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Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 3:27am On Mar 26 |
Ohyoudidnt:There's nothing revelation about Jesus speaking at birth or Mary growing up in seclusion. infancy gospel of thomas and protoevangelium had it all written down. But the problem is how come the story of Jesus and Mary in the Quran were unheard of in the 1st century when the eye witnesses were alive. How come people started reading about these strories 150 yrs after the death of Mary and apostles. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 2:02am On Mar 26 |
Qasim6: So? What does above prove? That everyone was doing it made it right? When did slavery become a crime and immoral. 19th century? Does that mean it was a moral practice prior to 19th century. I keep saying it, if Jesus owed slaves, I will be the last to follow him. I can never put my faith in someone who cannot be best example of all times and in everything. Qasim6: So we now getting to a level where Muslims can't define woman anymore I thought its only LGBTQ that can't define woman, now Muslims have joined them. Qasim define woman. Who is a woman. Qasim6:There's nothing to expose. Muhammed's action speak for itself. Personally I don't have a problem with your prophet marrying a 6 year old because your quran condone it. The problem is I see sleeping with a child as an immoral act. Simple. I will never follow a prophet who is known to have slept with a child. Qasim6:Do terrorist have divine mandate to execute God's judgement on earth? If the answer is no, then they are committing murder. Anyway we are now in the dispensation of grace and not the law. So the era of instant judgement for disobedience is gone. Qasim6: God never told the Israelites what to to do with those young girls. Pls read the passage properly. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 1:37am On Mar 26 |
Qasim6: The only evidence of child marriage in ancient Arabic peninsula u could produce was a controversial one. Islamic scholars couldn't agree if the wedding actually took place. What a shame!!! That shows how deeply unpopular such pre teen arrangement marriage was even at that time. Ali, khuuthum father opposed the marriage because he considered his daughter was too young for such. Some scholars also claim the marriage didn't take place because she was too young. Scholars who said the marriage took place wrote Ali agreed only because he was threatened. Some scholars said it was another khuntum that married caliphate and not ali's daughter. What a big shame your own evidence testified against U. In a bid to validate nonsense, people end up becoming ridiculous. https://en.wikishia.net/view/Marriage_of_Umm_Kulthum_with_%27Umar_b._al-Khattab
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Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 1:10am On Mar 26 |
Qasim6: What's the etymology of the Aramaic word Talitha? It means to be small. Except you are an expert or proficient in ancient aramaic language, I'm sorry but I have to tell U to shove your opinion down your throat. Pls check for the meaning of etymology b4 u reply me.
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Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 12:41pm On Mar 25 |
Ohyoudidnt: Why did Qur'an copy from a forged gospel book. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 11:22am On Mar 25 |
Ohyoudidnt: So the protoevangelium and infancy gospel of Thomas are apocryphal gospel. This means their authenticity is doubtful. The were written late in the 2nd century, far removed from when Jesus or Mary lived. The letters are forgery because they are pseudopigraphia. Neither James nor Thomas wrote the letters. They contain strange gospel messages that were not part of the oral gospel known to the early Christian church. So if U want to base your faith on such unreliable books that's fine, but don't come here to tell me Mary is 12 yrs old because a forged book said so. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 10:58am On Mar 25 |
Ohyoudidnt: Pls study something b4 bringing it to debate. Deuterocanonical books has absolutely nothing to do with our argument. It has nothing to do with the infancy gospel of Thomas or protoevangelium. As at the time the deuterocanonical books were compiled, Jesus had not even been born not to talk of someone writing any gospel book about him. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 8:25am On Mar 25 |
Ohyoudidnt:Deuterocanonical books are old testament cannon related. Protoevangelium n gospel of Thomas are not considered deuterocanonical. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 8:05am On Mar 25 |
Qasim6: I don hear U. But Jesus saw a 12 yr old female and called her little girl. I'm sure the marriageable age in ancient Arabia peninsula isn't 12. I'm very sure. Na Muhammed just wanted to fulfil his immoral fantasy. If I'm wrong point to me who else got married at 12 in your literatures. Most 12 yrs old are flat chested, they still have nipple and not breast. They are not matured. What can they even offer u in marriage? People that can barely take care of themselves and now U expect them to shoulder bigger responsibility. Qasim6: My agenda?? The question is why should she be 12? Someone that was called woman by her big aunty. Instead we should ask those pushing the 12 narrative what's their agenda. Qasim6: Muslims are funny sha, attaching immorality of human life to God. All in a bid to exonerate Muhammed of his immoral act. Oga, God is the owner of life. He can take it anytime and anyhow without prior notice. God has absolute and ultimate sovereignty over his creation. There's nothing immoral about taking back what belongs to U and it's not immoral for God to recall back the souls he sent to planet earth. He owes the soul no explanation. God is not bound by any human moral fibre because he exist outside of such morality. The same way we humans are not bound by the code of conduct of the animal kingdom. I'm surprised U dont even know this. When we say Islam lacks sound theology, people will say we insulting islam Qasim6: Then U just threw your own Koran under the bus because the Qur'an said U can actually divorce a girl who is yet to attain menarche ie a pre teen girl can be get married and be kicked out according to your Qur'an. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 7:20am On Mar 25 |
Ohyoudidnt: I don hear U if U want hear me. I no get strength for back and forth argument. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 1:27am On Mar 25 |
Ohyoudidnt: Quit the game. This has been thoroughly thrashed. Mary wasn't 12 when she got pregnant. It's immoral to sleep with a 9 year old. Highly immoral. Assume the 9 yr old bride commited adultery. Will she be stoned to death according to shariah law? |
Religion / Re: I Am Confused About Religion by SIRTee15: 1:00am On Mar 25 |
Religion is simply about serving humanity. If U looking for religion, just look for one that resonate with your understanding of humanity and service. It could be Buddhism or modern African spirituality. Doesn't really matter.... But if U searching for the truth and afterlife, then know there's only ONE TRUTH and this is Jesus. He's the only person that guarantees eternal life. The beautiful thing is Jesus Christ offers you the assurance of afterlife NOW, the door to eternal life is in this life. Only a scammer will offer u result of a promise after death. Of course there's no way to know if you've been scammed or not Jesus said 'Now this is eternal life, that they may know you the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent'. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Christ Embassy Has Raised 50 People From The Dead - Chris Oyakhilome by SIRTee15: 9:06am On Mar 24 |
Kobojunkie: Your heresy on this platform is astounding. Yet U won't engage with sound Christians on this forum to cure u. What happened to 'if I could just touch the hem of his garment'. What about the healing of the centurion's faith ? Jesus said he's never seen such faith in Israel. Jesus told the syrophoenician woman that her request is granted because of her great faith. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 2:56am On Mar 24 |
Ohyoudidnt: In the bible a 12 year old male and female are both called boy and girl respectively. It's not just a mere coincidence that people of that age group are considered children. Infact maturity and physical development will put them as early puberty and it's no surprise that the Jewish culture regarded them as kids. Now Muslims want us to believe our of no where that Mary was married at 12 years. It defiles logic when applied contextually to biblical understanding of Jewish culture. The book of ezekiel described a girl who just entered puberty was left alone to mature. Then after she became fully matured, there was discussion about a groom for her. This depicts girls are not shipped off to husband's house until the complete puberty which is at least 16 yrs. The source of mary's 12 yr old age was the Apocrypha protoevangelium of James and infancy gospel of Thomas, books written late in the 2nd century. These books pushed the concept that Mary was a perpetual lifelong virgin by claiming she got pregnant very young this couldn't have known any man and Joseph was a very old man who had no physical desire of Mary thus never slept with her. It's noteworthy to mention the Qur'an copied a lot from theses false books written more than 150 hrs after the life of Jesus. The Protoevangelium especially was used to create the stories of Mary which are found in the Quran. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 2:38am On Mar 24 |
Ohyoudidnt: U just quoted the bible. I'm asking U where did U learn that the word woman can be used for any female as a sign of adoration even if 10 yrs. That's my question. Elizabeth called Mary woman. A woman is a female who have completed puberty....at least she must have regular period and 2 developed breasts. 12 years old don't have it. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 9:04pm On Mar 23 |
Ohyoudidnt: Cite a reference. U are not a scholar or expert in Jewish culture. Your opinion counts for nothing. |
Romance / Re: I Sent Her Out Of My House Late In The Night: Did I Do The Right Thing? by SIRTee15: 7:27pm On Mar 23 |
AyobamiOluwole: U took a big risk sending her out of your house at midnight. What if she was kidnapped or had a gunshot or just disappeared. She could be killed that night and her body later discovered in the morning with some parts missing. Bro U will have lots of explanation to do and the best possible scenario is spending months in jail while u fight your innocence. Remember people knew she came to see U and U were the last known person she was seen with. Trust me the outcome won't be funny at all. Trust police to even torture u just to extract imaginary information from U. 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 7:00pm On Mar 23 |
Ohyoudidnt: What happened to the Pharisees and scribes who killed James. What was the reaction of the masses to the death of James the just. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 6:46pm On Mar 23 |
Ohyoudidnt: Define puberty. Is an average 12 yr old girl flat chested or full breasted? Is development of the breast a necessity for womanhood. Jesus calling a 12 year old a little girl means she's a girl. You don't call a 22 year old woman little girl. Too many bogus claim here. No Jewish girl marry at onset of puberty. If U have evidence, bring one otherwise U lying. In ancient cultures, the most important physical attributes to determine a female readiness for marriage is menstruation and development of the breast. An average 12 year old has none of this. Try harder. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 6:41pm On Mar 23 |
Ohyoudidnt: Define puberty. Is an average 12 yr old girl flat chested or full breasted? Is development of the breast a necessity for womanhood. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 6:37pm On Mar 23 |
Ohyoudidnt: Trinity is very easy to explain. It's like bread and butter. The question is are U willing to accept the explanation? Now let's start with some definitions. Tell me what is a being, what is a person. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 6:05pm On Mar 23 |
Ohyoudidnt: Mary was called a woman by Elizabeth ' blessed at thou among all women'. This shows Mary must have completed puberty by the time she got pregnant. Jesus called a 12 year old female a little girl- jarius daughter. This shows a 12 yr old female is considered a girl in the 1st century AD JEWISH tradition. Jesus was called a boy when he was 12 years old. So U may have to try harder with your dawahgandist. U should know by now this won't fly with me. Look here I don't have a problem with Muhammed sleeping with a 9 year old, it's not my headache. Though I believe it's immoral to sleep with a 9 yr old girl, even your fasting exception proves it. It only shows Muhammed is not a prophet of all time but for his time. Sex and pregnancy should be the ultimate initiation of a female into adult hood. A girl has no business having sex. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 10:46am On Mar 23 |
AntiChristian: Am not surprised, U never make sense for one day. We are talking about maturity here n physical development if a child....both are necessary for marriage and fasting. According to U, an 8 year old girl body isn't developed to withstand the stress from fasting but it's ok for that body to be plummeted every night in the other room. Do U know people actually faint from sex? Do U know disproportionate di.ck size can cause vaginal tear n damage the womb. Have U ever thought why your Aisha never got pregnant? |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 11:49pm On Mar 22 |
Ohyoudidnt: All source are from your own literature. Sahih bukhari and sahih Muslim Aisha was alleged to be tiny when she married Muhammed that people didn't know she was on a camel. Aisha played with dolls, Aisha and her friends also played with dolls. All these point to a pre teen girl. All these talk about calculations of age is different on ancient Arabia doesn't make sense. Did they calculate the other characters in the Koran in such manner? So are U saying Muhammed was more than 40 when he received his first revelation? I don't understand why U Muslims deny this facts about Aisha. Your Koran approves of pre teen marriage. It says a man can divorce his wife who's yet to commence menstruation!!!! That's a pre teen girl my friend. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 11:17pm On Mar 22 |
Ohyoudidnt:At age 6!!!! Aisha has fulfilled what requirements at age 6. Is she a prodigy or what!!!!! Was she allowed to fast at age 6? Is she not playing with dolls at age 9? What does that tell U about her level of maturity. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 8:35pm On Mar 22 |
Ohyoudidnt: https://www.nairaland.com/8038195/what-age-should-child-start |
Romance / Re: What A Simp Told Me Today About Brideprice by SIRTee15: 7:53pm On Mar 22 |
Bride price according to native custom and supported by the bible should only be for maiden In fact according to bible, who so ever disvirgin a woman should be the one to pay the price. Even if he doesn't eventually marry her, he should still pay the worth of the dowry. Modern day bride price is a desecration to the land. It's high time we end it if present day realities will not make the intent of the practice feasible. A man owe the woman's family nothing for marrying their daughter, he should only be mandated not to maltreat her. I come in peace. 7 Likes |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 7:20pm On Mar 22 |
TenQ: Na serious abracadabra |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 6:36pm On Mar 22 |
gaskiyamagana: 1. Possibly supernatural so far as the person is a theist. The problem is if there are no human witness to such supernatural claim, how can we believe him? How are we sure he's not hallucinating? Or lying? 2. There's nothing wrong in drinking palm wine. It's a natural product. God will not make anything evil. Excesses is what God frown upon. Look at weed, a natural plant. For long time it was demonised. Now we realised cannabis is a actually good for seizures, chronic pain, neuropathic pain, some symptoms associated with multiple sclerosis. Everything has it's good side. Excess is what God frowns upon. Even food and water. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 4:22pm On Mar 22 |
I read an interesting islamic literature on front-page where it says children are not allowed to fast during the month of Ramadan. So my question to our Muslims colleagues... If a 6 year old girl is not matured enough to fast, how come she is matured enough to get married. If a 9 year old girl is not fully developed enough to fast for just 28 days, how come she's fully developed enough to have sex all year round. It's not making sense, I need an enlightened Muslim to demystify the mystery. Pls no insult , remember it's the month of Ramadan. If I don't know the answer, just pass. Thank U. Cc honesttalk, antiChristian, Ohyoudidn't, expanse, LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, Gaskiyamagana, drlateef, ,iamrealdeji madridguy, Explore2xmore Qasim6 ahmedio2017 |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 11:41am On Mar 19 |
Ohyoudidnt: Let me ask U a question . Is it that when people bring evidence here U don't read it or U refuse to accept it the reality. I already brought here evidence that the Hebrew bible is called the Torah. Yet U continue in your ignorant delusion repeating the same thing over and over as if they change anything. The Jews called their book Torah. Why are U challenging them.
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Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 11:38am On Mar 19 |
Ohyoudidnt: So why is the book of Job not in the Torah. Job existed before Abraham. |
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