be in the South-South, even though they are oil producing, because they are home to indigenous majority tribes of the south.

Vulu:
YORUBAMAN WHERE DO YOU REALLY STAND. ON A CERTAIN THREAD ABOUT THE NORTH OPPOSING BIRTH CONTROL, YOU DECLARED THAT EVERYBODY GO THEIR WAYS, HERE YOU ARE FIGHTING RELENTLESSLY AGAINST A PEACEFULL DISSOLUTION OF NIGERIA, AGAINST YOUR OWN STAND JUST FEW WEEKS AGO. WHY ARE YORUBAS LIKE THIS? I TIRE O.

See this m.oron typing in upper case.....
How does any of my comments on this thread contradict my views on peaceful dissociation?
Must you Igbos do attache by force to dissociate? That is what the problem is. The Southern Minorities say they are not Biafra, and all hell breaks loose, see gbege.

zendy:
True, the tribes have the right to do this. But the have never been given the right to do this in Nigeria. Lest we forget, 'Nigeria' and 'South-South' are mere geographical expressions created by Military dictators. That is why a referendum is very important. It is the only way to give the people the opportunity to choose the name they want to answer to

Well, I have never hear of any clamors emanating from the peoples of the South-South Geopolitical Zone on whether to be Identified as minority tribes or not. They all seem content in that Zone, including Ikwerre.

SUBWAY101:
Dont mind the coward, the dunce once lied he is from Akwa Ibom, I dont know why he is ashamed of his own tribe. Lolz

Everything surrounding them is Igbo these days.
If I was a neighboring tribe, I would be very wary.

winniz:
Even the Ex Governor of Cross Rivers state Liyel Smoke is an Igbo man from Abi LGA so the joke is on you.

lol, when did Liyel Imoke open his mouth to tell the world that he is Igbo?
The only people I know from Abi LG in my former University are definitely not Igbos.

zendy:
[b] SE/SW/SE are just geo-political zones. They are not names of any group of people. When Lugard came to West Africa to create Nigeria, he did not meet SE or SS. What Lugard met were tribes or ethnic groups. No tribe should speak for another tribe. The tribes should speak for themselves. It is sheer craziness of the highest order for anyone to claim that the over 30 tribes in this so called SS are 'one people'. That's like saying that the 2% Igala minority in Anambra are one people with Igbos or that the 1% of Idoma population in Enugu state are the same thing as Igbos. What connects an Efik man and a Bini man? What connects an Ibibio man and an Itsekiri man? As an Igbo man, I have even greater connection with some of these tribes as Igbo land has borders with with Ibibio and Efik land and we have traded and interacted for hundreds of years. So anyone calling the tribes of southern Nigeria by any name is a joker and a land grabber. As for the issue of Biafra, the tribes should speak for themselves by the power of their vote when a referendum comes. [/b]

While what you have said is true, if these different tribe see the advantage or benefit of coming together in a dog eat dog environment like Post Independent Nigeria, to protect themselves as minorities of the South, then no one should question their decision to call themselves by a cllective name and act as a collective force within the nigerian system.

winniz:
WTF are you talking about this Yoruba guy? I busted una usual lies and you resorted to posting trash.

Okay, quote me again, and see how I would go and edit that article and say there are many YOruba villages in Abi local governMent.
You think anything written on wikipedia is sacrosanct.....lol

winniz:
You are wrong, there are Igbo people in Abi Local Govt.

Abi is a local Government Area in Cross Rivers state Nigeria. It Contains several Igbo Villages and it's home to an annual cultural festival
http://en.w.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abi,_Nigeria

Ha! I just knew you would go and quote that wikipedia article that was edited by one mischievous person in October of this year.
They are all over Wikipedia manipulating and editing every article to suit their agenda.
At the end of the day, the reality on ground is the only thing that matters.

IdisuleOurOwn:
3 days to...

The zoo must fall

Hhahahaha, Guy you are a fery fery wicked sombody for reviving this thread

Is this thread back from hades?

lol

Jaja Wachuku as he was called then.......
E don tey wey our leaders don dey irresponsible.

Flyoruboy:
Dude, you have been busted severally for falsely claiming to be who and what you're not. Today you're from Akwa-IBom, tomorrow from Cross-River. Why don't you just come out and admit you're from Anambra where everyone knows you're originally from, and quit acting a fool? Be proud of your roots for once in your life, dammit!@$%

LOOOL!

juman:
Because our own country is bad.

Na only una get 'bad country' in the entire world...
Kontinuuu ......

WaffenSS:
Imagine if we grant them Biafra....

Its entire GDP would be based on drugs.

Colombia would envy Biafra, Land of the Rising Cocaine.

Laff don tear my stomach ....

SUBWAY101:
Keep fooling yourself, you have been busted many times. Dont you have shame? Coward

Are you minding the imposter.... lol saying Abi LG is a mixture of Igbo and Ibibio.....
Abi Local government (Itigidi) are their own ethnic group, who are one of the minorities in Cross River state, neither Ibo nor Ibibio.

When shit hits the fan, only then will some people realize that they are on their own in this country.......
The minorities of the South asked for their autonomy shortly after independence, Yorubas gave the Edos, Itsekiris, Etsakos, Urhobos, Isokos Eastern Ijaws, Aniomas and Esans autonomy, but the Igbos clung tight like a leech to the Ibibios, Ekois, Yalas, Efiks, Orons, Ogonis, Eastern Ijaws etc.
Fast forward to 2015, they all have some sense of unity in their various minority statutes and independence from influence of the majority tribes, BUT Some same set of people want to drag them back into a quagmire of perpetual slavery.....

Me I don book space here for Oduduwa nation

btw, why are your people rowing a boat with an upside down American flag hoisted on it....lolz

So, from what I can deduce, the Oyos are the largest, followed by the Ekitis.

Ok Mr Lawani, Mo ti Gbo o....

lawani:
There was no central authourity in Ekiti in the past. This is why I said they had no unified identity pre Nigeria. All the communities held themselves separate and communities like Efon Alaaye are more of Ijesa. All the communities you mentioned in Ondo are more of Ijesa also, by dialect and history of many resident families. Then the Ijesa, Ife and etc are thesame as Ekiti by dialect. The Ijesa were better nation builders than the Ekiti who preferred to live in laid back and unambitious communities.

But what has this got to do with anything? Ekitis lived in autonomous communities does not mean they didn't have an Identity. And even if they didn't, they have had one for many many years now. It is well known that the Eastern Yoruba subgroups preferred to live in numerous autonomous communities, akin to the Igbos, compared to the Western Yoruba subgroups who preferred building city states. That is why if you pay a closer look at Yorubabland, the population densities of Akokoland, Ekitiland, Ijebuland and parts of Osun state are substantially greater than those of Oyo state, Kwara state and Western Ogun. Are you saying all these peoples had no identities as well, because they didn't follow a city-state style of identity building?
The settlement patterns of the Ijeshas is not that different from that of the Ekitis, you have Ilesha and many other smaller hamlets scattered around the vicinity, the Ekitis have Ado, Akure, and numerous other towns that are much bigger than that of the Ijeshas, so how exactly are the Ijeshas better nation builders?

Ekiti is derived from the Yoruba word "Okiti", meaning Hilly or Hills, which didn't allow most communities to become huge expansive settlements like Ibadan or Ilorin, they simply built in accordance with their environment. But that does not mean they didn't know whom they were, if not, the Ekitis of Kwara wouldn't have asked the colonial administration to shift the borders of Southern Nigeria further northwards, to separate them from the Ilorin leaning Igbominas. Till today, only Otun Ekiti was returned to the Southern protectorate among the northern Ekiti towns.

lawani:
The Oyo are the largest group of Yoruba, controlling most of the big towns Ibadan, Ogbomosho, Ilorin, Osogbo, Offa and etc

Well, the Oyos might just tip the Ekitis to being the largest or be the second largest themselves, but let us look at it critically, Oyo state itself is not all Oyo, there are still the Ibarapas, and others. Cities like Osogbo, Okuku, Ikirun, Ejigbo, and Offa are Igbolos, I see you think they are Oyos, but they are actually not the same.. Ilorin on its own part, is a cosmopolitan city made up of Oyos, Ibolos, Igbominas, Ekitis, Nupes Etc.
Ekitis cover all of Ekiti state which is already Half of Oyo, and parts of the adjacent areas including Akure.
Anybody interested can do the math sha.

lawani:
all settled after the Oyo were dislodged from the North by Fulani jihadists. Ijebu and Remo together should be more than Ekiti even if you add up all the Ekitis together. Towns under the Ijebu are Ijebu Ode, Ijebu Igbo, Shagamu, Ikorodu, Epe and many others. The main Ekiti town is Ado, then there are Ikere, Efon Alaaye and etc. If you add up all the towns that were under Ijesha in the past, it would be Ilesa, Akure, Osogbo, Ipetu Ijesa, Ibokun, Esa Oke, Ido Osun and etc but Akure and Osogbo are out. Osogbo is dominated by Oyo though prominent families claim Ijesa origin while Akure has come into their own. Ijesas are sizeable in the diaspora. The Akoko are also in Edo and Ondo states, the Ikale are in Ondo too, Igbomina in Osun and Oyo with capital in Ila Orangun and etc. If there is proper delineation, a new Ijesa state may add back old territories including Osogbo and Akure, places like Efon Alaaye, Ilaramokin and many Ondo parts speaking Ijesa may join too which will mean Ijesa will be more than Ekiti. As it is presently Oyos are clearly more than Ekiti if not more than double, same with Ijebu with their spread in Lagos and Ogun states

No, the towns established after Oyo-Ile and surrounding towns were displaced are well documented in Yoruba history, such as Ibadan.
But some of them have always been there. Also, Ijebus aren't more than Ekitis. Even the Jebus can't say that. Ijebu East, which is the core of Ogun state isn't even up to Ekiti state in population.
You have to realize that the Ekitis do not have many big towns, Ado is the only town over 400,000, but they have numerous small towns that are spread and cover every where, that is why you hear so many towns of "This-Ekiti", "That-Ekiti", "That-Ekiti", "That one-Ekiti" "This-one-Ekiti" etc
Ilesha was and is still the largest town of the Ijeshas, Akure was an Ijesha town? How sir? How can the Ijeshas be more than the Ekitis, Mr Lawani, that is out of the question.

lawani:
You can't say Akure is Ekiti because the Ijesha also claim them, so Akure is Akure. Not Ekiti if Ijesha is not Ekiti. Same is true for all those places you mentioned in Ondo, they are more of Ijesha because there is actually no unit as Ekiti because all the town hold themselves separate from others and speak related but different dialects. It is now that an Ekiti identity is being created in Nigeria.

If not for the incursion of the Benin empire and later Ibadan in Osogbo. Large parts of Ondo and Ekiti would have been Ijesha as they were in the past.

What do you mean by saying the Ekiti Identity was only formed/created by Nigeria?
Ekiti existed as far back as Yoruba subgroups called themselves Igbomina or Akoko or Ibolo or Egba. And what does it mater when the Identity is created anyways? Egbado/Yewa and Okun are two of some of the the most recent creations among yoruba subgroups, the former through war resettlement and the later through a need to coalesce and create a common identity among the most north-eastern Yoruba subgroups. The point is that these people see the commonality between one another and find it compatible to come under one umbrella as one. Akure has always been Ekiti, before the British made it the regional capital of a new Ondo division under Western nigeria.
Ijeshas have always had their own seperate identity, and the only areas of similarity are as to be expected in the border areas. Ikole or Ise has nothing to do with Ibokun, rather the Jeshas should look westwards towards the Ibolos and Ifes to find more similarity.
Ekiti land stretches from parts of Kwara in the North to parts of Ondo in the South, bordered by the Akoko and Yagba in the east and by the Ijesha and Ondos in the west. The largest Yoruba sub-unit of people (Population-wise)

https://s28.postimg.org/h9lsh4iz1/Screen_Shot_2015_12_26_at_11.jpg

lovely17:
Rubbish he keeps building them in his home town F*CKTARD

At least it is still within the state.
Do you want everything to be situated in Akure?

Next time when another governor comes from another senatorial district within the state, they would also build things in their areas.
That is how development spreads out.

More pics.

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Kudos to the state Governor.
You have set an example.