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I'd like to be part of this discussion, but you seem to be talking about Religion in general terms.

Let's define the term here. What religion specifically are we talking about?

The reason I'm asking this is, some responders are making it sound like it's a Christian thing or maybe Islam too (?).

Apart from these two religions, (I may be wrong) they are no other religions which teaches AfterLife.

nnamdiosu:
Now, while i was out of my body, i noticed that i was extra light. i was also floating in the air. Like hovering a bit above the ground. I could also see very very far, if i wanted to see another country from where i was, i would have being able too. My emotions were heightened.
So when i sensed another presence around me and turned, i was shocked.

I saw 6 beings. their faces where like wolves, their teeth rooten but very sharp. Dirty mucus/saliva was oozing out of it. Their eyes was a mixture of both hatred, deep hatred and joy. They wore military suits that were very very old. On their hands where rusted but very effected chains. The moment they saw me, they threw it all over me. The moment the chains landed on me, their slowly gripped me. The more i struggled, the tighter it gripped me and the happier they were.

I struggled but it was in vain. These beings (demons) were very very strong. the strongest man on earth is still like a baby in their arms.
Then i noticed that the ground below us just opened, in a perfect circle, like a funnel and we descended with increasing speed. As we were descending, i lookup to to earth and i discovered something, all around the earth, they were holes, spinning round the whole world. People, lot of people were being sucked in the earth. In millions. From all nations. Japanese, chinese, black people, men, women, white people etc. An example of the spiral hole is below...

The more i descended, the darker and hotter it became. The darkness doesn't have n explanation. or comparison. In fact, when you close your eyes at mid night, it is very bright compared to what i saw. The demons around me were using their claws to scrape my skin. they were doing it in excitement, like when you are frying plantain, and are pinching it small small, knowing that you will feast on it at a later time.

then, without warning and suddenly we landed. the demons landed upright but i landed unprepared. THE MOMENT I LANDED, IT HT ME WITH A FULL FORCE. THE NOISE AND SMELL.
imagine like billions and billions of people screaming at the top of their voice at the same time. my ear drums almost split. the noise was unbearable. i put my hands on my ears in pains. Then the smell of a billion rotting flesh hit my noise. it felt like the worse smell ever.
All along i felt i was dreaming. i was like am i dreaming, where am i? what is this? etc

I read something very close to this in Swedenborg's 'Heaven And Hell.

These things must be real.

solite3:
at bolded I disappointed in you.

you think faith alone cannot justify a man.

If you are to only have Faith and do nothing else, why are you asked to do this; ...be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Romans 12:2
Who does the transformation and the renewing of your mind? You.


When you are saved, you do not become blind to temptations, are you purged from lust.

You must fight to keep Lust off your mind.

The urge to commit sexual sin will hunt you every day, what do you do, you fight it.

The reason why you shd lie and get out of that messy situation, will stare you in the face, you keep faith by telling the Truth anyways.

Hunger pangs shall strike at you, but with your pocket empty what do you do? You either work, beg or steal food. what will you do?

Do you pray?

All these are Working. God won't do these for you no matter how much faith you have.


This is the reason you guys rise up against The Word Faith believers, we put our Faith to Work that's why we prosper while you sit back and calls us names.

solite3:
at bolded I disappointed in you.

you think faith alone cannot justify a man.

THE WORD OF GOD SAYS SO, NOT ME Bros.

Romans 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Matthew 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:


James 1:22-23 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:

ikorodureporta:
..but you gained something from the link

That obliterated every point made in that thread.

XxSabrinaxX:
Mwahahaha!! Jesusjnr, i don open that your smelling arse 4 this thread . You never jam. Everybody's gonna see you for the shameless fraud you are. I'm just starting with you. I've been seeing you view the thread but you ran away as usual. You'll keep getting trashed like the black monkey you are

Na who piss for your birthday Cake?

Well, happy belated birthday Sabrina.

jesusjnr:
Yes you're right!

I don catch a big utterly stupid brainless fish, Lol!

What an irony, well teach us how not to be upset by your spiteful reaction, for its a proof indeed that your hurt doesn't exist, Lol.

It worked! It worked!! It worked!!! For this is what we're talking about, for it was getting boring so i'm so glad that I had finally succeeded in cracking your wrath code!

But you've fallen my hand oh, for at least I thought that for all the noise makings and thunderous threatenings, that you had the balls to take on me one on one by yourself.

But then I come see where your mouth dey come from, na the crowd wey you dey rely on to fight battle wey your utter stupidity bring upon your own head, for if na only you, you know say nothing gum you but just scum.

But as for me i don't rely on human beings to fight my battles for me, so I ain't inviting any one, so you and all the crowd you brought with you, na how many dem dey?

1, 2, 3, 4, 5,... abeg regardless of the amount just bring them on, for there could only be one winner and it wouldn't be the utterly stupid and her full entourage.

So who's going first?

What's going on?

ikorodureporta:
You want to know how to burst their members??
Read this..
https://sites.google.com/site/christourtruth/occult-symbols-and-images-in-today-s-churches
...see one of them below:

So, we should come out from All Churches? Lolzz. Satan will like that very much.

budaatum:
Lol, Shepherd. The irony of it, eh?

Yeah, the irony of it. Only, you admitted not even being a Christian. You said you do not believe in Jesus, you do not believe in the Bible as what is written there was hear say and propagandas, and you said God did not create us to worship Him, hence you don't.

See the difference?

I'm done with you Buda.

jesusjnr:
It's obvious that there are many doctrines these days, and that of the deeper life is just one of them, but there's a doctrine that supercedes every other doctrine of the church, and it is the doctrine of Jesus the Master and Lord of the church.

Hence I said you should put it side by side the doctrine of Oyedepo or any other doctrines, and
compare, for this was how I was able to find the error in the teachings of Oyedepo and also the deeper life Bible church, and others.

For instance in the deeper life, the emphasis placed on dressing and outward appearance is not in sync with the doctrine of Jesus which places such emphasis on the heart, but at the same time it was clearly obvious that they were much closer to the doctrine of Jesus than that of the likes of Oyedepo.

You know what yardstick you used to come to the conclusion that his teachings make one come to the understanding of living a fulfilled christian life, and as I've said before, I'd say it again that it is not a very good sign knowing what I already know.

But at the end of the day you'd not be judged by me or you or Oyedepo etc., but by how you followed the teachings of Jesus because He's the perfect Master who holds the keys to eternal life.

So that's what I'd ask you to do first of all, so tha if his teachings which you obviously embraced tallies with the teachings of Jesus, then you have nothing to worry about because it's all about what the Master says.

But as for me whose mindset has become shaped by Christ's teachings, it's very obvious that Oyedepo's doctrine is no more different from that of the Pharisees who Jesus rebuked severally and warned His disciples to beware of, and hence my stance concerning him.

Peace.

He asked you to point out what Oyedepo teaches that is wrong. Pls point them out.

ehissi:
God is the better person to address this your questìon to......

But I am of the opinion that it is not how much value God places on it but on the value we place on it.

When He demanded Isaac of Abraham, He even said it, "take thy Son, thy only Son whom though loveth".

An indicator to the possibility that, Isaac as far as Abraham was concerned was his most valuable possession in the midst of all his wealth.

Funny enough, he just got the child from God after waiting for more than a decade, if not more, only for God to ask him to offer the child as a sacrifice. Doesn't that look like wickedness?


The bible says that Abraham journeyed 3 whole days to the point where the sacrifice was to be made, he didn't turn back nor hestitate.

When you consider that Abraham had that child in his very old age (somewhere over 90yrs of age), that child was valuable to him......


Oyedepo at a time in his life had just an OND, and literally came up from squalor to glamour. For someone who at one time in his life, was eating cereal with his wife meant for the baby for 3 days because there was no food, if that person ever mistakenly buy/own a car his life, them no need to tell you how valuable that car will be to him, have you met a very hungry/poor accountant before?


Kenneth Hagin of blessed memory once spoke of a time when God asked him to give a random preacher that came to squat with him money, that money was money he had been saving for over a year to finally have an actual christmas holiday for the first time in almost like never for himself and his family.

That preacher was enroute to a city where he was going to do manual labour to raise money for a bible school he wanted to attend.

After he escorted him to where the preacher was to take the next transportation to leave town, Hagin unhappily gave the preacher the money....


Many years later, according to Kenneth Hagin's testimony (me I was not there oooo), Hagin claimed that God reminded him of that money, how?


He followed his wife to do hospital visitation of a lady that had stage 4 cancer in another city, Doctors had allegedly given her a few months to live.


Kenneth Hagin said the Lord asked him to pray for her, way deep down in his heart he was confused, because he didn't know what to pray for, Farewell abi safe journey prayer?


Because the Lady in question had so emaciated to a point where prayer at this point felt like just another religious exercise.


But at a point his wife for some reason left the room briefly and he summoned up courage to pray and in his own words, he perceived an atmosphere lift from that room like a spirit, in his own words, he grabbed the bed and prayed and left....


About a few weeks later, word got to him that she was healed, he just felt it was just another person trying to blindly and foolishly believe, hoping something will happen.


He that prayed for her didn't believe until he saw her with his own two eyes, she had put on weight and travelled from her city to attend service in his own parish.


He was overjoyed, thankful, wooow, it felt good for God to use him to bless a lady at the point of death. In trying to make sense of it all, he said God asked him, if he remembered the preacher who came to squat in his house that he gave his holiday saving money, he eventually remembered.


At that point, he claimed God asked him, which is easier of the two for you to do, to give that preacher that money or to pray for this woman?


In his own understanding of what the Lord was trying to teach him, "a man who is faithful in little will be faithful in much".

That scripture is often used to teach people about management of resources but in this case, Hagin used it to teach about instruction.....

If you have faith to obey God to do things are actually in your power to do, it will be easier for you to have faith to obey God to do things that you actually have no power of your own to do.

If He cant send you message, where the variables are 100% under your control and have you listen what makes you think if He sends you message to do big things that may sound ridiculous, silly and unconventional and variables are 100% out of your control that you will even attempt to do it?

They won't read this.

@Ishilove, @alBHAGDADI, will derail this thread. Pls take control of your thread. You asked a question that most of us needs to learn from.

alBHAGDADI:
Mark 10:25 (KJV)
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.



Yet you think a rich pastor will somehow make heaven.

This is my last if you'd answer me. Who did Jehovah create gold, silver, Diamonds, precious things, oil under the ground, I mean, every wealth creating material for?

Satan and his agents?

Or, it isn't God who created these things?

alBHAGDADI:
You are not saved because you believe Jesus is not strong enough to enough to keep you save till the end. That's why you depend on your works of righteousness to save you.

Like I said, the Book of Life is in your hands so you know who is saved. Turn me back when I die, and make sure you die before me, so that you won't miss turning me back.

You're ignorantly bold and arrogant.

NOTE: This thread is not a place for you to preach your gospel of 'Justification by Faith Alone', it's about FreeMason, so take your Once Saved Always saved somewhere else.

Billy0naire:
I am not surprised at your vituperation, because we know the real meaning of 'Ishi', those who know the meaning will not laugh at you, but will pity you.

But I still love you, nonetheless. Ishi - Love. What a name.

Are you an Hydra? You are shooting up in all directions. didn't you bid Nairaland goodbye and deactivated your account? You swore you were done with Nairaland, but you been back like 5times with different derivational monikers.

Why are you neglecting your health so much?

alBHAGDADI:
I'm saying what you will never understand cos you are not saved.

Lolzz. Okay Mr God. You know who is and who is not saved.

Make sure to stand by the gate of heaven when I die with the book of.life to turn me back.

alBHAGDADI:
The best way to know a pastor who is a Mason is by one method. Before that method, you get to see certain signs which will make a true Christian apply that method.

What are the signs? They are very wealthy, worshipped and full of false doctrines. A true pastor can possess such attributes too, but before you conclude on labeling any one a Mason, you have to apply the one method.

If they are preaching work based Salvation, then they are liars and a Mason for being rich and worshipped.

If it's Once Saved Always Saved they preach and they are rich and worshipped, then it means they are true but just doing the gospel for filthy lucre sake


If it's Once Saved Always Saved they preach AND ARE NOT RICH, then they are truly doing it for God.

In other Words, if I say 'Once saved is not always saved', and I'm prosperous, I'm of the devil?

WTH is this guy saying?

MuttleyLaff:
Oyedepo is like Marmite alright. You love Marmite or hate Marmite.

Ah well, I do know there are two kinds of successes, there is good success and bad success. I also know that someone may seem to be successful, but that's not a guarantee that, it is at all good success. Probably then, it could, in the real sense, be bad success. I am just saying ni ooo Image123.

It pays to serve Jesus with a conscience

You mean like the conscience you have when you humb your fellow men?

You are a champion when it comes to talking down servants of God, but will bite off the head of anyone who says Homosexuality is a sin before God.


Your Gayness, your fruits are showing.

MuttleyLaff:
Ignoranus Goatherd00, Mr Fixated on Anus, instead of just saying, please tell the sriptures I've falsified, tell how I am a thief, tell what I stole?

All the scriptures you use here are falsified to support your habit. scripture thief.

Thou shall not steal goes for any one who lies with the Scriptures by falsifying them and trying to hide the it's truth hence lead people to error and death. You are the worst thief.

Your Gayness, the Bible say, 'Thou shall not steal'.

MuttleyLaff:
Goatherd00 or what do you call yourself sef, I thought I warned you to stop distracting me with your bad energy erh?

Your Gayness, I am a Christian who looks into the scriptures and try my best to do what it says the ways it says it. Can we say the same of your Gayness?

MuttleyLaff:
You typed: "I see them kiss themselves and I wonder if they are humans. It is sickening to say the least.", so, I gave you four instances of men kissing each other, letting you know that, there isnt anything inhuman or sickening, as you believe, in men kissing each other, but you then immediately after, went about making up false stories, being a lying tool for the devil and trying to get me into disputes with you.

And I asked you if Joseph kissed Jacob his father as Jamal kisses his men?
Did Apst Paul said the brethren shd suck at the tongues of fellow men as you do your Gay partners?
^^^^ you jumped over this and acted like you didn't see it. Pls I'm still waiting to hear you, your Gayness.

MuttleyLaff:
I have better things doing and havent got time for you. Respond to this post and you'll be talking to a wall

Yes, I know how busy your Gayness is. Can't I see how busy you are jumping into every homosexual thread falsifying Scriptures to earmark the validity of your Gay habit?

You are so busy, pls your gayness, while at your busy schedule do not forget to keep mentioning me.

MuttleyLaff:
You could have fooled me

Beaming, as if like the cat that got the cream
It's good for some sha, isnt it. I sincerely and truly am happy for your and madam, that you are able to be participants in the creational order, I pray you dont shoot blanks when at it, and hope you arent a 45 seconds man. Anyway enjoy the happy "la petite mort"

Now, just meanwhile, spare a long thought for infertile couples and particularly, same sex couples, whether female and female or male and male, these of course, as usual, is referring to consenting adults in a same sex caring, kind, loving, trusting, faithful, helpful, committed life long until death do them part same sex relationship you are excluding from similar intimacy benefits with each other, you are enjoying with someone else, that's Madam, that you love

I warn you TV01 and that Shepherd00, who correctly should be addressed as Goatherd00, that you'll both incur the wrath of God, if yall dont repent of your error of judgment and misinformation, on the true matter with homosexuality.

You'd ve cheered him on if he was gay and was going to commit abomination with another man, but here you are wishing he shoots blanks and be as unproductive as you are right? Sorry, 'Go into the world and Multiply shall work for him surplusly.

See how hard it is to pretend to be a godly person?

We who stand by the Word of God will incur the wrath of God while your Gayness will be blessed of God nde? By the way, am I no longer a closet gay?

Well this is your lot;

Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Let the Word and the Spirit of God be our Witnesses.

I'm waiting for your Gayness's response.

MuttleyLaff:
I already did, it's not my fault, if you find it challenging putting effort in reading other people's posts.

Idle hands people everywhere, to be the devil's workshop. Nothing wey Musa no go see for gate. Please carry go with your bad energy and stop distracting me. OK?

Post out my lies pls.


Your Gayness.

Shepherd00 :
I said this;
Maybe if you were straight or Homophobic,you'd ve understood what I mean. I watch empire I say Jamal and his men, I see them kiss themselves and I wonder if they are humans. It is sickening to say the least.


And you hedonistic Muttleylaff, responded with this;

" Then Joseph fell on his father's face, and wept over him and kissed him. "
- Genesis 50:1
" Greet one another with a kiss of love Peace be to you all who are in Christ "
- 1 Peter 5:14
" All the brethren greet you. Greet one another with a holy kiss. "
- 1 Corinthians 16:20
I tell you, you're more confused than a chameleon dropped into a bag of skittles. C'mon, it is to you unhuman, for men to kiss each other now, hmm? SMH. Please tell what sign did Judas give to betray Jesus, huh?


MuttleyLaff, tell me how I lied against you. You just justified homosexuality with your post, and even dared to use the Patriarchs for it. My God!!!!!
When you call me a lair, I expect that you point out my.lies. Or, maybe you believe that by calling me thus, I'd become one. lol.
What lies did I tell Muttley?


MuttleyLatff will you respond to this? You no dey shame?

Abeg sombori shd borrow some shame make I shame unbehalf of this man.

MuttleyLaff:
"²³Now if a boy can be circumcised on the Sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken,
why are you angry with me for healing a man’s whole body on the Sabbath?
²⁴Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly."
- John 7:23-24

VBCampaign, you have time and this kind of grace, to say something in reply back to this accuser of the brethern, who is a tool in the devil's hand and toying around with unrighteous judgement

You can see him adding all sorts to his judgement queue and beginning to judge hypocritically. This chap, Shepherd00, could have knocked me over with a feather that he doesnt fart. OK, given that he does fart, then his fart doesnt smell at all then, it never smells, as it has a deodorized good smell to it, abi, isnt it?

Note John 7:23-24 above VBCampaign and look at Shepherd00 real good, look at him properly, he is a wolf in sheep's clothing, only seeking to hurt and devour another, see how he is trying to annihilate you, trying to bite you, trying to cut you down to size with accusations. That's all because he is being true to his nature. Note it that, just because pesin follow, dey behind Jesus, no mean say dat pesin be disciple ooo.

VBCampaign, do you at all understand and know why Shepherd00 behaves and brazenly talks as he does, it's because he is inspired from still following the law of sin and death.

What does Romans 8:1-2 say?
It states that:
"¹There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
²For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. "

There is no law against love VBCampaign. Guess what, there actually is no law against homosexuality too. So homosexuality CAN'T be a sin then, because sin is the transgression of the law. Guess what again, as believers, we aren't even under the law anymore, as seen in Romans 8:1-2 above, to be in a position of demonising and persecuting each other with it, the manner and/or way, the likes of how them Shepherd00, TV01, jesusjnr, elated177, Agrogbeide etcetera do with same sex couples in a trusting, caring, loving, faithful and committed life long till death do apart relationships.

1 Timothy 1:7, says of them: "They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm" Why does the inexcusable Shepherd00 look at the speck in a brother's eye, but fail to notice the beam in his own eye, huh? Like I earlier said, Shepherd00 doesnt fart and/or his fart doesnt smell, if at all he does fart

I can go on, but will leave the rest for my much waited response to TV01

Homosexualist and Hedonistic MuttleyLatff disprove these scriptures, verse by verse and say what you believe they say. Don't run o.

Romans 1:18-32

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Hedonistic Muttley. Pls respond to the bolded. What does the Holy Spirit mean?

Let me help you out.
1. What is uncleanliness, and how can we dishonour bodies?

2. What are vile affections?

3. Why is what women do with each other called unnatural?

4. Men and men working that which is unseemly? Why is what they do referred to.as Unseemly?

5. Why does it say they will receive a recompense in their error?

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, [b]God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient
MuttleyLatff, doe the above verse refers to homosexuals or straight folk?

Why is SSM inconsistent?

Enough of jumping from thread to thread making noise. Settle down and show yourself.

MuttleyLaff:
Where in the Torah specifically sir?

"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire"
- Jude 1:7

I took the liberty to help you reproduce Jude 1:7 to be seen above, because I know you know what it means to give oneself up to fornication or the meaning of the statement: I am guilty of fornication. That was what is part of Sodom's sin sire, aside being unfriendly and unwelcoming towards people.

"49Behold, this was the iniquity (i.e. the sin) of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
⁵⁰And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. "
- Ezekiel 16:49-50

Furthermore, from Ezekiel 16:49-50 above, you can see why Sodom and Gomorrah was earmarked for destruction, this in fact, before they even embarked on their gang rape adventure, lusting after strange flesh and having unnatural desires. Na pesin wey get liver, who go wan try go fairk angels nau, no bi so? Which kind of desire be dat. Who does that?

SMH, I just love and enjoy it when I find you guys, TV01, shepherd00, elated177, jesusjnr, Agrogbeide etcetera, without minding the context, start to proof-text with Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:25-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10, its hilarious but at this juncture, I am not, now, going to here, waste any amount of time or effort responding to any of these your above presuppositions. I will however call you, mention you and invite you over, when I respond to TV01, he shares similar SMH misinformations with you.

Pornography harms and hurts if you're lusting after the object you're oggling at. Masturbation harms and hurts if its abused and/or misused. Bestiality harms and hurts defenceless and helpless animals , besides that, who in their right mind does that, fairking animals, huh? Dont try and twist this thing, tell what is the wrong use of God's gift you are rabbiting on about?

Your anus shd be jealous of your mouth for all the shit that spews out of it. You are doing a good job falsifying Scriptures. You are a thief sir. Thou shall not steal.

Ubenedictus:
that person wasn't sincere to tell you that torture was considered legal in all medieval courts in the medieval times and that both, Catholics, protestants and Anglicans used it in their courts and in all countries.

The person also wasn't sincere to tell you that it is only in the church courts that certain torture was banned and when used only limitedly. He also didn't tell you that the clergy in the church court were also prohibited from administering torture and when used by others in a church court it must be in the presence of a doctor who is to certify that the torture does not maim and to make sure not a single drop of blood is spilt and only in cases where guilt has already been firmly established beyond reasonable doubt.


Ofcourse protestants in the medieval times also used torture and so did every European state, the only difference is that they did not have the prohibition and guidelines the Catholic Church had to prevent excessive suffering.

So which is satanic.?

Your last paragraph spoiled the whole argument you tried to raise. For you to say 'The Protestants also..., means the Catholic Church did these things but we shouldn't only talked abt the Catholics.

Wow. Blame shifting.

ThothHermes:
Has your account been hacked

What is this

The energy used in typing all of these should be channelled into fashioning your awaited response.


TV01 5

Muttleylaff 0

Don't mind that hedonist.

VBCampaign:
I am pro life and anti Abortion

Okay.
MuttleyLatff supports what ends life on earth, so shd be in support of abortion. He'll tell us that the woman has the right to decide what to do with her life. After she hurts no one by killing the baby she doesn't want.

mrnwas:
For sometime now I've been trying to make just 2 arguments but every body keep saying same thing - You nor well!


Look, I know you really love the bible, in fact  its considered one of the most credible books on earth but may I state here that it doesn't answer some Questions for us today and this is where I think "Common sense" is necessary!

Question Bible couldn't answer;

Where is Cane's wife from?

Is it wrong for Siblings to get married?

For the first Question, we're all aware the bible only made mention of Adam and Eve as the first set of humans to dwell on earth. They by a process of reproduction begot Cane and Later Abel!

Now because of Jealousy, Cane murdered Abel his brother which then means Cane was only in the world with his parents; Adam and Eve

But somewhere in the bible (Genesis 4:1-18), Cane went to the land of Nod (which means Wander) where he met his wife who later bore a son Enoch.

Listen well, it didn't mention the name of the woman but she's from the land of Nod!

In other holy books, her name is "Awan" who is also believed to be A daughter of Adam. By this it therefore means Cane married his sister!

Now that we're certain Cane married his sister Awan, is it wrong for a young man to decide to marry his sister?

Who made the laws prohibiting that?

Now if Cane's story isn't enough to prove my Points, let's go to the time of Noah!

We all know the story of "The great Flood" as found in the bible book of Genesis Chapters 6 - 9 where we were meant to understand Noah built an ark as he was commanded and since people didn't pay him much attention, only himself, sons and daughters in-law made it to the ark and as a result were the only remnants after the great flood.

Understand there were just his sons and their wives only on the Ark. No other survivors from other families!

After the flood, you'll agree with me that there were probably just Noah's family on earth and from these the whole world became what it is today!

Which means we all came out from the lineage of Noah and his sons and daughters in-law...

Who then made the law prohibiting siblings from getting married to one another?

I don't know if anyone understands what I'm talking about here...

Well, I'm just out to make my point, I stand to be corrected as well!

But the truth remains, we're all products of one father one mother - Adam and Eve

Who stopped you from marrying your sister? Have you been having sex with your kid sister and are looking for ways to justify it?

Go.on and ask your father for her hand in marriage.

Shepherd00:
I said this;

Maybe if you were straight or Homophobic,you'd ve understood what I mean. I watch empire I say Jamal and his men, I see them kiss themselves and I wonder if they are humans. It is sickening to say the least.
And you responded with this;

" Then Joseph fell on his father's face, and wept over him and kissed him. "
- Genesis 50:1
" Greet one another with a kiss of love Peace be to you all who are in Christ "
- 1 Peter 5:14
" All the brethren greet you. Greet one another with a holy kiss. "
- 1 Corinthians 16:20
I tell you, you're more confused than a chameleon dropped into a bag of skittles. C'mon, it is to you unhuman, for men to kiss each other now, hmm? SMH. Please tell what sign did Judas give to betray Jesus, huh?

MuttleyLaff, tell me how I lied against you. You just justified homosexuality with your post, and even dared to use the Patriarchs for it. My God!!!!!


When you call me a lair, I expect that you point out my.lies. Or, maybe you believe that by calling me thus, I'd become one. lol.

What lies did I tell Muttley?

MuttleyLatff, bragging kingkong, come and show me where I lied against you.

You are every calling me a lair, but you can't last long enough in one thread to proof anything. You jump around like a headless chicken trying with your blood to defend abomination.

Anus, Warrior.

MuttleyLatff, is chest beating in another Gay thread but has ran away from here where TV has crushed him as with iron fists.

MuttleyLaff:
"... ... MuttleyLaff never runs. He'll be back..."
- Re: An Open Letter To Daddy Freeze By Deji Yesufu by VBCampaign:

"But the LORD is with me to help me like an awe-inspiring warrior.
Therefore those who persecute me will fail and will not prevail over me.
They will be thoroughly disgraced because they did not succeed.
Their disgrace will never be forgotten."
- Jeremiah 20:11

I rather be a honest a.nus warrior than be a pathetic liar, ignoramus and ignoranus but hey, it doesnt really matter, as, if same sex couple consented adults, are female and female or male and male, then I am a warrior for both.

Having arse, by the way Shepherd00, is a beautiful thing. A woman's bacca, booty, rear light, butt or arse is a beautiful body part, especially the talking arse types. The shape of an arse besides being sexy, whether you're male or female, can make or break an outfit. I love my pert arse and my missus' too. The arse, aside her heart and brain, was one of her other bodily parts, that first got me attracted to her. I am a bonafide and certified arse person.

So Shepherd00, one out of my favourite many hecklers and one of the most impatient person that ever trolled NL Religion forum, in your arrogance, you underestimate me because you're unaware of what true power, knowledge and info, I am holding in. Your hubris, temerity and complaining peevishly will be your nemesis, because you are not strong enough to withstand the calm and silence before the storm and trouble ahead of you.

Dont you know that a warrior never vanishes in a distant? What you perceive to be silence Shepherd00, actually is, thunder fiercely rumbling and roaring up hidden inside me. Inexperienced warriors, like to engage head-on, experienced warriors, like to wait Shepherd00, let their opponents expose themselves and/or work themselves into a corner, noose or walk into a dead end

"Waa gburo nigbe hin Shepherd00", loosely translated means "Las, las, you'll hear Shepherd00"

I do what I do Shepherd00, I write on whatever thread because it is the right thing, the right time and right place, at the particular moment to type from. It is the way of the warrrior to behave in those manner(s), besides me typing in this particular thread, that is not just only paining you but is giving you severe pains, actually it gives you the opportunity to have a premonition of tresponent disast won't er coming your way, and indeed served as a sample of what you can expect come your way, unleashed, in the other thread.

Anus warrior get back to the thread. I won't respond to you here.