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HappyPagan:
Yes o. Open-minded person are close to the idea that Jesus was violent.

You missed your way Mr Pagan? If indeed you were a happy Pagan, you won't be so hunted as to jump into every thread where Christ is taught.

It won't relieve the heat of the flames in hell. If you don't repent, you and the demons you worship, will burn.

OLAADEGBU:
2. The Inquisitions (torture)

The inquisitions were established by the Roman Catholic Church to serve the purpose of seeking out, trying and sentencing people who were found guilty of heresy. The purpose of the inquisitions was to secure and maintain religious and doctrinal unity in the Roman Catholic Church and throughout the Holy Roman Empire, through either the conversion or persecution of alleged heretics.

The 4 inquisitions were as followers:

– The Medieval Inquisition

– The Spanish Inquisition

– The Portuguese Inquisition

– The Roman Inquisition

Now the inquisitors used many methods of torture on the accused heretics for the purpose of acquiring a confession. Some of these methods included:

Stropaddo: Where the hands of the accused were tied behind his back and bound to the ceiling. The subject was then raised, hanging from his arms. Sometimes the tormenters would jerk the body, add weights to the ankles and even employ some heavy drops. All this permitted for his shoulders to pull out from their sockets.

Rack: During the rack, the subject had his hands and feet tied or chained to rollers at one or both ends of a wooden frame. The torturer turned the rollers with a handle, which pulled the chains or ropes in and stretched the subject's joints. If the torturer continued, the accused’s arms and legs could be torn off.

But what about the Messiah? Did Jesus ever take part or sanction the torturing of heretics?

The word torture in the gospels: First and foremost, the word torture or torment is found no more than 10 times in the gospels. None of them, however, serve as commands for Christians to employ against other people.

Jesus did not torture or kill heretics: During Christ’s 3 year ministry, he spent a lot of time discussing and debating a people called the Pharisees and the Sadducees. Now many people may ask what this has to do with the inquisitions?

Well, when you further examine the practices and notions of these Jewish groups, you will see that they too, would have fallen under the category of "heretics" as well:

The Sadducees

The Sadducees were a very logical and legalistic people. They did not believe in the resurrection of the dead, the afterlife, spirit realms and angels or demons.

The Pharisees

The Pharisees did not adhere to the practice of "sola scriptora." They were the possessors of other books and doctrines which were forged by men. So much so that many a times these man made traditions would OVERRIDE the word of God. One of its consequences can be found in the gospel of Matthew, where these people would create a hierarchical system of oaths which would justify and permit lying! Matthew 23:16-22.

Yet despite these heretical views and practices, Jesus did not command them to be tortured or killed. Read the gospels, you will not find it anywhere. Rather, when they tortured and killed Jesus, he told the Father to forgive them (Luke 23:34) Jesus did not hang them (stropaddo), yet he hung on the cross. Jesus did not tear off their limbs, he commanded us cut off whatever causes us to sin (Matthew 5:30).

Jesus says love heretics

Jesus commands us to love all people, brothers and enemies alike (Matthew 5:44). He commands us to be good to all people, the good and the evil. (Matthew 5:44-45). And he commands us to love him by keeping his commandments. (John 14:15).

The Catholic Church was so satanic to say the least. Imagine their methods of torture?

OLAADEGBU:
Were the crimes committed by the KKK committed in the name of Jesus?

The agents of satan within the Church committed the crimes to discredit the Church, their brethren standing out the churching do the discrediting, that was the intent.

HenryDion:
God gave you no laws. That book you base your life on was written by a man like you.

Animals on heat do not identify their mothers or fathers or children, they all mate. So you HenryDion fugs your mother and allow your father fug you. You fug your brothers and sisters, and when you'll have children, you shall fug them all.

Now I see why you are an animal for real.

Keep telling yourself that God didn't Man laws, it won't be long any more, death shall come knocking then you'll enjoy cooling in the grave without a God to ask you what you did with the life you were given.

Oh, wait!!!! You gave yourself life. Foooool.

@VBCampaign, come and see your pal here o. You said he didn't run away, why has he abandoned the other thread to come to this one?

The mention of homosexuality gives him a kick.

MuttleyLaff:
I have so far been following in the quiet background, your interaction with keen interest and fully enjoying reading your comments on this matter with a gladdened heart

Why are you saying nobody is endorsing gay sex Ubenedictus? Especially when God never, at any instance, is against gay sex huh?.

The Bible never has said, it is a sin to have sexual feelings with anyone of the same sex. God too, has no problems with same sex couples, as in, consenting adults loving each other. God never said homosexuality was an abomination either Ubenedictus and trust me, jesusjnr knows this and more.

Nowhere in the original manuscript of the bible Ubenedictus, is homosexuality, even in the remotest, being mentioned as wrong or a sin. That nonsense and its accomplice other bunch of lies werent put into the bible, until the King James version was written.

Ubenedictus, I repeat the bible does not say same-sex love is sin, but it does say that lust, lasciviousness, being promiscuous, being unfaithful, infidelity, cheating, straying, fornication etcetera are sins.

Being gay is not a sin, gluttony, shaving your beard, eating seafood like lobster, shrimp, crab, catfish or pork etcetera is sin. God encourages people to love everyone even your worst enemies. By loving someone, you're doing what God asks us to do. When homophobes and/or homophobics, the likes of jesusjnr, elated177, Shepherd00, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15, TV01, ThothHermes condemn others for being gay, they're condeming love with hate, and this goes directly against, all that God and the teachings of Jesus says.

Ubenedictus reflect and ponder further more on the subject matter long enough please. Think about it, being gay, as in, same sex couples in a kind, caring, loving, committed, trusting and faithful relationship, is the only alleged and so-called "sin thing" that doesn't harm nor hurt anyone, doesnt have a victim, doesnt abuse a partner, doesnt cheat on partner, not into infidelity etcetera

Ubenedictus, if being gay, as in, same sex couples, in a kind caring, loving, committed, trusting and faithful relationship is not an affliction, then what is with you having qualms endorsing gay sex, hmm? If you know Ubenedictus, what it feels like to lie, cheat, steal, hurt, hate, lust, be jealous, practice idolatry etcetera and you've felt the negative consequences, please list what are the negative consequences and obvious negatives brought into the world by gays that compels that they be looked at as bad and threatening please?

Isnt it ironic Ubenedictus that being gay, condemned and purported as sin, shares the same passage with forbidding wearing clothing of mixed fabrics, cutting and trimming the hair on the sides of one's head etcetera but they arent the squeaky wheels, like being gay, getting the oil attention, huh?

We can, maybe later Ubenedictus, have you elaborate more on what you in toto mean by sodomy in your "... I am against sodomy" comment
cc Baddiezz, TV01, ThothHermes, VBCampaign, Michellekabod2

Why did you run away from the other thread only to be shouting my Moniker here?

A.nus warrior

VBCampaign:
MuttleyLaff never runs. He'll be back.

I don't support gays nor LGBT. But like Voltaire says "I might not agree with you on something but I'll defend till death your right to say it". Let's hear our brother out and let's give him the freedom to air his views.

One day I'll write on Guns, Homosexuality and Abortion. One day...

Yes, everyone has the right to take their stance and fight for their convictions. He, like everyone out there. But, when you do that twisting scriptures which are clearly against to support your points, that is why will continue to shout him down.

One day you'll support abortion you mean? Will you be backing whatever you'll be saying with Scriptures? If so, prepare your barrage of scriptures which will swallow 'Thou shall not kill' up. And, like MuttleyLatff, Will you force us to accept that God never forbade murder hence, all the scriptures against it are not saying what we read?

MuttleyLatff. For curiosity sake, and for the fact that you won't stop beating your chest about me being intimidated by your Alan Turning and Leo Varadkar question, I went to Google them out.

You know MuttleyLatff, I was expecting that I would see men who were great evangelical Reformer/Revivalists who took the gospel of salvation to the ends of the earth like Charles Spurgeon, Smith wigglsword, Billy Graham. People like C.S. Lewis, who were homosexuals yet did well in changing the world for Christ, but alas, I saw Self serving atheists who haven received of God talents, turned against God in their ways.

Again, I expected to read the testimony of Alan Turning being a renown homosexual who died went to heaven and was welcomed into heaven and he was gladly ushered into a homosexual heavenly Community, but came back to let the world know that Jehovah has no problem with homosexuals.

But, alas, I saw men who you homosexuals refer to as Gay icons, who wore their gayness openly without shame and for that you called me to stand by you and cheer them up.

Why were so insistent that I knew him? Is it becos he was a gay scientist or that he committed suicide?

What a shame!

MuttleyLatff huffed and puffed ran off for good. next he'll appear in another thread beating his chest claiming Superman. He'll tell the world how he finished Shepherd and TV and all the anti-homosexual Christisns.

Some people no get shame.

HenryDion:
This is ridiculous lol

What made same sex relationship an abomination or unnatural? If we go by nature, then it is more natural than nature itself. Homosexualism has been found to exist in over 1500 species of animal. Sadly, homophobia exist only in one, humans.

Now you will say, "Why compare humans to lower animals?"

We are talking about 'natural', remember?

Love cares not about gender, race or religion. Gayism is much more than just sex. Many of you religious folks thinks someone being gay means he is out for sex and sex alone. You think he wants to sleep with every male he comes across..

Two males can be in a relationship, kiss, get intimate and love, without involving penetration. Love is beyond sex. When you folks hear about gays, the first image that pops up is someone digging an ass. Why?

Doesn't this tell you something? That your definition of love is wrong and insane? That sex has nothing to do with love? Two young men can be in love, kiss, be there for each other, without involving penetration.

Even if they do engage in penetration, should that cause an uproar? Even the female folks sometimes takes it up the ass... What's actually your basis of hate?

Two consented adults being in love, harming no one in particular, how does that affect you?

The fact is, humans would always find a reason to hate what he doesn't understand. You are just hateful! Your Bible has nothing to do with you being hateful.

Pls feel free to point to the sets of laws God gave to these 1500 species of animals to abide by as He did to Man.

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MuttleyLaff:
Look at him again here doing another barefaced lying like a cheap Persia rug

I dare you, to print here the full thread sequence of what you said, and my response to what brought about what I typed after that had to do with kissing

I said this;

Maybe if you were straight or Homophobic,you'd ve understood what I mean. I watch empire I say Jamal and his men, I see them kiss themselves and I wonder if they are humans. It is sickening to say the least.
And you responded with this;

" Then Joseph fell on his father's face, and wept over him and kissed him. "
- Genesis 50:1
" Greet one another with a kiss of love Peace be to you all who are in Christ "
- 1 Peter 5:14
" All the brethren greet you. Greet one another with a holy kiss. "
- 1 Corinthians 16:20
I tell you, you're more confused than a chameleon dropped into a bag of skittles. C'mon, it is to you unhuman, for men to kiss each other now, hmm? SMH. Please tell what sign did Judas give to betray Jesus, huh?

MuttleyLaff, tell me how I lied against you. You just justified homosexuality with your post, and even dared to use the Patriarchs for it. My God!!!!!

MuttleyLaff:
I am always astonished why liars' pants, ones like what Shepherd00 wears, doesnt actually catch fire. Literally not an iota, not a single word of this your comment is even remotely true Shepherd00. You can see from my 8:36pm On Apr 28 and 5:59am On May 13 comments above there in inverted commas, that what you falsely accuse me of, is something you and your ilk regularly enjoy doing to me.

When you call me a lair, I expect that you point out my.lies. Or, maybe you believe that by calling me thus, I'd become one. lol.

What lies did I tell Muttley?

MuttleyLaff:
I knew went anywhere, so dont fret nwanne, as I will address the ignored elephant, that is in the room that the likes of jesusjnr, elated177, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15, Baddiezz, TV01, Shepherd00 etcetera runs away from, hides by bending down and burying their heads in the sand

When there's a big fat lie elephant in the room introduce him. Dont just look at the elephant and pretend it isnt there like them jesusjnr, elated177, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15, Baddiezz, TV01, Shepherd00 etcetera do.

Yes, you did read a Sun Tzu quote, and that's out from "Sun Tzu - The Art of War"

TV01 is a bloody drama queen, he plays the victim so well whilst acting like there is no elephant in the room, a man who truly believes all the lies and so, others like elated177, Agrogbeide, Shepherd00 etcetera bought into the lies too, he pats them on the back.

Blood, sweat, tears and respect. The first three are a done deal, you take or give, the last one you earn it.

TV01 better look the fairy out because I am going to make him discover that the lies he was raised up with, that he learned to believe, as truths, are not truths at all. I promise him, its going to hurt, the truth, because I recall reading Terence James Stannus Gray, saying, "In order to be effective, truth must penetrate like an arrow. And that is likely to hurt"

TV01 is someone prepped up to be barbecued, but then on own accord, went on to rub himself down with kerosene and get soaked up in gasoline. All I have to do light a match

Oh my, this guy. I asked you what use is homosexuality to humanity and the Universe in general, as God created everything to be useful to Humans and the Universe, but, you dropped the thread like it's hot, but here you are mentioning me like you are on auto-repeat.

MRXELA:
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streetdisciple:
How come there were still a large number of Unsullied and Dothraki army at the end.... I taught most of the dothraki and half the unsullied army were wiped out during the battle with the army of the dead.

and if the north is now an independent kingdom, why is a northern man the king of the remaining six kingdoms

I thought I was the only one who observed this. It seemed the Unsullied didn't fight the dead. I didn't see them.

Almost all the Othrakis attacked the army of the dead and got swallowed up, few came back, so where were the lot we saw in Kingslanding?

They acted Nollywood there.

I was angry how this Show ended.

Cercei just died a casual death after all she did.

What was the essence of Arya's Facelessness? What purpose did it really serve?

Jon becoming a Wildling is what saddened me the most.

And Bron becomes a lord when we didn't see anything he really did, whether in Kingslanding or in the North with the Dead.

All my expectations crashed just like that.

The Hell?

If you had talked about homosexuality, he'd have told you it is right, but pastors are all wrong.

OnPointMan:
Just say you have no proof

Okay.

MuttleyLaff get mind tell me say homosexuals kissing themselves is allowed by God as Joseph fell on his father's neck and kissed him, and Paul said Christisns shd kiss each other. So, yes men kissing men is scriptural.

You have heard anything so blasphemous as this?

Oh, I used to like him, until I discovered he was gay warrior.

ThothHermes:
Yes yes!!!

This is going to be fun. Muttleylaff wants to ride a dragon.
Targaryen style.

MuttleyLaff like Homosexuality pass food sef. Just mention homo before you add sex, he is there fuming from his nostrils.


He invaded my thread which had nothing to do with homosexuality and almost turn it completely to that.


The first Christian 'homosexualist' I have met.

TV01:
Ogbeni, there is no such thing as a "homosexual" person (LGBTQ+ people). There are people who due to dysfunction or moral reprobation suffer dysphoria or engage in sexual acts that are against nature or, more properly, against Gods creational design and order.

These people, and those who "have pleasure in them" (i.e. support, encourage or enforce) are actively engaging in what biblically is a sin. Unmistakable, unambiguous and unmitigated sin.

But, thank God, not irredeemable. People can be redeemed from this behaviour in Christ - as like for any other sin or outworking of man's sinful nature. 1 Corinthians 6:11.

Nobody is saying that those who engage in "homosexual" acts should be treated as you've described above. I don't even care or, care to reproach you for being a champion, or what I'd call a "homosexualist".

My writing it to totally refute any attempt to normalise or sanctify this sinful behaviour by butchering, revising or simply ignoring the scriptural writ. You may well think you can, but you can't ride this beast you have mounted.


TV

permit me to borrow that term 'homosexualist'.

OnPointMan:
Please quote where the Bible says he is, so i may stop erring.

No. Go on erring, because I'd just waste my time on you, and I don't have it.

falcon01:
you me and every black idiot

Only you and your folk sir.i am not a baboon

OpenYourEyes1:
It is pretty consistent with many ritual stories I have read. Only the naive will continue to doubt the existence of this things


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goqrhfxpem0&itct=CDcQpDAYASITCJzK45P7v-ACFUmIVQodnpwMEDILYzQtdmlkZW9zLXVaGFVDdl8teWMwNTVuMWZ4RmZUWXBkYUtCZw%3D%3D&gl=NG&client=mv-google&hl=en

One shd watch this clip and tell me again that satan has nothing to do with homosexuality and I will call the person a satanist.

The evil Sir Alister Crowley made it plain that homosexuality is used in satanic rituals but under cover agents of satan are here claiming it doesn't harm anyone.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

Confused lots!

It's now that it has become gossip to gossip about jesusjnr, and be spreading lies and false accusations all the over the NL religious concerning him.

As I said earlier, despite that buda is currently misbehaving seriously, I believe he by is far better than the spiritually dead christian op, who thinks he believes in Jesus even he doesn't know the Truth.

Hence i am going to help a friend for old times sake.

Yes buda, your "know" in the respect of Jesus can be backed up not just by the Bible, but the Words of Jesus which I rep, for it was said:

John 8:30-32 (KJV)

As he spake these words, many believed on him.
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

Now you can see from the passage what Jesus yet said to those Jews that were said to have believed in Him, for their belief in Him was not good enough for Jesus without them coming to know Him, for He was the Truth they needed to know which would set them free.

And in order to know the Truth, they needed to continue in His Words, in other words obey His Words, and not just believe.

For any belief in Jesus without knowing Jesus, the Truth, just as this spiritually dead Christian op does, is the fake and false kind of belief, and not belief by the interpretation of Jesus.

For the true interpretation of belief whenever Jesus used it, is not without knowing Jesus, the Truth which could set man free from the condemnation of sin and gives him eternal life, for that's the true freedom, and it cannot come with just believing and not knowing the Truth.

And you would get to know why Jesus insisted that they get to know Him despite believing in Him, when you go through the very passage, for this was what the same people that were said to have believed in Jesus did to Him afterwards:

John 8:59 (KJV)

Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

And I can see some traits of this spiritually dead christian op in those people who believed in Jesus without knowing Him, that later picked up stones to throw at Him, for saying to them that just believing in Him was not enough, but that they needed to know Him, the Truth, by keeping His Words. For that's in a sense what He's doing to you for saying same, so he would have done the same to Jesus if He was here in person.

I am not saying that you buda are not getting it wrong in certain areas, but in the area of not just believing in Jesus but to know Him, as anyone who's not blind should have seen, it's actually backed up by Jesus' Words.

For any believing in Jesus without knowing Him, the Truth, through keeping His Words, is a very fake and false believing in Jesus, for it is not the interpretation of belief according to Jesus.

And I think the spiritually dead Christian op should instead open a thread calling out himself for erroneously thinking that true belief in Jesus was possible without knowing Jesus, the Truth, that sets man free.

I won't bother myself with you Jesusjnr. Go to your threads and see how many Christians agree with you. You are the only living Christian, everyone is a dead Christian.

Even when you preach heresy, you scream louder that everyone is wrong only you are a true Follower of Jesus. Oh, but that has always been the case. Satan trying to project himself more profound than anyone else.

A Christian who even mentions curses with his mouth is a witch/Wizard hiding under the cloak of Christianity. Christians do not lay curses, we bless.

A Christian who calls Apt Paul an Apostate cannot be anything than a Tare waiting to germinate and bare fruits.

A Christian who is so proud to the point of believing that atheists are better than Christisns, is an undercover atheist going somewhere to manifest.

A Christian who calls every other Christians devils is nothing but an agent of darkness waiting to manifest.

A Christians who does not know that Pride is Satan's principal sprit is nothing but a dead man.

You and Budaatum fits yourself. the same Bedfellows.

What did Jesus say,

As water answered to the face, so the deep calleth to the deep. The same Spirit gravitates towards its likeness.

Why do you hate me, I call your lies out. And, don't think I'm done.

I will hunt you and your lies here.

falcon01:
Thats why when I see white man making Racist comment, it hurts me but deep down they are right. we are bunch of useless baboons !

I think you meant to say 'You and your generation are a bunch of useless baboons'

HenryDion:
This is exactly what religion is all about. Created by man's figments of imagination. Only difference was that op was kind enough to state it's fiction.

For some, they will claim it really happened. While those whose stories have stood for years make another religion out of it..



Make una continue

This seems to fit someone very close:

And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From roaming to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Job 1:7

Stop roaming everywhere the children of God are gathered. Are you a wanderer? Rest.


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