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kayfra:
Where is Anambra, Imo, Abia, Ebonyi and Enugu on that map?

Do you want him to include SE states in that? No no I pray he don't.

Congrates to the iron lady. You are the role model to my hobby, an epitome of peace, uniqueness and impeccable character to me.

DaudaAbu:
''18 Midwestern Oil & Gas & Suntrust Oil Umsadege (OML 56 ) Igbokwe Ken, Afejuku Anthony, Daultry Akpeti, Sagoe Kweku-Mensah, Gambo Lawan, Oshevire William, Mordi Sylvanus, Maidoh Daniel, Fatayi-Williams Babatunde, Mohammed Waziri, Emerhor Otega, Dublin-Green Winston, Mohammed Abubakar, Oduah Stella, Okafor Ugo and Baba-Ahmed Mouftah.''



Stella oduah too follow get oil field ehhhhnn nawa ohhh

which kind thing be this now, na only stella you see?

Chikpat:
Directlly no! Indirectly yes! If in doubt see d subject; Nobody Can Arrest Jonathan, Ijaw Youths Tell Buhari

We all know he can pull some strings to arrest someone but you made it look as if he has the absolute right for that.

Chikpat:
Nobody can dictate to d president wu to arrest or not

Does the president have right to arrest someone?

gabicon:
We can't afford to patronise IVM simply because it's naija assembled ivm needs to do aggressive marketing. drive from ojota to VI how many adverts or sales point of ivm do you see? How many of kia or Nissan, or Toyota do you see? People buy what they see that's why companies run adverts on TV n bill boards. As we speak I don't know a location to purchase an ivm vehicle but I know of kia Peugeot Nissan n ford Benz. If ivm doesn't give the public a taste of what they have to offer no one will take them serious.

IVM is still a very young vehicle company, they likely many not have the finance to go into "aggressive advertisement". They need govt support to achieve whatever you expect them to do, If you look closely All the the organisations I mentioned are state/fed owned. I used the clause "should include similar". Which means the state govt can as well include some of IVM products into scheme, which is it'self an advertisement and also patronage.

sapiosexual1:
Nah, there is also a Lagos mega city light rail project for which Lagos took Chinese loans. Or perhaps it's the same project we're talking about, maybe.

I was talking about the railway that is suppose to link Nigeria with other west African countries, the one that runs mile 2 towards seme border. If there is another then congrates to Lagos state govt.

sapiosexual1:
That was the initial idea of BRT and I don't see anything different between these buses and BRT.
For the mega city status which Lagos craves, we expect that Ambo would go on to complete the rail project fashola began & expand the power generation and supply of the state

I thought that the railway project was Fg.

They should include similar IVM product into this too. ITC did it,ebotrans did, abia line is doing it, Nigeria army did it and I believe lagos transport will do.

Now we are losing it all to ego battle. Some of these people's demand are as simple as ABC, at least meet like half of them especially the one on national conference, payment of their entitlements (amnesty), release of kalu, clean up of their lands, and tendering of some form of entreat statement (not necessaryly an apology).
Also a nation wide programmes/campaigne on unity and respect to all should be evoked. All disrespectful comments about any group on every media plat form shouldn't be tolerated(things like "one basket", "5% and 97%" "born rule"...).

obailala:
Oh... I didn't know Dasuki has denied ever taking or sharing any money. I suppose even the earliest statements about getting approval from Jonathan before disbursing any funds were also made up by EFCC?

let's not deviate from the double standard exhibited by Buhari, you and your ilk on the issue of abacha and his numerous loots. Dasuki has never ever accepted any of the allegations against him. All we have been reading has never been from dasuki. Efcc always feed the press not dasuki.

obailala:
But even Dasuki did not deny that he took and shared money, so what's wrong if Buhari says Dasuki took and shared money?

The case against Dasuki is not whether he took and shared money (that fact has since been established), the case against him in court is to ascertain if he did that collection & sharing within the ambits of the law or not. Just point out where PMB accused a particular person (e.g. Diezani of being a thief?

summary: What lead to these arguement is OrlandoOwoh claiming buhari meant that Abacha is not a thief unless proven otherwise by the law court, and you echoed his thought but this time denying buhari never called or accused anyone. I brought up dasuki case and showed you where he accused dasuki even without court finding him guilty yet.
Now you accuse dasuki of accepting these allegation even when we have not heard from dasuki since he was detained. All we have been hearing is from Efcc not dasuki. His lawyer has come out to deny all of the allegations, or didn't you follow that?

obailala:
No doubts, myself, yourself and many others call them thieves. Similarly, I'm sure buhari calls them thieves in his heart, but all I ask is for you to leave the long melancholic epistle and point out where Buhari has explicitly mentioned the name of Madam Madueke or anybody and called them a thief?... I am waiting for you to prove me wrong.

In summary, that you think someone has said something, it does not mean he has actually said it.

During buhari's first president media chat, when he was asked why they didn't release Dasuki and Nnamdi even after court has granted them bail, he (buhari) openly made clear accusation against dasuki even at that he made himself the jury, the judge and the excutioner. Here are some of his word
"If You see the atrocities these people committed against this country, we can't allow them to jump bail "
He said that dasuki and his team would collect and share money recklessly...
"they would just say to central bank give so and so, 40 billion... " I can go on and on. So I see no reason why you should defend the undefendable. Pls if you are close to this man tell him to cast away some of his numerous sycophants, they are doing him more harm than good.

obailala:
PMB always states that people stole money massively, point out one example of where he named someone as being guilty without trial or forever hold your peace.

This is what happens when emotions block reasoning; you begin to assume things and then conclude your assumptions are real. Once again, since you think buhati is an idiot who judges before trial, give us one, just one example of where buhari explicitly named a person as guilty.

@ OrlandoOwoh you guys are Abusive just for it's sake. Helo friends Going by your logic buhari administration has no reason detaining dasuki neither do Fg have any right calling mmadueke a thief what so ever. Why do you guys always form intellect where you are nothing near it?

Generalyemi:
if your man is not from anambra,u are single

hahaha oji ọnụ.

NDRepublic:
For the third time, I refer again to your intellect. My reference to IPOB does not make the argument about IPOB. Even a smart 10 year old can understand that.

Stop trying to deviate from the argument which is whether Tony Elumelu and inferably whether Anioma people are IGBO.

I have educated you with historical facts about his ethnicity and until you can dispute them intelligently rather than asking me to read unofficial biographies that are silent about his ethnicity , I will maintain my conclusion on your intellect and may not waste my time further ( Please I need the exercise. If it is mediocre like I have seen so far, then do not expect a response)

so much from Mr intellect, hahaha just watch how you run from post to post, with no tangible thing said. Like I said this was never ever about,
i. IPOB
ii. Biafra
iii. Anioma
but about tony elumelu been Igbo. This was never about telling Anioma stories, never did I asked you to tell me stories about Anioma but tony elumelu. May I remind you, "I said bring any proof whether official or unofficial that says tony onyekachi elumelu is not Igbo." If you can't, just go take some days off, chat with your friends, go parting and forget about everything Ipob or biafra.

NDRepublic:
I again, refer to your lack of intellect which is similar to that of other IPOB youth. You lot are fond of making noise without backing your frivolous claims with historical evidence.

Pls close your eyes, take a very deep breath. Repeat it 3 times and read. This is never about IPOB, I am not an ipob neither was I talking about IPOB. Just do what i told you read the biography of the people I wrote as igbo, or you can link me to where the people I mentioned said they are not Igbo. Stop beating around the bush Mr intellect.

Same reason your Biafra illusion remains an Illusion.

Our arguement is never about Biafra, We were talking about Igbo not biafra. You can access any biafr.an forum or what ever to discuss that thank you.

Anioma people have ancestry to the Ezechime descendants. Ezechime is correctly known in Igodomingodo (Benin) as Ovbi Ikhime, a Benin migrant that left Iduu (Benin) Kingdom after he committed an offence punishable by death. He founded many other communities in Anioma some of which are Asaba,Okpanam,Ibusa, Issele-Uku, Issele-Mkpitime, Issele-Azagba, Onicha-Ugbo, Onicha-Uku, Onicha-Olona and many more.

The geographical position of Anioma land exposed it to the social influence of Eastern Igbo hence there are similarity in names and Language. Note that Anioma people of Ika bear both Bini and Igbo names. Their language has both Benin and Igbo words.

When the Republic of Biafra was declared as a secessionist State from Nigeria by Ojukwu, Anioma was not included in the maps of Biafra, instead the declaration only claimed Onitsha, a part of Anioma community now lost to the South East.

In the 2007 election, Prof. Pat Utomi {from Ibusa}, whose wife is from the East, went to OHANAEZE to solicit for support for his presidential ambition. Chief Orji Uzor Kalu also went to solicit for his too.OHANAEZE rejected Pat Utomi even though he thought he was part of Ohaneze. Infact One of them, according to some daily Nigerian newspapers’ reports, hankered abject adroitly: “Is he really a proper Igbo man? Look at him; he cannot even speak Igbo properly.” Others even insinuated that his name did not sound Igbo”.

As usual talking just for talking sake. Pls we are not here to play devil's advocate Mr intelligent. Slow down and bring your arguement logically and in a systematic step.

Please argue with facts and stop claiming what is not yours. As to the case of Utomi, when the odds are in your favour, you come up with excuses as to why the Anioma man is not Igbo but when it may be against you, you claim Anioma, Ikwerre etc as Igbo

"Bring your fact..." is that what you said? Oh what are you doing. Anyway like I said Those people I quoted are Igbo, which is the bone of contention here, unless you can prove otherwise. If you want to argue other things pertaining to Igbo bring it on in an organised and systematic way.

Advise: If you are arguing with someone don't think or place yourself as more intelligent, it likely portray you as naive or technically stupid. Remember others are reading. THANK ME LATER.

Drop your post, i might likely reply it very late but will reply you mr Intelligent.

hansad:
I did the National Youth Service in Port Harcourt a few years ago.

Nearly every Ikwerre lady was going for Igbos.
None Igbo coppers were left with little or nothing.

That sort of left me confused each time I encountered the story about Ikwerre is not Igbo.

Never take anything you see here on nairaland serious, if you really want to know where most of ikwere citizens stand, then you really need to join them in their forum especially facebook. Most people here are likely not anywhere close to Ikwere neither have they seen an ikwere man in real life.

NDRepublic:
A king who needs to say I am king is no king. Hope you are a little intelligent enough to understand what this means.

If he is Igbo you will not fight tooth and nail to call him your brother.

I would have loved to educate you about the loyalty of Anioma people during the last Igbo misadventure of a civil war but you do not deserve the effort.

Here we go again with self acclaimed intellect. Huhuhu, a very intelligent person as you ascribe yourself should have gone reading all the biography or auto biography of the person in quote, possibly a similar person to disprove what I said. The last time I checked not even a single Igbo organisation or group is complaining of who is Igbo or not, except people like you who are neither Igbo nor the said Igboid who walk about talking what they know little or nothing about. Ndi be anyi si na ihe ojo gba afo oghoo omenaala, that is why people even find time to engage you intellects

gidgiddy:
I have heard so many versions of where and who the Ikweres are:

"Ikwere are from Bini!"

"Ikwere are from Nkwere!"

"Ikwere are from Japan"

My friend from Enugu state is currently dating an Ikwere girl from Emohua. What they quarell about is this issue of being Igbo or not. Yet when they shout at each other, he uses his 'Nkanu' dialect while she uses Ikwere yet both can understand each other. Chibuike Amaechi, Duncan Okechukwu (Duncan Mighty), Elechi Amadi, Tonto Dike are all well known Ikwere indigenes but had not been popular, any Hausa or Yoruba who meets them will take them to be Igbo due to their last names which is as Igbo as it gets. Mind you, all of them speak flawless Igbo. Not long ago, a certain Emeka Eze was apprehended for Drug pushing, they shouted "Igbos have come again" until it came out that the man was Ikwere. So who is Igbo and who is Ikwere? The apex Ikwere organisation is the "Ogbakor Ikwere" which every Igbo knows means "gathering of Ikweres". The king of the Ikweres is the "Eze Ikwere" which everone knows means 'king of the Ikweres'. It will be a tough sell to the Ikwerre Man who speaks a dialect of Igbo as his ancestral language and has an Igbo last name to get up say 'I am distinct from Igbos'. Not even their neigbours in Rivers, the Ijaws and Ogonis, take them as anything but Igbo.

To me I support any Ikwere man that says he is not Igbo to his claims. Also I support those that claim they are igbo. But the problem here is Non of them should claim the other is wrong.

NDRepublic:
You call a poorly written article educative then I am not surprised that the education sector in Nigeria is rotten.

The argument was initiated by you Ipob dreamers claiming Elumelu portrays himself as Igbo and I still insist that you prove it rather you are digressing by mentioning irrelevant people into the discussion.

Who cares if Ade-Ojo is from Bakassi? At least your Ewedu republic brothers are not fighting tooth and nail to let the world know he is one of them.

I was the one that brought it up, but clearly you are the one who tends to be excessively ignorant. Like i said Tony onyekachi Elumelu is an Igboman. During the enugu economic summit, in his speech He kept using "We igbo". So he does not need to start singing am Igbo man to satisfy your ego. Note:The person I quoted was Beremx not a juvenile.

NDRepublic:
You call a poorly written article educative then I am not surprised that the education sector in Nigeria is rotten.

The argument was initiated by you Ipob dreamers claiming Elumelu portrays himself as Igbo and I still insist that you prove it rather you are digressing by mentioning irrelevant people into the discussion.

Who cares if Ade-Ojo is from Bakassi? At least your Ewedu republic brothers are not fighting tooth and nail to let the world know he is one of them.

I was the one that brought it up, but clearly you are the one who tends to be excessively ignorant. Like i said Tony onyekachi Elumelu is an Igboman. During the enugu economic summit, in his speech He kept using "We igbo". So he does not need to start singing am Igbo man to satisfy your ego. Note:The person I quoted was Beremx.

simplycarro:
To survive in Nigeria now, Iboes need Ijaws like a human need oxygen.
When Iboes in their cunny way says OLD EAST, what they are actually saying is Iboes plus Ijaws.

I have come to find out that the Biafra propagated in recent times is not even by the Igbo, but by people who feel too insecure to hear the word Igbo. The real Igbo (elites,elders,youths) don't necessarily look forward for a biafra detached from Nigeria, but an inclusive biafra. The Igbo is to big to start including itself with any tribe but only crave to make sure it's unity is not tampered with with ugly propaganda.
Ijaw is a very nice tribe, they have been living with the Igbos in mutually respect for years now hence Ijaw has nothing to do with the Igbo ethnic Group except been neighbour and having similar political interest with to the Igbo. The Biafra you talk about shows you jst but an ignorant who think all you see on Nairaland is what The real Igbo speak about. The major aim now is to create a more united and stronger Igbo speaking nationality. For your info. The biafra Igbo cry for is an inclusive state where every potential of the region has to be efficiently utilized, where people life and property can't always be at risk or targetted because of a mere mention of the word Igbo.

The day you talk about Niger delta without including Igbo in it, I will attack any Igbo who puts his mouth in it.

Beremx:
My dear, are you talking on behalf of Ikwerre people? are you sure they agree with you?
Well, i am yet to see any Ikwerre man or woman who says he's Igbo. Same as Anioma.

Honestly, this kind of topic breaks my heart.

But ibe kachikwu, tony elumelu and many others keep singing that they are Igbo.

Izen:
I'm pretty sure I've traveled Nigeria than you. Infrastructure is not just buildings hun. If there's any part of Nigeria I've lived that actually has a working public water system, it is Ib. Those areas you think have brown roofs actually have the best roads and highest supply of power, but you wouldn't know that would you? Before I left abj, it only had 2 cinemas and I don't think that has changed much now, ib's got at least 3 besides those theaters for stage drama. That's just an example, not very strong sef. May I ask when you lived in Ib? I didn't use to like Ib myself until ajimobi came into power. Things have really changed here within the last 5 years.

. I have no beef against Ibadan neither do I believe I'm more travelled than you , but ranking Ibadan anywhere close to 10 infrastructurally developed city is an insult to Nigeria. When it comes to city road network ibadan has a very poor mark in that when you compared to most cities including Abuja you said you lived in. Access to electricity? There you made some gleering wrong assumption again, every city in Nigeria has some degree of unstable electricity power supply, but when it comes to which has better supply, Ibadan is no were close to the Abuja, lagos, PH or enugu. Water supply? Did you say ibadan has an excellent what supply(at least by Nigerian standard)? Ibadan is just a regular nigerian city when it comes to Night and social life. Better cities like the ones i mention earlier has far better night life. Like i said Ibadan is not and shouldn't yet be among the top 10 infrastructurally develop city in Nigeria. Unless you talking of the very cheap housing and stuffs like that.

Abagworo:
Most Nigerian cities were planned and most have been distorted. Lagos is the biggest victim followed by Port Harcourt.

Aba is following them very very closely

Izen:
Lie to myself ke? Abeg joor. I've lived in Abuja, schooled in Lagos but I will still pick Ibadan over anywhere else. Live with it. And no, I'm not from Ibadan. I come from the north.

huhuhu. Clearly you are from the north... Like I said leave your ibadan and travel a bit. I wanted to discuss infrastructural developed cities and i thought you will be talking about Abuja, some part of lagos, parts of port harcourt or parts of enugu or kaduna but when you brought Ibadan of all places, i clearly know there was no discussion unless am ready to trade insults.

mazeltov:
thank you for making me to spill a whole bottle of Pepsi on my keyboard due to an uncontrollable laughter . I never knew that a comedian like you on nairaland would make my day with your post

you can spill you guts all I care, one thing is for sure here, you sit in your the unclean environment where you see a woman frying akara with her kid on dust bin, at same time trying to make analysis. I thought I was talking to someone but hell no just an ignorant fellow who things Ibadan can make the first ten livable and infrastructural city in Nigeria. Anyway anything that rocks your boat. I recommend you travel out of Ibadan or possibly your region(if you ever gone out of ibadan).

mazeltov:
I wouldn't mind if you had compared Ibadan with Entire Abia state,

What do You mean by that? Where do you know in Abia?

Izen:
No mind them my fellow Ib person o jare. They are a bunch of ignoramus.

Actually ibadan shouldn't be a City to be too proud of. I would not like to compare with any city as I was exceedly disappointed my first month in Ibadan. Ibadan has considerable large population with little to no govt presence. Unless you want to lie to yourself

Justrefined:
Enugu should be out of that list...remove enugu. I did my NYSC in Enugu, finished last year and i have the opportunity to tour round almost every where in the state, little or no infrastructure is found. Even the so called enugu city has nothing but i dont know. just remove enugu.

I took an interest in your post, since you said you did NYSC there, I believe you should be exposed. Most of the comments i read here clearly show that alot of people here don't travel or are clearly mischievous. I am only refering to enugu metropolis, why did you say it lags behind if you compare them with other cities you have visited. Like the op said, infrastructurally what are your reasons for the exclusion of enugu from the list. You can compare to any city you have visited. Possibly if I have not been to that city i will tell. But preferably i will want to compare it with
1. Lagos
2. Ph

micolaj:
dialogue with criminals? Do you know what they are fighting?Are they avenging or fighting for resources control? Becos these are two different things.These guys are just operating within the realm of emotion.

Every agitation in the world involves emotions. It always arises when there is intimidation, harassment and neglect of some members of the state. It breeds tension, unpatriotic citizens and hatred. To fight it you have to dialog, understand the causes of such dissatisfactions and work towards eliminating those factors.