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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 7:23pm On Nov 28, 2016
ddippset:
same way the referee denied barca all 3 points just last week against malaga after ruling out pique's legitimate goal for offside. that was just 7 days ago, how come you didn't remember? or maybe you did, just that in the case of barca you're wired to always used the clause 'without the help of referees'
Some posts are best ignored.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 7:05pm On Nov 28, 2016
foladara777:
If I was Enrique, I will use Messi as an attacking midfielder to play the iniesta role until either iniesta comes back or we get a creative midfielder in January.. Maybe fabregas... He is out of favor at Chelsea and he could be a short term fix... But for the moment, identify d best midfielder and stick with them, so that they develop chemistry
Which Fabrigas?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 9:17pm On Nov 27, 2016
TotalBarca: Never thought we'd live to see the day when Barcelona is getting outplayed out possessed out-everything. Good news? 0-0
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 5:54pm On Nov 27, 2016
rozayx5:
the only relief is messi in the line up

and trust me if suarez does not come with his scoring boots today and neymar does not grow up and stop joking... you can as well handover the league to madrid undecided undecided undecided
Messi also has not feared any better against them on their turf. let's just hope for miracle so that the jinx can be destroyed once and for all.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 5:27pm On Nov 27, 2016
I am drawing motivation from the fact that, if we lose, we are going 7points down. So, I am trusting the guys to do whatever they can to avoid defeat.
But, deep down within me, fear dey catch me.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 10:30pm On Nov 26, 2016
BarcaBlood:
Chelsea sold Mata to man u

Arsenal sold clichy, adebayor, nasri, sagna and kolo toure to man city

Man city sold sturridge to chelsea, den chelsea sold him to liverpool

Liverpool sold Torres to chelsea
You dey Chelseafan1?
If RVP could dump Arsenal for United just to win the league, shey na Barca/Madrid no go fit snatch am?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 8:40pm On Nov 26, 2016
Chelseafan1:
I have addressed the bolded on this same thread few days ago, refer to the quote below pls.
United is the biggest club in England with rich history, a United fan even once claimed the club is richer than Barca on this thread. Be as it may, United can't still withstand Barca/Madrid when they go head on in signing a player. Not because they can't afford whoever they want, but because it's every players dream to wear the jerseys of these two clubs. That's why they can easily prize away United's best player while the same can't be said in reverse. You can't tell me Barca are richer than City or PSG/Chelsea. What makes the difference is that every City, PSG, Chelsea's player would jump at the offer to play for these two clubs even with their money.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 8:33pm On Nov 26, 2016
mcdreeezy:
I wonder what is so difficult to understand here. I can see you're trying so hard to be polite with him because the way the argument is going, I'm already feeling irritated by his argument cuz it's obvious he's being sentimental.


Personally, I'm not even counting Liverpool cuz I have this feeling that they're doing initial gragra just like Arsenal. I'm tipping City and Chelsea for the title but it's okay if you add Liverpool. It's safe to say it's a three-horse race in both la liga and EPL, simple. I don't understand all these epistle I'm seeing here.
I just tire ehn. When United dominated the league during Fergie's era, nobody labelled the league a one horse race.
We keep hearing/reading how over six teams are regular contenders, but they can name them for us to check them out.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sebod(m): 8:30pm On Nov 26, 2016
Chelseafan1:
Thank God u are seeing what I was telling you guys on your thread, the league is so unpredictable, who would have thought Spurs that played and got beaten this Tuesday (while Chelsea were resting) will score first at the bridge and still looking this strong.

Cc Barackodam, sebod, ddippset et al
You said?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 8:07pm On Nov 26, 2016
TRendlona:
Saw this in Bayern thread undecided
There are some posts one shouldn't pay attention to bro.
Most of them still don't realise that most English players thrive on hype.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 2:05pm On Nov 26, 2016
Chelseafan1:
What you need to understand is that, Barca and Madrid are the two best teams with quality players (world stars) that no other team comes close, especially in the LaLiga, look at the number of games Barca has lost this season and they are still sitting second comfortably, Sevilla and these other teams don't have the quality and strength of these two powerhouse, they can only cause upsets once in a while and That's all, Barca or Madrid and at times, Atletico will definitely still win the league.
Barca has a very rich squad Plus MSN, Madrid has a very rich squad Plus BBC, these other teams just have few quality players.

Let's talk about the EPL, the star players aren't concentrated in just City and Chelsea, there was a time when Chelsea players were regarded as average players, Hazard is our best player, better than any of our wingers but most of us would even argue Neymar is way better than him, thats just Neymar o, we haven't included Messi, Suarez, Pique, Iniesta, Mascherano, Busquets etc

Man Utd and City spent almost the same amount this last transfer window, yet city is doing well, MAN UTD is failing, do Sevilla, Sociedad, Atm, Valencia have the same spending power of Barca and Madrid?

All these EPL top teams have almost equal spending power, talk about Spurs, Pool, Arsenal, City, MAN UTD, Chelsea, these guys have star players scattered all over hence the competitive nature of the league, none of them is a stand out performer just like Barca/Madrid is to the LaLiga, Bayern is to the BLiga or Juventus is the Serie A abi u don forget the number of parties wey hold for our thread last season, see parties wey dey hold for Man Utd thread now, see parties for Arsenal thread. cheesy cheesy

I dunno if you understand me well enough, but trust me, there will always be upsets once in a while, eg Alaves beating Barca, Liezpig beating Bayern but its not always easy for Chelsea/City winning the league....the struggle is always real.
You will find Spurs flogging City anyhow, Chelsea will disgrace the same Spurs but city will seriously deal with Chelsea, the same Arsenal that will flog Man city home and away will become toothless against a struggling Man utd/Chelsea, Chelsea will defeat Man Utd for example by a lone goal, but the same Everton that gets pummeled by Man Utd will get 3 unreplied goals against Chelsea, these are just examples of the crazy things that happen in the league, that's why we celebrate winning games and the league like we won the UCL and WC together cheesy cheesy


If you happen to be a punter, the odds these bookmakers give Barca, Madrid, Bayern is always very low just because these teams have a high probabilty of winning their games and they do it comfortably except for the once-in-a-while upsets.

I wont say there are 6 title contenders in the EPL but Barca/Madrid are the 'ogas at the top' in laliga, they are way above the others, there is no stand out 'oga at the top in the EPL', its a different ball game here. It was recently Man city became a top team when the Saudi guy took over, maybe when one of these arab guys take over Sevilla or atm and can match the spending power of Barca/Madrid....the story will change.


This is my submission sir.
You have just strengthened the points we have been telling you guys over these years. The two Spanish clubs are superior to other teams not only in the league but across Europe. It's sheer hypocrisy to think these two clubs would not dominate any league in the world knowing fully how they have faired even against the best teams in the leagues across Europe. Kudos should even be given to the smaller teams in la liga for putting up a good fight against them. You people want us to believe the Stokes of this world would stop Barcelona from winning the Epl when they can't even make it to Europe where the heavy weights are tested against one another.
When Man U were dominating the Epl during Fergie's era, winning the league almost every season Until Chelsea and City gained life, I can't remember anybody calling the league a one horse race. Whatever comes from the league is the best and hyped to high heaven. Madrid, Barça, Atletic and Bayern would ensure all the epl teams fight for the fifth spot and below.
BarcaBlood:
How would define a title challenging team in any league?
Is it a team that just makes d top 4 at d end of d season? Or a team that occupies the top 4 position for most weeks, irrespective of d position dey finish @ d end of d season? Or is it a team that can buy expensive players, whether or not dey win d league with dem?
Or would you define them as a team that can do all these (or some) and actually WIN THE LEAGUE @ least once in say maybe 2-4 years?
Cos i honestly dont consider Arsenal (last league win 2003), Everton (last league win ____huh), Tottenham (last league win ____huh), Liverpool (last league win 1990) as title contenders just because they're in fine form at a certain stage of d season, wen we know dat there z a very good chance dey wont win it eventually, and den to make it worse, EPL fans dat considers dem title favourites dont apply d same logic to other teams dat do d same or are in fine forms @ certain stages in other top leagues. That is unfair and hypocritical
BarcaBlood:
How would define a title challenging team in any league?
Is it a team that just makes d top 4 at d end of d season? Or a team that occupies the top 4 position for most weeks, irrespective of d position dey finish @ d end of d season? Or is it a team that can buy expensive players, whether or not dey win d league with dem?
Or would you define them as a team that can do all these (or some) and actually WIN THE LEAGUE @ least once in say maybe 2-4 years?
Cos i honestly dont consider Arsenal (last league win 2003), Everton (last league win ____huh), Tottenham (last league win ____huh), Liverpool (last league win 1990) as title contenders just because they're in fine form at a certain stage of d season, wen we know dat there z a very good chance dey wont win it eventually, and den to make it worse, EPL fans dat considers dem title favourites dont apply d same logic to other teams dat do d same or are in fine forms @ certain stages in other top leagues. That is unfair and hypocritical
BarcaBlood:
How would define a title challenging team in any league?
Is it a team that just makes d top 4 at d end of d season? Or a team that occupies the top 4 position for most weeks, irrespective of d position dey finish @ d end of d season? Or is it a team that can buy expensive players, whether or not dey win d league with dem?
Or would you define them as a team that can do all these (or some) and actually WIN THE LEAGUE @ least once in say maybe 2-4 years?
Cos i honestly dont consider Arsenal (last league win 2003), Everton (last league win ____huh), Tottenham (last league win ____huh), Liverpool (last league win 1990) as title contenders just because they're in fine form at a certain stage of d season, wen we know dat there z a very good chance dey wont win it eventually, and den to make it worse, EPL fans dat considers dem title favourites dont apply d same logic to other teams dat do d same or are in fine forms @ certain stages in other top leagues. That is unfair and hypocritical
This is a very good post.
SportsRe: Chinese Club (shanghai SIPG) Offer Mikel $212,000 (n66m) Per Week by sebod(m): 5:26am On Nov 26, 2016
coded01:
Sebod, Airmark, Dmcdad how far? See money... shocked cool
He should just grab it already. After all, he has finally lost his place in the Chelsea team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 8:49pm On Nov 25, 2016
airmark:
I never told you i used only one criterium to cancel out spurs. Go and check my previous posts and grab it in entirety. Last season they were title contenders. Liverpool has been superb this season and they are strong contenders. They won their matches convincingly this season unlike tottenham. I am not responsible for you misinterpreting my opinion. You should go back to the root of our arguements , tottenham are not contenders, they are pretenders, since their main defender went on injury they have been playing below expectation. Title conteders have depth to some extent in the team. For the past 4 seasons in la liga we have real, barca and atm sharing 1st to 3rd position among themselves while others couldn't lift a finger. Those who stated 6 in epl might be considering this kind of situation in epl among 6 teams that most times dominate the 1st to 6th positions. So you should understand their views.




Using question to answer question. Nice try. cheesy
We are almost on same page here bro. If Liverpool are now title contenders because of their position on the log and current form, it's just okay to label Sevilla too as one of the title contenders. If Spurs are suddenly shunted out because of their form and position, then it's save to say Atletico too are not title contenders at least for this season. Using different yardsticks for the leagues is just out of place.
Going by this your logic for this season alone, we can conclude the epl is between Liverpool, city and Chelsea as it stands now, thereby making it a 3 horse race. Same goes for la liga which is between Madrid, Barça and Sevilla.
As such, it's somewhat out of place to be counting six teams as regular epl challengers. Instead, the teams that sit pretty well on the log should be taken into consideration as the title challengers which might change from time to time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 7:41pm On Nov 25, 2016
coded01:
No make Airmark see this... grin grin
The guy see am comot face grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 7:10pm On Nov 25, 2016
airmark:
Dayo will tell you more about him. He's a batty boy.



How many times have you seen Tottenham in 2nd or 3rd position at the end of the season in this decade apart from last season ? That should tell you more bro .
If we agreed to remove Spurs from the title challengers because they have not been seen in the 2nd position, that means Liverpool too has no place among the chasers because the last time they were seen in the 2nd position after 08/09 was 13/14, and they have been ranking below the same spurs ever since then, so, what's applicable to Spurs is applicable to Pool.
airmark:
Quote where i removed liverpool from the race?
Good profit there.
Now please, kindly avail us the regular six teams that always challenge for the title that make the league head and shoulder above the rest.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 5:25pm On Nov 25, 2016
dmcdad:
And yet they say it's six! Then, what are the teams that make up the 6 then?

E be like say that question na GMAT ooooo.cheesy
Chelseafan1 said it's now a three horse race. Airmark has personally removed Spurs and Liverpool from the list. At least, we are making progress.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 5:14pm On Nov 25, 2016
raumdeuter:
Who was the poster that even claimed that there were 6 teams contending for Premier league every season

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 4:30pm On Nov 25, 2016
raumdeuter:
Let them tell us the 6 teams that compete for the EPL regularly
It's like we are gonna wait till eternity oooo. They have already removed Spurs which means they can't name Arsenal and Pool either. They can't name any bro.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 2:12pm On Nov 25, 2016
ddippset:
but what are the coach and players supposed to do when the officials decide to award an offside goal? in the first final real Madrid has to equalize after time added on. athletico[b] have only been extremely unfortunate against real Madrid.[/b]
They have been unfortunate albeit not putting in their best. If they had approached the game the way they did against us, they would have won any of the finals. What happened to their brutal and animal approach they have always deployed when playing us? They are yeye jor!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 1:22pm On Nov 25, 2016
bykebyke:
It's an Atletico fan doing the suing,not Atletico themselves.
The fan self dey craze grin instead of him taking up his mumu coach and players for failing the fans, he's trying what's not.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 1:08pm On Nov 25, 2016
bykebyke:
So Ramos scored an offside goal in the final?

Interesting how that didn't make waves,Imagine if it was Barca. lipsrsealed
What sort of nonsense is this from atletico? They lost twice to the same team in the finals, I think they should be ashamed of themselves rather than reporting any offside goal. I have stopped taking Simeon serious since their second defeat in the UCL final. He motivates his team to play like animals against Barca only to always succumb easily to Madrid when it matters most. Yeye team?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 11:21am On Nov 25, 2016
Chelseafan1:
Check the difference in points between these 3 EPL teams and that of the LaLiga teams, what can you deduce?

How can you tell me Atletico is still a title contender when Madrid is comfortably sitting at the top and leading them by 9 good points. cheesy cheesy

The ONLY contender I can see there is Barca, so I can authoritatively tell you that, this 2016/2017 LaLiga is between Barca and Madrid.

But for the EPL, the gap is still very close between doz 3 teams.
Hmmmmmm, so it's now about the points garnered so far? So, if Barca lose their next two matches and are 10points behind Madrid, can we then conclude the league is a one horse race league? If Everton make some good run of play and find themselves on the 1st spot on the log while the likes of City, pool and Chelsea drop points, will it be okay to say they are also tittle contenders?

The truth is that, over the past few years, we know the genuine contenders while we know the pretenders. It's always been either Chelsea or City until last season where something unimaginable happened.

If the likes of Arsenal, pool and Spurs can't win the league with their gragra, why should they be counted as title contenders when we can't also count the likes of Sevilla, Bilbao, villareal and co too as title challengers.
The fact is that the Epl is somewhat overrated and the fans too are not helping matters. You can't claim La liga to be 2/3 horse race and label the epl 6/7 horse race while failing to name the six-seven teams that regularly contest for the title. Every league has its own peculiarity.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 10:27am On Nov 25, 2016
airmark:
Dayo will tell you more about him. He's a batty boy.



How many times have you seen Tottenham in 2nd or 3rd position at the end of the season in this decade apart from last season ? That should tell you more bro .
Then, I need to know those teams that make up at least six clubs that always fight for the Epl that makes it more competitive.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 9:32am On Nov 25, 2016
coded01:
No make Airmark see this... grin grin
Lol.... airmark that removed Spurs from the list of six Epl chasers because they sit fifth on the table while still counting Atletico as part of the only three teams that fight for la liga while sitting sixth on the log.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 8:56am On Nov 25, 2016
Chelseafan1:
See as u dey throw am to me like say na u be prosecuting counsel...lol

I was clearly talking about this season by including Pool as a title contender, they have no European commitment and are still much better than Spurs over all....

I for one cannot say who is gonna win the league but I can tell you its gonna be either city, Pool or Chelsea.
That means it's safe to say it's a three horse race going by this season.
Using your logic then, since Sevilla are currently doing fine, even better that Atleti, we can also say the league is between Barca, Madrid, Sevilla and Atleti. No?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 11:00pm On Nov 24, 2016
United trying to win Europa in a bid to play UCL as top 4 is not sure for them. The day they eventually crash out, we will start reading how Epl don't take Europa serious lipsrsealed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 9:30pm On Nov 24, 2016
ddippset:
lol. some people actually wanted messi sold sometime ago. can you believe that?
Na so we see am bro. I am just not good at digging posts, otherwise, I would have loved to dig some for all to see. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 9:26pm On Nov 24, 2016
Cules should just calm down a bit with the criticism flowing up and down. It's a known fact that majority of our players are going through a poor run of form at the moment. I am very sure they will survive it and come back stronger and better. We are all praising Pique today for his exploits, the same Pique many Cules here(myself inclusive) had wanted out of the club some years back due to his poor run of form after Baba Puyol hung his boot.
It's worthy of note also that Messi had been tagged so many names at one point, while some even envisaged he should be sold just because he was having a bad spell.
Every player goes through it, the only issue here is that we have many players going through it at a time. All they need is our support, if Pique could come back better, there's hope for everyone.

My issue with the coach is his failure to keep Samper as a potential back up to Busi, failure to play Arda where his potential lies and his inability to get the best out of Vidal while relying on only Roberto as a RB.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 9:28am On Nov 24, 2016
10d0ve:
with all due respect, Those players you mentioned there are not the only set out of form! Bar messi, pique n Umtiti, The whole team is out of form!
I am very sure you did not see this!
sebod:
Everyone in the team save Messi, Piqué, titi and maybe Stegen has been performing below expectation this season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 9:05am On Nov 24, 2016
bykebyke:
It's the tactics,if majority of our players are playing shït..Then obviously the coach.

Marca asked some ex Barcelona players to give their thoughts on Busi's poor form.

Look at their replies.

Oh,and an added pic of yesterday's passmap. lipsrsealed
The coach definitely has his own fare share of the blame. I will continue to castigate him for not providing adequate back-up for Busi while still sending Samper out of the team. It's obvious some of the fresh legs too are yet to get acquainted with some little details that make the team compact. That being said, I don't think the coach's tactics has anything to do with the poor run of form of Suarez, Alba, Rakitic and Masch. Same applies to Neymar who has not been living up to his potentials. I just hope we are still able to keep up coining out victory here and there pending the time everyone gets back to his best.
Injury too has not been helping our course. How do we explain Umtit and Piqué's inability to play together knowing fully that's our best pairing? Iniesta is another player sidelined due to injury at the time the younger ones need him most. We should just keep praying Messi stays fit while expecting his partners in crime recover from their poor run of form.
I am still scared of our match against Sociadad despite yesterday's victory. That's the match that will likely determine our fate in the league this season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 8:27am On Nov 24, 2016
Everyone in the team save Messi, Piqué, titi and maybe Stegen has been performing below expectation this season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by sebod(m): 11:10pm On Nov 23, 2016
dmcdad:
The same person you called into question just a fortnight ago? Huh? Issorait! I rest my case.
cheesy grin cheesy

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