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HardMirror:
let us start with her conversion. What is th point? It makes sense when i read story of people becoming christians and they are able to tell you their story and you are able to relate. My story is online and that is not even half the reasons why i dumped religion. These are immature posts just to boast egos and nothing more. You created a topic which rightly states that god can do anything he/it/she wants. But it was just about ego as nothing substantial to it. Anyone can wake up and say god Bleep can do anything. But problem is which god? When god is not defined what are you even talking about?

Before you became an atheist, which God did you serve? I mean his name, for they all have names and the way they do their things.

jesusjnr:
Atheism was then, but Jesus is now, and the earlier Hardmirror comes to the reality of that in Nairaland, the easier it would be for his mirror not to keep reflecting the past, but the present and the future of Nairaland.

For the box is now fully in Jesus court, hence if hardmirror wants to talk to jesusjnr, he must come to jesusjnr, otherwise he would be seen to be talking only to his reflection in the mirror, which may lead to insinuations of a hardmirror turn mardmirror.

Foolishness he says, unknown to the extent of his wisdom, the foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of men, hence the foolish things of jesusjnr is what God would use to confound the wisdom of hardmirror.

So hardmirror should keep clutching at straws if he yet refuses to acknowledge the presence of the greatest ever mirror, for at the presence of this mirror every other mirror must bow.

Yes it is called the Jesusmirror.

And any mirror that shall fall upon this mirror shall be broken, and any mirror that this mirror shall fall upon shall be grinded to powder.

I'm trying to make sense out of this. There seem to be two persons here whom hardmirror must come to terms with. Is it Jesus or Jesusjnr.

Jesusjnr, are you trying to usurp The Lords place?

Lukuluku69:
1. Now get yourself and Encyclopedia Biblical, go under the heading "Names"

2. Go under the Entry "Jesse"

3. You will read "Jesse is contracted from Ishmael"

Try Cheneye Encyclopedia Biblical.

When you are done, re-read the Prophesy with the proper manner of writing that name.

Am I clear enough?

If I understand the point you're trying to make here, you mean Jesse the Father of King David is the same person as Ismael?

Lukuluku69:
I believe you are intelligent than this nah. After how many days now that we have been having this chat and you still haven't decipher the

gist of it all? Remember I told you about the Jews jealousy toward Ishmael? You see most references about the Ishmael were effaced. I will

you tonight. Do you know the name "Jesse". Go do a Research on it. Whatever you find please publish it for all on Nairaland to see.

The Jews are jealous of Ismael? Lolzzzzzzzzzz. Now that is a laugh. Maybe you shd go back and read the account that puts Ismael in the Bible and see who was Jealous of who.

Why was him and his slave mother removed from Abraham's family?

Wait!!! I forgot Muslims turns things in the reverse order.

Lukuluku69:
Ishmael was not found there because your Jewish Masters took that portion out. That's why.

You are confused. Jews are the descendants of Judah the son of Jacob. Judah and all other tribes of Jacobs Children are Israelites.

Not even Esau, Jacob's brother is a Jew or an Israelite, how then will Ismael be a Jew?


Stop trying to force yourself into what you don't fit.

Islam has nothing in common with the Jews.

Lukuluku69:
1. Now get yourself and Encyclopedia Biblical, go under the heading "Names"

2. Go under the Entry "Jesse"

3. You will read "Jesse is contracted from Ishmael"

Try Cheneye Encyclopedia Biblical.

When you are done, re-read the Prophesy with the proper manner of writing that name.

Am I clear enough?

Islam tries to find relevance by leaning on the Bible, the same Bible you guys claim is corrupted.

Stand on your own let's see how you go

LoJ:
Have you ever met Jesus in person?

Does Spirits meet flesh and blood in person?

You said you were a Pastor before you saw the light and left Jesus. Did you ever see him in person before you believed and became a Pastor?

Hahahahahahaha haha. cultic folk write about your master and leave Jesus alone.
Satan bows to Jesus.

LoJ:
At least you acknowledge that divine things are hidden to some, and that was exactly my point. Moreover, I never claimed to be anyone's servant or otherwise.

Again, when something is well hidden, people are not aware of it, aside those who have managed to dilligently seek it and find it. When one don't know something is hidden, it could be because one has not found it yet.

Greetings

Funny enough those who finds what Jesus hid were and are the poor and lowly, not the seemingly wise and elite.

LoJ:
It is the glory of God to conceal (hide) a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. Proverbs 25:2

cheers.

And, the Lord does nothing until he has revealed it to His servants. Amos 3:7

2 Corinthians 4:3-12 King James Version (KJV)

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

PS 25:14
[/]The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.[/b]

If you feel like God is hiding something from you, maybe is becos you an outsider.

He said he knows his own and he is known by them.

Ihedinobi3:
I believe it is.

I know it is.

Martinez39:
Not at all. In my op, I advised those with suicidal thoughts to seek help from professionals. Read it. Thanks for your concern.

Okay then. thanks

MJBOLT:

death is death,why have you not transitioned to glory

So thinks the fools, but death shall reveal all things. Like someone here will say, we shall see when we die. bye

***Moving on***

Martinez39:
I never said I wanted to kill myself. Where did you get that from?

Oh, My bad. I thought you were contemplating suicide.

MJBOLT:

nothing can be more stupid than believing in an imaginary sky daddy who cannot even save his followers

Forgive me, I didn't know you are a fool.

MJBOLT:

why are you still alive?

I don't think I said killing ourselves is precious to God. Did I say that?

He brought us here and it behooves on Him when to take us out of here.

MJBOLT:

the ghanaian atheist was sarcastic

What is funny? The Bible says in Psalms 116:15, that Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of His Saint.
You may want to laugh louder now.

And No, the atheist was stupid, there's a difference.

Ifyjoshblaze:
So Christianity and Islam invented Missionaries right??

As far as I know, there are no Islamic missionaries. That is becos Islam does not run ministries only Christians do. But, If you know any pls present.

MuttleyLaff:
VBCampaign? Nah

Not leadership roles per se, but problem with being under a woman in leadership role at church setting, and not necesaasrily elsewhere.

I know VBCampaign and I boldly can vouch that he isnt misogynist, he is egalitarian and that's why I called his views quasi-misogynist.

I see.

LoJ:
Hello to All.

In the following posts I will attempt to deal with esoteric / mystical Christianity understood as the sum total of the occult teachings of Jesus and early Christians.

I shall attempt to demonstrate that the books in the Bible and out of it were never meant to be read literally but instead are encrypted with various layers of codes enigmas and levels of meanings.

I shall substantiate the claim that all that is written in the Bible describe inner and universal principles as they were understood by early Christians and possibly Jesus.

I shall explain how and why Jesus and the primitive sect formed around him found necessary to proceed in this manner instead of displaying their doctrine exoterically (in opposition to esoterically).

I will thus proceed and post at my convenience hoping it will be of interest to some seekers. This is purely my opinion and I do not represent nor belong to any religous body group or circle.

You are all welcome.

Mystical Christianity? Is there anything Satan won't try to claim as his?

Sir, with all due respect, I'd say you know nothing about Jesus. From my Childhood days, i hear the occult trying to pass the Lord Jesus off as an oçultic mystic, becos they adhere to mysticism, but every time an occult gets arrested, they come out confessing differently.


The Kingdom of Heaven is hidden to the Occult and trying to see into it, is effort in futility.

Jesus hides nothing. His messages are mostly for the unlettered, not for those who feel they already know too much.

tartar9:
mtcheew..but we worship Jesus,an idol

Which of the Jesus'? The Jesus of Nazareth of Isa of the Arabs? Which one is an idol?

gustav25:
The people in the plane , didn't alot of them have a belief in a God ? Why didn't he do his thing ?

I am about the querier, not those in the plane.

Death to Christians is transition to glory not a tragedy. So, pls answer me why an atheist demanded answers from a none existing God.

AreaNews:
“God was drinking beer so he couldn’t save those who perished in the Plane crash” – Ghanaian atheist

Popular Ghanaian atheist, Chris Vincent has questioned why God failed to save any of the 157 people who perished in the Ethiopian Airline crash.

Read more: http://areanews.ng/?p=6136

For God to save anyone, He'd have to first exist abi? An atheist expecting something from God who doesn't exist. Wonderful.

Ifyjoshblaze:
I've been thinking for some time now about the foundational bedrock of religion in this country.

I wonder what the situation would be now if we were colonized by a Buddhists-majority country or if the first "foreign" religions to make "missionary" inroads into our country were neither Christianity nor Islam.

Do you think Christianity and Islam would still be our major religions??

BTW i am not an atheist so save your pickforks....
I just want a reasonable discussion

How then will they be missionaries?

TVSA:
This guy will have a hard time working under a female boss. I believe you have a problem with women in leadership roles

He is a misogynist

donbachi:
na e u carry flower wey anoda God create full ur hand and neck.

This make me laf till tears commot for ma eyes. Him dey flex another God creation yet him master of the universe. lolzzzzzzzzzz

Ihedinobi3:
Unfortunately, because of a new problem with my device, I can't post the content of those references. Nor am I actually responsible to do so. I wish I could both to demonstrate that I do know them and in order to show you that you are making things up.

Exodus 3:14-15 was God's Description of Himself to Moses for the benefit of the Israelites. He was telling him what He is as God. He is the "IS", for want of a better way to explain it. That is, He is the Empowerer of everything that exists because He is the Prime Mover of all Existence. That is what the True God is. The Name that He spoke of was a definition and even the word there is lost in history. The original Hebrew was written only in consonants and no one is sure exactly how the tetragrammaton YHVH or YHWH ought to be sounded out. So, it was not merely the word itself but what it meant that was supposed to matter to us.

1 Kings 8:29, 35, 43, 48 is a selection of verses that only includes the phrases "My Name" or "Your Name". None of them actually says what this name is or that it must be exactly correct in spelling or pronunciation. In fact, in that period of history and until much later (even today, this is still true to some degree), "name" referred to the entire Person. Consider that name can be a synonym for reputation. What that means is that these verses speak of acknowledging God As God, giving Him His due respect and respecting the Place that He sanctified for Himself, namely, Jerusalem and specifically, the Temple which was His Earthly Palace (that was what Solomon was praying about in 1 Kings 8 ).

1 Kings 9:3 is the same as 1 Kings 8 treated above. What God says there is that He accepted Solomon's Temple and would live there forever. It is on that same site that the Earthly Palace of the Lord Jesus, that is, the Third or Millennial Temple will stand in the Millennium when He will rule over the whole world until the end of human history. This is exactly what the Lord was promising to Solomon. In fact, the Glory moved in from that day of dedication until Ezekiel saw it leave during the Exile, at which time the Temple was completely destroyed only to be rebuilt much later by Zerubbabel and even later enlarged and ornamented by Herod. Again, this does not say anything about the spelling and pronunciation of God's Name.

2 Chronicles 7:14 also says nothing about spellings or pronunciations of God's Name. In fact, just as before, this is God associating something with Himself and not a treatment any more literal than seeking His Face in the same verse is. His Name is His Person. People who are called by His Name are people who have chosen to submit themselves to Him and follow Him, therefore identifying with Him. They are the people whose prayers He hears. Compare "Christians" which is Greek for "(those) of the household of Christ".

Psalm 138:2 is the same as the foregoing. Still nothing there about spelling and pronouncing God's Name any particular way.

Psalm 119:89, 105 do not reference God's Name at all. They address His Word.

Isaiah 42:8 is a reference to Exodus 3:14-15. Also says nothing about spelling or pronunciation of God's Name.

Proverbs 30:4 speaks of the wonderful mystery of God. We do not know everything there is to know about God. That was what the question "what is His Name, and the Name of His Son?" was about. If Name is another way of saying "Person", as I have already told you that it was in Bible times, then this really was a challenge to the arrogant to tell all there is to be known about God. Again, there is nothing here about the spelling and pronunciation of God's Name, only the fact of it.

Matthew 28:19 again refers to the Persons of God. Later, in Acts, we see that the apostles baptized believers into the Name of Jesus. The Lord Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity, the Word. Why was His Name sufficient if this was an issue at all? In fact, it was not at all. What our Lord taught here was that those who believed in Him through the Gospel would be made one with the Trinity because of their Faith (compare John 15, 17:21-23, 26; 2 Peter 1:4; Revelation 3:20). Again, nothing about spelling and pronunciation of God's Name.

John 3:18 is the same as John 3:16. Believing in the Lord Jesus Christ, that is, in Who He is and what He has done for us, is how we are saved, not believing in a particular spelling or pronunciation of His Name. The Lord Jesus is God Who put on human flesh to die spiritually on the Cross for us so that we can be saved from our sins and their just consequences. This is what we must believe to be saved. The issue is not which spelling or pronunciation to use for His Name. In fact, this place says nothing like that at all.

John 5:43 says that the Lord Jesus came on the Father's behalf and in His Recognition. That means that He came in the Father's Authority. But Israel of His Day rejected Him, just like many believers today are rejecting listening to the Bible and to teachers endorsed by it, and preferred instead to listen to people who came in their own authority and recognition, just like believers today are doing as well.


You may be one of those who think of biblical interpretation or hermeneutics as a mysterious affair which the uninitiated cannot do. Perhaps you think that the mere use of the phrases "my name", "your name", "my Father's Name" etc means something so profound that it needs to be seen esoterically, but this is not the way the Bible works. The Bible explains itself. That is, when something is said in one part of the Bible, that same thing is explained elsewhere either by manner of use or by explicit instruction.

God's Name is important but not in the way of a legalistic ritual. We don't gain or suffer for spelling the tetragrammaton as YHWH instead of YHVH, for example, and certainly not for calling the Lord Jesus Jesus instead of Yeshua. God's Name is important for the same reason that a person's character and reputation are. Honoring God's Name involves respecting Who He is. He is Holy and Perfect and therefore when we deal with Him, we must treat Him as Holy and Perfect. We don't take Him for granted or treat anything about Him as common. That is what it means to treat His Name with respect.

Correct.

elated177:
You wish.

I didn't want to this, you being "a Christian committed to following the bible" and all. Since you have failed to study the Scriptures for yourself, let me help you out a little.

Exodus 3:14-15.
1 Kings 8:29,35,43,48.
1 Kings 9:3.
2 Chronicles 7:14.
Psalm 138:2.
Psalm119:89,105, etc.
Isaiah 42:8.
Proverbs 30:4.
Matt 28:19.
John 3:18.
John 5:43.


Just a minuscule of the chapters and verses in the Scriptures.

lol. this is not how to make a point. what does the verses say?

elated177:
On the contrary, the names were not transliterated but they were translated. It is a very big deal, actually, especially to his true worshippers. Knowing the true name of the Saviour of the world makes a very big difference.
And it is not as one pleases or sees fit. The Spirit of the Father in the saint will determine.

By what name does Jesus introduce Himself to people when they see Him?

Why does the sick receive healing in the name of Jesus?

Harpyeagle:
I've asked a few people this question but I wasn't satisfied with their answers. So I decided to make this post. The name given to the Messiah (yeshua/Emmanuel) is the most important name in the bible , why was it changed to Jesus?. I think through out the time he was on earth nobody called him jesus but yeshua.so pls I'd like to hear ur thoughts nairalanders.

What do you mean replaced? Like it's a different name with a diff. meaning altogether?

budaatum:
If I kill myself its my business, very stupid business, mind, but my business all the same. But it is a very ignorant thing to do, or an attempt to escape from shame or pain.

Imagine buda kills the self this very moment! buda would no more be part of the discussions on NL except when someone mentions buda, and they can say anything they want about buda and buda wouldn't be able to comment or correct them! Time will fly by and only once in a while would someone say, "ah, that buda" till eventually someone would say "who was buda?" then someone would say, "you don't know buda?" Then myths might grow up about buda claiming she is a man, he a girl, it is 12 who writes what most hardly understand and no one would know buda because buda killed itself. And what a waste!

just the thought of the world going on without me is enough to keep me alive. Imagine I died in 2018 and not see Buhari win a second term in 2019. Imagine I die by the end of this year and not see Trump de-trumped? Imagine the whole of UK has to be moved to Gambia in its attempt to leave Europe and I'm already dead and seen none of the debacle they made of it? But most of all, imagine when you all get sense and your eyes open and i'm already dead and not there to share the joy of the mass enlightenment that is on its way! Hope you see why I'd rather go for eternal life than waste my time on suicide!

Suicide is what you do when you are a waste of space and need to vacate it for more valuable people to occupy it. May that not be your portion. But if it is, then you need some 'Christ' loving, which for the sake of this, is Wisdom.

Wise wordz

Martinez39:
HMMMMMMMMMM.

But, why you want kill yourself nah? Whatever conditions your mind right now to do it can change