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iamdrfresh:
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called a Religion.
Robert M. Pirsig,

I went to a friend's room on campus yesterday but he wasn't around... Met 3pastors( campus fellowship) in his room instead- they were all listening to a message (I don't know the preacher).

The preacher said "People can be really stupid. Imagine someone bringing materials together and making a statue in order to worship it."

They all started laughing. It was obvious they were happy thinking they've caught rhema(revelation).

But then I thought worshipping a being you've not seen or heard from; but only read about in books is delusional and plain stupid.



Idolatry: 'the worship of a physical object as a god'

For religion, it's simply d worship of an imaginary image/object/person which is just a thin line away from Idolatry.
I call it Mental Idolatry.

CC
OAM4J
LALASTICLALA
FYNESTBOI
mynd44

Is Jesus a person or not?

sarrki:
Say To the righteous It is well

How do you know that is a Church to begin with?
And, are you a Christian now?

famouscargo4u:
my number is right in my signature below. Here it is 08062470912

I got it, you can remove it.

famouscargo4u:
we have tractors, caterpillars hilux vehicles, tippers, etc. They are located in Asaba

Okay. I will take your number and contact you.

famouscargo4u:
We have a lot to sell. Whatsapp or call me.

To WhatsApp or call you, I will need your number

famouscargo4u:
We have a lot to sell. Whatsapp or call me.

Your base? And pls specify what you have.

Machines, Makes or brands, capacity, models.

bluebay:
Where in south south are you based .. WhatsApp me on

Remove your number from the net pls

bluebay:
Where in south south are you based .. WhatsApp me on 08025191567

Okay.

budaatum:
What enlightened people the Finnish must be. Some people in some countries would be blinded to his achievements and stone him instead whilst adoring those who rob them and sell them as slaves!

You call it enlightenment and hail him, Jesus calls it Sin and abomination and frowns at it.

Rom.1:32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
The Holy Word of God will never change no matter how much you guys try to falsify it.

kunleweb:
Interesting

Yes it is. Happy Sunday to you.

If you own or knows someone who owns, or some place where we can get Scrap Machines for sell, send me a mail.
We need Old:
1. Dredgers.
2. Tractors.
3. Bulldozers
4. Vessels.
5. Trucks
6. Lorries
7. Vehicles
8. Oil Mill Factory Tools.

If you are based in the South South, Or South East, pls PM me.


Cheers

ikorodureporta:
What's the average amount you drop for offering in the Church??

Are you suppose to tell?

justcool:
Evidence, Please! First of all who are "you guys"? Please can you show me evidence where "someone who seemed to really know about you guys and in-depth questions to ask came up, all of you bailed her?"

'You guys' meant you and your Cross bearers lot. those who were answering questions in that thread.

By evidence you mean I shd copy and paste the questions Noteasy posted to you guys?

justcool:
My friend there is no need to resorting to false accusations. I answer questions about the Grail Message from serious seekers who genuinely wish to approach God and live according to God's will. I am not here to indulge in any type of religious fights

I am not fighting you o. I only asked why you didn't answer Noteasy's questions. You see, i see in the manner you calmly respond to questions that you are indeed a cool person, you shd have coolly answered her. No matter how fierce fire is, it's water that puts it out, but you didn't.

justcool:
Show me just one instance where Noteasy or anybody asked a serious question about the Grail message and I bailed. The thread in question is still there, you can copy and paste. Show me where I called on Myn to ban Noteasy or anybody on nairaland? Again, why resort to lies?

Justcool nah. did you respond to one single post Noteasy made in that thread?

Lolzz. So it was a coincidence that myn44 showed up, warned Noteasy to stop posting in the thread then puff, she disappeared? I may have reported her. lol.

justcool:
If you think you can come here and start a religious battle or religious comparisons than you have another think coming. If you have serious questions about the Grail, I will offer you my perception. Otherwise, you're wasting your time. You will not drag me to the level of angry outbursts, false accusations and mockery. Here we are dealing with very serious issues, (What can be more serious than that concerning God); hence if you can't show any form of objectivity, please stay aloof.

Ha. Na only question I ask o. Why this out bust nah? I used to perceive you as a very calm and in control person. Why this nah?

This is a public domain and whatever you post here shd not be for only those who believe in what you believe, or who are Seekers, but for those who are not. You sound smart in for that reason I expected that you'd know this. If a question is asked, and you have answers answer with decorum if not pass, instead of starting a fight but make it seem like the enquirer is the enemy.

justcool:
How do any of the above help you understand life and God better? How do they help you approach God better? Or How do they help your spiritual life? Abdrushin brought the Grail message, which clearly points out the will of God and the way to Paradise, our true home. It is not a book of mysticism about who any individual is or was in various earth lives. When a postman delivers you a mail, you don't start him who he was yesterday and what he did yesterday, even before examining the mail. Like a mailman, Abdrushin brought His message from God to mankind, those that are genuine seekers seek the message. They don't start by asking who the mailman was in his past life. The Grail message is not a personality cult around Abdrushin.

This is another thing you guys evade from answering. You wouldn't talk about Abdrushin. Why?
Everyone who started a religion had an history behind them and their message reflects who they were or are.

Their message must be seen in their lives first because he cannot bring a message to others and fail to exhibit what he brought.

It will not be right to only talk about a message leaving out the messenger. For instance, Moses who brought the law of Jehovah to the Islraelites asked to know about Jehovah when He accosted him at the burning bush. 'Who are You?' was Moses question. Did God say to him, just go and say the Israelites to take the message and not bother with the messenger? No. God introduced Himself to Moses.

Moses brought the law, his credentials are here for a to see. And if what he wrote did not affect or portray his personal life then there's something there.

Jesus of Nazareth who you guys are fun of quoting, introduced Himself and lived his message.

Muhammad of Arabia brought Islam, his story is here and he lived his message. If you engaged a learned muslim, you get answers to your questions.

What about Charles Tass Russel of The Watch Tower?
Or Joseph Smith of the LDS?
Why shd Oscar's case be different?

Abdrushin preached REINCARNATION, he said he who Oscar at the time, knew that he was Abdrushin in his former life and he knew his work on earth, he went about doing it. He died, he ought to reincarnate again abi?

My question is, has he? As What or who this time? where is he?
It will be wrong to point me away from this sir. This is very important to those who want to be Seekers.
If I was a German in my last life, but I am now a black African, and I'm dead, I must be someone else nah.

Okay, you here, Who were you in your former life?

justcool:
Don't be like the Pharisees who, rather than seriously examining Jesus's message, were asking: "Weren't you a carpenter?" or "Are you not the son of a carpenter?"

Oh Lawd!!!!. Pls nah, don't be like this. This is not the same case pls. The Pharisees asked that with spite, but I only asked becos I don't really know. Pls clarify me. Who were you in your past life?

justcool:
Also, Genuine adherents of the Grail message don't go about begging or preaching to people to accept the Grail message, such would be casting peals before swine. Rather it is people that come after us seeking. And we answer when we feel the seeker is genuine.

Here is another thing. You bring your Message to a Public forum, yet you want only the genuine adherents to be part of. So your thread is only for Seekers? Lol. You are here looking for converts yet you pretend. When you met me, didn't you act like you had met a new convert? You quickly sent me a link hoping you jump on board. lol.

And, @Justcool, pls stop quoting the Bible. Someone asked you if you believe in the Bible, you said No. that your Message comes directly from God. Quote your Grail.

justcool:
You said you are Christian, then if your religion fully satisfies your desire for God; then stay with it and leave the Grail message alone.

What have I done here that suggest I'm doing something against the Grail Message?
Seriously, this is surprising.
WTH? Was I wrong to ask a simple question? So, if an unbeliever in Jesus asks me about the immaculate Conception of Jesus, instead of answering him, I shd attack and push him off, telling him to go enjoy is unbelief? Na wao.

justcool:
Again, I'm neither a mystic nor do I practice occultism. The Grail message warns against such. I'm simply a man who strives to live according to the Grail message, which is the original message Jesus Christ, the son of God once brought to mankind. I'.

Where is this coming from pls? I never said you were an occult nah.
Oh, the Grail Message is the Original Message of Jesus Christ?
Now you are making me ask questions I didn't want to ask before.
So, do you believe that He died to save you from Sin?
Do you believe in salvation through Jesus' finished works on the Cross, and not by your good deeds?

Are you expecting His return to resurrect His saints to take them with Him to Heaven.

Did Jesus reincarnate? to who or what? Is He a reincarnated soul today somewhere in the world?

How can you preach Jesus and preach reincarnation at the same time?

You mentioned Paradise, do you know that according to Jesus Paradise is not Heaven but a place were souls are kept to await resurrection?

justcool:
i'm simply a servant of God; I don't go digging into my past life because such is mysticism and does not fascinate me, my only fascination is to stand presently in the will of GOD

Do you realize you just called your Master Abdrushin a mystic? He was Oskar Ernst Bernhardt from Germany. He went digging into his past life and came up with his past life as Abdrushin from Tibet. You believed him.

You believe in the reincarnation which he taught. you believe in the Massage he brought, yet you can not tell who you were in your past life because that will be going into occultism or mysticism.


By your attestation, You Justcool, the Cross Bearer of the Grail Message just declared Oskar Ernst Bernhard aka Abdruahin a mystic and an Occult

I didn't say it, you did.

newness101:
@shepard00



@ Shepard00

Im a seeker who has found the Grail message worthy to live by and I oppened this thread to humbly ask the ever-ready-to-help justcool to help me with some clearification about the Grailmessage. Please dont derail this thread. This is not a tread for people to come and fight and insult. This tread is about the Grailmessage so if your questions are not about the Grail message please stay away. Can we have a peaceful tread for once please.


You asked about the Grailmessage and Eckanker, justcool answered about the Grail message and refferd you to Ectenker people for infor about Eckanker, as well as other threads about the Grail message. You came back with accusations in defence of Noteasy. Ive read that thread many times. Noteasy asked questions about the Grail message to wich justcool clearly answered. Then she hijacked the thread by posting bible verses upon bible versers and started aguements about the bible. Do you expect justcool to start dealing with his biblical posts when the tread is clearly about the Grial message??

There are people so mature that you cant drag them to that level. I know this about justcool and m_nwankwo, and I respect that.

Please, once again don't derail this thread, This is about the Grail message.




This is so true about justcool and m_nwankwo. If you not serious they will simple ignor you. LOL

What? Accusation? I accuse him of what?

And are you sure you read that thread? because Noteasy was not responded to.

Well, am not here to fight or anything. I only asked one question which I expected you or Justcool to answer but instead you evaded it and attacked me instead.

It's all about Grail Message that you want people to know about, so why not be patient and explain what is not clear to people? Must I became an adherent before I know what G.M is about?

In that thread, i observed that only people who praised G.M had their questions answered.

Pls answer me this and you won't hear one word from me again.

Has Abdrushin reincarnated? To what or whom? Where in the world is he now?
Pls answer this and I'm gone.

Hello Justcool.
I have gone through the link you sent to me. Thank you.
Initially It seemed like you guys were opened to answer everyone's questions, especially those of the different adherents, but along the line when someone who seemed to really know about you guys and had in-depth questions to ask came up, all of you bailed on her. Why?

Why didn't you all respond to @Noteasy, instead called Myn44 to ban her?

Well, for me reading through that thread I came up with a ton of questions in tune with @Noteasy's, but I feel I'll also not get answers to them so I will them go.

But, pls, answer just this one question.
I read one of you say Oskar Ernst Bernhardt was a reincarnated Abdrushin. Meaning Oskar knew who he was in his former life, so knew what he was to do, hence picked his former name and continued his work.

He is dead right? Long-ago. Has he reincarnated yet? if yes, as who presently? Which part of the world is he living in right now? Does he know he was Abdrushin?


And you, who were you in your past life?

Thanks again.

justcool:
Hi Shepherd00

Thanks for your questions. There is no connection between the Grail message and Ecankar or any other religion, cult, and movements. The writer of the Grail message drew His message straight from the highest source, from God the father. Naturally it will agree with the Truths in others religions and, at the same time, disagree with the falsehoods in them. It is neither a religion, movement, nor cult; it is simply brought to mankind. Anybody, regardless of her/his religion, nationality, race, etc. is welcome to examine the Grail message, provided that she/he is a serious seeker; the writer only demanded the reader/examiner must proceed with objectivity.

A lot of people have asked questions about the Grail message in this forum. Here is one of such treads:https://www.nairaland.com/147092/grail-message/9. Keep in mind that the answers you read on that thread or receive from adherents of the Grail are only their perception. If you are seriously seeking, then you might consider picking up the Grail message and hearing straight from the horse's mouth. I will enthusiastically treat any questions that you have after examining the message.

About Eckanker, I'm not allowed to talk. There are Eckists in this forum, and if you are interested in eckanker you should approach them with your questions.

Thanks and remain blessed.

Thanks so much for taking time to reply me. very kind of you. But, I am a Christian who believe in Jesus Christ as God of the Heaven and earth.

I do not have interest in Eckanker or Grail Message to the point of being a seeker therein, but I like to read, so I read.

I am indeed a Seeker to know the divergences in all these Faiths or Religions, for they are religions whether we admit they are or not.

Before I chose Christianity, I was Seeking in New Age and other philosophies, but I ended up choosing Jesus, for He kept coming up directly or indirectly.

Nevertheless, I will read your link. Thanks.

desiredhome:
Christianity is not by mouth but by action, if all the people claiming to be Christians today are really Christian, Nigeria will be better than USA, unfortunately you see so many evil been carried out in a supposed Church while people like you keep blind eye.

Lol. You can begin by being that very good Christian. no be only one person Jesus say to be a good Christian.

Dencotext:
Thanks for saying it is so much bullshirt! Simply ignore what I wrote, it was an expensive joke! The rapture will occur before the tribulation bros. Relax!

I wish I have the time, I'd have opened up what you typed with S rupture then you see is a load of BS

AutoJoshNIG:
When you think you have seen it all, then another occurs.

Check out this hilarious message displayed on a truck.

What can one say?

But what do you think?

Is jealousy really the last class to attend before becoming a witch?

Drop your opinion in the comment section.


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Source:

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Do you know what fuels the hatred of Islam against Christians and Jews? Jelosy.

Oatmeal was the first born, but God choose Isaac. See what that has cost the world.

Jealousy is witchcraft

Dencotext:
What do you mean by two masters in charge? Though I understand you, remember that JESUS is always in charge of EVERYTHING!

As for why the Church is still here? Just for today only, I wont use the word RAPTURE because I cannot find it in the bible, as sometimes it does not convey the sense I want. There would be the first resurrection. Unlike what pastors do teach on the pulpit it is not going to happen for us to escape tribulation. The bible have repeated severally that no one knows when the resurrection would occur, not even Jesus, only the Father in Heaven. The resurrection is a guarded secret in the BIBLE.

As for my personal opinion, what you guys deemed as the great tribulation it is not. The breaking of the sixth seal and the mighty earthquake, though it is the beginning of a terrible tribulation, it is still not the great tribulation. Of course, even now we are experiencing tribulation of some sorts and it would continue to increase astronomically. The tribulation would build up during the first 3.5 years starting with the sixth seal and when the first trumpet was blown. It would be a series of God judgement/punishment and wake up call for earth. It is not as gloomy as you think, minus the suffering... many people would start repenting and the harvest would be much, and the church would be around till the last trump call, which is the seventh trumpet. The antichrist BEAST would come on the world stage during the sixth trumpet period because the bottomless pit was blasted open by a falling star (meteorite) during the fifth trumpet call, allowing hoard of locusts to escape and torment those that are not saved. It wont harm born again people who have the seal of God... they would be leading those repenting to Christ.

But when the SEVENTH BUT last trumpet was blown by MICHAEL (no time frame was given) the great tribulation would begin; a physical war broke out in heaven. Satan was thrown down to the earth, a sign appeared in heaven of a woman about to give birth. Read Revelation 11:15 down and all through chapter 12. All hell broke lose... the woman born a male son, and fled into the wilderness and satan went to wage war against her offsprings and those that keep the testimonies of Jesus.

I believe with all my heart that the resurrection would only happen where Michael is mentioned in Revelation to collaborate with what Daniel said in Daniel 12: 1 "At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time; but at that time your people shall be delivered, every one whose name shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake..." Noticed that we the saints were still around this period, and the tribulation was cut short for their sake.

And as you may have noticed after all the trumpets were blown, nothing remains other than the seven fiery bowls which is the wrath of God to punish the Beast and all who have accepted the 666 mark. Now I agree that this would be period for the marriage supper of the Lamb in heaven, while the earth is severely punished by the wrath of God through those bowls. In the old, trumpets have always signal warning of an impending war or judgment. So it is the same in the Bible. 1 Corinthian 15: 52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the TRUMPET shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

This is so much BS.

chibuzorAbia:
May your fake God save you. See pain! Cult Ko occultist ni. Poverty and ignorance is worrying you. Do you even know the origin of the printed book you hold so dear?

Yimu.

Obi1kenobi:
Of course "explanations" that make no sense would be wasted on me. What were you expecting before?

Nothing actually. What shd be expected from an empty vessel?

My bad that I wasted my time on you.

Obi1kenobi:
This is sadly the disease of the prosperity gospel and modern Pentecostalism. The worship of money and materialism. You think that anybody that is richer than you is better than you. I feel sorry for you for the level of inferiority complex that must ravage you. That is why it is so easy to manipulate sheep like you with the prosperity gospel and for people like you, tithing is not even an act of love and charity, but basically an MMM-style investment that you expect to reap from after sowing.



And you still can't get it into your head that nobody cares about you. I would only care when I find out you're one of the tithe scammers. Again, nobody gives a flying fucckk if you pour your money into the lagoon. The scammers from the pulpit who prey on the minds of the gullible and impressionable (many of whom are redeemable from their foolishness) and pervert the teachings of Christianity is all we happen to care about.

Satan has already been using the criminals in the pulpit for his grand designs. Why do you think Nigerians are the evilest scum on the earth despite being the most religiously devout? Why do you think poverty continues to ravage the land despite all the prosperity gospel of your pulpit scammers? You think Swiss or Swedish or Norwegian or Japanese or Singaporean people are wealthy because of how much tithes they pay to scammers from the pulpit?

Stop sulking and take L and man up.

Obi1kenobi:
1) The payment of tithes predated the temple.
2) The Jewish faith and covenant is not defined by the existence of a temple or otherwise.
3) Even if the Jewish covenant were defined by the temple, nothing stops them from rebuilding the temple to renew the covenant.
4) Neither Christ, nor his apostles collected tithes. Free will giving has always been the bedrock of the Christian faith.

Again, it is embarrassing that the actual civilization from which your tithing was appropriated, the Jews, do not pay tithes. Yet, some black ass niggas appropriated an ancient, alien Jewish custom that has nothing to do with their faith, just to maximize their fleecing of the gullible flock. A real shame. Embarrassing.

See? I told you that my explanations will be wasted on you. No shaking Sha.

Adakintroy:
Again you reek of knowing it all shame on you

Why shd I be ashamed now?

Adakintroy:
Your kind are quick to quote bible verse because it give you off as vast

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.
Weytin be the bad thing wey I do now?

Adakintroy:
But even the verse you quote you hardly ever know the meaning. Because you are not guided by love.

Hmmm. What did I do that shows I didn't quote the Word with Love?

Adakintroy:
Just need to showoff. I have seen donkeys reel out advice to prophets. This is where many of you are with people like freeze. Not because he knows anything pertaining to the spirit. But because like that certain prophet you your priest do it for the money and it's getting to obvious.

What are you crying about? I don't get a thing you said here. Make some sense.

Adakintroy:
I this debate had never been about paying tithes. But what the men do with the money afterwards.

Why aren't you talking about what your Native Doctors and Occult Masters do with what you give them? Na our money, abi your money follow dey inside?

Adakintroy:
It was there sense of entitlement to tithes that has made people start to change their stand. If tithes is for my good why curse me if I don't pay?

Who cursed you? Jehovah said you inherit a curse if you steal from Him. Take it out with Him not pastors.

Now, getaut

Omonken:
A new Paul for Jesus Christ...
With the old passion with which you destroyed the seeds of Jesus Christ, let that same passion drives you to build for him now.

Amen.

Obi1kenobi:
Ah....na this response I for one hear pass. I wanted to know what leaps of logic you would use to explain why Jews, the actual heirs of the Jewish religion, don't pay tithes, but some black-ass niggas in Africa can appropriate and manipulate ancient Jewish traditions to become tithe observers. I wanted you to tell me how pastors are Levites that you pay tithe to, when Jewish people don't recognize any Levites anymore in their tradition. Of course you didn't bother cos you have nothing to say. You were stumped and decided to run.
Please, come back o......and explain how your pastor is a Levite.

I decided to ignore you because my explanations will be wasted on you. Let me do it anyways.

It's becos their covenant is obsolete. A New covenant with Christ as the Eternal High Priest is on going.

Listen carefully. The Jews can not perform any Priestly duties outside the Temple in the Holy of Holies. According to prophecies the temple was destroyed in 70Ad leaving them without a Temple, making sure the Daily Sacrifices ceases. This prophecy dates back to Daniel.

All their sacrifices were a shadow of Christ as a Sacrificial lamb. Now He has been offered and to keep them from offering anymore sacrifices, Jesus permitted Islam to build a mosque in their Temple site defiling the Holy site.

But, Hebrews 7, 8, and 9 explains and introduces us to a new and a better covenant with Christ as the eternal High Priest and His body, the Church as His Temple.

Hebrew makes us to understand thar, Tithing is a Jesus' Ordinance and Jesus is eternal, that's why He appeared in the person of Melchizedek to Abraham, long before Levite who became a Priest and took Tithes was born.

We Christians are not Jews who must wait for a physical Temple before they can perform their Priestly duties. We are all Priests and Christ only as the High Priest.

When we pay tithes now, we pay to Christ not a man.

****ignored henceforth****

Adakintroy:
This is the problem with you pentecostals. You know too much. Every persons are ignorant.

No, we don't know too much. It's a Comprehension issue. Read again;

Matthew 23:23 You Pharisees and teachers are show-offs, and you're in for trouble! You give God a tenth of the spices from your garden, such as mint, dill, and cumin. Yet you neglect the more important matters of the Law, such as justice, mercy, and faithfulness. These are the important things you should have done, though you should not have left the others undone either.
The Lord says, Justice, Mercy and Faithfulness are most important but that doesn't mean you shd leave the others.

No where did the Lord said we shd stop paying tithe.

Have it your way, no be for me you dey pay for.

Adakintroy:
You have one priest stand on a pupuit and talk not with you but at you for hrs. You sit and listen..no questions ask.

And when you go to your grottos or occult temples you talk and your master listen abi?

Adakintroy:
In the end the man on the altar is foolish because he is not challenge and you are dumber, because you can't ask any brave questions. This pattern of behavior is now so endemic within you that anyone that dares to ask brave questions is frown at or demonize.

I ask you again, when you go to your occult meetings you talk and your masters listen?

Adakintroy:
Even the bible testify of Christ this way.." and he as answer and said..:"

There must have been a question preceeding that or an argument of sort.

Are you high? Sleep it over.

Obi1kenobi:
You are an empty anonymous braggart on Nairaland who has absolutely nothing to brag about - whether yourself or your father. Again, you know nothing about Freeze and what business he runs and what he has. Nothing I've seen about his lifestyle suggests that he is not a wealthy person who lives in affluence. .

A man who is wealthy living in affluence does not cry about not being called for MC jobs. Have you ever heard? Lolzzzzz.

Obi1kenobi:
I don't care myself what he has or doesn't. I don't measure the credibility of people by whether they are as rich as Dangote. I only addressed it here cos I found it silly for some anonymous person on Nairaland to claim Freeze has "nothing to show". That's an ad hominem, and ad hominems are not arguments

See how e pain you. All his insults on others who can employ him as their driver is not enough for you to call him out. He-po-crit that is what you.

Obi1kenobi:
1) Once again, you know nothing about what Freeze does and doesn't. Musicians, actors, OAP's etc often run businesses by the side and only use their employment to maintain a public profile.
.

Why then is he crying that he is broke?� He has not been called for MC jobs, does that speak of a man who runs a business?

Obi1kenobi:
2) Even if he works for somebody at 50, there is nothing to be ashamed of in that. My parents retired as civil servants in their 50's. Majority of people work for somebody and there is dignity in what they do. You reason like a 12-year-old frankly

But I don't see your father attacking people who are better them him. Or, does he?
Let my reasoning not be your business. Your opinions don't count and you don't validate anything here.

Obi1kenobi:
Critics of tithing like Freeze criticize the pastors who manipulate gullible people. I don't give a flying fuucck if you want to dump your money into the lagoon. It's your choice.

This is what we the Sheeples have been saying since the advent of freeze. Na our money why e de pain you?

Obi1kenobi:
Victims have their choice to be victims, but those who run the criminal enterprise must be called out as the criminals they are.
What do you mean by tithing is not compulsory. What are you defining as "compulsory"?

We are the victims, no worry nah. Thanks for your concern, but wait make we come dey beg for food for ya house before you go rant. Until then, get lost.

Satan been trying to run Christians life from Eden.

Chuks9000:
All have sinned and come short of the glory of God...
The day you die (ripe old age by His grace), I hope all you have mentioned above will save you as a Christian.

WTH are you all about?

Maybe you shd tell Freeze to invest in his life than spend all his life trying to pick out specks from the eyes of others when he has a forest growing on his forehead.

gracefilled:
Everything is staring us in the face! His coming, the manifestation of the antichrist...please what do you mean by the first resurrection, according to your post?

The first Resurrection is the resurrection of the Saints to attend the marriage supper of the lamb other wise called 'Rapture'.

Lord God Almighty reigns.19:7Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory! For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready.19:8Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear." (Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the saints

This happens only to those who believe Jesus Christ and kept themselves as His bride.

The second resurrection will involve everyone who had ever lived on this earth, Sodom and Gomorrah will also rise to stand Judgement.

[b] 20:4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

20:5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

20:6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

20:7When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison20:8and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.

20:9They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

20:10And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever

.20:11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.

20:12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.

20:13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.[/b]

Rev. 20: 4-13.

Aceed:
this is serious…this is really serious!

2021…


Decided to share my SPECULATION

I'm a Redeemer/Redeemite, and i remember very well in 2018 when Daddy G.O said that God said "the countdown to the end has started"…

2018 to 2021 is about 3yrs…

If truly nibiru will pass our solar system in 2021, then this could mean that we're in the 3.5years of peace and that also the antichrist has been revealed and we did or didn't know!!!


you guys are welcome to and should chip in your thoughts.

So the AntiChrist is revealed yet the Church is still here? Two masters can't be in charge one Kingdom nah.

What is described up there will not happen while the Church is still here.