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Maximus69:
Ha Pastor! It must be combination or collaboration o!
I think the akpu comes from angels but the soup was prepared by humans! Remember it was soup with assorted that Abraham also prepared for those angels! Genesis 18:6-8
So i got it right,humans prepared the soup but angels prepared the hard stuff just as one gave Elijah! 1King 19:5-7 But because it's Jesus they can't just give him ordinary Agege bread without soup so his followers preapare a catfish pepper soup

You stand here bold faced and called Jesus a lair right.

Jesus said to Thomas, Touch me and see, it is me, I am not a Spirit for spirits have no flesh and bones, but your watchtower called him a lair.

Clap for ya sef

loschivatos:
'Religious people' a day shall come where by you will be ashamed of what you typed here but be brave enough to apologise.

Which day will that be, When we all stand before the White Throne Judgement to give account of our deeds?

Wait for me to be ashamed

Lukuluku69:
Wrong again. They weren't Babylonians, they were PARSI commonly known as Persians now. They came looking for "Soeshyant". A Powerful

Religious Leaders whose Companion will upturn the Fire Worship and reform their Faith. They inhabit a present day Iran, straddling present

day Afghanistan and some part of Indian. So, they were not Babylonians Oga Grounded Bible Student.

Only you forgot to add that Babylon fell under the Medes and the Persians and all the writings of Babylon, particularly Daniel's Prophecies of the Messiah also fell into the hands of the Astrologers of Persia.

It was from Daniel's writings that the Zoroastrians traced the Messiah down to Judea.

Lukuluku69:
Of cos I know what Zoroastrianism means. That's the Faith of those Magis that came to the Crib of Jesus. Yes, I know what it means. And the

link I sent is from Wikipedia. There is no crime checking it out.

I already know so there's no need wasting my time on it.


They were the Babylonian Astrologers who by books knew that Jesus was to be born, they came to pay homage to the one greater than them.


And if you do your research you wld find that Islam is the forefront of Zoroastrianism. Check the Cristal moon and Star in their emblem, is the emblem of the Zoroastrians.

Maximus69:
I am not a doctor Sir, just a student of the Bible that's ready to observe all those claiming Christians and those criticizing FACTS. So if you aren't competent enough to explain why Jesus became unrecognisable after his resurrection,then the JWs got it right!
Jesus became a spirit person after his resurrection, every other event happened to convince Thomas who's understanding by then can't grasp the whole issue.
Why did you think Paul wrote that letter and included those explanations? Of course God's holy spirit guided this fast learner to help many of them grasp what Jesus taught them later.
People like you would have castigated Paul for rebuking Peter publicly,you would be saying he has no right to correct Peter who spent almost all his life as a relation and disciple of Jesus. Yet Peter became truly confused in a case involving Jewish and Gentile Christians, why?
Jesus taught them that he came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel,and Jesus never eat with a Gentile so how will Peter treat all that now that God's holy spirit have counted gentiles as part of the Christian family?
Jehovah's Witnesses have made themselves clear that Jesus did so many things while teaching his followers but not all could be fully grasped until much later. John 16:12
Spirits don't have bones,but how will Thomas be convinced that this person is his master that was killed since he has vowed never to believe until he SEE somethings? Hmmm Jesus must do something to help this faithful and loyal friend to fully understand that he is now alive,so Paul was given the wisdom to explain that what they all saw wasn't the same body but a spirit person! 1Corinthians 15:42-44 God bless you Sir.

Lolzzzzz. The one with the Watch Tower blinders is calling me incompetent. Funny.


Pls tell me which food Jesus ate. Angel's food or human's?

Barristter07:
No one is dodging anything. He Materialized, he was ' put to death IN FLESH, Made ALIVE IN SPIRIT ' . he wasn't made alive in Flesh ( 1 Pet 3:18 )

He didn't ressurect with flesh and bones, the same account said , He went ahead to EAT

Mr, you once agreed he will visit the TOILET after that, didn't you ? You just declared him a mortal who need to defecate to stay alive

Na how una dey take understand Bible and?

He did not resurrect with flesh and bones yet He told Mary not to touch Him? Na weytin Mary be want touch, Spirit?

He went ahead to eat Spirit's food or human's food?

Again, do you have a problem with Jesus pooping?

Barristter07:
When a Spirit materialize, it has bones ... That's why an Angel could combat with Jacob.

This shows that Jesse was Jehovah manifested.

Janosky:
U sef dey read Bible your eyes but your brain understands nothing !
Jesus was flesh and bones when he appeared to his disciples (Luke24:39)

Let me ask you the question the Lord asked Thomas. Does spirits have flesh and bones?

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
What does the bolded say clearly?

Janosky:
In Luke 24:13-29 ,Jesus appeared to them on the road from Emmaus to Jerusalem, for 7 miles from Emmaus to Jerusalem he traveled with them& stayed with them Yet none of his disciples recognized him during their trip . He had no wounds ,nail marks etc.
** why did Jesus disciples not recognized him ?
Mr Shepard use your brain !!
.

You are hoping you can upset me right? You failed.

Luke 24:31[/quote]And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
Has it occurred to you that Jesus veils the eyes of those He wishes even while he was alive?

Do you remember Him walking right through the Pharisees who wanted to stone him?

Janosky:
Luke 24:30 "Jesus took bread gave thanks and began to give it to them.
.**NOTE**
Jesus ate nothing , says Luke's gospel account

In other words Jesus never ate food after resurrection? Really? Okay here it is.
John 21:5 Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.

John 21:5, 10 Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.

John 21:5, 10, 12 Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.

Jesus saith unto them, Come and dine. And none of the disciples durst ask him, Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.

Jesus ate and drank with His disciples, try as you may, the scriptures are here.

Janosky:
v31".then their eyes were opened and they recognized him and he disappeared from their sight"

What veiled their eyes before?

Janosky:
It is crystal clear that Jesus was raised a spirit.
v31 "he disappeared from their sight" after they recognized him.

How come he could be touched? Do you know Jesus is fully human in Heaven right now? Yes, He is the only Supernatural being who is human, but a glorified body.

Janosky:
Your brain should tell you that Jesus was a spirit ,he made himself visible to them simply to convince them that he had been raised up.
v36.he reappeared to them. v37.they were frightened thinking they saw a spirit
v38.,why are you troubled and doubtful?
v39.it is I myself....
In other words
. I have appeared in a body you can recognize.

Lolzzzzz. You sound like a broken record, who said Jesus was a Spirit? He was a Spirit even before He was billed. Stop acting like you know when you didn't.

Seeing you shall soon join them.

loschivatos:
You are not alone, this is one of the reasons I am not an atheist nor religious because I know there is 'that' which is above humanity and its intelligence. If you must discover yourself, flee religion and be open minded.

Here is the voice of a demon speaking.
@lschivatos, I don't mean you. A demon is in you.

Maximus69:
That is not dodging Sir,it is called overall comprehensive conclusion!
I quoted several verses pointing to the fact that Jesus suddenly became unrecognisable after his resurrection,and there must be a reason for that!
So if JWs concluded that Jesus wasn't resurrected in the flesh,then they needed to explain why he said that to Thomas. Of course they explained that Jesus taught his followers a lot of things out of which many couldn't be grasped within those few years he spent with them,but gradually the holy spirit will remind them of all the things he taught them in order to compare with other events and come an accurate knowledge of the TRUTH!
If you are saying that Jesus resurrected in the flesh,it's also a welcome development but you'll have to explain why he continued to appear in UNRECOGNISABLE bodies! This is how to reason together from the same book[Bible] not when you stick to an event and refuse to consider what the other person is pointing at!

Treat that scripture sir. Does Spirits have bones?

Maximus69:
Why would there be any dodging in what neither my father nor my family penned down?
Jesus was resurrected in the body or in the flesh is truly a matter for debate,but we must consider all the scriptural references before coming to agree on a conclusion.
If he was resurrected in the same body,how come his own disciples failed to recognise him after the resurrection? Luke 24:15-32, John 20:13-18
Luke's account said their eyes failed to recognise him,he called them 'senseless' because they're still confused as to all that he had taught them,finally they recognised him through actions NOT appearance!
So if some people now say Jesus was resurrected in the spirit form[1Corinthians 15:42-45] which could be changed at any given period for a purpose,i don't think such a person or group of persons should be attacked or antagonised!
Angels are spirits,yet they often put together a form of body to do certain things.
¤Eat with people. Genesis 18:1-8
¤Wrestle with people. Genesis 32:24-28

Why did you dodgeLuke 24:39?
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

This is what I have noticed you JWs, you leave what is obvious to dwell on what is presumed.

budaatum:
Yep. "A Christian who didn't believe in the existence of God", though that is how some labelled me amongst other labels, but I didn't mind. My Christian was "Alice may not have really fallen through the Looking Glass, but "words still mean whatever I say they mean", says Humpty Dumpty. Besides, there is benefit in learning at the feet of Jesus, something I hadn't done for a while despite knowing how valuable treasure one finds in a field is. Thankfully, I am graced again to sit.

When buda went up the mountain with Moses and Aaron and Nadab and Abihu and seventy of the elders of Israel, the Lord said to buda, "Concern yourself with what you see and stop trying to look into the face of the Lord', buda!" And buda said, "Ok Lord".

We still fight though, me and my Lord. Just as I do with you all on here in fact. I'm up to Deut, and "God! You were a bit of a jackass then dude!" I'm sure God looks at buda and goes, "at least you know God exists now", since I haven't turned into salt yet.

Hahahahahahaha. This guy.

Well, like your friend Muttley said, I shall watch you closely.

Welcome tho.

bloodofthelamb:
Bro, you are taking scriptures out of context. If you read it in it proper context you will see where Paul is coming from.

Where is he coming from? Maybe you are the one taking it out of context.


That text is about who does the law Jews or Gentles.


Pls read from verse 10 or even from verse 1 right down you wld see that you are wrong.

solite3:
you took that verse out of context. that chapter is written about people who depend on the law to be justified.

Lolzzzzz.

Let's see more of it then.
Romans 2:10-17
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Mark the Worketh good in this verse.

For there is no respect of persons with God.
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
It doesn't matter who does what God commands, Jews or Gentles.

(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Then it comes to my point. For even if it's the Gentles who keeps to the law, if they do what it says, they are justified.

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Have you seen what this verse says. It's about doing what is written to stand right with God.

Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
Which shows the WORKS OF THE LAW? wow. I most have written that by myself.

[bIn the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
[/b]

The day the Lord Jesus shall judge the Earth, it is those who did what he commanded that will stand Justified.

budaatum:
People said one can't be a Christian Atheist and I managed both for years so I'm sure feminists can be Muslims and vice versa, and I've even provided you with evidence!

You were a Christian atheist? How can that be? A Christian who didn't believe in the existence of God?

MuttleyLaff:
I believe you are being true to your nature. Just confirms a leopard never changes its spots

Your friend Buda is now preaching Christ. Weldone

Barristter07:
Seems you are on freezing mode, go back to that post and highlight any presumptions you found .
If None. Keep quiet

See how you are dodging?
This is from the Lord Himself.

Luke 24:39
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Again, did Jesus resurrect with flesh and bones?

If you doge this, then it will be obvious that you are dubious.

solite3:
Because I am God's righteousness. I walk in the law of the Spirit.

Pls explain what this scripture means.

Romans 2:13
(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Lukuluku69:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism

I hope you what Zoroastrianism is? And why shd I go in there? If you have something to say, say it here

asalimpo:
Answer me second,how come you didnt rail on budasAnus when she was running her mouth? How come,gaurddog, you only reprimanded me? What does Jesus/the bible say about hypocrites?

Okay. Enjoy

budaatum:
Even Christians seem to avoid it and run away!

Well, true.

Hairyrapunzel:
Show us the bible passage that said jesus Christ went to toilet or didn't go to toilet after resurrection

You are trying to force down a narrative based on your assumptions down peoples throats.

The bible never said jesus Christ resurrected as a spirit took someone else's body your leaders said so.

Bible never said jesus Christ went to toilet or didn't go to toilet you just assumed.

All your assumptions not even one bible verse to justify it. Smh

These people are a terrible bunch of heretics. They say Jesus was Angel Michael by assuming that since Angels are messengers of God and Jesus was also a Messenger, Jesus was Angel Michael. When you show scriptures winch says no Angel was ever called a Son of God, they'll skip from it and say something else.


Anyone who has a problem with the personalty of Jesus is not of God.

asalimpo:
mr biased gaurdog, you cautioned me twice, did u caution the one who hurled d insults? Now you know what the bible says and bla bla? Hypocrite!
The same bible says to ANSWER A FOOL IN HIS FOLLY LEST THE FOOL THINKS HIMSELF WISE IN HIS OWN EYES.

Being a christian doesnt mean being every1s doormat.
The same Jesus you mentioned railed against some group calling them hypocrites nd snakes!
Yet He was without sin. There's a godly way to doing things.

Answer me first. What did Jesus say you shd do?

asalimpo:
i guess u never feel the sting of an unwarranted insult since u bcame a christian. We r not all there yet. That's if u r a christian

And what did your Jesus say you should do when you are innocently treated wrongly? Attack back or walk away?

It's amazing how people who believe they are better Christians than others do exactly the opposite of what their teacher teaches.

solite3:
yes of cause but I m not justified by that.

Why do you keep the Ten Commandments?

budaatum:
I could. But I don't. I wouldn't want my gender to be considered in my conversations with people. Just imagine how some might focus more on my tits or my prick and not on me and my word. I don't want my gender to make others sin.

Hahahahahahaha. It's Well

asalimpo:
or u will do what? Copy nd paste more of d same thing?

What the Heck? Copy and Paste what?
Your Christian Character is marvelous.

Barristter07:
If he Materialized, It doesn't matter if he ate or not. It vanish once he returns to its spirit form .


To get a clearer Picture, angels are SEXLESS ... But they appear as MALES when Materialized , doesn't mean they are actually males, that Vanish once they return to their Spiritual realm .


But since you claim Jesus is HUMAN, then he must visit the toilet after eating , according to Matthew 15:17 . and defecating ONLY proves he is mortal who needs to defecate to survive.

Comprehende ?

This is the presumptions upon which Charles Tass Russel built the Watch Tower Organization. You leave what is obvious to talk about what you presume.

Answer me, Did Jesus have flesh and bones after resurrection?

adoyi8:
You said that he was the best atheist and was even better than most christians. You attacked other christians like shepherd00, bloodofthelamb and your convert budaatum because of him. why are you making your spirit revealed 'hot cake' look bad now?

My dear, the only True Christian in Nairaland will convert all the atheists. Every other Christian is being used by Satan.

He isn't even seeing how ridiculous he sounds.

Martinez39:
The narcissist has been so obsessed with you. He sees you as a top atheist. Converting such atheist is something these christards will brag about and masturbate to. It gives them the sense of their religion's superiority to atheism (which they perceive as their greatest opposition because it uses logic).

Should they convert an atheist or floor an atheist in a debate, it becomes the reassurance that christianity is logical superior, true and no match for atheism . A bragging and masturbation avenue for these christards.

Shouldn't you just address Jesusjnr rather than generalize? point any other Christian who is acting as stupid as Jnr is? As much as your eternity concerns me, but if you choose Hellfire, that is your choice and I can't force you out of it. To think that I will do what Jesusjnr is doing here, then you have something else coming.

The Lord never begged anyone to follow Him.

Enjoy your Hellfire since you prefer it and stop being dishonest.