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ehissi:
Don't quote me ooooh, its what one pastor like that said ooo...

He invited Daddy freeze - a name he coined for himself that is satirical jab at a man fondly called Daddy G.O - to come and prove him wrong by presenting himself to be delivered at the National stadium and see if 52 demons will not leave him........

Did he go?

ehissi:
Don't quote me ooooh, its what one pastor like that said ooo...

He invited Daddy freeze - a name he coined for himself that is satirical jab at a man fondly called Daddy G.O - to come and prove him wrong by presenting himself to be delivered at the National stadium and see if 52 demons will not leave him........

Did he go?

ehissi:
Don't quote me ooooh, its what one pastor like that said ooo...

He invited Daddy freeze - a name he coined for himself that is satirical jab at a man fondly called Daddy G.O - to come and prove him wrong by presenting himself to be delivered at the National stadium and see if 52 demons will not leave him........

Did he go?

Lukuluku69:
Had the Crusaders ventured out of Israel, their Blood would have wet the Desert soil. I told you since Ishmael was placed in Paran, no Foreign Power were Masters of that Land. Fact check my "lies" please but you won't. Seeking knowledge is a Taboo to you. Tell me, the First World War, the Second World War, the American Civil War, the Anglo-French War, the Spanish Conquest of the Atzeec and many other wars were fought by Muslims and for Islam?

Go thru this link a Total Number of 500 Million perished in wars, over 450 Millions were wars between Christians and "Heathen"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll

Christians don't fight wars. Maybe you meant to say the Nations who are not Muslims. You generally assume since they are not Muslims they are Christisns.

If we fight wars, Islam won't be in existence. Take that to the bank.

Salutem:
shout

Only shout?

ehissi:
To help ohers to voice out wetin dey vex them about other pastors.........
He is a deep freezer/cold microphone A.k.a 52 demons container......

He has 52 demons? That lot?

ProudBoy:
Hating kills. Stop it.

Truth hurts

profbayo:
look at this bigot... At least let's prove to us that God deposit some senses into you but saying what's rite. Alms Giving is part of the 5 pillars of Islam, even thou am a Christian but at least I know of Zakat.

Wow. Why then aren't they helping their poor. They liter our streets begging.

How many Christians do you see in Kano streets begging?

Don't let me call you a mice.

Lukuluku69:
Had the Crusaders ventured out of Israel, their Blood would have wet the Desert soil. I told you since Ishmael was placed in Paran, no Foreign Power were Masters of that Land. Fact check my "lies" please but you won't. Seeking knowledge is a Taboo to you. Tell me, the First World War, the Second World War, the American Civil War, the Anglo-French War, the Spanish Conquest of the Atzeec and many other wars were fought by Muslims and for Islam?

Go thru this link a Total Number of 500 Million perished in wars, over 450 Millions were wars between Christians and "Heathen"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll

Keep beating your chest. You will loose at the end

Lukuluku69:
The Crusaders never ventured out of The Holy Lands. I know you don't read so you never know. They were after only Israel and Jerusalem. This they did because of their warped interpretations and ignorance of a Book they no nothing about. For your record, from when Ishmael was placed in Paran/Wilderness/BEARABA by his Father and his sons being Kings in that Land, No foreign power ever subdued them. NON! That is why the Bible says he will be "A Wild Ass". A Wild Ass has no Master and is Free of the burden of being a servant to anyone. So, your Crusaders would have met their end had they ventured into Arabia. All these they won't teach you in Theology School but we can give freely on Nairaland.

And I said 'For a brief second'. Have you considered what wld ve happened to Islam if the ventured out of the Holy land? The little they did, you guys have not recovered from it till today.

The Bible says Ismael is cursed. Everywhere he finds himself his hands are against his brethren.

Blood thirsty musloms are doing that everywhere today.

This is my last reply to you.

Lukuluku69:
Like I told you before, you need to unlearn so many stuff in your head. The four Kingdom of Daniel vision were the Chaldean (Daniel himself said so and Nebuchadnezzar was mentioned! Was Nebu from Greece where Alexander came from?). The second is the Persians, the third being the Grecian Empire of Alexander the Great while the fourth was the Roman Empire which he (Daniel) gave a detailed description of.
You know the Bible and you are saying the Four Kingdoms were of Alexander the Great?

You quoted Daniel 7. Did this vision of the Four Empires in Chapter 7 or 2? lolzzzzz. Pls check your source.

Lukuluku69:
Haba, is this what you teach in Sunday School? No wonder you see so many aspiring Missionaries saying all manner of things. If you want to put a lie to what I am saying, go to the the Amplified Bible and read their Commentary on Daniel 7

Sir, Daniel chapter 2 talks about a totally different thing from Daniel chapter 7.

Chpt 2 was a vision of Nebuchadnezzar and it talks about the World Empires that will rule the Earth before Jesus will finally take over and rule forever. Daniel only interpreted it. U are mixing things up.

Islam has no place in this world as it was never mentioned in prophecy. You guys shd fight now and try to control the people as you are doing now, when Jesus takes over, you shall be wiped out.

Chpt 7 talks about Alexander the Great and his Four Generals sir.

Lolzzzzz. you have convinced yourself that you know my Bible more than I do. sorry.

Lukuluku69:
And Alexander Kingdom, which was the third in Daniel vision was spilt into four AFTER he died and not before he died as you said above. Which corresponds to Daniel 7:6 KJV
[6] After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

Pls go back and read the Bible. the prophecy you are talking abt is in Daniel 2 not 7.

Daniel 7 is about Alexander the Great.

Lukuluku69:
The beast four Heads were those you correctly put up there. And they are Greeks not Romans

Who ever mentioned Romans? There beast was Alexander and the horns were his generals.

Lukuluku69:
The fourth Beast was the one with "Ten Horns and a Little Horn that put down three other horns and this Horn spake great words against the Most High" that was the Roman Empire. Don't muddied the water and lump everything together and claim that I should limit myself to saying stuff about Islam.

Come to think of it, you are here talking so much abt the prophecies of Prophet Daniel, a Jew. Let's talk about the prophecies of Muhammad for a change.

Anything we shd look forward to? Or has it passed?

Lukuluku69:
The prophesies is about Christians? Really really? So, tell me, the Christians put an end to Nebuchadnezzar Empire? The Christians put an end to the Persian Empire? The Christians kicked themselves out of Constantinople( the Capital of that Little Horn) and make themselves of it?

Oga, you know nothing about the Faith you follow.

And stop typing "lolzzzzzzz" it makes you sound childish and when I see it, I sometimes question the state of your mind.

If you observed, all these prophesies points to the coming government of the Messiah. And, it talks about the Saints of the Most High God.
Now answer me, Who are the Saints? The muslims? Who is the Most High God? Allah?
Again, I said, if allah is the Most High, he must also be a father to the Muslims. Is he?

You are a learner.

Lukuluku69:
Don't answer that. conqueror of Babylon thru when it was seized by Omar Ibn Khattab the Third Caliph of the Muslims. A lengthy read but you will enjoy every bit. Try it for a change from those warped interpretations from your Pastors.

I have read all the fabricated history.

Lukuluku69:
The Zoroastrians found in Islam and the Messenger exactly what they were told to for in the "Upholder of all Nations" so, they embraced Islam. Whatever meaning you read into it, they have been Muslims for over Thirteen Hundred years and still counting. They had sure Prophesies concerning him. If I quote it here, it is of no use to you because it is from the Devil.

They embrace Islam, like seriously? are you this brazened to keep a straight face and tell this bold lies? slam conquered them by the sword. Pls stop lying. You're making it seem like Islam was preached to them and they willingly accepted it. Blood is what the god of Islam feeds on. It's been 13 hundred years since Islam began shedding human blood yet it is yet to subdue the earth. If the Christians took up swords and follow Islam the ways it has been wanting us to do, there won't be Islam in the face of the earth.

For a brief second the crusades almost erased Islam, But that is not the Lord's way. He is live and let's live.

Lukuluku69:
Sorcery? Bros, read up on your own History and you will know who really supports that. Start with Simon Magus. For over 300 years, your forerunners were running and burning witches and Wizard all over Europe and also take time to read History on Medieval Christian Europe.

Lolzzzzz. Simon Magus was a disciple of Jesus Christ?
And yes, witches were burnt. you have a problem with that?

Lukuluku69:
Don't answer that. conqueror of Babylon thru when it was seized by Omar Ibn Khattab the Third Caliph of the Muslims. A lengthy read but you will enjoy every bit. Try it for a change from those warped interpretations from your Pastors.

The Zoroastrians found in Islam and the Messenger exactly what they were told to for in the "Upholder of all Nations" so, they embraced Islam. Whatever meaning you read into it, they have been Muslims for over Thirteen Hundred years and still counting. They had sure Prophesies concerning him. If I quote it here, it is of no use to you because it is from the Devil.

Sorcery? Bros, read up on your own History and you will know who really supports that. Start with Simon Magus. For over 300 years, your forerunners were running and burning witches and Wizard all over Europe and also take time to read History on Medieval Christian Europe.

An what did they do when that Messenger Muhammad was born? As I remember they went in search of Jesus and worshipped him.

Lukuluku69:
Oga, the Persian Wise men were not Astrologers. Astrology has it headquarters in Babylon and not Persia. They had a Religion. Unlearn that lie. And relearn the right stuff. Those were the ways of people in the olden days. Anything that doesn't conform to their set Minds, they labelled it wrongly. Virtually all Nations do the World did that. A Cursory read/look into the Books of the Hindus(a Taboo for you) the Bible and other books confirm this. Till date, the Jews/House of Israel never accepted that the same God that spoke to Moses could talk to other individuals from other Nations of the World. That's why you have terms like " God of Israel" the Hindu Gods. All that came to an end when the Muslims proclaim God as the "Lord of the Worlds"

Like I said, the beauty of the Horizon can only be enjoyed by not peeping from your keyhole or your window no matter how wide it is. You need to come out in the open to see it in its fullness.

Oh pls stop this.

The name of the God who spoke to Moses was not YHWH but Allah right?

No matter how you tried, allah remains the moon Arabian god of the desert. He can never be anything other than that.

lolzzzzzzzzzz. suit yourself

talkme:
bro am a christian man... Who cheat pass? who scam pass? who pretend pass ? who lie pass? who do dirty things on social media ? who go church pass? Christians no dey try at all for any matter. Go for interview and see a christian reaction and a muslim reaction, always acting like say na there papa job.

You mean you are a Christian man who cheats, scam people, pretend, lie, do dirty stuff in social media, yet you go to church more than others?

HMMMMMMMMMM. You are that churchgoer we have been talking about.

You want Christians to do their act of goodness in public and break the law of God abi? Clap for ya sef

talkme:
I work in a very good firm, i help within my reach bro. I dont need disclose where i work bro. I pray we change.

No, you must disclose since you want to know what other Christians are doing to help others

Lukuluku69:
Oga, that's why I said you need to read other Records of other Cultures and not be confined to "if it is not in the Bible then it is from Satan/False" mentality. The wikipedia Link you rejected that too! Wikipedia oo. For your info, the Magis from Persia were wrongly labelled Sorcerers/Magicians by Greek/Roman Translators and commentators of the Bible. They were the Wise of the Persian Nation. They have a Book they claimed was revealed to them by Ahurmazda called the Avesta Venididad. In it they have their Laws, Prophesies of things to happen in the Future. In that Book, they were told to look for "The Soeshyant and his chief attributes is that he will be Astvat-ereta meaning " the gatherer or upholder of all Nations". That was what they came looking for at the Crib of Babe Jesus. Satisfied they he was not what they sought, they gave gifts and left for home. Had it been they were satisfied, they would have cling onto Jesus. So, that part saying they came to worship, is nothing but a pious fraud.

lol. Maybe you shd read history then you'd know that magicians/Astrologers were called the Wise men in the Medieval era.

Till today, even in this thread, Wizards/Astrologers/mystics are called wise men. that is why they tell themselves that they are wiser than those who believe in God.

Pls stop.

Pascopele:
IS IT A SIN?

christian sister got pregnant and the church decided to discipline her since she was not married.

When the elders of the Church met and interviewed her, she told them that she has stayed and remained in the church for several years and no one is marrying her and she is getting old and approaching the age of menopause where she can't get pregnant even if married.

So after reading some Christian medical journals on this issues, she decided and did the artificial insemination since she too wants a child. She tendered both medical journals and medical documents that showed it's from a reputable hospital. The sister is pregnant without committing fornication nor adultery with any man.

Now could this be a SIN?

KINDLY give your reasons for your answer and if possible back it with scripture , so that we can learn.
You may wish to share with your Christian friends and see their position on the matter.

What's your position?

It's subjective.

She didn't commit fornication.

But, raising the child without a father figure? Not becos he is dead, but there's no father.

CodeTemplar:
One thing I like about this report is the way it says "Oyedepo Distributes..." and not "Winners Distributes..."
If we can accuse the man of fully owning Winners Chapel and all key assets, then we might as well attribute all the charitable works of Winners Chapel to him.

Right?

Unlimitk:
Where the pics of d materials being distributed.

U can never see an alfa or Islamic organization doing this in Nigeria

pls don't blame them. It's not one of Islam's pillar. But it is for Christianity.

In Islam, it's incumbent on them to pay Zakat which is their tithe, it is used for fighting jihad for Islam to take over the world.


Their goal to kill, not preserve.

HigherEd:
Oyedepo distributes relief materials to IDPs

By Olatunji Omirin, Maiduguri

Founder of Living Faith Church Worldwide (LFC) has donated relief materials worth millions of naira to Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) in Maiduguri.

Represented by State Pastor in-charge of Maiduguri, Pastor Victor Samaila, Oyedepo who last visited Maiduguri in May, 2018, said the gesture was part of the church’s effort to reach out to displaced persons across the country.

He said it was incumbent on all well meaning citizens to make efforts to bring succour to the displaced persons and the church decided to evolve a programme that would cover all IDPs across the country.

“Here in Maiduguri we had gone to four displaced camps and this is fifth one. So far we have reached out to 2,500 households which translates to about 15,000 individuals.

We have distributed food and non-food items such as beans, milets, maize, vegetable oils, salt, maggi as well as clothes and shoes,” he said.

The Pastor urged displaced persons to continue praying for troops and Nigeria, saying the suffering is overwheming.

“I will like to make an appeal to the well meaning Nigerians and corporate organizations to support the IDPs especially in Borno, government can’t do it alone. But as you can see, people are sufferring and much needs to be done.

The Camp Manager of State Emergency Management Agency, Khaud Mohammed, thanked the church for the donation and warned the beneficiaries not to sell the materials given to them.

“We are thankful to Living Faith Church. The quality of materials they distributed is one the best I have seen in this camp, I hope they will sustain this,” Mohammmed said.

#Daily Trust

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1621472747996590&id=444807728996437

Lalasticlala

And what has Freeze done for others.

talkme:
bro am a christian man... Who cheat pass? who scam pass? who pretend pass ? who lie pass? who do dirty things on social media ? who go church pass? Christians no dey try at all for any matter. Go for interview and see a christian reaction and a muslim reaction, always acting like say na there papa job.

And you are better?

johnydon22:
Really? Why would this world be ideal?

because there won't be God to remind you of afterlife, so no talk of sin or Hellfire. You can do as you like and not feel the need to think of retribution.


Only, that world actually existed in some atheists nations and even North Korea and Cuba today. Just check out how people are enjoying life over there.

MuttleyLaff:
I defend homosexualism, just the way and manner, I defend heterosexualism

Please stop hiding behind words, and come out to plainly say what you mean by this remark.

I know of only one true God, Elohim, the Godhead. It is true that satan quotes scriptures and the demons too even know scriptures as well

Ah, so if you recognised, what's with the bee in your bonnet? What is it giving you concern that you had to drag out and rope in with unrelated homosexuality to this thread, huh?

There always is a right way of doing everything brother

Thank you and I'll take this as a compliment, but all the glory goes to God. The homosexualism knowledge, information and epiphany are down to Him

This is where you are completely wrong because if you call self a servant of the Most High God, you wouldnt discredit of a certain and peculiar type of homosexuality

What you have against homosexuality are drawn from exactly incredibly inadequate awareness of the facts of the word of YHVH

YHVH was and is never against homosexuality per se, but you've learned to believe this because someone, a sunday school teacher, pastor, bible class teacger etcetera passed on and gave you false and/or inaccurate information about the subject

You didnt have to bring it up on this thread. I dont see its connection with Esoteric Paths

Nwanne, listen, being gay is like being left handed. Just as some people are left handed, so, most people aren't. Nobody really knows why, except for, it's because we live in an imperfect world. It is not a matter of right or wrong here. It is a matter of thats just the way things are, and that, there is nothing abnormal in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour

elated177, having homosexual behaviour, as in the preceded, stated clearly and in detail, context, respect and/or circumstances, is no more abnormal than being lefthanded is. It is not evil, it is not doing anybody harm and/or if homosexual, you arent necesaarily harming others with it

Pls.sir, can you use Scriptures to defend homosexuality and the right way it and be done?

And, pls tell me the usefulness of homosexuality to humans, seeing as God created everything on earth to be useful both to man and the universe.

How.does homosexuality add to the universe, With scriptures pls.

benodic:
@ loj,

just want to encourage you with what you are doing here. for me, i have simply stopped bothering and what is happening in your thread shows exactly why i stopped bothering. those who will know will know and those who will not know will not know and even though they have eyes they will not be able to see and even though they have ears they will not be able to hear.
to reach spiritual maturity as soul to be able to understand esoteric truths is not an easy task. it takes lifetimes upon lifetimes. experiences upon experiences.

You really have to stop. You want people to willingly accept hell. Do you know the implications?

elated177:
Why do you speak so arrogantly in ignorance?You can insult those who twist the Word of the Creator in order to enrich themselves, such people deserve every iota of insult poured on them, but don't insult the Word of life. Simply because men have failed the Word, doesn't make the Word ignoble.

You can't even spot the voice speaking through him?

He is talking about fear. Who is more fearful than those who work for Satan?

johnydon22:
I have heard so many argue that this universe, this world is quite flawed mostly due to the existence of things we may philosophically refer to as Natural evils. Famine, hunger, diseases, dangerous animals, natural disasters, death and what not.

Even though personally i think things we refer to as evil are necessary - Topic for another day.

I'd like to experiment on this a bit, create a hypothetical universe.

Assume you are in the position of an All-powerful entity, you want to create a world, what type of world, what model of world do you imagine right now to be the ideal world?

I think the kind of world where only atheists will be around.

Agrogbeide:
Kikikkikikiki
GOD IS NOT ONLY OMNISCIENCE BUT OMNIPOTENT AND OMNIPRESENT.
The PROBLEM OF SIN has already been settled by Him who knows the MYSTERY OF SIN on the CROSS OF CALVARY, so you still questioning the Omniscience nature of the Almighty God in regards to sin and eternal punishment is absurd.
Let's take for example; The government of a country(GOD ALMIGHTY) knows how brutal it is in combating terrorism,(SIN) and has provided her citizens(MANKIND) with a sufficient amount of military personnels and aids (THE HOLY SPIRIT) to combat terrorism always and at the right time. And when everything is in place we all know that terrorism won't find a place to occupy in that country.
Now, when the right aids are provided, will it be wise enough for the Military personnel or her citizens to blame the government for the continual thriving of terrorism? You know the answer within you.
Mankind right from Adam has always love to shift blame to God even when it's obvious that he is the one at fault. Inasmuch God has provided us help and comfort by the Holy Spirit that indwells us by the ability of His omnipresent power, there is no longer room to blame Him when you suffer punishment along His line of justice which also corresponds to His omnipotent nature.
So my dear OP God in His Omniscience nature wants you to live above sin and have continual fellowship with Him because His thoughts are of good and not evil and to bring you to an expected end.
TRUTH IS TRUTH AND FALSE IS FALSE. YOUR BELIEF CANNOT CHANGE ANYTHING BUT GIVES YOU A PROPER UNDERSTANDING ON A BETTER FOUNDATION ON WHICH TO STAND.
I BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND HE IS THE PERFECT WAY, TRUTH, LIFE AND LIGHT.

Sir, the guy wants to eat his cake and still keep it.

dukeprince50:
before the beginning, he knows you won't change, then when you did what he already knows before the beginning, he brings justice upon you at the end. I get your point but some explanation is missing

Did he make you do evil? You are forgetting responsibility.

After typing this, you'd go out to buy cigarette with your money and smoke, drink and carry women. You may even be a homosexual. You do every thing God says don't do on your own without anyone forcing you, but you need someone to blame for that.

Sir, you choose Satan's way, so, where he ends is where you'd end.

dukeprince50:
if he knows those that won't change yet created them and punish them later on, will you call him a merciful God?

God never created anybody for hell, but there are those who even if you drag them into heaven with robes, they'll cut off the robes and return to hell. Will you blame God for that?

LoJ:
@
This is an old doctrinal problem. In theology school, we were taught that in classical Christian theology, an attempt to answer this question is made with the idea that God's omniscience is subjected to his will. In other words God is omniscient but can choose to ignore... For enjoyment purposes for instance.

Let's illustrate this with an example. Let say you have downloaded a good movie. In the middle of the movie the main actor is about to die. You have the possibility to fast forward to the end of the movie to know whether he truly dies or not. Or you can choose to ignore and enjoy the movie bit by bit, not because you can't know the end but because you are enjoying it.

In the same vein, it is alleged that God is omniscient in the sense that he can know everything should he choose to, but voluntarily chooses to ignore to allow people free will and to enjoy this movie we call life.

Of course this theological answer solves the earlier problem but creates other ones. Indeed how can someone be sure that he is omniscient? If you don't know something, you wouldn't know about it, since you don't.

Cheers.

Seminaries don't breed Disciples, they rather breed dead souls who although, say they believe in God, yet in their closets they don't. Case in point, You.

dukeprince50:
Good morning NLders, I had an argument with my friends yesterday, we debate on the issue but no one seems to give a reasonable answer.
The question is if God is omniscient which means he knows everything about us, knows what we will do even before we are created, is it fair of God to punish us and send us to hell if we sin. in his omniscient nature, He already knows we will sin, why punish us when he knows 100%.
And if he knows we will sin but expect us to change, then is he really omniscience? cos expectation means ur not 100% certain.
But if he knows you won't change change and he still purnish you, is he a merciful God?

Do you know what RESPONSIBILITY means?

talkme:
They are comfortable where they are.. A muslim bro with a degree will get a job before you, find out. bros na feasibility study mata i dey tell you so, they discuss it in mosque thats all, its solved bro... Your christian bro go say come today come tomorrow..

I see, you attend Mosque. You are a Muslim abi?

OgogoroFreak:
there are so many Muslims on the street cutting people nails and helping people to throw away their dustbins, why haven't they been helped?

Good question air.
All the beggars on our streets, both young and old are muslims, why haven't they been helped