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FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 6:55pm On Mar 28, 2022
Solatium:
Who cares where you get your degrees from?
You only need to read and pass an exam then a certificate awarded for your efforts.
That is what certification is all about,deploying what you have learned is what I am after an SSCE holder who is logical in thinking is far more better than a Msc Holder.

i do not have a second degree but i will school you with your Toronto Msc or MA or MPhil.
grin
Where are you references? Why are you trying to avoid debating and correcting me.
Lets go back to the correction you were about to give me. I am waiting.

I told you that child abuse and domestic violence affects a country's GDP. I gave references. You said it does not. Explain to me

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 6:53pm On Mar 28, 2022
GloriousGbola:
No records until 18 unless you are involved in major juvenile delinquency
Awesome. Thanks. I guess this is for the US. I read somewhere that in Canada some occupations will require a police background check from students attempting to get into university. I am assuming that some of these students will be younger than 18.
Anyways, thank you for allaying my fears. I was quite worried
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 6:46pm On Mar 28, 2022
1stGenAmerican:
I agree.
I am actually very concerned about the police record she might be creating against her kids
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 6:45pm On Mar 28, 2022
Solatium:
If you need citation from Google to validate your knowledge of things as little as this,then your degree certificates should come to questioning.
Those who studied Sociology, Criminology or Anthropology do not need to even read twice before they know you are talking balderdash.
You are one of the Major reason schools abroad don't count our degree towards academic credit, having degrees either first or second is not enough,but how have you been able to internalized knowledge and make same reflect on the quality of your argument while in fora like this is what matters.
Madam,no need to form Voltron,just keep quiet and learn
I am ready to learn. Teach me na.
Just so you know Google isn't the only search engine available, so if you have a problem with google, kindly cite from a different search engine
You have the time to type all this, but no time to type out a correction. This common sense isn't as common as we think it is.
BTW, the second degree is Canadian. Thanks
I ask again what is your second degree?
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 6:43pm On Mar 28, 2022
shantti:
Sorry, I read u wrong. But should I start mentioning Americans who had perpetrated atrocities
Yes please , mention a couple. I would like to go study their childhood backgrounds and either correct myself or give you an update
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 6:42pm On Mar 28, 2022
mrblessed:
See emotional blackmail 101. So any refutation of your shaky, error-infested claptrap is a portrayal of a nonexisting violence that occurs only in your head. I'm glad you have been unable to coercion people into agreeing with your erroneous view, even when knowing "violence" is a choice word you use with complete abandon.
If you feel someone has made an error, point it out and correct the person, rather than insulting the person.
I keep saying it is typically in Africa that two people will be having a debate, ne person will make his presentation and the other person instead of making his own presentation will attack the 1st person verbally.

Even you, what effort did you make to correct my erroneous view. You could type out an insult, but you did not have the time to type out a correction. Mtscheww!
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 6:37pm On Mar 28, 2022
shantti:
The lady I mentioned claimed that despite all the beatings Africa give their wards, Africa is still a shithole devoid of human empathy,peace and development while the whites who don't beat their kids have a society that is synonymous to human empathy, peace and develpment.
Now understand that in the context she used, there was nothing like the WEST, it was basically the WHITES against the African society.
so the people that I referenced, don't they qualify for the denotation, THE WHITES, or are u telling me that they were raised in Africa.
Okay, now I am thoroughly confused. Where did I mention whites?
I believe I said "westerners"

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 6:00pm On Mar 28, 2022
NairaMaster1:
I pity your parents. Your dad right now!!
Lol, no need to pity them, They are happy and close to their grandkids. No violent discipline. Children's character are molded before age 12
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f):
Solatium:
Not all information on Google are valid,your common sense precede Google,if you have a very sound education and a discerning mind it won't take you a while to figure out somethings.
You need to know what a GDP is in relation to Economy, and what a domestic violence is in relation to a child discpline, until when you are able to understand those and apply your common sense you won't get an answer. grin
That you were not able to provide any references to refute mine means you do not know as well. There are several papers on this, I just chose one. Everyone else's cannot be wrong while Solatium's common sense is correct.
This is a public forum and you should be able to provide references to refute a claim not hiding behind the cloak of common sense. When Hitler was annihilating the Jews did you not think that he was applying his "common sense" in trying to ensure the purity of the Aryan race? Common sense is relative therefore our common sense cannot precede factual, thorough studies that have been made public on google.

BTW, My second educational degree is in Accounting, I know what GDP in relation to Economy is. What is your own second degree in?
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 4:42pm On Mar 28, 2022
Solatium:
Unfortunately,the violence they are talking about are Riot's,Civil unrest and War.
Those that are capable of shutting down the space,not domestic violence between spouse.
Child discpline is not even violence as you want us to believe.
Aunty quit misinformation grin
Uncle go and study. Google is your friend grin

Can you see that violent discipline at home can take off up to 19% of GDP
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-abuse-costs-idUSKBN0H41AL20140909

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 4:12pm On Mar 28, 2022
shantti:
Maybe Hitler's case is different, but Putin being bullied doesn't attest to the fact that he was disciplined by his parents. Like I said before, what about the muderers, assasins, junkies and rapist in the developed countries where children aren't beaten if they do wrong

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 3:44pm On Mar 28, 2022
shantti:
The lady I mentioned did not project her view on the Westerners alone, it was basically DEVELOPED COUNTRIES against AFRICA undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 3:20pm On Mar 28, 2022
Solatium:
Violence in relation to GDP growth?
okonjo iweala must no see this grin
She is an economist. She knows already

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 2:23pm On Mar 28, 2022
pdf90:
Because u have avenue to talk don't mean you should talk rubbish
You are a typical Nigerian who goes violent on people because they have different views

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 2:09pm On Mar 28, 2022
cocolacec:
Did you find out if she was being bullied/abused at school or find out the reason for always running or rolling on the floor everyday at the school?
Canning only makes children internalize pains and sufferings,you are already breaking the bond between you and your child.Sometimes we overlook children’s reaction till the problem turns into a different dimension

You will wonder where the disciplined children of yesterday became cultists who dont have human feelings anymore.Pain and violence is part of the Nigerian discipline system.Violence only breeds contempt,Stockholm Syndrome and Narcissicism.

We are not on the slave plantation where white masters flog slaves.Our children are not slaves to be beaten/maimed but our precious mini me to be guided with love,attention and utmost care.

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 2:08pm On Mar 28, 2022
kingreign:
Who’s this unfortunate lying scum? huh huh
Says a person who lives in Nigeria. From Nigeria who want to know what is truth and what is a lie in another country.
I said that the typical Nigerian is violent to anyone who does not share his/her point of view and you just proved it.

I know it cannot happen in Nigeria but in other countries see your proof below

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 1:59pm On Mar 28, 2022
mmsen:
I know girls who were born and raised abroad, girls who aren't even Nigerian who are members of Christ's Embassy. They're doing much the same as your niece.

My point is, being 'abroad' does not mean all will be well. You have to put in a lot of work to raise children no matter where you are. Most people simply aren't interested in actively raising children, they want to cut corners and then blame the children when it goes wrong.
You have summarized the matter
Most people simply aren't interested in actively raising children, they want to cut corners and then blame the children when it goes wrong.
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 1:57pm On Mar 28, 2022
tekjansen2:
Western countries apart from the USA have very strict gun laws.
So the problem is not discipline which is the topic of this thread.
The problem in your comment is "gun laws". Totally different from the discussion. By the way, did you see Nigeria there?
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 1:38pm On Mar 28, 2022
being:
Sounding woke & cool but absolutely no iota of wisdom.. she should channel d rejection to something gud.. Just imagjne
You should study some more. It is possible to channel rejection into something good. Some links are below.

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 1:36pm On Mar 28, 2022
Nauttyprof:
It is in USA you hear of crazy crime conducted by teens in high school. Have you heard any Nigerian school where a teenager walks into the school and starts shooting at fellow students?

Nigerians are quick to appreciate whatever will see over there without also looking at the bad side of whatever they practice. Both systems are not perfect.
School shootings is a USA problem. It is minimal in other western countries. See below

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f):
KanwuliaBaby:
YES!
But they will be sealed. They will show up AS FLAGS!
Some employers will not have time to CALL YOU to ask you what is in there. They will fling your application to the thrash bin and move to the next applicant.

Others that really care will ask you to explain. Very tricky.

What you say might even seal you doom with that employer. They may use it against you.✅
Thanks for a quick response.
How about for the kids?
Do the records parents file against kids show up in their background checks.

You might need to calm down on the filing of records against your kids and check with your local police.

Thankfully my children are grown, but for others who may want to learn.

But I still maintain that its the parenting given to a kid before 12 that establishes character. I guess Canada and US are different. In Canada (at least in my environment), people (including children are a little more chill. From 14 you see children posting on facebook groups offering babysitting, dog-walking, yard clean-up services.)

FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f):
KanwuliaBaby:
You damn right! I don’t play with these little fools here o.

If you try to call the police, they will just fall on their knees and be begging. Dem don taya to see police ke! cheesy

You have to use the system to your advantage ke!

Every police complaint is RECORDED IN THEIR FILES.

When it gets to a stage, they police sends them in front is a judge for being public nuisances. That na another wahala entirely.

Na dem go get record, nor be me?✅
I am just curious. Will these police records show up when it's time to do a background check for a Job - for the child?
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 2:15pm On Mar 27, 2022
KanwuliaExtra:
I personally went through a similar experience with one of my daughters.
She loved to dress provocatively at THIRTEEN!

One day she wore this::
I appealed to her nicely that it was 42 degrees outside and she had to change this outfit it I would drive her to school.

She refused and did not take her to school. I don’t know how she got to school.

When she returned, I told her she could not enter my house o. I RIPPED THE SKIRT OFF HER ARSE RIGHT THERE BY THE MAILBOX with only her UNDERWEAR on her and locked her OUT OF MY HOUSE. She stayed in the garage and told her she should only come in to use the bathroom.She called the police and told them I was freezing her outside. grin

OMO!


See SWAT TEAM for front of my house? shocked

There were TEN of them in 6 police vehicles.
They told me I MUST LET HER INTO THE HOUSE. because it was too cold! I refused.
I told them it was her punishment for disobedience and she is locked out of my house for 4 hours.

I provided her with a space heater, some clothes, a pillow and blankets to SLEEP on the floor!

The police told me she had EVERY RIGHT to be inside the house. I told them to have me arrested if I was breaking any law.

The useless white cops left!
Imagine the embarrassment in front of ALL the neighbors? My husband was SPEECHLESS!
Well done mum, you taught her a lesson without raising a finger.
That's the way to go.
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 2:12pm On Mar 27, 2022
On top of all the "African disciplining, the average African from 12 years is corrupt.
A westerner will turn a new leaf because he wants to be a better person, an African will turn a new leaf because there is a likelihood to be caught and disgraced or jailed.

At 12 years an African child in boarding house will try to BRIBE the gate men to let them go out indiscriminately. At 12 introducing their classmates to cultism as long as they do not get caught. At 12 multiple abortions claiming to be virgins. Certified runs girl at 15.
Upon all the disciplining.

No, africans are not law- abiding, empathetic and less corrupt. It was over here I saw that on a bus younger people stand up to allow older people, pregnant women and disabled people to sit down. I never saw it in Nigeria.

Over here UPS and DHL drops your package in front of your door. The package remains there until you come home at night and pick it. It cannot happen in Nigeria. Since I started buying cars I have locked car doors less than 5 times. Sometimes I forget to lock my door.

Upon all our discipline.
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f):
What is the point of beating a 15 year old.
Any correction not given before 12 might be a waste as character is already formed. What were the parents doing all those years.

As much as the situation is sad I see a silver lining. The girl is not all that useless because she actually graduated, meaning she has some sense. She should channel the rejection into something good and make good use of her life.

She is not the one who banned her father from the house. She did the natural thing: if I was been beaten up the most natural thing would be to call a higher authority for help.
FamilyRe: When Your Children Call The Police For Disciplining Them. by Shokoloko(f): 1:39pm On Mar 27, 2022
The typical African parent is a bully. Children are beaten and tortured for no reason.
Children are beaten up for not understanding her schoolwork, Children are beaten up for getting sexually molested, Children are beaten up for crying from the previous beaten, Children are beaten up for not answering quickly enough, Children are beaten up for daring to have a different point of view.

In your example, how can a man and wife (two people) hit, tackle to the ground and beat the crap out of a 15 year old. Like 2 people to one person? Even if she was an adult and not their daughter, two people to one is an unfair situation.

What Nigerians and Africans refuse to learn is that violence destroys a country. See how all the violent countries are experiencing reduced GDP compared to those that are not. Africans will continue to create and breed monsters.

It will be very easy for a 15 year boy to rape and beat up a 6 year old child because he has been beaten to the point of trauma he feels its not a big deal, his mother's has beaten the house help to stupor, and his father has beaten his mother to stupor so violence is a part of life.
FamilyRe: Surviving Without Sex As A Single Mum... It's So Difficult by Shokoloko(f):
Optimistic4life:
I'm trying hard to live a life free from sin and sexual immorality and I am doing pretty well but of recent, my hormones/body have been raging and I am finding it difficult to cope.

It's 18months I have been separated and there is no getting back together.

Were you ever in my situation, how did you overcome without involving in sex/masturbation?

I just need some words of encouragement.

Its really not easy and it has become some sort of distraction.

The reason I do not want to have a male friend is because of my fear for God.
Implanon insert from your closest health care center will reduce sex drive by 50%. It's between 3500 and 5000 and will reduce your sex drive for 3 years before replacing

Look for spearmint tea in shops and drink daily.

Increase the amount of pepper in your personal meals.

Go stand in front of the mirror and talk to your body and ask its libido to be lowered. There is power in words.

Good luck
FamilyRe: My Marriage Of 10 Months Is Gradually Crashing by Shokoloko(f): 12:23pm On Mar 14, 2022
Are you going to pretend that you did not lock your wife out and force her to sleep outside on a bench while you were enjoying a bed in an air-conditioned room?
FamilyRe: Happy International Women's Day 2022 by Shokoloko(f): 1:17pm On Mar 08, 2022
sageb:
Happy women's day to the Nairaland Amazons

ModestGal
Ishilove
Shokoloko
Humbledbyhisgrace
Pocohantas
Angelacruz
Chairwoman
Ahnie
et al
Thank you so much Sageb.
God bless
FamilyRe: Where Did I Go Wrong To Receive Such Abuse In My Marriage? by Shokoloko(f): 6:53am On Mar 02, 2022
STORY CONTINUED............
True Life Story: Where Did I Go Wrong To Receive Such Abuse In My Marriage?

Good day Lively Stones,
Please I have these issues bothering me and feel if its enough to cause a bother, I should seek help. Its about my husband. He got into a building project that has gotten him into a lot of debts. We presently stay in a house bequeathed to me by my Father (late) , I am so grateful that my Father did that for me and also got me a good job before he departed this world.
I try to see to the maintenance of the building and also encourage him to but after sometime we both agreed we would leave (I understand its not easy for a man to do this and I am sincerely grateful he agreed we live there for these 6 years, at least we don’t bother about house rent in this expensive rent city we live) , we agreed to find a land and build a house of our own in our names. It has been a prayer point and I went as far as physically following him to get the present Land now being built.
However, during the documentation, I discovered he changed the title document to just his name only ,and not to the two of us as we both agreed. When I asked him about this, I got the shock of my life! My Husband told me its his first evidence as a man that provides shelter for his family so, I should not disturb him.
However, he didn’t stop there and this was when I became hurt: He went about it in an abusive and arrogant manner with me. He was so defiant and unremorseful about his breaking our agreement and I was psychologically abused over it and even other matters I never knew he resented me about..
He laid all sort of false allegations against me as to why he decided not to include my name. many other events happen that family members had to intervene. I even totally abandoned the Land matter and we had to thrash out other allegations he raised.. I remembered weeping bitterly when the matter was being resolved .and I was told that according to African tradition, I have to apologize whether right or wrong. I knelt down and did .
Two years going, I decided I would keep anything to my chest ,so as not to be having family members gather over our matter again. However, its been ups and downs for my husband. I engaged in several prayers and intercessions for him. God has been helping us but he still think the problems are too many for him, particularly, the debts.
I tried to encourage him but he began to resent my acts ,saying I should do more than I am doing and put funds down to help offset some of the debts he incurred on the building project. I truly don’t know who to turn to to help us again. However, he transfers aggression on me with all kinds of insults and to worsen it, he has withdrawn from home upkeep , but I thank God he’s able to pay the children’s school fees in all.
However, I am worried because , recently in one of his sessions of being upset and verbal insulting me, he said I am the source of his woes and I should stop praying for him! I was shocked and upset he could say such and I replied I would only be asking God for mercy for him for that and so many wrong insinuations against me.
I honestly try to avoid responding when he’s verbally insulting me , but this last time, I felt I was being manipulated and bullied so I decided to respond back. He was almost getting physical. But I felt better I spoke. Just worried if he hit me, what would have happen especially with the children witnessing such and family members getting to know..
Honestly, I began thinking of talking to one of my friends in his office if she can help me transfer him out of this city , maybe he needs that breathe. . but presently, I am talking to God about it and waiting for HIS leading if I should do that.
But why I am bothered is that, the children are witnessing these things and they complain of their dad’s anger issue. I try to explain to them that the debts issue is what he’s getting to him , but I know they understand more and can read in between the lines.. Family prayers have stopped, a lot of things we do together have stopped because he’s always upset about everything.

My husband does not know where and when to stop if he begins insulting me in anger. presently, he calls me selfish wife as I cannot help out with his debts and sincerely, I keep wondering how he’s thinking? Does he expect at this point I do bizarre things to get him out of them! I told him I cant and he withdrew from family upkeep.
I have spoken to him about his anger episodes, he promises to change but, here we go again! I am most shocked that he has tied his woes to me. Howhuh I pray for him, I cover him even when I perceive he has affairs, . I have taken over home upkeep and he still sees me as a problem in his life!
I truly don’t know what to think, please I just need to let it out here. I would appreciate advise on what to do . Thank you.
Christianity EtcRe: Ukraine: Afrcan Pastors Are Just Something Else by Shokoloko(f): 2:29pm On Mar 01, 2022
complexBoss12:
The most confusing subject, I have personally battled with in my head, for the greater part of my life, is whether God really exists or not??

If you observe closely, you would notice there is a strong supernatural force beyond your physical eyes. There are things that happen, that show you that a God should/must exist. Then, other things happen and you wonder why is God letting it happen??

But that's why they said you should have "faith" right?? Because you don't have to question, just believe. man's wisdom is foolishness before God. Then again, will God give you sense, and ask you not use it??
1. God is not in charge of this world. People think He is but He is not.
2. God gave Adam all dominion Gen 1:28
3. Later Adam gives all dominion to the devil. Even when the devil tells Jesus in Luke 4:6 "all have been given to me" Jesus does not tell the devil that he is lying.
4. A time is coming when Jesus will take back and return authority to his father.

Nairaland GeneralBefore The White Men Came - Afro-iranian Slavery by Shokoloko(op): 11:30pm On Feb 28, 2022
Before the white men came - Afro-Iranian slavery (c. 1502–1736 AD)

Between AD650 and AD1600, an average of 5,000 Africans were shipped out by the Arabs, making a rough total of 7.25 million.
Again, between 1600 and 1800, another 1.4 million Africans were shipped out by the Arabs. The 19th century represented the highest point of the Arabian trade where 12,000 Africans were shipped out every year. The total figure for the 19th century ALONE was 1.2 million slaves to Arabia.(1).
The majority of Afro-Iranians came to Iran via the Indian Ocean slave trade. Because of the dispersal of slaves throughout the Middle East and subcontinent, virtually every country bordering the Persian Gulf has a legacy of slavery and African population, like the Afro-Iraqis, Afro-Pakistanis, Afro-Kuwaitis, Afro-Omanis, Afro-Saudis , and so on.

Thus, women slaves in the Arab world were often turned into concubines living in harems, and rarely as wives, their children becoming free. A large number of male slaves and young boys were castrated and turned into eunuchs who kept watch over the harems. Castration was a particularly brutal operation with a survival rate of only 10%.(2)
The victims of castration were usually boys between 8-10 years old(3). This was called genetic warfare to prevent the African man from reproducing.
Moreover, while the European/New World slavers profited mainly from male labor, the Arabs saw profit in sexual satisfaction/reproductive potential.

Slavery persisted as a legal practice in Iran until 1929, and at the moment Afro-Iranians constitute 10-12% of the population of southern Iran(4)

Even to this day, Arab slavers are still at work in Sudan and Mauritania, buying and selling black Africans.

(1) https://newafricanmagazine.com/16616/
(2) https://newafricanmagazine.com/16616/
(3) https://books.google.ca/books?id=WdjvedBeMHYC&pg=PA73&lpg=PA73&dq=african+slaves+march+across+desert+to+iran&source=bl&ots=07HyE-nW05&sig=ACfU3U2xRJ7G6BWPImxXYvXiCuu7BUOVeQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi95b35tKP2AhVzlYkEHeHjAQkQ6AF6BAhLEAM#v=onepage&q=african%20slaves%20march%20across%20desert%20to%20iran&f=false
(4) https://ajammc.com/2012/06/20/the-afro-iranian-community-beyond-haji-firuz-blackface-slavery-bandari-music/


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