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DarkRebel69:
No question about him showing up for his team ---- but so did Leo! Maybe even more from Leo. The last El Clasico is testament to this. Pundits have also acclaimed this to be one of Messi's best years in his sporting career, in terms of performance. The deal-breaker is while Real dialed their game up by a few notches to Ronaldo's benefits; Barça, on the other hand, failed Messi! That we were under the management of a coach with room temperature I.Q. did not help matters.

Losing foolishly to Juventus, making a balls-up of league matches we should have easily won—these coupled with one or two other snafu sapped the shine out of Messi's input.

Still, the Balon D'or is reserved for the best performer of the year, not to who has won UCL and/or the local league based on collective team effort. If the voters would steer clear of biases and objectively compare and contrast the individual performances of the two chaps, the award should end up, rightfully and deservingly, in Messi's trophy cabinet.

Messi decided the Classico albeit playing as DM as many have said. He scored many match winning goals in the league, scored 10 goals in the UCL group stage while dropping to help the midfield but couldn't produce the same master class when it mattered most together with his partners in crime.

Don't get me wrong, I am not blaming the players for their failure to turn up against Juve(it happens to anyone), what irks me is how cules chose to heap all the blames on Lucho as if the players don't have their own fare share of the blame. Just imagine that Iniesta, Suarez, alba miss....Messi shooting wide, over the bar, Neymar playing anyhow.... and compare to Madrid's efficiency in front of goal. that's what made the difference not really how the team was set up to service CR7. He got his chances and took them with precision.

As per the emboldened, you and I know that the football world rewards results over individual performance. CR7 winning 10 WPOTY does not make him a better player than Messi, but surely deserves this year's own. We were happy when Madrid was drawn against Bayern thinking that was the end, CR7 made the difference. We were elated about the showdown against Atletico, the same man made the difference. We then thought Juve would be a different story as the hype about their defence was deafening, the same man stole the limelight by utilising his chances well, what our players, including Leo failed to do. That alone rates him above Leo this past season and will be deservedly handed his 5th come January.

Debroslink:
Did you see Casemiro coming on to score? Didn't you see Modric run into the box to supply assist? That's an oiled machine team. When strikers are misfiring, the midfield takes it up.

Lucho has made us believe that all our goals must come from MSN. Our team became very predictable. Even when Suarez and Neymar were out cold, the coach had no balls to remove them. UCL final match, Zidane removed Benzema and brought on Asensio. The young chap scored.

Why did he sell Munir and Sandro? Why didn't he have faith on Alcacer and Vidal? What is Roberto doing at RB?

If Lucho had encouraged these players with more playing time, we would have squad depth. There would be competitions for 1st 11. Suarez and Neymar would have played better and more deadly in attack because they know their spot is not guaranteed.

Enrique is very annoying

I started having issue with Lucho the day he let go of Samper.
If we would be honest here, many of us were happy at the start of the season with the additions added due to their tender ages and assumed quality. We never could have envisaged things would turn out this way. I have already learnt my lessons, never to be excited about a signing until the result is gotten.

Lucho has been well criticised for the ways he set up the team this past season. I personally can't forgive him for how he lost us the league due to his nonchalant attitude towards weaker teams. Thank God he's gone.

Nevertheless, the players too can not be absolved of their share of the blame. Lucho was not responsible for Suarez below par performance throughout the season, neither was he responsible for Neymar's hot and cold form.
We saw how CR7 converted the few chances provided him against Juve, if our players had done same, it would have been a different ball game. The little details is what made the difference.
I have already settled with the reality that the players too let us down at the biggest moments despite the coach's ineptitude.

jonsnow92:
Forget that Shit..The guy no get point..Zidane had a simple task..Build your team around Ronaldo and he has done it perfectly well..To perfection.Ronaldo doesn't need to come back to DM role to decide games..He just waits like a predator stalking a prey and boom he scores...Kudos!
Enrique couldn't do the same to Messi..And Messi been Messi would have to come back to dictate play...
So he no get point jare

You should have at least given me kudos for getting my tipping/prediction which you claimed was wrong right.

Messi did not only go back to DM role as you claimed against Juve, he did it all season. We won some big matches such as madrid, Atletico, Psg e.t.c with Messi playing same role. The difference was that the players took their chances in those games won and deservedly got their applause.
Messi playing as a DM was not the reason he kept blowing the chances he had against Juve, what he would score on a good day. Neither was Messi playing as a DM was the reason Suarez was firing blanc or Neymar wasting goal chances.

You guys just don't want to agree the players also contributed to our abysmal performance and keep heaping all the blames on Lucho.

Debroslink:
Kross and Modric are like Xavi and Iniesta to Ronaldo. Ronaldo is enjoying a well oiled machine team.

Yes he deserves the Balon d or, but imagine a Messi in this Madrid team. A Messi in this Madrid team will repeat 91 goals per year all over again.

I am not taking anything away from Leo, he's still the G.O.A.T. Not forgetting that he eeven posted more assists even when he had the duo of Iniesta and Xavi.
My point exactly is this: our players including Messi failed to convert the few chances presented to them when it mattered most and should as such also be part of the blame rather than heaping all on Lucho. Even against same Juve, CR7 didn't get as much scoring chances as Messi in the return leg. Never to forget how Suarez was so dormant and Neymar wasteful. That's exactly what makes the real difference.

EmmGee:
May God give you the woman of your dreams.

Oga bykebyke.
Sorry.
Goodn12ht

Lol..... I have already got one

bykebyke:
How many chances did we even create vs Juve?

It's not about the number of chances created, it's all about how well you convert the few ones presented.

bykebyke:
Shut up Shut up Just Shut the fück up and stop spewing gobshit.



Isco,Modric,Kroos...These are the midfielders Cristiano gets to play with that create chances for him to score.


Messi had to drop as deep as Busquets this season because Luis Enrique did not know how to set up a basic midfield.


SHUT UP.

At least he scores when provided the chances!
Now, ask yourself why Neymar, suarez and even Messi couldn't score against same Juve when they were provided the chances? CR7's fault?

bykebyke:
Messi failed to do what when it mattered most.?


Nigga are you maddddddd?

Only Messi has single handedly dismantled this Madrid team.

Blame Luis Enrique for our problems not the person who did his best to keep us afloat you absolute and utter Spastic.

Nope, I am not mad!
If Messi was just as decisive as CR7 was tonight against same Juve, we wouldn't be here congratulating Madrid.
You are not a Messi fan more than I am, but that will not stop me form accepting the reality. I have learnt to always call a spade a spade and not just a working tool.

I actually don't blame you because all you know is blaming Enrique even when Suarez,Messi,Neymar, Alba, Iniesta all decided to blow the nice chances they had against Juve, what we saw Madrid players do with ease tonight.

DarkRebel69:
TapNaldo could win the UCL all he wants, it still doesn't change the fact that he was out-performed this season. Out-performed by the diminutive Argentine!
If he wins the Balon D'or, he wins only because Real Madrid as a unit was spectacular this season, and not because he played better than Leo.

Recency effect would also work in his favour as we tend to remember and be more influenced by the first and last ithings/items on a list or series of events. And since the UCL is the last major tournament of the season, tonight's win will be more remembered and ultimately result in more biased judgements.

Congrats to Real anyway. They deserved it. That stout demon called Modric is something else.

Take it or leave it bro, CR7 deserves the WPOTY over Messi. He showed up to help his team when it mattered most. I'll rate him over Messi this season.

Congrats Madrid! Congrats Madrid fans!! Congrats Zizou!!!


Zizou is the 1st coach to defend the UCL back to back. All I am waiting for is for the EPL boys to start calling him average/fraud. Opps! He's not a Barca coach.

Eruditor:
I agree. Jeez. I am so sad. They won it back to back. He peeped Messi to the UCL top scorer whilst winning it and they won the league.

Just handover the WPOTY to him already. He's done everything to deserve it. Messi failed to do it when it mattered most.

Eruditor:
I blame Enrique more. We could not score a goal against this Juve team.

Don't forget to also blame the players who couldn't make use of the chances they had. Everyone has got his fare share of the blame.

sebod:
Does it really matter?
I don't think a solid defence and a better keeper was enough reason to blow up chances.
Let's see how the defence/keeper fare against Madrid.

Foladj, can you remember this?

sebod:
Eyoniggar baba!
I don't see Juve stopping Madrid honestly. As compact as Juve were against us, we still got some very decent scoring chances only to be blown away by our players who chose to be profligate in front of goal in both legs. Madrid in the other hand have a way of utilising their slim chances coupled with the fact that they are often backed up with luck and poor ref decisions.

Madrid also have a very strong bench who can win them matches on a good day, another reason I feel they might also win the league. I am still hunted by the fact that we messed up our chances of at least winning the league.

All in all, I hope I laugh till me teeth almost drop off come the season end as you have opined.

As per CR7, I think he should be rather applauded for always positioning himself strategically and his ability to convert the chances when presented at him. ATM/Simeone should be blamed for their shambolic display last night rather than the ref.

Eyoniggar baba! Can you remember this?

jonsnow92:
You are not only wrong..You also tipped the wrong team..

Did I tip the wrong team? Are my still wrong? I am a realist bro!

sebod:
Madrid[b] winning the UCL back to back would not be a bad idea really.[/b] They have done their homework pretty well. I am always awed about their sound and healthy depth. Their bench is as almost good as their starting 11.
Juve winning it also would be well deserved as they have done really well to get to the final. I hope Dani and his cohorts bring out the beast in them to stop a Marcelo led attack

May the better team win!

Congratulation to Madrid for a well deserved back to back UCL. #laligarocks

jonsnow92:
You are not only wrong..You also tipped the wrong team..

Did you see the Madrid goal? All thanks to Mandzukic

jonsnow92:
You are not only wrong..You also tipped the wrong team..

I am sincerely wishing I am wrong sir.

Madrid winning the UCL back to back would not be a bad idea really. They have done their homework pretty well. I am always awed about their sound and healthy depth. Their bench is as almost good as their starting 11.
Juve winning it also would be well deserved as they have done really well to get to the final. I hope Dani and his cohorts bring out the beast in them to stop a Marcelo led attack

May the better team win!

I'll tip Madrid for the trophy considering how far they have come. I have been observing for a while now that any defence that proved difficult for us have always somehow been easily penetrated by Madrid.
I just hope I am wrong this time.

Welcome Valverde!

You played under Johan Cruyff, we hope you'll help us regain our identity that has brought us so much joy and success.

We actually didn't end the season trophyless.

Goodbye Lucho, thank you for all the good, the bad and the ugly we got served under your watch. Good luck to you in your future endeavour.

Chelseafan1:
It's not very common with the Epl like it is with Laliga, go check the records, I think Chelsea broke or set a new record with ds 93 points, im not so sure. **modifed** Chelsea have won with 95 points in 2004/2005....its been long.

Pep was disappointing, Mou was, Spurs were Spurs.



Chelsea actually set a new record with the most number of wins in a season.. .. which is 30 wins outta 38

It doesn't always happen like this. You shouldn't judge with this

It doesn't always happen, but it happened already.
My point? If what happened had actually happened in La liga, would you be singing the same song? Your guess is as good as mine I am sure you got the drift!

Chelseafan1:
He never had it easy tho and u sef know.

He most likely wouldn't break a sweat to win the Laliga

How come Chelsea finished the league with 93 points and 7 points ahead of the second placed team while Madrid(who supposedly didn't break a sweat) won the league with same 93 points and just 3 points ahead of the second placed team?

Chelseafan1:
You have a point but then again, if we are being truthful to oursleves, we would agree that it's very easy for any coach to win trophies with than it is with any Epl team.

Barca has a rich history and always try to sign the best players from other leagues and club, same for Madrid too.

That's the point here sir. The emboldened would have been the words used on Conte as nobody would have praised him for the good job done.

Chelseafan1:
Lol, dt one na joke na.....thing is, it's always easy for any coach to succeed at Barca than say Chelsea, because of the quality of players in the team and of course Messi. But that doesn't still mean, credit shouldn't be given to the Coaches.

What has changed about the sextuple - winning Pep who couldn't win ordinary spoon with those kinda city players, is it that he has lost his coaching skills or he is now clueless.?

I am sure you would get the point I am trying to make.

The emboldened says it all. But often times, rather than giving credit, you guys tend to tow the other lane. Need I remind you that a certain Tata never won anything in Barca albeit having same Messi and co at his disposal? That's to tell you that it's not always as easy as you guys always want us to believe.

As per the sextuple winning coach, I don't need to tell you that he still remains the only coach to have done it in the history of football. If it's that easy as you guys always claim, every coach that coaches Barca should be boasting of such a feat every season.

Chelseafan1:
On a more serious note now Sebod, earlier Conte was losing that myself and some other fans wanted him out sef....we were swearing for him seriously until he say down, tweaked our formation to 3-4-3, that was what won us the league...


You have to give him props for that.

I have never discredited him for the good job done.
My point is this: if he had done all the tweaking of formation, and won the league for Barca, you guys would have made us believe he had it easy because of Messi and co, no competition in La Liga bla bla bla and not because he's good at tweaking formation. I could as well quote your post on Bayern thread claiming anybody would win with Messi

Chelseafan1:
[b]We were left dumbfounded he won it in his first attempt [/b]with players Pep and Mourinho think are useless.

The emboldened means he's a great coach. Wouldn't you have termed him fraud had he done that in Barca? Wouldn't you have also believed he's able to win it in Spain because anybody can win it in Barca and not because he's good?

Chelseafan1
You should know bro. Conte came to Chelsea and won the league in his first attempt in a supposedly tough league which makes him at least a very good coach. The question is, if he had won the league for Barca in his first attempt, wouldn't you guys have termed him a fraud as anybody could coach Barca and still win?

Chelseafan1:
Don't be surprised Moyes would come and win the treble or sextuple for them.

Congrats on your league victory bro. However, I have a simple question for you.
If Conte had come to Barca instead of Chelsea and wins the league in his first season as he did with Chelsea, would you have termed him a great/good coach?

SeekinAttention:
I thought they were looking for at the Chelshit thread earlier today

Just saw the mentions by those crazy dudes this night
Even Kesh, a staunch Shekpite at that time had given the league to city only for them to mess things up. Wetin man go do?

Congrats to Madrid!