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New Mozambique military hardware including new Paramount Marauder MRAPs

Algerian marine.

Stormtrooper11:
The last paragraph is still doubtful. I don't understand when you say prone to sanctions. Isn't it the Egypt that is a western ally?!
Egypt have the best army in Africa. Egyptian Army is the most Battle tested in North Africa. They are the most experienced.
Algeria has an Army anyone will wish for. They have a very good defense force overall, but it is untested. We can't vouch for something untested. Egypt over Algeria.

Hope you know that Egypt has shown near Saudi level incompetence in its ongoing war against IS in the Sianai. They have pretty posh equipment, but their personal infantry kit for the Army and battlefield tactics are still stuck in the Cold War.

Additionally, are we forgetting Algeria's gained battlefield experience from as recently as their civil war in the 90's??

Tunisian BAT. Counterterrorism taskforce with Streit Spartan mk.III APCs

Odunayaw:
Flanker1

What is the average point of view of France in your country. Is French history studied in your schools?

LMAO, Algerians hate the French, and I mean HATE the French. The atrocities committed by the French during their occupation and consequent revolutionary war is very much studied.

NA SATCOM relay vehicles

Nemesis4you:
Off topic

What is out of place in this OPV ?

Ballistic missile test launch platform? Is it Indian?

kabe1:
If we look at the number of CS/VP3, Isotex Legion & Isotex Phantoms we've bought, i'm not even adding off the shelf FV-103s, we could have accommodated local manufacturers.

Although i agree with your comment in bold, but we could have also achieved a balance.

Fair points

kabe1:
We should really look at building, investing in our local manufacturers.

Purchasing these many vehicles from abroad makes no sense to me, especially when we are dealing with a not so technical equipment, where a strong local alternative exists.

As good as they are, I think the demand is too time critical to rely on local vendors for now. Buhari is throwing so much cash into the military in anticipation for next year's offensive which he's hoping will be decisive. Its his last chance to leave a positive legacy on security and he know it. Lets hope to see results and a mother of all offensives this dry season

New batch of 100 Bigfoot MRAPs for the Nigerian Army shipped. NA seems to be building up and investing significantly on protected mobility in anticipation for the dry season offensive operation. I hear 35-40 Isotrex Legions Mraps are currently in Abuja pre deployment, along with new tracked APC's ordered after the impact made by the FV-103 Scorpions

New batch of 100 Bigfoot MRAPs for the Nigerian Army shipped. NA seems to be building up and investing significantly on protected mobility in anticipation for the dry season offensive operation. I hear 35-40 Isotrex Legions Mraps are currently in Abuja pre deployment, along with new tracked APC's ordered after the impact made by the FV-103 Scorpions

JOSCOFELIX:
uncle please check under some of my post, i said it copied and paste work and not my intel. i copied it from a what-app group

This guy ehn!

Female NN seaman of gurd duty

NN SBS

New female NAF fighter pilot in training

SANDF wasn't messing around when those riots got out of control. Rooikat fire support vehicles

Elite SANDF SOF unit with US 10th Special forces group

South African SOF. Frogman training

Lurker4Long:
Further to your question re SA SF carrying AKMs in Mozambique, a few operational photos of SA SF in Angola in the 80s.

And to reiterate, when conducting deep reconnaissance, the enemy is not supposed to know you're there, and should you be discovered and a firefight ensues, using same weapons and same uniforms will ensure some confusion which will buy a small team some time to e&e.

Thanks. I know it was a given that the SA Army at the time used FAL's and some AK's. I've also seen many SOF units in training using AK's at the training camp. Seeing SOF in Mozambique with AK's, all with attached and identical 40mm M-203 grenade launcher made it seem like it was a gradual wider shift to standard issue.

Nigerian Navy SBS marksman in the Lake T'Chad. Likely near Baga Naval Outpost. Credit @jakeporshenko

Nigerian Mavy Seaman armed with a TAR X-95

Nigerian Navy Seaman armed with a 9mm Beretta CX4 Carbine

jl115:
so did I

I'm like chikl/Algerian1...... I've tried to leave.... But I can't

Well, for what its worth, we're actually happy to have you back

lionel4power:
South Africa

Frigates: four modern Valour class

Submarines: three modern Heroine class

Fighter jets: two squadron of modern SAAB Gripens, BAE Hawks
Attack helicopters: 11 capable Rooivalks

Air Defence: South African made mobile Umkhonto short-range surface-to-air missile system.
169 Oerlikon GDF 35mm guns, along with 75 Superfledermaus fire control units (FCUs)
Skyshield air defence systems,
Thales Air Defence Starstreak very short-range air defence (VSHORAD) missile,
Support system: Indegenous Link ZA
ELINT: Oryx EW, C-47TP EW
Wartime experience: Since World War I.
Main battle tanks: Olifant (~150+ vastly upgraded centurions)


..., ....

Nigeria

Frigate: 1 (grossly outdated and irrelevant today)
Submarine: 0
Fighter jets: 3 JF-17, 9 F-7N (aerial dominance capability in contested airspace questionable)
Attack helicopters: around 10 Mi-24/35
Air defence: Shilka, Skyshield radar
Support systems: Falcon Eye and Regional maritime domain awareness
ELINT: 0
Main battle tanks: ~ 100+ T-72, VT-4, outdated Vickers mbts





Personally, the continuous comparing with South Africa is misplaced. Truth be told, only Nigerians compare themselves with South Africans here.

First if you look at the above indices, they, South Africans do not need the dixk swinging contest because they have more and superior systems.

Secondly, in experience, they have been warring under their own name since WWI. Their exploits in WWII, and Korea is still well celebrated till date.

Asides that, their naval have established their presence across the southern coast from Namibia to Mozambique a distance of 2000 nautical mile. SAN routinely patrol this distance to keep the area clear without making noise.

While the Gulf of Guinea is 1295.896 nautical miles.

When the Suez canal was blocked by the Evergreen, global shipping began moving their goods around the Cape of Good Hope. That is about $10 billion per day. And still the SAN kept these ships safe from pirate attacks. We never heard of any attack.

Bottom line is, capabilities and threat analysis differs. Nigeria's military acquisition is focused on counter-terrorism. While that of S.A is focused on peer-to-peer competition.

Yes, recently Nigeria has acquired new gadgets but I noticed that whenever new tech is bought, some people quickly come here to drag S.A.

Funny though, because I don't see Saffars doing the same. Even though they've been pummeled recently by budgets cuts, there's a reason they're still being placed above Nigeria in ranking. This is because 1) they have a world-class defense industry. 2) they have the experience. 3) they have the equipment.

Lastly, this disk swinging contest have driven the saffers from this forum, what else do you guys want.

Please reply me with commonsense.

Echoed the exact same sentiments yesterday, but unfortunately people came for my head.

This thread is suddenly really fun. Reminds me of the good'ol days

Randlord:
Your myriad of maritime assets are armed with what missiles? What happens when your maritime ISR assets spot a Valour-class frigate in the Gulf of Guinea? Nothing. One Valour Class will blast that plane from the skies with our AAM (homemade) and sink your whole naval fleet of tiny vessels - FACT!

You talk about your numerous air assets. Pray do tell what missiles are they armed with? Our front line fighters are armed with IRST missiles and A-Darter. It's no contest, 2 Gripens will blast your fighters and Tucanos to kingdom come - FACT!

Everything else is emotional drivel. The FACTS are clear as day.

I largely agree with this assessment. It is what it is. For all the nay sayers, how many missile armed vessels does the NN have. The NN has very limited Blue water capabilities. Its strategic growth plans and recapitalisation efforts would see it into a very formidable force in a few years, but in its current state, if we're being honest,its a glorified coast guard.

On the NAF, our Tucanos are strike aircraft and the deal didn't include any A2A missiles. The JF-17s are another case entirely. They can go toe to toe with any Gripen, but unfortunately we only have them in little numbers. With the M-346FA deal however, Nigeria will have a pretty good air deterrent. Their A2A weapons suite are the same as the Eurofighter Typhoon. We'll also have them in decent numbers

JOSCOFELIX:
oga which gripen are talking about ? Is the one without modern tech? Let me tell you the truth,we will not use our j 17 ,our m346fa ,f 7, we will use our alpha jet to fall you guy gripen or na greenpen. Nigeria atr 42 can be armed with misslie if the need comes.so your toy ship is not important or submarine is not important .let me tell you the truth you guy valour ship is ilke a covrttee not frigate.

You're such an embarrassment

JOSCOFELIX:
oga i know what is vt4 tank and type 89 ifv. the vehicle i saw na confirm vt4 tank or type 89 ifv the get 120mm mbt canon? it is very new.i think it is coming from lagos because it was heading toward abuja. ask anybody in natako junction this morning between 9am NA did not buy any type 89 ifv for now. Just rumor nobody know the equipment supplied.

You might be right, who knows, but someone who confidently states that NAF deployed JF-17's a few hours after their delivery, before they were even reassembled no less, in order to drop RAAD-II nuclear capable cruise missiles on a bunch of morcycle-borne bandits is not someone I'd consider even remotely a reliable source of information.

JOSCOFELIX:
NA is getting there Vt4 mbt . just see new 4 mbt on 4 truck

Not VT-4's. Those were Norinco Type 89 tracked IFVs. Not a great purchase, but still better than nothing. Please learn to verify information before posting.

JOSCOFELIX:
nigeria military have sign deal with russia. legit intel

Its been all over the news for the past one week Mr Intel.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cfr.org/blog/nigeria-and-russia-sign-military-cooperation-agreement%3famp

RiceProducers:
When you are doing ISR, you are measuring distances (ranging) , you are making a video of the battle space, you are transmitting data so there I expect signal processing computers onboard fusing data from many sensors and sending data. The planes would be primarily special mission aircraft with secondary strike capability but they would be sacrificing weapon payloads for ISR equipment.

The FLIR ISR pod, or in this case the Elecro-optical targeting system EOTS, guides the GBU Paveways and APKWS to target using a laser designator to "paint" the target. In this configuration, having a FLIR pod in no way affects its mission statement as a strike aircraft nor does it hinder it from carrying munition but rather, increases its efficiency. Conducting ISR and strike missions is not mutually exclusive.

Additionally on the Tucano, the FLIR pod has its own dedicated hardpoint away from the weapons pylons.

RiceProducers:
ISR dedicated aircraft won't have all hardpoints installed. Only mounting points for EO/IR cameras and other devices

Actually, the Tucanos with the EO/IR turrets are the ones capable of precious bomb strikes with their GBU Paveways and APKWS. The FLIR cameras double as EPTS you see.