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Olominira:
More crises for Trump and an average American. This is unnecessary. Trump is committing a huge mistake by canceling the initial agreement reached with Iran.

Firstly, US can't even manage the ongoing crises she created in the past with Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Libya and others. Who's advising Trump? Crises in Libya is still a crisis in some parts of Europe. Germany already has millions of refugees from Syria. These are countries of smaller populations yet you seriously want to destabilize another country of 70-80 million people all at once.

The entire America with Europe would have a serious impact if Iran is set into crises. In fact, the entire world feel this impact because by the time 40 percent of oil output is cut off due to total blockage of Strait of Hormuz. The global market would respond immediately. This is not a wise choice. Even in Nigeria, a litre of petrol may go as far as N500

Last set of Christians annihilated by BH was a response to one of such foreign strikes by US President. So God alone is our defence in Nigeria.

It is sad to see people confuse uninspiring structures with development. Any 2 or more story building are tagged development. We don't ask the pertinent question of what was spent to put these structures in place and the maintainability of these structures.

Let me go deeper. Some times ago one of the churches in Nigeria built a structure similar to another govt structure in Abuja. The church spent less than 500 million Naira ( contractor profit margin included ) but the govt own cost over N20 billion. So if we are talking about development, at what cost did they come?
Did we spend money for 40 units of a thing to acquire just one unit? Fair bargain is a watch phrase when it comes to govt project.

Rekhina:
Pinkpussy dont divide we yorubas and fulanis pls ,i no you as a yoruba christian ...you pdp christians shoudnt be taken serious ...
Since these foreign herdsmen came to southwest ethno-political bond has been of an olympian height ,Pls igbos are our common enemies! They dont respect their kings ,we yorubas Do!

.islam is peace ,

Talking to ones self is a bad sign.

MuttleyLaff:
"For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear."
- 2 Timothy 4:3

"The easiest way to save and restore people is through love and not by attacks."
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by EnthronedbyGod: 10:42pm On Jul 27

"Why didnt Jesus then try to save and restore the Pharisees, the Scribes, teachers of law, Sadducees etcetera through love and not incessant attacks, hmm?"
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 10:58pm On Jul 27

You're correct, you arent OP, but just a "fan", so why dont you just back off, and leave OP to either account for himself/herself or keep his/her distance as already done before you took it upon yourself to poke nose in, hmm?

Musiwa of religious section.

Jamestown123:
U are stupid for saying that.

No substance just insult. Thanks.

Kingpee2:
I felt bad for her too when I watched it,I knew she has a big problem long ago when she couldn’t spell daughter correctly,this little things matter a whole lot ,her brain dwells just in her breast alone,I don’t hate her but I just don’t like it when someone is naturally dumb....

You are on smartphone where there is auto correction and detection for wrong spelling.
If not we for see how you sabi spell reach.

MuttleyLaff:

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OP shifted from "Jesus was never in confrontation with the Pharisees" and changed position to "His first problem with the Pharisees was in Matthew 9 and Mark 2". Now OP doesnt need a gofer to speak for him/her or represent him/her, neither do I intend to continue engaging with a third party or alter ego ID

Dangling of irrelevant facts doesn't move me. Plus I am not OP but a follower of a simple thread you are trying so hard to derail with your usual attitude.

Gbawe:
Indeed. Especially a shameless, decietful and corrupt excuse for a leader such as Nyarko !!! It is a tragedy people like him are still leading  Nigerians at the highest level. All we are seeing now is due to leadership failure caused by how, year in year out, kingmakers found it expedient to place 'gatekeepers' in charge instead of supporting those with the talent to move Nigeria forward. Nigeria is now doomed because of how very average and undeserving leaders , like Nyarko, imposed on Nigerians everywhere and over the years, are now unable to cope with a serious test only the best leaders can surmount.

When all fails, and you are found wanting, propaganda is next for our leaders. Is this not how the shameless Ringim claims only 7 died in the Kano attack while most reports put it conservatively at 150?

My advise to Igbo folks, and indeed all Southerners, is for them to leave that volatile region now !!!! You are collateral damage for an impotent and clueless Government being fought by fellow "owners of Nigeria" peeved that some thieves showed no honour.

When they subtly sold us Buhari and Tinubu.

This is obj's son being shot. Yusuf Buhari was riding bike while his father calls others lazy youths and even support killers.

numen:
The south does not know what it's enjoying right now! I can't imagine how life is for the people up north. If this government has any sense of responsibility, BH should be their utmost priority alongside Power. There is wanton waste of life in the north! For what?

So who will now bury those that came to bury the dead?

Even Jesus said "let the dead bury their dead". Remember when they did this to Igbo's in the early stage of BH ?

MuttleyLaff:
Nwanne, please dont take panadol for another person's headache nau. The other nwanne, just dropped blankets with Matthew 9 and Mark 2, without exactly specifying what verse(s) he is hinging his claim with that Jesus' first problem with the Pharisees was in Matthew 9 and Mark 2, You would have noticed that I didnt mind that, as I let that slide without holding it against him, but it seems you've self appointed yourself to be the mouthpiece for OP

Instead of doing the needful see where you are spinner ng it towards again. And you are Satan's mouthpiece or what exactly for you to participate in this? Guy back up you claims abeg or keep silent.

Maximus69:
Fine!

So why been disfellowshiped if the Church's decision was right?

Because according to the Bible an excommunicated member has been handed over to the devil! 1Timothy 1:20
If he later started his own Church only to come out saying this after 40 years, is he a repentant wrongdoer or an opportunist who just left the church to make money, by starting his own?

Surely he never left his former Church on a good note, so who ordained baba to be a Certified shepherd?

See dem...

Shepherd00:
And Jesusjnr has done it again. He feels sorry for the Holy Spirit because He is frustrated.

https://www.nairaland.com/5326450/frustration-holy-spirit


And this is the only true Christian o.

Lol

MuttleyLaff:
Nope, the problem, goes way way back and long away from Matthew 9 and Mark 2. EnthronedbyGod, I know you're itching to know the scriptural verse that attests to this, but maybe pride might get the better of you from asking

You dont like arguments, but I just dont do arguments. Anyway, as I previously have said, I know you're itching to know the scriptural verse that attests and confirms that the problem started way, way way back from Matthew 9 and Mark 2, but maybe pride might get the better of you from asking

You claimed such scriptures exist then go ahead to say pride won't let him ask of them. You are the one to back up your claims that such exist. Did OP ask you to provide reference of where the pharisee were confronting Jesus after making his own claims? No. He provided the references.

Cletus77:
You said Uganda is better than Nigeria, then y not iron out the facts?

Please start by supporting the bold with fact.
How old are u by the way?

Cletus77:
Abeg never compare Nigeria with Uganda..
I mean tell me ten things you know about the country

You are the one to tell what you know about it that makes Nigeria better than it to you. Stop trying to play smart by asking me to tell you something you should be telling the world.

Signing of documents.

Cletus77:
Bro..if it's a joke stop it

Please tell us more.

Funaki:
Revelation 21:8 KJV
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Your bible seems to be conflicting except there are various types of lies

You had to believe d bible in order to try n highlight the Revelation 21:8 part so are you saying the bible is wrong in Exodus?

wirinet:
This is why I sometimes don't believe it is actually humans behind some usernames in nairaland. They sound more like bots that repeat the same thing irrespective of topic.
This is the same Danjuma that is at odds with Buhari because of Fulani herdsmen. This same Danjuma has told people to defend themselves against Fulani herdsmen. But every topic must contain RUGA, even when we are talking of events that happened more than 50 years ago.

Who gave Danjuma power to arrest Ironsi?

SpaceTour:
Nigeria just dey finish African countries

Finished a country you aren't better than?

Two naija bloggers go just arrange and start e-war for some sentimental retweet and likes and they will even have temerity to bring it here.

Funaki:
so there's a lie that pleases God?

Yes. Read ur bible more. Read verses 17 & 20 of that chapter.

jesusjnr:
Because He lacks the Word of God on Earth, and in spite of His unprecedented powers without the Word of God He can do nothing.

For the Word of God is like the activation code which unlocks the power of the Holy Spirit and enables Him to express Himself.

So the word is limited.

They lied but pleased God because they lied out of fear of the Lord.

Why is this Spirit of God frustrated then and how He be given room to express Himself?

HigherEd:
I agree with you completely that private jets are mere vehicles of transportation. And I don't think anyone on this NL has ever advocated for jet setting ministries as I have. However there has to be regulations guiding against abuse. I see abuse already setting in!

And it would do us a lot of good if the church regulates itself before govt attempts to do so. As it is, Kumuyi has already sold everybody out. Kumuyi said he doesn't need a private jet to run a successful mission. And that is a killer reference. Kumuyi is one of the big 5 exporters of Christianity beyond the shores of Nigeria. If he claims he is not in need of a private jet to be mission relevant. It then becomes hard to defend the rest who are buying it.

We must also recognise that a jet is a means to accomplish a more productive mission. It should never be the first thing you buy the moment a couple of billions enter your account.

Also if you claim the church has inalienable rights to expend cash anyhow then government would state her right to collect taxes. And that struggling church in Ogbomoso which is struggling to pay rent would be hit by tax liabilities which was incurred by the irresponsible behaviour of wealthier churches.



Lastly CAN should be transformed into a National Supreme Council For Christian Affairs. It should have three branches consisting of Orthodox, Catholic, Pentecostals. Each branch should have its own rule guiding the definition its membership. Any intending christian ministry must register under any of the three branches and must follow membership codes. The reformed CAN should have powers to license, unlicense and disband erring ministries.

Who investigates/sanctions a General Overseer sleeping with a chorister? Reformed CAN
Who closes down a church whose 'pastor' makes members to eat grass? Reformed CAN



Let me tell you, for every negative news about Christianity, people lose faith in the church and extension Jesus. And until we make the church accountable within Christianedom we are heading for troubled times.

You should understand how tax works. Govt doesn't tax contribution but spending. There is a big big difference between when the church money is being contributed and when the church is spending it. If you tax the church then be ready to tax any group of persons who attempt to contribute funds for any cause. If me and you decide to contribute money to buy an item, it is the duty of the govt to tax that item at either its entry point into the country or from the manufacturer. This is done by making the manufacturer pay tax on profit if manufactured locally or charging some form of import duty. I can't comprehend why govt will want to tax or regulate a belief system. Maybe one day pastors will be mandated to raise the dead before being licences then.

HigherEd:
Not every pastor needs a jet... There are only 5 indigenous churches in Nigeria that can be accepted as Jet setting ministries by the virtue of the vastness of their congregations. If you don't have at least 1000 churches outside the shores of Nigeria then you do not need a jet. The ownership of a PJ by a church must be driven by needs rather than availability of funds. A jet is a very expensive vehicle to run, if you can't keep its maintenance cost below 0.1% of church income then you don't need it either.

RCCG
Winners Chapel
Christ Embassy
Mountain Of Fire Ministries
Deeper Life Church

This is why I'm advising govt to turn CAN into a self regulatory organization backed by Law, so as to check these excesses.
My recommendations for CAN's guideline for PJ ownership would include the following.

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1)Any Church intending to register a private jet must have at least 100 orphanages. Of which a minimum of 10% must be located in Nigeria.
2) Any Nigerian Church willing to register a PJ must have at least 1000 branches outside of Nigeria.(which justifies a church leadership's need to be on constant move)
3) Any Nigerian Church willing to run a PJ must have a minimum of any 100 of schools or health centers or drug rehabs or home for elderlies which are either completely free or charge not more than 5% of service cost.
4) Total cost of acquiring a private jet must not

a) exceed 2% of a church's total income for any year.
b) While its maintenance must not exceed 0.1% expenditure of total income for that year.
Section a) requirement can be nullified if the church directly ask for contribution for the PJ as opposed to using already collected charitable donations. Or if the Jet was a gift.
5) Any Church willing to run a PJ must pay all of its payable staff government approved minimum wage.
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Churches are tax exempt and it must remain that way. Flagrant display of extravagance would only be an invitation to taxation which would affect Orthodox and catholic churches immeasurably. We can't have a system where churches that don't have institutionalised help ministries run private jets. We can't have churches that don't pay staff well run private jets. We can't explain it to God and we can't explain it to Man.

There is no point regulating the properties of churches. The money being passed around in churches is a tiny fraction of what we have in the economy. Freedom is key is any society. What if a ministry has many stations but very few travels to do. Like an high tech based church that does a lot of electronic media presence instead of the traditional style?

Why bring PDP formula into APC. Remember this is not PDP based govt.

NwaAmaikpe:




Why do I consider this writeup overly prejudicial or rather sentimentally biased?

I'd have appreciated if you admonished fornicators to be cautious and conscious of their actions including the variable consequences of their choices, rather than a categorical judgement on them.
God loves who he loves and his ways are higher than the ways of man.

I've known fornicators who never picked an STI and went on to live longer and have even more successful lives than celebrated pastors.
An example at hand is Hugh Hefner and Myles Munroe.

I am a fornicator and I know I've been more fortunate than I deserve.

Does this mean we all are destined to be fortunate fornicators? Of course not!
When the rain drenches the lizard and the rat, they do not dry up at the same time.

Like Drake rightly pointed out, "everyone dies but not everyone lives".
So live your life.

We are all sinners, so if fornication is your conscious sin, fornicate wisely and pray for the grace to get over it.
I know I am a sinner who will still get punished equally for whatever sin I indulge in.
That's why I'd rather pick fornication above lying, because that one brings me pleasure.

Why will I come and shortchange myself bikonu?

Iniquity & Son Limited.

gobuchinny:
You are daft

All property can be divided between real property and personal property. Real property includes real estate, land and anything permanently affixed to it, and the bundle of legal rights related to the real estate. Any new development of land, such as constructing buildings, is known as an improvement

i wont discuss this issue of appreciation of fixed assets again with you..lets face the original discuss.

You lack the wisdom to comprehend economics and thats not my fault because you skipped the class in school..

What a load of shít.
So the land value will compensate for the huge subsidy being expended to keep the school going.

Zoharariel:
Count the number of Faith Academy Secondary Schools all across the length & breadth of Nigeria - they are more than 3,000.

Count the number of Kingdom Heritage Nursery & Primary Schools across Nigeria and in some other Afrikan Countries - they're more than 7,000.

Add Covenant University in Ota, Landmark University in Abuja & Landmark University in Omu-Aran to the mix.

What you will get is Billions of Naira & Dollars in assets whose primary source was "Tithes & Seed Offerings" siphoned & still been siphoned from gullible Nigerians who are deluded into thinking they're enriching the kingdom of God while they themselves languish in abject penury.

The question is - would Jesus Christ have amassed all these assets & wealth when he emphatically made it clear in the book of Mathew 19:21 - "If you want to be perfect, go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven"

Unfortunately, these bastards know there is no heaven, hence - the reason they want to die with their wealth on Earth.

You inflated the structures and for your info, those schools are being subsidized. The secondary sch in delta actually cost over a billion and the student fee can repay that in d next decade.