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KingEbukasBlog:
True. They understand the implications of denying God's existence and they are afraid of that reality. To deal with the fear and soothe themselves and express their intellectual superiority , they take positions to fill the gap left by their lack of belief that are self-refuting and irrational. Brilliant move!

Yes sir. That is correct.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol. I just dropped by to say hi

Hi King.

budaatum:
I know you believe the Scripture you quoted above, but understanding and knowing what it implies, and allowing it to dwell in you and to fuel who you are - absolute zilch where comprehension is concerned

And I have been pleading with you to give me a better understanding of these scriptures and tell me what they imply. How else shd I say it before it sinks?

budaatum:
To the point that I'm almost inclined to open a thread titled Shepherd! Are You Following Jesus With These Your Beliefs!?, just as you opened one very profound thread about my knowing and following Jesus!

I'd be more than happy to oblige you. Pls let it be scriptural. Enough of talking outside the Word

budaatum:
No, you "don't need to live with him to know him". You just need to be able to comprehend what he says. And to be honest, Shepherd, and by your own admission of not often reading responses to your own questions, you really do not qualify to comprehend the abundance of hearts since youm constantly miss that which is spoken by the mouth.

I admitted to you that I don't read the responses to my questions? Where did I do that? And, how do I know what to respond back if I don't read? Lol,

Here I am picking everything from your responses and treat them while you nitpick mine, yet you make that assertion about me. Funny.

Buda, I read all responses posted to me, all. The ones I leave out is deliberate.

I do not comprehend or I do not accept what is posted? which of it?

budaatum:
If you did listen to that which is spoken by the mouth, you'd hear what you yourself speak with your very own mouth and then might you see the abundance of your own heart, which I doubt you ever look at. Or would you claim you reflect at all Shepherd, as in measure yourself with the measure by which you measure others?

You'd wish we left talking scriptures and talk bout ourselves right? No sir. When I opened the thread about you, I did that based on the Word of God, so is this one. MuttleyLaff has been biting off anyone who dares say God hates homosexuality and what is to say he is not? He comes off as a man who feels it's okay to do it as a Christian, so no one shd say anything about it.

Sir, Blackmail me all you want, do whatever it takes to shut me off, it won't work. You are an activist, but you feel it's okay to bite me off, but it's not okay for me to be activists against sin? I call sin what God calls it regardless of whose horse is gourd.

budaatum:
From that which you speak, the abundance of your heart says, no, you don't. I'm suggesting to you.

Whatever Buda, whatever.

budaatum:
I should analyze the scripture that you misquoted?

Please refer to, and kindly inform me, what did the Lord Jesus Christ say to the one who misquoted Scripture to him after he had fasted for 40 days?

Before we go to what Jesus said, kindly rightly quote and rightly analyze the scriptures I misquoted.

budaatum:
No Shepherd, you don't know what you talk about. If you did know, we would see it abundantly in your heart!

So the scriptures I post are from my heart?

Why not disprove them?

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism is defined by atheists as the lack of belief in God/gods. This definition is wrong, but let's assume that its correct for the sake of the message I want to pass in this writeup. So, atheists explain that lack of belief in deities is attributed to a supposed lack of evidence for the existence of deities. And they are rational human beings for not believing in deities yadi yadi yada.

Do you realize that atheists have beliefs in things that have no evidence or subscribe to positions that have no evidence that proves they are true. Positions like materialism (nothing exists except matter), naturalism (everything that exists arises from natural properties and causes *this position is self refuting*), positivism (another self-refuting position lol), skepticism (yet another position that is self refuting... Oh dear... This is getting embarrassing ) the list is endless.


Some believe that aliens exist (without any evidence), other minds apart from theirs exist (without a sound philosophical argument to support this notion). Some subscribe to nihilism (without evidence to prove that life is meaningless, that there is no transcendent reality and death is the ultimate end) etc


This is juicy part, pay close attention. If they can subscribe to belief systems or take philosophical positions that are self refuting, not proven to be true, and are comfortable doing so, why don't they extend this to God Why do they lose their minds when it comes to believing in God? Why are they so uncomfortable with the belief in God but not with naturalism which logically refutes itself or with materialism which is ancient and ridiculous? Stephen Hawkins, an atheist and like every other atheist believe aliens exist, and would even subjugate mankind and destroy ou it's r civilisation if they ever find us. But there isnt evidence that such intelligent extraterrestrial living beings exist. And he claimed he had good reasons to believe they exist. Oh wait, don't theists have and have presented good reasons why God exists? What, are we missing here? You are smart and super smart for lacking belief in God but obdurately take positions that are self refuting, irrational and unproven. Take your time, if you have to, to cachinnate at the glaring contradiction.

It will say it's because they wish to get away with their sin and not stand Judgement before God. But, alas, dats nat gonna happen

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism is defined by atheists as the lack of belief in God/gods. This definition is wrong, but let's assume that its correct for the sake of the message I want to pass in this writeup. So, atheists explain that lack of belief in deities is attributed to a supposed lack of evidence for the existence of deities. And they are rational human beings for not believing in deities yadi yadi yada.

Do you realize that atheists have beliefs in things that have no evidence or subscribe to positions that have no evidence that proves they are true. Positions like materialism (nothing exists except matter), naturalism (everything that exists arises from natural properties and causes *this position is self refuting*), positivism (another self-refuting position lol), skepticism (yet another position that is self refuting... Oh dear... This is getting embarrassing ) the list is endless.


Some believe that aliens exist (without any evidence), other minds apart from theirs exist (without a sound philosophical argument to support this notion). Some subscribe to nihilism (without evidence to prove that life is meaningless, that there is no transcendent reality and death is the ultimate end) etc


This is juicy part, pay close attention. If they can subscribe to belief systems or take philosophical positions that are self refuting, not proven to be true, and are comfortable doing so, why don't they extend this to God Why do they lose their minds when it comes to believing in God? Why are they so uncomfortable with the belief in God but not with naturalism which logically refutes itself or with materialism which is ancient and ridiculous? Stephen Hawkins, an atheist and like every other atheist believe aliens exist, and would even subjugate mankind and destroy our civilisation if they ever find us. But there isnt evidence that such intelligent extraterrestrial living beings exist. And he claimed he had good reasons to believe they exist. Oh wait, don't theists have and have presented good reasons why God exists? What, are we missing here? You are smart and super smart for lacking belief in God but obdurately take positions that are self refuting, irrational and unproven. Take your time, if you have to, to cachinnate at the glaring contradiction.

Resurrection! Resurrection!! Resurrection!!! KingEbukasblog is back. Wow.

Muttleylaff:
If only more christians, properly read their bibles, there'd be less christians.

I know right? IF supposed Christians will read their Bible precepts upon precepts, statutes upon statutes, line by line and take it within context, they'll be less charlatans parading as Christians

Muttleylaff:
Dont be daft, its a figure of speech, it is not meant to be taken literally

Don't be dumb, I know. But still stuck it to you anyways.

Muttleylaff:
I said let me know when you've woken up

You are the guy is slumbering because all the scriptures I post fly over your head.

TREAT THEM FOR A CHANGE

Muttleylaff:
You were chief among those badgering me for a response, and I kept telling all of youse, that when its up, I'll mention and notify youse of where its at. Trust an impatient Shepherd00 person, play differently than a more patient person and impatiently go open up a rogue thread

A rogue thread? lolzzzzz. Wow this guy. You seem to think that because the world is tending towards gays everyone can be bullied into do things your way.

I opened this thread asking you questions, and like I said, you'd either answer those questions here or you don't. I won't treat them anywhere else. If I respond to you in your thread, it won't have anything to do with what I asked you here.

Muttleylaff:
You henceforth will be conversing with a brick wall, as I am no longer, here, going to respond to you and any of your questions pertaining to homosexuality or similar, except it is posted and/or asked on the thread whose link is shown below:
https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult

So, far you have not responded to me Muttley, you only respond to others not me.

Which of my questions have you answered? None. So, go I don't care. But only know that now Christians here know who you really represent, because it's not YHWH Almighty.

budaatum:
Perhaps not Paul. Still read the thread Shepherd, Muttley dutily provided it for you!

In other words, I don't know what I'm talking about?

So, why haven't any of you disputed the scriptures I posted to you guys as not talking about homosexuality being a sin?

Pls, I have posted Scriptures, treat them. Tell me what they mean. Maybe I'm literally using them, but inwardly, they mean something else.

budaatum:
Context in lying? No. I don't.

No, context is in using other scriptures to explain others, like I just did. Pls go and analyze Ezekiel 3:18 as I have (within context).

budaatum:
Well, that to me is you lying because you happen to know nothing at all about muttley apart from what he has written and nowhere did he say he was gay.

If you do have evidence do provide it though so I can stop thinking you lie.

What did the Word of God say? Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.

I don't need to live with him to know him.

budaatum:
I highlighted it when I correctly quoted Ezekiel which you misquoted. Please go back and read it.

Also, please explain why you omitted the word you omitted.

I couldn't treat this yesterday. Here I am. Let's look at that verse within context. Remember context is the foundation.

After me, Buda, you will give your own analysis of Ezekiel 3:18 Yes? Fine. here we go.

Ezekiel 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand

When I say unto the wicked,
Who is the wicked Buda?
Can the wicked be your neighbor?
I say yes.
What do You say


Thou shalt surely die;
What is death in this context? It is the eternal separation from the Kingsom of God, not a natural death.
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and ~~the abominable,~~ and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Rev. 21:8 KJV)

Don't you know that evil people won't have a share in the blessings of God's kingdom? Don't fool yourselves! No one who is ~~immoral~~or worships idols or is ~~unfaithful in marriage~ or is ~~a pervert~~or ~~behaves like a homosexual~~will share in God's kingdom. Neither will any thief or greedy person or drunkard or anyone who curses and cheats others.
C.E.V 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Pls Buda, note immorality (fornication) has its own Corner here, unfaithfulness in marriage(adultery) has its. Perversion has its and Homosexuality has its too. So don't mix them up.

and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Have you seen that I am doing what God says I shd do?

PLS PLSSSSSSSSSSS. show me how I lied.




Budaatum pls come over here, this is the post.

paraltero:
I would like a better understanding of what you mean by "pushing it in your face"

Good morning paraltero. Let me begin by asking; are you a believer in Christ Jesus? If Yes, then my respond to you will make sense, if not, then it won't. Be that as it may, here is my answer to you.

By pushing it into my face is forcing me to accept it as right. Not right to the society, but right to God.

paraltero:
because I know most Nigerians that say this just mean "I just have a problem with you being gay and everything it means".

No, I don't have a problem with you being gay. Na me you dey knack? What I have a problem with is a man who calls himself a Christian saying God created people gay even even scriptures state expressly that God detests the act.

MuttleyLaff by all means wants to push scriptures to say what they are not saying to back up sin.

If he insist that God created people Gay and the scriptures that negates it are not really against it, then he shd say what he believes those scriptures to be saying.

paraltero:
Now another question: if you travel to a European or North American country and you're eating eba in public and a white guy walks up to you, visibly angry and accuses you of "pushing" your Nigerian culture in his face and making Nigerian culture look normal, would you be offended?

For what is worth. If I go to a European country and I know that eating Eba in public will offend them, I will not eat it in public. I will not set up organizations and campaigns protesting against them for getting offended at me eating my Eba in public. I'll simply not eat it in public.

I will not walk into their restaurants demanding they prepare Eba for me because I have the right to eat Eba anywhere in the world, and if they don't I call the cops for them.

And, paraltero, the parallel you drew up does not fit into my Op, but I ve answered you anyways.

Listen, I am not against homosexuality because it hurts me personally, no. and the Europeans or the North Americans you mentioned did not create the world so cannot decide what happens where.

If The Almighty God says Homosexuality is wrong, then it is wrong whether or not the Europeans and Americans like it. They are but tenants in God's green earth.

MuttleyLaff:
paraltero, dont mind shepherd00 at all, his unfounding fearmongering, unjustified suspicion and mistrust of other fellow human beings as himself. His paranoia knows no bounds, especially when same sex attraction people are as old as biblical days, as in, talking of periods before the land of Canaan was bequeathed to the Israelites. People who are gay, were few and far between, back then and will continue and always be few and far in between until the end of time.

No one said homosexuals didn't exist belong ago. As a matter of fact Homosexuality is older than man MuttleyLaff. That's becos satan is older than man on earth.

You seem not to get my point. I'm not here trying to trace how old this proclivity has lasted, I'm here to tell you that God has been against it ever since just like he has been against idol worship, stealing and murder.

Evil is older than man on earth. Before Adam drew his first breath, satan was here with his model of how his kingdom shd be programmed. If you think you have said anything reasonable here, you have not.

MuttleyLaff:
Besides that, heterosexuality is always the norm and about 95% of the human race is heterosexual, so no panic, no cause for alarm about as he put it: "we will begin to have problems when they try to push it to my face and make it seem like it's alright, I shd accept their Uncleanliness because it's godly." sic

What do you mean by 'always the norm?'. Did God create some people gay and some Heterosexual, but men on their own chose to be more Heterosexual than homosexuals?

If your answer to this is Yes, then pls tell me why God didn't create 4 men and 1 woman, or 4 women and 1 man. MuttleyLaff God was against homosexuality from Eden and is still against it today.

MuttleyLaff:
paraltero, ask shepherd00 what "uncleanliness" specifically is he rambling about and watch him mutter an indefensible answer.

MuttleyLaff Uncleanliness is any act you will engage in that will so repulse God to the point where He gives up on you and declares you a reprobate.

MuttleyLaff pls do well to tell me what the Holy Spirit really means by the following;

Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
MuttleyLaff have you seen that Uncleanliness is dishonouring yourself with a fellow man or woman?


Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto ~~~vile affections~~~:
What are vile affections Muttley?

for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
paraltero and MuttleyLaff the Holy Spirit says what women and women do to themselves sexually is against Nature and no North American man can change it.

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

MuttleyLaff men leaving the natural use of women but burn with lust for each other shall receive due recompense for their error.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

The Holy Spirit here says these category of men do not retain God in their knowledge, hence they are thrown out of God's scheme of things.
Romans 1:24-28

MuttleyLaff, pls give your own understanding of Romans 1:24-28. I'm waiting.

MuttleyLaff:
Sexual acts, that, whether its heterosexual or homosexual, requires cleaning up before and after. SMH

is this your understanding of what God means by Uncleanliness? Do you think He means taking a bath after sex? No sir. Within the context of Rom 1:24-28 it means homosexuality.

MuttleyLaff, why Haven't you responded to this yet? You claim I ran scared, but here you are dodging my posts. Pls respond to this Mr chest beater

MuttleyLaff:
It is because the masquerades and the entire villagers are assembled in the market square for the dance and not in your back yard

Oh well, I happen to be a Christian and not an ancestor worshiper. I don't do masquerades. What I do, i do here in the open not hiding behind masks.

MuttleyLaff:
I guess, you will trash the living day light out of me, in your dreams, right? Tell me, when you wake up, OK?

You can try responding to my question one at a time and watch me break your little empty chest you've been beating all around. Come on Muttley.

MuttleyLaff:
Wishful thinking. I am sorry at your miscalculation. You dont miss a trick, do you, you've latch on to using my line now, havent you?
Bring them all on, bring them all to the below thread link, and watch how I'll tear them apart into smithereens.
https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult

You can try and find out how miscalculated I am by answering my questions.
I should bring it all on? I have done so already by opening this thread that you try to evade, yet come in here to respond to other posts but won't touch the Op.

Using your line? lol. I opened this thread and either you respond to me here or you don't, but if you are not scared of the world discovering how hypocritical you truly are, you'd suck it up and answer my questions.

Why did God design Homosexuality?

budaatum:
And here is you making allegations you have no evidence for, which is bearing false witness which again is lying!

You might recall that I too accused you of it when we discussed. You tend to do it a lot Shepherd that I can only presume that you know not that which you do.

I will say it again, Muttleylaff is gay and he knows we know it.

I'm waiting for the scriptures I distorted

budaatum:
You distorted scripture by removing a key word Shepherd. That is lying.

Do you by any Chance understand what context is?

budaatum:
You distorted scripture by removing a key word Shepherd. That is lying.

Which is?

budaatum:
[b]Did Paul not say something about those who qualify to preach, Shepherd? Does that qualification include those who themselves do not understand themselves? [/b]You stand their justifying yourself and yet you accuse others of justifying sin, Shepherd?! Or are you so blind that you do not see that which you yourself do?

How do you know Jesus would not, for reasons known to him, forgive the sinner? Did he not forgive a thief whom the world had condemned to death on the cross next to him?

Buda, I need the bolded treated. I need to see the verses were Paul talked about the qualification of those who shd preach the gospel.

Who are those who preach but didn't understand themselves?

budaatum:
When I say to a wicked person, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. Ezek 3:18

When muttley calls you a liar now you'd be jumping up and down! Did Ezekiel tell you to stone your neighbour to dissuade them after you have warned them and they have told you to go fuq yourself, they want to continue in their sin, Shepherd?

Do you believe God will hold you accountable for the sins of others after you have warned them?

Budaatum, pls I need the bolded dealt with. How did I lie?

MuttleyLaff:
You are invited to below then:
https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult#78957869

And what is wrong with responding to him here?

MuttleyLaff:
This just reminds me, doing security guard work, back in the days, when this unfit looking and chubby geezer, one bright sunny afternoon, walked up to the secluded portacabin, where I was stationed at, in this business industrial units estate, poked his head in, and said something to the effect that, would I be interested and consent to us doing it together and that I'll handsomely be paid for the bother. I told him, in no uncertain terms, its not my kind of thing and so therefore where to sling it

First, only and last, I had a homosexual hit at me. Touch wood.

You can come in here to respond to other posts but won't respond to my post right? Can you tell me why?

Is it because you know I will trash the living day light out of you?

I have a tone of questions you have evaded, but don't worry, people are reading, they'd come into their own conclusions.


Liar. Homosexuality is written all over you, try as you may to lie to yourself that people won't notice, we see it.

budaatum:
You are making it sound as if I joined them!

I did not "refuse to warn them" Shepherd. I warned them, then they told me to fuq off, so I said, "Peace of the Lord" to them and dusted their dust off me as I left their presence.

After all, as I've told you, when they poke their pokers in poo my own poker will not poo. Or do I need to explain that to you?

They told you to go fuq yourself so you felt, homosexuality is great after all so you became their activist?

See, Buda, I don't really care where they poke their poker, but I care about them trying to pass it as normal and accuse God saying they were made that way.

God didn't create anyone with sin. No one is created a thief, a liar, a paedophile, a rapist or a murderer, how then can God create people homosexuals then turn around and condemn them? That is not God's character. God does not say yes and mean no.


As far as I'm concern, homosexuality is Satan's version of sex pattern.

He opposes every of God's design. God says right, he says left. God says do, he says don't. God says yes, he says no.

God says truth, he says lie, God says light, he says darkness.

God says male and Female sex, he says male and male sex.

Satan is anti everything God says yes to.

Everyone who supports homosexuality is anti-God's design.

nnamdiosu:
As the baby I was watching came out, another angel appeared with a golden book. The book was two in one. One part had writings in gold. Another part was empty.


The angel gave the book to the three guardian angels of the baby. The voice besides me again said, " the writings in that book are hose are prophecies and fantastic plans of God for that baby".
When the guardian angels took the book, one opened it while the others eagerly looked inside. I couldn't see what they saw but they shouted for joy as they flipped through. They were so happy with what they saw inside. Even I was smiling too. I was happy seeing their faces.

I saw that the moment the angels took the book, one started writing every single thing the baby did. I noticed this was the same with all babies in the hospital ward.

I looked at the baby. It was so promising and full of life. I felt greatness and lots of potential in the baby. I saw destiny, purpose and a plan I knew this baby was created for greatness.
But something struck me as I gazed at the baby. By now the baby was crying , while people were congratulating the parents.
As a family member carried the baby, I saw an identical birth mark in the babies hand, exactly where I have mine. I was a bit confused.

It was when the crying baby looked at me, and our eyes jammed that it occurred to me who the baby was.

No wonder Jesus felt pain before he carried me from hell. No wonder he spoke like I had wasted potential.

No wonder he was hurt that I had spent my life selfishly and ignorantly, living for only myself.

For the baby in front of me, the baby with so much potential and greatness, the baby that made even the angels smile...was ME. I HAD JUST WITNESSED MY OWN BIRTH.

Wow. this is great. Keep it up Bros.

budaatum:
I don't see any love whatsoever, despite your attempt to make out homosexuality is some abstract word without a living human being behind the act.

If you care so much, go preach it to a homosexual, and when they tell you to go fuq yourself, stone them and then let's discuss how much love you have for them!

Hmmm. Buda calm down. You don dey vex.

If you love your neighbor as you keep mouthing yet refuse to warn them against something which will ultimately destroy them for fear of being told to go fuq yourself, then you don't love them.

And, yes, homosexuality is practiced by homosexuals, and me saying my case is with the act not with those who commit it, is for them to see that I don't hate them. I only point them to the sin in what they do, hoping they'd have a change of mind and repent.

But, if by doing so I will have my head bit off as you guys are attempting to do here, I won't feel bad because before God, my part is done.

budaatum:
Why should he? Does it make an ounce of a difference? Or should he too distort scripture like you do to justify himself?

I distort scriptures? Like which one?

budaatum:
Did Paul not say something about those who qualify to preach, Shepherd? Does that qualification include those who themselves do not understand themselves? You stand their justifying yourself and yet you accuse others of justifying sin, Shepherd?! Or are you so blind that you do not see that which you yourself do?

You can post this verse of Paul let's see it within context. And, I'm justifying myself against who exactly, and who am I accusing?

Buda, did God say homosexuality is a sin or not?

budaatum:
How do you know Jesus would not, for reasons known to him, forgive the sinner? Did he not forgive a thief whom the world had condemned to death on the cross next to him?

How many thieves were with Christ?

What predicated the forgiveness of the other?

Christ died for all manner of sins. If we see them as sins and repent from them, forgiveness is sure, not when we blackmail people and keep them off from telling us the evil in what we do, and justify out sins then, what is left is for us all to await judgement throne.

budaatum:
When I say to a wicked person, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. Ezek 3:18

When muttley calls you a liar now you'd be jumping up and down! Did Ezekiel tell you to stone your neighbour to dissuade them after you have warned them and they have told you to go fuq yourself, they want to continue in their sin, Shepherd?

Where is my lie Buda? And, where did I say anyone shd be stoned? As I remember, the only person who mentions stoning here is you.
I said, if we were to still go by what the Bible says, then homosexuals wld be stoned, but alas, we warm them instead.

Even when I keep saying I don't have a case with homosexuals but the act of homosexuality, you still make it seem like I'm condemning someone, Why?

Who is lying now?

Buda, stop trying to bully me, it won't work, I don't scare easily.

budaatum:
Do you believe God will hold you accountable for the sins of others after you have warned them?

No.
I have a responsibility to shout to the world that the act of homosexuality is an abomination before Him whom we shall all appear to account for how we lived, and if the offenders keep at it, they will be ostracized for eternity, but you and Muttleylaff are trying to shut me up, but that won't work.

MuttleyLaff:
Homosexuality by scripture works in tandem with the love of the Christ preached.

Shouldn't you be backing up these with scriptures?

budaatum:
I cannot even prove to you that God created me and you, so what's my problem exactly Shepherd? The Word does say though that all things were created by God, but that's a belief I guess, and not something I claim to know.

Then we shouldn't be having this discussion.

budaatum:
What I do I know is you are my neighbour, and I should love you even after I warned you and you've told me to fuq off, and by the Grace of God, I try.

I keep saying it's not about the homosexuals, but homosexuality as an act. I don't hate homosexuals, that doesn't mean I shd love their acts.

Buda, what I'm doing here is showing love for my neighbors. If I don't care, I'd let them enjoy their sin in ignorance and face God later. And, you know that ignorance is not an excuse before God.

budaatum:
Chai Shepherd! I thought you were a Christian, yet, see the taliban in you coming out!

Like I said, when I preach Jesus Christ "let those without sin stone" to this your "stoned to death" God, which it seems I need not bother doing actually because God does not stone anyone.

In fact.....

.....Muttley! Your argument should not be trying to justify homosexuality by scripture! You should instead be teaching Shepherd, with Scripture, the love of the Christ he says he believes in!

You forgot to treat this.
When your neighbor is cut in sin and you fail to warn him or dissuade him from his sins in order to save his life not, he will die in his sins, and i will hold you accountable to his sins Ezek 3:18

You cannot preach what the gospel is against and say you are preaching the gospel.

Preaching the gospel is calling sinners out of sin. Buda, you are misrepresenting the gospel. Jesus forgives sin not justify it.

He said to the Woman who was caught in sin 'Go and sin no more'. Jesus didn't tell her it's okay to continue in adultery becos He loves her.

And, I have a case with MuttleyLaff because he say he is a Christian and claims homosexuality is godly, not becos he is a moralist. If he were just a moralist, i won't bother with him