Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 4:41pm On Mar 23, 2019 |
budaatum: That's expecting a lot Lol! We have a jujusugar nonanswer to this don't we people?
"So god created buda in god's own image, in the image of god god created buda; both male and female god created buda." you could just say male or female. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by Shepherd00: 4:40pm On Mar 23, 2019 |
asalimpo: or you will do what?
Are u anoda spineless female or are u her gaurd dog? Which? Again, watch your mouth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by Shepherd00: 4:40pm On Mar 23, 2019 |
asalimpo: you are pathetic. Did you notice that budaatum, insulted me for no reason. She said i am very stupid. Typical of (women) who think they are all that and so hav a god given mandate to go running their mouth. How come u never tried to check her? Stop being a stinking hypocrite. Judge fair. OK |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Get This Thread Now! by Shepherd00: 4:39pm On Mar 23, 2019 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 4:38pm On Mar 23, 2019 |
solite3: who is calvinist? I simply follow the bible. It is boldly written that salvation Is by faith alone anyother teaching is heresy and not of christ. Visit OLAADEGBU thread on Christian doctrine and you will see the important Christian faith. Salvation by faith alone is the number one. Do you keep the Ten Commandments? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Shepherd00: 4:37pm On Mar 23, 2019 |
Barristter07: you just declared him a mortal man . defecation is important to keep a mortal life going or else it dies . a basic need for survival . Did Jesus ate and drank after resurrection or not? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Shepherd00: 4:37pm On Mar 23, 2019 |
Barristter07:
Those activities proved he was mortal . sucking his mothers BREAST was for survival, Just as pooing.
To say he still poo after his resurrection is to declare him a Mortal who still needs to defecate in other to SURVIVE . In other words, Jesus didn't eat after Resurrection? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 10:52pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
budaatum: No! But first, I must make confession. The one single change that has occurred to me is that I have gone back to reading the Bible again. I've only done the first five and all the Gospels though, so, baby.
No, blood! You can not come to terms with who you are now! I mean, imagine one were wretched, does one come to terms with it after receiving the wonderful amazing power the blood of Jesus Christ the Messiah that saves? No. You put on new clothes!
Now, imagine one were righteous, does one just come to terms with it? How? By saying "I am righteous"? No! To start with, if I was righteous, that righteousness itself should stop me from sinning thinking such a silly stupid arrogant ignorant thought. By the Grace of God must I rule over it! Humans aren't stupid is the reason you will find it difficult to find many human beings who claim they are righteous human beings.
It's true though, as you said, "Growing spiritually requires knowledge". That knowledge is acquired through hard work, and the harder you work to store up your wealth where the moths won't get at it, the more wealth you gonna end up having. Ah but we have one here who claims he is righteous. Jnr is a Righteous Christian, the only Righteous Christian. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Shepherd00: 10:49pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel: The matter tire me. He will soon tell you to read encyclopedia to justify his beliefs. lolzzzzzzzzzz. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 10:48pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
solite3: sexual desire is not a sin. I didnt say he stop sinning at once but he is reborn at once. Unlearning what one has learnt for years does not take a day. I had a friend who was struggling with sexual sin as a young believer then the day he open the scripture and learnt of his true nature that was the day he became free.
Yes when one is born again he is as a new born baby who needs to grow every believer is still growing but our spiritual level is different that is why Paul advices believers to mind some things they do so as not to wound young believers.
Christian growth is all is needed. The more a believer grow into the image of christ the more he unlearn the things he had learned his old nature. Through out his life on earth he continue to grow into the image of christ until he finally meet with Jesus. With this I agree. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 10:46pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
solite3: absolutely I see
A Calvinist. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 10:46pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
budaatum: I read the Bible at age 9 and finished it by my 12th birthday, so no, I'm not a baby in Christ nor my grasp of the Word recent. The God bit is somewhat different though, though be very careful with buda please I warn you. As an atheist my mantra was "God does not exist except in the mind of those in whom it is created". Now it's "God exists in buda's mind" where I guess I'm creating it, as I've done since 9. But buda is contradictory so watch, nay, scrutinise the fruit, the objective evidence, it's spirit, and don't trust or believe! Like solite3 pointed out about me smoking and alcoholism buda is sin and contradiction. Okay, Fine. I won't expect anything from Buda. But, is buda male or female |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Get This Thread Now! by Shepherd00: 10:45pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
budaatum: Let me help.
You two. Peace! As you very well can see, the work is plenty and the workers few, and before we held beliefs in our heads we are all human beings whom The Light, the Truth and the Way which is Love. I'm not sure this is his definition of Light |
Christianity Etc › Re: Has Anyone Had Any Supernatural Occurrence Or Has Any Claim To The Supernatural? by Shepherd00: 10:41pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
HappyPagan: No. But your mom should.
A Shepherd thinks we all here are sheep.... What a fool. Now I see you shd ve been flushed. You are a waste of sperms |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 9:11pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
solite3: the Isaiah I quoted is never misplaced. Before we meant christ we have self righteousness which is by works after we meant christ we learn our righteousness is filthy and we have a new righteousness which is through faith in christ, it is not dependent on our works.
Turning from the gift of righteousness only means rejecting the free gift of eternal by Jesus Christ.
Yes Christian's live righteous life but it is simply as a result of their regenerated nature. What do mean works? Are you an advocate of 'Justification by Faith Alone?' |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 9:07pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
bloodofthelamb: Sin is nature, so also righteousness. In Christ we have put on that righteous nature, hence our decisions will be greatly influenced by who we are now in Christ. To answer your question I see no one in Christ who will decide to continue in sin, if he does then that only means one thing that he is not yet in Christ.
We are slaves of righteousness in Christ. Then how come Jesus says Judgement will begin in the Church? When he said get behind me I know you not, do you believe he was talking to the atheists and Satanists? Will atheists, Muslims and Satanists say to Him Lord Lors, we did this and that in your name? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Has Anyone Had Any Supernatural Occurrence Or Has Any Claim To The Supernatural? by Shepherd00: 9:03pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
HappyPagan: The year was 2007.
I wasn't atheist, but deeply antireligious. I hated church, hated pastors, hated Christ.
I got home late one evening. It was dark - NEPA being their usual self. But my eyes and senses had adapted to years of electrical disappointment. I found my way to my bedroom through the darkness, got to my bed, and crashed into its soft welcoming arms.
I was exhausted, but about an hour later, I was still rolling around trying to find some sleep. The heat, and the mosquitoes, wasn't helping either. Just when I was at the extreme end of irritation, I heard a loud hoot...
"PPPPPPPVVVHOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUI!!!!
NEPA. Nepa, nepa, nepa.
My God. Electricity. Without it, the modern world collapses. Without electricity, you wouldnt be able to read these words I type.
We might be far away physically, but it doesn't matter these days. Hazard is kicking a ball somewhere in London, and I could watch him anywhere in the world...
Isn't this great? Isn't this.....
SUPERNATURAL? Shd your father had used a condom and flushed you down the toilet? Be human and be reasonable. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 8:54pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
solite3: when one is bornagain the sin nature automatically dies off. A saved man can not continue to live like that because he his born of God. Even if a believer sin he doesn't lose his righteousness. But, I still have sexual urges, even when I have been saved for more than 10yrs. I still fight lust. Anger and arrogance still plague me. Even as a Christian I had to masturbate sometime long after I had been born again. Tho, I have victory over it now, but it was not automatic as you said. Don't tell me the desire to lie, cheat, malice, hold a grudge just dissipated immediately you became born again. That is a big lie and misleading to those who just got saved. It's a big fight with the flesh to put it down. a daily battle. No battle is as hard as the battle against flesh. Many fall back and don't get up as a result. Pls don't lie here and say you got born again and you stopped Sining at once. This battle goes on till you die. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 8:47pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
budaatum: Hold on a minute. Don't be hasty. You must diligently check!
What do you mean by, "not new in this"? Explain. I don't believe you a new born baby in Christ. I have long silently followed you, and I followed your discussions with Mudleylaf, (am not sure I got that right). Your grasp of the Word is not like someone who recently got exposed to the things of Christ. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Shepherd00: 8:43pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel: Did the bible even record jesus pooping after eating? These jws will not kill me with laughter. They should add how jesus went to toilet and the kind of toilet in their bible. Lol The matter tire me scatter. Maybe we shd account for Jesus peeing on himself when he was a baby or sucking on his mother's breast. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Get This Thread Now! by Shepherd00: 8:38pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
LoJ: @shepherd00
Just forget it. Sorry I should have mind my business.
@budaatum
I think I understand what you mean by not hiding a light. Even if you place the naked truth right before an average person, he will surely miss it. There is really no need to hide, this last conversation has sonehow openrd my eyes.
Cheers I asked you what Light was, you acted like you didn't see it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by Shepherd00: 8:35pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
asalimpo: are you female? I guess so going by your response. All oestrogen and no senses. Watch your mouth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by Shepherd00: 8:35pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
budaatum: You are stupid! Pls don't let them get into you and change you from the cool calm and collected person I know. Do not respond to them the way they do to you. Pls. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 8:31pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
bloodofthelamb: Though an eagle can live like a chicken due to wrong association and lost of identity, but that doesn't automatically make the eagle a chicken. All the eagle needs to soar again is the knowledge of it identity.
Though we the righteousness of God in God can sometimes walk in sin but that does not mean we will remain in it. Righteousness is our DNA in Christ. In truth we don't have former ways in Christ. Remember, "if anyone be in Christ he is a righteous new creation."
Judas never had the Holy Spirit dwelling in him. The Spirit came officially upon men at Pentecost when Christ has been glorified. You didn't answer my question. Anyone who decides to.remain in sin retains the righteousness of God anyways? Or, are you saying if someone receives Christ he becomes a prisoner and loses is free will to continue the walk or discontinue? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 8:28pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
bloodofthelamb: Though an eagle can live like a chicken due to wrong association and lost of identity, but that doesn't automatically make the eagle a chicken. All the eagle needs to soar again is the knowledge of it identity.
Though we the righteousness of God in God can sometimes walk in sin but that does not mean we will remain in it. Righteousness is our DNA in Christ. In truth we don't have former ways in Christ. Remember, "if anyone be in Christ he is a righteous new creation."
Judas never had the Holy Spirit dwelling in him. The Spirit came officially upon men at Pentecost when Christ has been glorified. You are evading the point. Matthew 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.You means Judas was not amongst these disciples or you don't believe that the power they received was the Holy Spirit? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by Shepherd00: 8:16pm On Mar 22, 2019*. Modified: 8:37pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
jesusjnr: Thank God! God is not man! Yes. Becos, if He were, your tongue would have been clipped by now. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by Shepherd00: 8:13pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
budaatum: Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew7%3A16-20&version=NKJV]them[/url]. This is exactly what I meant when I said when you have the Holy Spirit in you, ego or pride dies. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by Shepherd00: 8:11pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 8:04pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
bloodofthelamb: Growing spiritually requires knowledge. The more you come to terms with who you are now in Christ, the more mature you will be.
Do you mean the saved can be unsaved? Did Judas loose his salvation? Or you think he wasn't saved? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Shepherd00: 8:03pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Barristter07: Why not his blood ?
Its a serious matter , because Jesus himself testified when a man eat , he will go to the toilet.
Since you testified he ate ,
" Jesus ate and drank three times after resurrection. " - Sherperd00
PLEASE do you accept he will go to the toilet ACCORDING TO MATTHEW 15:17 ? Wait, your Bible did not record Jesus eating food after his resurrection? lolzzzzzzzzzz. And Yes, if he ate food, then if He felt pressed He'd ve gone to the toilet. You have a problem with Jesus pooping? Stop cloning and post what Matt 15:17 says. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Shepherd00: 7:49pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Barristter07:
and You agree Jesus visit the toilet after eating those foods ? Matthew 15:17 Pls be serious or just move on. He asked Thomas to feel his bones, talk about that and stop being a clone. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by Shepherd00: 7:47pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
bloodofthelamb: Righteousness is not what we do, but who we are in Christ. What we do is the result of who we are. The acts of righteousness! We righteous creature in Christ Jesus. Yes, I agree, it is given to us. The bone of contention here is, after receiving that gift of righteousness but we go back to our former ways with the confidence that after all we can not loose it, can we retain it indeed? Remember Judasiskariot? He shared in the Table of the Lord, he received the same Holy Spirit to heal the sick and cast out demons when the Lord sent them out on the mission field, but did he retain his Grace When he turned away? |