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Maximus69:
Whatever!
Thanks for the understanding Sir,just stay out for now and watch how intellectuals discuss without imposing what we were taught on others!

Yeah. That is what we hear everyday. Jehovah's Witnesses walking around spreading errors but acting all proud, patting themselves in the back believing they are the real Christisns who knows the Word more than anyone else, like the Muslims.
lolzzzz.


You wish you were intelligent.

MuttleyLaff:
]Sir, I believe you understand English because you already are typing in English here. I know you totally understood what "Let me turn your request on its head and roll it back to you." meant

But why will you turn my request on my head when you have not answered me? First answer me then you can ask a reversed question.

MuttleyLaff:
The ground wont be able to contain it at all, if I am to tell you the usefulness of homosexuality to human, seeing as God created everything on earth to be useful to both man and the universe, so I will coyly throw the request back at you by asking:

Do not throw the request back at me when you haven't given me one Usefulness of homosexuality.

I hope you know that but for God, (I mean Jehovah, if he had not forbade Homosexuality and other sins), I won't know it's a sin? The way i frown at a criminal becos YHWH says thou shall not steal, the same way I frown at homosexuality because He says not to so it, he detests it.

MuttleyLaff:
1/ Who is Leo Varadkar, and how does Leo Varadkar add to the universe?
2/ Who is Alan Turing, and how did Alan Turing add to the universe and you getting to be using computer, either as on a laptop, PC or smartphone?

Maybe the question shd be 'What did Jehovah say about Alan Turning and Leo Varadkar?

As far as I have read my Bible, I have not come across Jehovah, whether manifested as Jesus or in Spirit say any thing about those two. But if he did, pls let me know, because my Stand is based on what Jehovah said, not on what Turning or Varadkar are.

MuttleyLaff:
Funny thing is, the text homosexuality isnt even in the original Word, because homosexuality is a word that is barely 200 years old

Okay then, don't talk about the Word, talk about the act of homosexuality. Man have sex with a fellow man.

What is the Usefulness of the act of homosexuality to Man, his neighbor and the Universe?

MuttleyLaff:
You are saying what the bible never said. The Battle of Gibeah was instigated by the inhospitality of the people of Gibeah, this lead to a reprisal attack done in retaliation of the ensued wicked, senseless and foolishness acts of the wicked men of the same city. Sodom's sin, we get to know from scripture too, incidentally too, was due to lack of hospitality to strangers etcetera

You mean it was lack of hospitality that made the Angels pull back Lot and struck the men of Sodom with blindness too?
You know, I read this response you gave in a site where a Homosexual man was trying to use the Bible to justify the act.
You are doing the same thing.

Would you sincerely say God is pleased with those engaging in this act?

As I remember, Apst. Paul called it abuse, and those who do it, abusers of themselves.

MuttleyLaff:
i]The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in those who tell the truth.[/i]"
- Proverbs 12:22

And the Lord detest those who falsify His Words. He detest those who called evil good and good evil. And, Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans 1:32

MuttleyLaff:
Shepherd00, God hates liars, so please provide the scripture that backs up what you typed about me needing to be killed for speaking up for homosexualism.

Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

That's it there.

And which lie did I tell? You are the liar here sir. By all means you want to justify evil and cal it good becos you are doing it.

Here is what you claim it's lack of Hospitality which caused Benjamin to almost be erased.
Judges 20:12-13

And the tribes of Israel sent men through all the tribe of Benjamin, saying, What wickedness is this that is done among you?

Now therefore deliver us the men, the children of Belial, which are in Gibeah, that we may put them to death, and put away evil from Israel. But the children of Benjamin would not hearken to the voice of their brethren the children of Israel:
Which evil is being talked about here? Lack of Hospitality became evil and wickedness from when?

If that Levite had slept in the village square in the open cold without anyone inviting him in but leaving him to his lot, that would account for lack of Hospitality. But what did the men of Benjamin do in the night?

While they were enjoying themselves, all of a sudden, wicked men of the city surrounded the house and beat on the door. They said to the old man who was the owner of the house, “Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him!” AMP.

Pls answer me, for this is the cause of the whole evil.

Were they not Homosexuals who demanded that the Levite be given to them so that they could rape him?

And the Lord said that that act must never be done in Israel. True or false?

Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin. NLT

Romans 1:24, 26-27
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1Cor 6:9


Now, let the real lair stand up.

Maximus69:
Sorry i'm not taking sides or why should i? We're reasoning on serious issues here NOT just myopic and heady for the support of what was handed over to us.
You aren't ready for that,so your case TOTALLY differs from our own!

Hear hear. Birds of a feather... complete it.

ImaIma1:
But people choose to see the bad in them. People like freeze can never see this

Freeze is just jealous. He is a failure and he is taking it on people who were successful at his own age.

Lukuluku69:
Step.

Go to the Bible.
Open the Songs of Solomon
Chapter 5
The Last verse talked about Solomon's beloved who is ALL TOGETHER LOVELY.
Get any Hebrew Bible. The Word Translated " All Together Lovely" is Mahamadim.
That word is a four letter word in Hebrew.
Copy it and put on any Translators App.
You will see the Name : Muhammad pop up.

Put a lie to what I just said and try it and publish what you find.

Do this for once!

And Muhammad is that Solomon's beloved? Was Muhammad gay? But I remember Solomon wasn't

Maximus69:
I don't think so because he differs so much from you!

You mean I shift goal post or becos I bash you both so you just have to take sides with him. Either way, am good. Enjoy your JW/Islam affinity.

Maximus69:
Let's rule out all those Jewish prophets from the scene for now! If you're saying the case of RACE should be scrapped. Now can you quote what Rishis teaches about worship of just one God,without the bowing to images?
Moreover you are Yoruba ~ Nigerian ~ African, can you mention the name of a prophet that same God sent to your own people in ancient times?
Because you said the Quran taught that God never left any race without sending prophets to them, please can you correlate that with what our forefathers in Africa had back then?

Watch him shift the goal post again.

Lukuluku69:
I know you never hide what your elders did. But tell me, this "Heat" that warm David body from this Virgin, how did she transferred it to David body? Please enlighten me.

You are very clever, you evaded what that poster posted and have shifted attention to David.

Let's go back to Muhammad?

Why do muslims like shying away from Muhammad's deeds?

Lukuluku69:
Encyclopedia are usually compiled by Scholars after thorough Research work, they draw inferences from their Research and conclude that of ALL PERSONALTY that preached God. Muhammad was the MOST SUCCESSFUL.

They were written by Western Scholars who are mainly Christians, Atheists. That's what they say.

Even Solomon sang his Praise, David did the same in his Psalms. But you are Deaf, Dumb and Blind you can't see it because in your heart is a Disease.

Solomon sang whose praise? hahahahahahaha.


Pls a name of a Man to compare Muhammad with. Wait, aren't you seeing this?

Lukuluku69:
Nomenclature matters otherwise Jesus could have called any other names while he sought help on the Cross. He called on Eli Eli.......

So, if the name is of no consequence, why have you been repeating YHWH all these while like a Drone? Want to know who and what Allah is, I have attached a screen Grab for you and everyone to see. It was a Google Search on what is God's Name in Aramaic the Language that Jesus spoke. So, be my guest

What is your point? That because they are both called gods allah is the same as Jehovah?

Okay Mr man, let's do this.

YHWH is a father to both Jews and Christians.
Is allah? yes or no pls.

YHWH said Jesus was his Son, Is Isa the Son of Allah? Yes or no.

Jehovah raises the dead, Jesus also does.
But, does allah?

Jesus/Jehovah forgives sinners who are not his followers.

Does Allah? Yes or no.

shd I go on? See, you can bear Shepherd, but you can't be me.

Lukuluku69:
Encyclopedia Brittanica written over a hundred years ago has this to say.

Under entry "Quran. " Muhammad is the most successful of All Religious PERSONALTY" if you like foam in the mouth from now till Kingdom come, that remains a fact and that was not penned by Muslims. Impartial Arbitters.

Encyclopedia wrote itself abi? It was placed there by Muslims abi?

I'm still waiting for a man whom we can use to compare with Muhammad.

Lukuluku69:
Ode ni Boy hi sha, how do you get "Heat" from a Woman? How? By lighting a fire and bringing it to your body or balls?

And you were here boasting of having knowledge of my Bible more than I do, yet you missed the part where it says, David never had sex with Abishag.

1 Kings 1:4 And the damsel was very fair, and cherished the king, and ministered to him: but the king knew her not. (did not have sex with her).
You see, we don't hide what our elders did, unlike muslims.

Lukuluku69:
Your ignorance is out of this world I tell you. So, YHWH is God or God's name to you? YHWH? It is the Tetragrammaton? It simply means four Letter. Is your God's Name four Letter? Tetra(Four), Grammaton(Letters) is that your God's name? Seriously? When Jesus was on the Cross according the Bible, was he shouting YHWH, YHWH? Rather he was calling on Eli, Eli...... Does Eli Eli sounds or look like YHWH, YHWH? Keeping exposing yourself. Nairaland has over 4m Registered Members and many other guest.

The nomenclature is your problem? No it's not to me. Who he is and what he is, is my point.

Get it? Who or what is allah?
I mean his activities.

MuttleyLaff:
You would have realised at least two, if you had committed yourself to answering those two questions instead of highfalutinly ignoring it. I am not surprised you did anyway because that is your modus operandi. If not that, you are either like a bull in a china shop, seeing red and running amok, scatter scattering everything in sight.

Let me turn your request on its head and roll it back to you. Please point out a few evilness in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, having a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal, same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour

Sir, I believe I mentioned the word 'Usefulness'. you are spinning evil instead.

Jehovah created everything to serve a purpose and ve useful to other things.
Pls, what is the Usefulness of homosexuality both to fellow men or the universe? because the Universe serves us, we serve it too

Funny thing is, Everytime I come by homosexuality in the Word, it's treated as evil.

The Benjamite clan was almost wiped out as a result of this act against a fellow Israelite. Sodom got wiped out. YHWH says anyone who does it, shd be killed.
If we were to go by that, you sir, shd be killed too for promoting it

Lukuluku69:
David, the Man after Yahweh own's heart. The Bible has this to say about him: 1 Kings 1:1-2 KJV
[1] Now king David was old and stricken in years; and they covered him with clothes, but he gat no heat.
[2] Wherefore his servants said unto him, Let there be sought for my lord the king a young virgin: and let her stand before the king, and let her cherish him, and let her lie in thy bosom, that my lord the king may get heat.

David "gat" heat from a Virgin. Note that in Jewish usage once a girl started her Mensural thing, the very second time, she spends in her

hubby home. The same applies to the Arabs. They and the Jews are Cousins.

A typical Muslim. You left defending what was posted to you but jump to David.

We never said David was the best man who ever lived.

David got heat from the virgin, you forgot he did not have sex with her, could Muhammad had managed it?

Do you know Muhammad incited his son to divorce his wife Zaynab and he married her instead? If Zaid didn't divorce Zaynab he would be met his death in the hands of his father Muhammad.

Lukuluku69:
Yeah knowledgeable people says he is the Best Human can offer. If what you mentioned is all you know or hear about him, too bad. But

before you call people name, I want you to have in mind the word of your Lord and personal Saviour in Matthew 12:36-37 KJV
[36] But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
[37] For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

And who might these 'knowledgeable' people be? Lying fabricating islamic scholars who only talk amongst themselves and commend themselves by themselves?

Pls bring up one man and let's compare and see if there was a man who ever took a 6yrs old child as a wife. Exposed her to his sex organs by thighing and masturbating with her, and had se.x with her at 9

Let's see if any man was the kind of thief that Muhammad was. If any man pretended to enter to an agreement of peace with his supposed foes, but when they are less suspecting, he attacks and kills them in their most vulnerable time.

Bring a man up let's compare if you won't go home weeping.

sagenaija:
The pedophile, war-monger and mass-killer rated higher the very best? You mean best in all these iv'e just mentioned? Are you trying to be funny?

No, he is not, the guy is drunk with Camel's urine.

Lukuluku69:
Knowledgeable people compared Muhammd(Pbuh) with every human in recorded History and he came out TOP. Like I said earlier, compare

your Man God with other Man Gods that's only fair. Muhammad(Pbuh) is human and among Humans he was rated the Very Best.

Okay, pick one human let me take mo, let's compare their records.

Note, the facts you present must be verifiable.

MuttleyLaff:
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
- Romans 8:1

Do you know who my Advocate is, the best SAN in the country is no match Shepherd00? My Advocate will defend me from you.

Shepherd00, you really need to lighten up, just enjoy and love others more, don't get so unneccesarily worked up over nothing and stop sipping the homosexuality Kool-Aid.

Dont you realise that our each and every life changing transformation(s) and the point at which a situation is clearly seen and understood, to start to a change in us, exactly rises, pro rata with the amount of truth we can take and take without running away from it

Now, tell me Shepherd00, how you think God will judge others for how they love and not judge you for beefing it, huh?. I dont know how you cope and live comfortably with this your bias. You see, people say, the truth is stranger than fiction... and guess what, the same truth, on that day, will incriminate you. Hiding and running away from the truth, will never make you free. Running away from the truth, is a race, no one ever wins. Make note, that the day you decide, to stop running, is the day that you arrive Shepherd00. I am out too but my door is always ajar.

All these preaching, you could have just pointed a few usefulness of homosexuality to mankind.

Lukuluku69:
Don't die of ignorance. Seek knowledge it will set you free.

Knowledge in Islam?

WTH? The only knowledge muslims have is the ingenuity to craft ways to kill people, other than that, nothing.

Islam adds nothing to humanity than tears and blood. When others are everywhere discovering things that would better Man's life on earth, Muslims are finding out ways to kill, steal and destroy mankind.

Abegi

Lukuluku69:
What were the Miracles of Abraham, John the Baptist? Besides, you guys claim Jesus is God. Now tell me, how can you compare a "God" with

a Human? On what basis?

On the basis that He did everything YHWH did.

Lukuluku69:
I can see that you are doing some reading now. Good thing. You called Muhammad a False Prophet? Read Isaiah 42. The whole Chapter ni oo. Now, take an Encyclopedia. Go to the Entry under Name "Kedar". Who a Research on who Kedar is. Isaiah 42 will happen in the Tents inhabit by Kedar. I won't say more than that.

Why did Yahweh or YHWH have Mercy on the Cannanites? Why? Why? Like I said, nothing you understand except the drivel you have been fed with. By the way, The Jews of Khaibar were punished for Treason. Read History what Cultures do to Quislings.

Muhammad is a coward. The Encyclopedia Brittanica have him as THE MOST SUCCESSFUL OF ALL RELIGIOUS PERSONALTY. Oh, you don't read that. Continue in your darkness but God works in Miraculous way, enlightenments come to even blind people.

If you strongly believe that Muhammad
can guide you to gain eternal salvation,
please consider the following confessions of Muhammad in the Qur’an:
Surah 46:9: “Say: I am not the first of
the apostles, and I do not know
what will be done with me or with
you: I do not follow anything but that
which is revealed to me, and I am
nothing but a plain warner.” (Shakir)
Surah 6:50: (Muhammad), tell them,
“I do not claim to have all the
treasures of God in my hands, nor to
know the unseen, nor do I claim to
be an angel. I follow only what is
revealed to me (from God).” Say to
them, “Are the blind and the seeing
equal?” Why then do you not think?
(Sarwar)
Surah 7:188: Say: “I have no power
over any good or harm to myself
except as Allah wills. If I had
knowledge of the unseen, I should
have multiplied all good, and no
evil could have touched me: I am
only a Warner, and a bringer of glad
tidings to those who have Faith (in
Allah).” (S. V. Ahamed)
Surah 72:21 is even more damaging
regarding your prospect of gaining
salvation through this man whom you
believe to be a prophet of God. Given
below are two translations of this verse.
Surah 72:21: Say, “I possess no power to harm you, nor to guide you.” (Khalifa)
“It is not in my power to cause you
harm, or to bring you to the Right
Path.” (Hilali-Khan)
Do you really understand the gravity of
Muhammad’s statement when he said, “I possess no power to guide you” or “to
bring you to the Right Path”? Is it not a
prophet’s duty to guide the congregation of God to the “Right Path”? Can you now depend on this man to guide you to salvation? Would it be wise for you to do so?
However, regarding the guidance of
Jesus, reflect carefully on what the
Qur’an itself reveals about it in the
following verse. Ponder how well Jesus
must have guided his followers and
continues to guide them through the
teachings of the Holy Bible.
Surah 3:55: Behold! God said: “O
Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee
to Myself and clear thee of the
falsehoods of those who blaspheme; I
will make those who follow thee
superior to those who reject faith,
to the Day of Resurrection.” (Yusuf
Ali, Original 1938)
Those who follow Jesus are Christians.
And the Qur’an states very clearly that
they will be made superior until “the
Day of Resurrection.” The Day of
Resurrection or Qiyamah will occur at
the time of the end. This means that,
according to the Qur’an, even at this very moment true Christians are in an exulted position as far their worship is
concerned. If Christians are made
superior until the Day of Resurrection
as the Qur’an itself testifies, where do
you think will be their final destination?
Coming back to Muhammad, not only
was he unsure about the outcome of his
or your salvation but he was also fearful
about it.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23,
Number 454:
Narrated Masruq:’Aisha said that a
Jewess came to her and mentioned
the punishment in the grave, saying
to her, “May Allah protect you from
the punishment of the grave.” ‘Aisha
then asked Allah’s Apostle about the
punishment of the grave. He said,
“Yes, (there is) punishment in the
grave.” ‘Aisha added, “After that I
never saw Allah’s Apostle but
seeking refuge with Allah from the
punishment in the grave in every
prayer he prayed.”

Lukuluku69:
I can see that you are doing some reading now. Good thing. You called Muhammad a False Prophet? Read Isaiah 42. The whole Chapter ni oo. Now, take an Encyclopedia. Go to the Entry under Name "Kedar". Who a Research on who Kedar is. Isaiah 42 will happen in the Tents inhabit by Kedar. I won't say more than that.

Why did Yahweh or YHWH have Mercy on the Cannanites? Why? Why? Like I said, nothing you understand except the drivel you have been fed with. By the way, The Jews of Khaibar were punished for Treason. Read History what Cultures do to Quislings.

Muhammad is a coward. The Encyclopedia Brittanica have him as THE MOST SUCCESSFUL OF ALL RELIGIOUS PERSONALTY. Oh, you don't read that. Continue in your darkness but God works in Miraculous way, enlightenments come to even blind people.

Which God works in miraculous ways? Allah, Muhammad or YWHW? Becos they are all called gods doesn't mean they are the same deity.

Talking about Miracles, which are Allah's or Muhammad's miraculous ways and deeds on earth?

Lukuluku69:
The ones we discussed so far, you continuously goof. You understand nothing. Abuses are your high points. Keep at it, my prayer for you is that the Light bulb will come up in your heart. There are people who are more vehement in their rejection of Islam. Today, they are among the bowing, Zakat giving, people of this world.

The Door of Allah's Mercy is open to all.

I'd rather say "Get in" God's Mercy.

You follow a false prophet who followed a blood thirsty demon, allah, but you talk about mercy? You know not what Mercy is.

Why didn't allah had mercy on his holy prophet Muhammad, but left him to die in the hands of a little Jewish girl whom he killed her husband on her wedding day and raped her on that same day?

Why didn't Muhammad show mercy to 900 Jews he killed on their Sabbath day knowing well they won't raise a finger to fight back?

I never a coward like Muhammad.

bilalfarid:
OP u dnt just copy somthing from another website and paste here on NL for discussion, even my 15 year old Lil brother would give a satisfying answer to wat ur so called MATT Slick holds unto as d reason y jesus is gr8ter dan Muhammad (saw).
magnitude of miracles can no be used as a standard to judge which prophet is greater. The bible even mentioned other miracles by other prophets which where gr8ter than that of Jesus, examples below:
Jesus (ﷺ) fed thousands with a few fish and loaves of bread

Elisha fed a hundred people with twenty barley loaves and a few ears of corn (2 Kings 4:44); granted a widow such an abundant flow of oil from a jar that she was able to pay off her debts, save her sons from slavery, and live on the profits (2 Kings 4:1-7); and gave increase to a handful of flour and spot of oil such that he, a widow and her son had enough to eat for many days, after which "The bin of flour was not used up, nor did the jar of oil run dry". (1 Kings 17:10-16).

B. Jesus (ﷺ) healed the lepers

Elisha healed Naaman (2 Kings 5:7-14); for that matter, the disciples were bidden to such service in Matthew 10:8.

C. Jesus (ﷺ) cured a blind man

Elisha not only struck his enemies blind, but restored vision to the blind through prayer (2 Kings 6:17-20).

D. Jesus (ﷺ) raised the dead

Moses put life into a dead stick and transmuted it from the plant kingdom to the animal kingdom by making it into a serpent (Exodus 7:10)

Elisha raised two children from the dead (1 Kings 17:22; 2 Kings 4:34)

Elisha's bones brought a man back to life merely by coming into contact with the corpse (2 Kings 13:21)

The disciples were bidden to raise the dead (Matthew 10:

E. Jesus (ﷺ) walked on water

Moses (ﷺ) parted the sea.

F. Jesus (ﷺ) cast out devils

So did his disciples (Matthew 10: and the sons of the Pharisees (Matthew 12:27; Luke 11:19).
So OP disregard matt slick's write ups. If magnitude of miracles determine a prophets gr8tnes the jesus won't be head of when they talk of miracles.
NOTE: according to the bible. dis raises another uestion of the bible inaccuracy.

Ermmm, sir, that was Jesus doing those things through His servants. If you observe, you'd see them giving glory back to YHWH.

but why did you leave boasting about Muhammad's deeds but about the Jews, wasn't he one of the Prophets?

Lukuluku69:
Good for you. Wait for God's Judgement. It is a matter ordained. You will be presented with EVERY EVIDENCE here on Earth. ^^^^^^ Will be part of the evidence. The ones I put up here will be witness for or against me.


Matthew 12:36-37 KJV
[36] But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
[37] For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

You are right about the Judgement of God and the God seating on the White Throne Judgement will not be allah, trust me.

Where are Muhammad's prophecies, why are you dodging this? Oh wait!!!!, Yeah, Muhammad had no single prophecy becos false prophets don't have prophecies.

Gerauut.

Angelou:
what is ur own thinking cap? Is it camelpiss.org, 6virgins.net, or 365pagangodskabbah.tk

Lol

budaatum:
My concern would not be the natural factors since I've created living things imbued with an ability to "be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth".

If my being was Yahwehlike, I'd just send them a better teacher, most likely my own self taught son and other teachers, to teach them to do it better, except, done that already. If only I had more than one son, I'd likely send him now, though I'd prefer if she were a daughter so she can be called my only begotten and teach science (except, already done that too!).

Oh, I love you.

Janosky:
"Jesus is fully human in heaven"
(John 3:3,5..1cor15:43-45,50)

**" Jesus veiled their eyes" lying Pharisee (John 8:59..10:39)
Jesus no veil anybody eyes oo!

Spirits (angels) who appeared on earth in human form had flesh and bones. Jesus ate,angels ate too ( Gen19:1-3. Luk24:43).


**
Jesus appeared to his disciples in.different forms and they never recognized him until he revealed himself. or their eyes were opened .(Mark16:9-14. Lk24
Even after they had touched his flesh when he appeared to them with nail marks and wounds (John 20:27), later they still could not recognize him ( John 21:1,4).

1pet3:18.. Luk24:26 .1cor15:43-45 ,50) Jesus suffered dishonor as a criminal but was raised up in glory as a life giving spirit.
Stop deceiving yourself.

Did you read what you typed or you copy pasted? All you pasted agrees with what I said.

Lukuluku69:
You have no interest in Rome or Jerusalem? That's News to me. Then, why are you Christians Evangelists so adamant in your support for the State of Israel and Jews claim on the City?

Oh, you look for a New Jerusalem which descends from Heaven? Lol. Like an Asteroid coming to Earth? That's another issue with you lots, a New Jerusalem is the Teaching of who? A New Jerusalem simply means, the old Jerusalem has been corrupted and irredeemably lost to idolatry and vileness hence a New Jerusalem. If I tell you the Meaning now, you will start saying stuff.

Read Paul Letters he gave you a hint of what is meant by A New Jerusalem.


Galatians 4:24-27 KJV
[24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
[25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
[26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
[27] For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

Like a biased Jew he was, Paul subtly is telling you that there are TWO COVENANTS. One for Hagar Boy the other for Sarah Boy. As for the Sarah boy Jerusalem, it has been trampled upon countless Time. The Chaldeans, the Persians, the Greeks, Romans and all manners of people have been Master of it countless Time. The Temple has been destroyed, rebuilt and destroyed but Hagar Boy Jerusalem will be free of such occurrences and this Jerusalem will be mother of all. In that Jerusalem, the "Desolate will have more children than the one who hath an Husband.

When you start appealing to the sense in Scriptures and let the Letters be, that's only when you will understand what the Bible is Teaching. By the way, Paul was quoting Isaiah 54. Read up on it. If you interpretations just say so.

We don't fight over Earthly possession, we only fight as commanded by God. Would you rather have the Statues of Roman gods in God's Jerusalem for his Worshippers or an assembly of Monotheists?

Where are Muhammad's Prophecies?

Lukuluku69:
Be whatever you want to be, but never you leave this Earth without submitting your Will to God's Will.

I have submitted my Will YHWH's and allah is not God.

It is a moon god/demon Hübal worshipped in different cultures. but in Arabia Muhammad killed people to make sure everyone worshipped it.



Jesus will judge and condemn allah.

Lukuluku69:
Stop displaying your ignorance for over 4m Nairaland Members. If you don't know it is better to say nothing. Alexander only defeat them in a War and stopped their occupation of Israel and Jerusalem. That was when the Greeks enter Palestine. It was only a defeat and not an annihilation. After that defeat of their they reorganize and still drove out the Greeks from Palestine.

539 BCE - Persian Ruler Cyrus the Great conquers Babylonian Empire, including Jerusalem
• 516 BCE - Cyrus permits Jews in Babylonian exile to return to Jerusalem; The Tanach (Hebrew Bible) records that 42,360 make the journey Construction starts on the Second Temple.

332 BCE - Greek Leader Alexander the Great conquers Judea and Jerusalem
• 332-141 BCE -After the death of Alexander his generals split up his empire
• Ptolemaic and Seleucid Rule in Jerusalem

Then in
614 CE - Persians capture Jerusalem from Byzantine Christians

And then:

629 CE- Byzantine Christians recapture Jerusalem from Persians

So, as you can see the Persians came back.

But when the Muslim Army converted them, it was TOTAL. PERSIA ceases to be and they join forces with Islam and they became Muslims. So, who need a History lesson? Our Prophet said the present Kisra(That's their King's name) when he preached will be the last and that his Kingdom would be torn to pieces the way he(Kisra) tore the Prophet's Letter inviting to leave Fire Worship and worship God. He was the last Kisra and the Persian Kingdom was torn to pieces. So, between Alex and the Army of Muslim who put and end to Persia?

They are deaf, dumb, and blind, so they return not (to the Right Path). Quran 2:18.

I'm still waiting for Muhammad's prophecies. All prophets Prophesy, where are Muhammad's?

I hear he was a false prophet, but let us at least see his prophecies then we can determine if they are true or false.

I'm waiting.