Qasim6:


My guy stop wasting your time, stop looking for your 3 in 1 God in the Tanakh/ Old testament, it is not there.

You have no leg to stand on.

Ok I've heard U.
But explain in the tanakh why Manoah will see the angel of the LORD and conclude he's God.
That's my question. Leave 3 in 1 aside.

If U don't know ask your fellow Muslims colleagues to help U.

What I'm doing now is teaching u the scriptures. Leave the Nicene creed alone.

Qasim6:


You trinitarians won't cease to amaze.

You can even spot your manmade doctrine from that verse?

Let me help you, smash that trinitarian lenses you are putting on and re-read that verse.

Still no response despite 2 evidence of manifestation of God in more one person.

Let me give u 3rd evidence.

Judges 13

20 As the flame blazed up from the altar toward heaven, the angel of the Lord ascended in the flame. Seeing this, Manoah and his wife fell with their faces to the ground. 21 When the angel of the Lord did not show himself again to Manoah and his wife, Manoah realized that it was the angel of the Lord.

22 “We are doomed to die!” he said to his wife. “We have seen God!”

Now the question is why did Manoah- Samson's father realised he saw the angel of the LORD and conclude he's God.
Why would he conclude the angel of the LORD is God.

TenQ:
How about this

Your prophet said:




Sahih Muslim 758a
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Our Lord, the Blessed and the Exalted, descends every night to the lowest heaven when one-third of the latter part of the night is left, and says: Who supplicates Me so that I may answer him? Who asks Me so that I may give to him? Who asks Me forgiveness so that I may forgive him?

If the earth was flat, this is possible but the earth is spherical!

It means that Allah is trapped perpetually on the earth

Is this hadith a fabrication of Mohammed?

Ohyoudidn't and honesttalk, the sound Islamist scholars here...I want U to explain this hadith.
Christians apologist use to say it but I didn't understand it until now.
Thanks TenQ.

Since we know when it's night in one hemisphere of the earth, it's day on the other half; and then vice versa.

That means Allah is forever trapped in the lowest heaven since there's forever night on earth.
It shows Allah or Muhammed or hadith writers believe in a flat earth.

Ironically this is not a problem in Christianity because we believe God is a spirit which mean he's omnipresent. He can be on all levels of heaven at the same time.


TenQ pls show me verse in the Koran that says this....U know some Muslims will simply reject it because it's hadith and claim it's weak.

Expanse2020:

But you keep decieving yourself because you know what they wrote there and you can see that Jesus even nullify what John said and even checkmate John there...
Ok let assuming the spirit come down as a dove people who are there saw it wright and they heard the voice but Jésùs himself told them no one can hear the voice of the God and also told John to short up about what he doesn't know so why are you arguing blantly

Where did Jesus say 'no one can hear the voice the God'
Show me where Jesus say no one can hear God's voice.

Pls don't got to John 5 because what Jesus said is 'You can never hear the voice of God'. That is a direct speech to the You.

There's a big difference btw You and no one. This is the reason why British govt insist on IELTS b4 coming to their country because they know comprehension is a big issue amongst Nigerians

All prophet heard the voice of God....all. so how can Jesus then say no one can hear the voice of God.

I repeat, the only prophet who didn't hear the voice of God was Muhammed. That shows he's a fake prophet.

Expanse2020:

How could you said I put word on Jesus mouth 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is what Jesus said
The Father who sent me, confirmed me. And you missed it. You never heard his voice, you never saw his appearance.
So where did I put word on his mouth

Immediately after the pabtism you said a dove and a voice come out of heaven and there is people there at as witness wright
But when they asked Jesus he told the you never hear the voice or sees is appearance

Don't you see the verses are contradicting

Then after he said that he even shun John that what he heard was not from God that his memory had disappear... He doesn't have knowledge about what he his saying


Jesus himself claimed they never hear God or sees God and you are defending nothing
Common

U becoming incoherent. I think we just wasting time now.
You be been busted once again.

U kept skipping the phrase 'spirit of God' in Mathew 3. Whether it's deliberate I don't know. But what's certain is that spirit of God belongs to someone- who is the owner of the spirit.

In John 5 U quoted, who was Jesus speaking to....
Are are the 'You' Jesus was referring to....

Either answer the questions otherwise I will ignore u.
Don't have time for waffling....

Expanse2020:

A 🕊️ came out and a voice came out does that mean it's voice God
Ok
Explain the verse after the pabtism Jesus himself said no one has hear God voice I. Your own statement

At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him.

Who is the owner of that spirit, that's my question.
Who did Jesus say is his father?

Jesus didnt say no one has heard the voice of the father, that's you lying agaisnt Jesus and putting words in his mouth.
Jesus said You have never heard his voice- Jesus was talking to the pharisees. Prophets of GOD including Abraham and Moses heard from God. The only prophet who never heard the voice of God was muhammed.

Expanse2020:

A voice come down doesn't mean it's a God voice because Jesus clearly stated it that nobody ever hear the God...so if nobody ever hear the God voice definitely John and Mattew are lier. Then according to one of the verse you coated here some people even said it was an angel voice 🤣🤣🤣🤣 abeggiii save your breath

So who has the spirit that descended from heaven. The spirit must belong to someone in heaven, isn't it?
So who is the owner...you tell me.

The spirit of God indicates the presence of God. If the spirit of God came down from heaven into the son, who is speaking in heaven? As U can see, that's Trinity.

Psalm 139.7

Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?
8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.



Again show me where Moses or any elder called Jesus my son. Just one verse.

Expanse2020:

May you should read your bible well well because he said a voice came down to earth, whose voice is... because God didn't said that it his voice and Jesus confirm it that what John and Mattew said was rubbished because nobody's has ever seen God or hear his voice don't you found the verses contradicting each other

No contradiction at all. Jesus was speaking to the Pharisee in John 5, I already explained. And the context was given.

Show me any of the FF that has the spirit of God
Among people from(who are in ) heaven we have Abraham, Moses, Jacobs Angel your 24 elders and alot of people who voice is that among them.

Which one of them has the spirit of God? because it was the spirit of God that descended from heaven into Jesus, not spirit of Moses, angel or elders.

Show me any verse in the bible where Moses, angels, or elders called Jesus my son. Just one verse.

Expanse2020:

I taught you know bible alaye babanla olodo you be oooo😂😂😂😂😂

i]Mat 3.16
And a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased.”[/i]
Whose voice is that😂😂😂😂😂
Among people from(who are in ) heaven we have Abraham, Moses, Jacobs Angel your 24 elders and alot of people who voice is that among them
Bros J this guy lied againt you sir
Brother Jesus please come and tell us the truth sir, is it the voice of your father
Bros J be like don't mind Mattew and John
open your bible to John 5 vs 37-38

37-38“. But the witness that really confirms me far exceeds John’s witness.(GBAM!!!) It’s the work the Father gave me to complete. These very tasks, as I go about completing them, confirm that the Father, in fact, sent me. The Father who sent me, confirmed me. And you missed it. LET ZOOM IN🧐🧐🧐

You never heard his voice, you never saw his appearance.
Talking to John again (Sir tee the empty head 🤣🤣🤣)There is nothing left in your memory of his Message because you do not take his Messenger seriously.
Na Jesus talk am óò no be me óò🙌

Matthew 3

16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

So who among the heavenly hosts U mentioned has the spirit of God.
Angels, Patriarch, elders or the FATHER.


In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

Jesus said he's a son to who? Father, patriarch, angels or elders.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

He said to them, “And who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus answered him, “You are blessed, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but my Father in heaven!” (Matthew 16:15-17).


So I really don't understand the correlation of my beloved son to elders or angels. There's only one person who say such in heaven and that's the Father.

In John 5 Jesus said this to the Pharisees.

[i] And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form, 38 nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent.

Jesus also reiterated above in book of Matthew

MAT 13:13 This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.

MAT 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and [their] ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed

Jesus made it clear that the Pharisees don't hear because they cant- they need to believe in the one the Father sent but they rejected him.
So they can neither see nor hear from God.

Pharisees existed at a times the shikenah Glory of God had departed from the temple and the priest no longer have any direct contact or relationship with God. The Pharisees were not receiving any revelation from God either. They were waiting for the Messiah to open up that pathway of communication btw mankind and God. That Messiah was Jesus. Instead of the Pharisees to embrace jesus so they could here from the Father, they rejected him and that was what Jesus was explaining in the passage.


However Jesus affirmed his source and that people can once again hear from the father through him. An example is John 12.

28 Father, glorify your name!”

Then a voice came from heaven, “I have glorified it, and will glorify it again.” 29 The crowd that was there and heard it said it had thundered; others said an angel had spoken to him.

30 Jesus said, “This voice was for your benefit, not mine. 31 Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. 32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”

Expanse2020:

Where did God call JESUS his son in the bible
Did Jesus ever see God
Where did Jesus tell you I am your God

Mat 3.16
And a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased.”

John 12

28 Father, glorify your name!”

Then a voice came from heaven, “I have glorified it, and will glorify it again.” 29 The crowd that was there and heard it said it had thundered; others said an angel had spoken to him.

30 Jesus said, “This voice was for your benefit, not mine.

ahmedio2017:



10 commandments, Jesus Christ PBUH said I have not come to abolished the laws but to amend it.


Jesus Christ PBUH said I have not come to fulfill my own will if not he that sent me......

So what is the will of the Father Jesus came to fulfil ..
Let's have a look...

John 6
38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

So the question is if U admit Jesus came to do the will of the Father, why are not following that same will?
Why are being disobedient to the will of the Father?

ahmedio2017:


1. Allah is an Arabic language which means God.

2. Allah is in the heaven sitting on the throne of Al-harashi. He sees everything both in the heaven and earth. He knows everything both open and hidden. Allahu Akbar. He is the greatest.

3. Muslims those who believed and do good will be be privileged to see the Almighty God on the day of judgement. Not everyone will have the opportunity to do that OKAY?

4. Which one is Allah changing shape, no one has ever set his eyes on him b4 so no one can actually says this is how God is. So this is not a point.

5. Allah is the mighty one, he created heaven and the earth, he has the power to do all things that he wishes, he has the ability to do all things. He knows all things. So this is not a point too. He created heaven and the earth and all things inside that alone shows how powerful God is.

6. Tawhid is a fundamental concept in Islamic psychology that refers to the oneness of Allah and the belief that everything in the universe is connected to Allah (SWT). Tawhid is derived from the Arabic word “wahid” which means one.

Iblis is one of the angels of Allah, he was created by God, God commanded him to bow down for Adam which he refused and since then he has turned to Satan. Although God is all knowing, that's is one of the purpose of iblis in the first instance because God is all knowing.......


Are you now cleared? Allah is One and all prophet of God preaches the oneness of God. Allah is unique. He created Adam with his word kunfayekun meaning be and it shall be. Adam has no father neither does he have mother, he created Jesus Christ PBUH with his word. He created YOU with his word so Allah is great and he's the only one that is worthy of worshiping says Jesus Christ PBUH.....

That's why I said you Christians didn't believed in Jesus Christ PBUH. You need to believe in him and all other prophets so that you can be successful.

Tawhid means nothing. One God is meaningless. Knowing there's one God has no weight in any theological concept.
Satan acknowledge there is one God but he was punished by God.
Cain knew of only one God but he was banished from God's sight.
Zoroastrian is the first monotheistic religion, it existed thousands of years before any Abrahamic faith yet it's not considered a true religion.
Orunmila believes in One God according to Yoruba pantheon concept. Why are Yorubas not following orunmila since he preached one God?
So your one God one God mantra lacks depth and makes no sense.

The issue is who is this one God, how does he want us to worship him. What are his laws and doctrines.
What is the truth about this one God and how do we follow him?

That is the question my friend. Not shouting one God one God up and down.

Qasim6:


You trinitarians won't cease to amaze.

You can even spot your manmade doctrine from that verse?

Let me help you, smashed that trinitarian lenses you are putting on and re-read that verse.

Still no answer. Ok, let's move.

Let's see if trinity is actually in the scriptures or was generated artificially by Christians.

Let's look at another verse in the book of Genesis. Remember genesis was written by Jews who don't believe in trinity.

7 The angel of the LORD found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur. 8 And he said, “Hagar, slave of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going
“I’m running away from my mistress Sarai,” she answered.

9 Then the angel of the LORD told her, “Go back to your mistress and submit to her.” 10 The angel added, “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”......

13 Hagar gave this name to YAHWEH who spoke to her: “You are the God who sees me,” for she said, “I have now seen the One who sees me.” 14 That is why the well was called Beer Lahai Roi- well of the Living One who sees me. is still there, between Kadesh and Bered.



Now explain to me why Hagar is calling the angel of the Lord the God Almighty, el Roi- the Living one.

Qasim6:


You trinitarians won't cease to amaze.

You can even spot your manmade doctrine from that verse?

Let me help you, smashed that trinitarian lenses you are putting on and re-read that verse.

Still waiting for your response. Gen 19.23

Qasim6:


You trinitarians won't cease to amaze.

You can even spot your manmade doctrine from that verse?

Let me help you, smashed that trinitarian lenses you are putting on and re-read that verse.

Let me help u.

And Yahweh rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Yahweh out of heaven,


The verse mentioned 2 Yahweh, one on earth and one in heaven. Pls read genesis 18 and 19 for context.
This is the book of Genesis written by Jews who don't believe in trinity.

It's not enough to tell me to remove my trinity lenses. I don't have one.
It's about interpreting the verse of the book I believe. There are clearly 2 Yahweh spoken about here. One on earth and the other in heaven.
This is not even trinity in pure sense but manifestation of God in more than one person that Muslims claim is not in the bible.
If what I've written is incorrect, then explain the verse to me, help me remove the trinity from the verse. Thank U.

NB Both Jeremiah and Amos mentioned the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and they retained the 2 Yahweh identity in their story.

Qasim6:
Being a trinitarian is the worst thing that can happen to any one that believe in God.

You are even trying hard to poke holes into the concept of Oneness of God, the concept adhered by Abraham, Moses and Jesus.

As daft as you are, you want to destroy the fact that Allah is God almighty, even your god call his God Elaha, and Arab Christians call God Allah.

My guy, u can only keep exposing ursef as the semi-pagan that you are.

Since trinity makes no sense maybe U that have sense can explain this verse to me...

Genesis 19
24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

Pls don't tell me the verse is corrupt. Thank U.

Expanse2020:

Yahaya mean Allah is gracious/merciful

My God is gracious/merciful

Your maybe Yahweh is 3 in 1 God who knows ...

TenQ see the mor.on u wasting your time on....
U can see how he's struggling to answer one simple question.
Obviously he's asked his sheik and imams they don't have any answer for him.

Why is Allah's prophet called Yahweh IS MY God.

Expanse or whatever u call yourself, go and look for the answer to my question and come back here to respond.
Until then don't mention me. As I said earlier U are a waste of time.

Expanse2020:

I know because you don't have a card to play again

Yahweh is trigo........
I showed you fact and you can disproof it

Yahaya mean Allah is gracious


Your Jesus may be Yahweh pagan
But Allah is Allah,; the most gracious and merciful
Allah is not Pagan Yahweh

I'm asking asking about Elijah!!! Are U blind
Why is your prophet in the Koran bearing my God is Yahweh

honesttalk21:


The historical name of Jesus (Ιησούς) in Amaraic was Yeshua ישוע or (ܝܫܘܥ) in Classical Syriac. In Eastern Syriac dialects there is the variation Isho (ܝܫܘܥ) written the same as Yeshua.

Then what's Jesus name in Hebrew?
Good we have now clarified that Jesus never called himself Isho.
So tell us how Muhammed got the name ISA?

honesttalk21:


The historical name of Jesus (Ιησούς) in Amaraic was Yeshua ישוע or (ܝܫܘܥ) in Classical Syriac. In Eastern Syriac dialects there is the variation Isho (ܝܫܘܥ) written the same as Yeshua.

Then what's Jesus name in Hebrew?

Expanse2020:

Yehesua never preach Trinity
Oh isreal worship the true one God
I cannot do anything except the Will of my father
I am only the messenger of the God
No body is good except my father

It was Paul who preached trinity
God of father
God of son
And holy spirit Abi na holy fanta
🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂

As for the God he only asked us to worship him alone not to ascribe partner to him

Don't worry....
Answer my question on why Elijah is called Yahweh IS MY GOD
and I will show u where Jesus affirmed a triune God.

Your mouth is sharper is sharper than your Brain. Very soon I will be ignoring u.

honesttalk21:


You say or said:



Evidence for Isho presented.

Your ChatGPT entries are quite laughable. Excuse me.

Jesus was called Isho(Aramaic) not Yeshua(Hebrew) in his everyday life!
If you Google "What was Jesus's real name" you will get a lot of misinformation. Most of the results will say it was Yeshua. For starters, Jesus did not speak Hebrew, he spoke Aramaic. The people in his everyday life were not calling him Yeshua, they were calling him Isho. I speak a little bit of Neo-Aramaic/Syriac and we pronounce Isho as E-Show. It's actually a very commonly used name among Neo-Aramaic/Syriac speaking Christians.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/f298jj/jesus_was_called_ishoaramaic_not_yeshuahebrew_in/

Jesus’ name from Yeshua Hamashiach got Hellenized from the Greek word “IZEUS” or son of Zeus. This, of course, would be a far cry from proper theology if we took Jesus’ name to mean “Son of Zeus.”


https://www.christianity.com/wiki/jesus-christ/is-yeshua-hamashiach-the-proper-hebrew-name-for-jesus-christ.html


The name “Jesus” itself is an anglicized version of the Greek name “Iesous,” which in turn is a transliteration of the Aramaic name “Yeshua.” Therefore, “Isho” is considered to be a more accurate representation of Jesus’ name in his native language.

In Aramaic, “Isho” means “salvation” or “savior,” which reflects the central role that Jesus plays in Christian theology as the savior of humanity.

It however may not matter as much as adhering to his true and actual teaching.

Now I will bring evidence from Jewish literature who are unbias on this matter to confirm the original name of Jesus.

https://www.oneforisrael.org/bible-based-teaching-from-israel/jesus-vs-yeshua/

https://weekly.israelbiblecenter.com/jesus-hebrew-name-yeshua-yahshua

https://www.jewishvoice.org/read/blog/what-jesus-name-hebrew

honesttalk21:


You say or said:



Evidence for Isho presented.

Your ChatGPT entries are quite laughable. Excuse me.

Jesus was called Isho(Aramaic) not Yeshua(Hebrew) in his everyday life!
If you Google "What was Jesus's real name" you will get a lot of misinformation. Most of the results will say it was Yeshua. For starters, Jesus did not speak Hebrew, he spoke Aramaic. The people in his everyday life were not calling him Yeshua, they were calling him Isho. I speak a little bit of Neo-Aramaic/Syriac and we pronounce Isho as E-Show. It's actually a very commonly used name among Neo-Aramaic/Syriac speaking Christians.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/f298jj/jesus_was_called_ishoaramaic_not_yeshuahebrew_in/

Why would U bring someone's opinion on Reddit as evidence to a debate. It makes no sense and it shows how desperate U are.

It's like me bringing someone's opinion on Facebook or nairaland as evidence here.
That's laffable.

Except U think white people's comment are factual and contains no error. In that case, should we say U are a white man worshipper.

honesttalk21:


You say or said:



Evidence for Isho presented.

Your ChatGPT entries are quite laughable. Excuse me.

Jesus was called Isho(Aramaic) not Yeshua(Hebrew) in his everyday life!
If you Google "What was Jesus's real name" you will get a lot of misinformation. Most of the results will say it was Yeshua. For starters, Jesus did not speak Hebrew, he spoke Aramaic. The people in his everyday life were not calling him Yeshua, they were calling him Isho. I speak a little bit of Neo-Aramaic/Syriac and we pronounce Isho as E-Show. It's actually a very commonly used name among Neo-Aramaic/Syriac speaking Christians.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/f298jj/jesus_was_called_ishoaramaic_not_yeshuahebrew_in/

Jesus’ name from Yeshua Hamashiach got Hellenized from the Greek word “IZEUS” or son of Zeus. This, of course, would be a far cry from proper theology if we took Jesus’ name to mean “Son of Zeus.”


https://www.christianity.com/wiki/jesus-christ/is-yeshua-hamashiach-the-proper-hebrew-name-for-jesus-christ.html


The name “Jesus” itself is an anglicized version of the Greek name “Iesous,” which in turn is a transliteration of the Aramaic name “Yeshua.” Therefore, “Isho” is considered to be a more accurate representation of Jesus’ name in his native language.

In Aramaic, “Isho” means “salvation” or “savior,” which reflects the central role that Jesus plays in Christian theology as the savior of humanity.

It however may not matter as much as adhering to his true and actual teaching.

Honesttalk is very funny.
He rejected chatgpt but went to Reddit to bring someone's opinion as evidence. Are u serious!!!!
Chatgpt generates its information from academic literatures and Scholastic work.
But U rejected that and went to Reddit to bring me an opinion of a layman
U can do better...

The 2nd article u brought clearly confirmed the original name of Jesus is Yeoshua hamasiach.
Did U even read it at all.

I'm not here to debate the name Jesus. It's irrelevant to topic. It's a derived name and the Saviour was never called by that name. Nobody ever said he was called Jesus.
We are interested in the name Allah gave Muhammed. That's the fraud we want to expose.

honesttalk21:


You say or said:



Evidence for Isho presented.

Your ChatGPT entries are quite laughable. Excuse me.

Jesus was called Isho(Aramaic) not Yeshua(Hebrew) in his everyday life!
If you Google "What was Jesus's real name" you will get a lot of misinformation. Most of the results will say it was Yeshua. For starters, Jesus did not speak Hebrew, he spoke Aramaic. The people in his everyday life were not calling him Yeshua, they were calling him Isho. I speak a little bit of Neo-Aramaic/Syriac and we pronounce Isho as E-Show. It's actually a very commonly used name among Neo-Aramaic/Syriac speaking Christians.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/f298jj/jesus_was_called_ishoaramaic_not_yeshuahebrew_in/

Jesus’ name from Yeshua Hamashiach got Hellenized from the Greek word “IZEUS” or son of Zeus. This, of course, would be a far cry from proper theology if we took Jesus’ name to mean “Son of Zeus.”


https://www.christianity.com/wiki/jesus-christ/is-yeshua-hamashiach-the-proper-hebrew-name-for-jesus-christ.html


The name “Jesus” itself is an anglicized version of the Greek name “Iesous,” which in turn is a transliteration of the Aramaic name “Yeshua.” Therefore, “Isho” is considered to be a more accurate representation of Jesus’ name in his native language.

In Aramaic, “Isho” means “salvation” or “savior,” which reflects the central role that Jesus plays in Christian theology as the savior of humanity.

It however may not matter as much as adhering to his true and actual teaching.

Guy I said Jesus spoke Palestinian Aramaic not Syriac Aramaic. Do U know the difference.
Aramaic has different dialect. The one spoken in eastern Semitic region is different from the western Semite region where Jesus came from.

Jesus never spoke Syriac Aramaic, so how can he be called Isho when he never spoke the dialect where the name Isho came from.

Chat gpt is 99% accurate. Your statement here shows u don't even understand why Jesus couldn't have been called Isho.

My advice is for U to show and study the origin of Aramaic and then find out how Jews suddenly start speaking Aramaic and not Hebrew.

You said Jesus didn't speak Hebrew, once again u expose your ignorance here. Jesus went to synagogues and read the Torah....in what language do U think the Torah were written? Hebrew or Aramaic?

So many things wrong with your claim. Finally ask yourself how the Arab Christians called Jesus Yasu even b4 Muhammed came on stage.

All of a sudden the scholars are wrong but when it comes to Yahweh they are right.

See someone who wants to challenge chatgpt. U can't even get your facts right.
Your arrogance is blinding. U better take it off and see the light.

Expanse2020:

God bless you my brother they will argue till tomorrow that Jesus is pronounce Yehesua
Jesus was form from PAGAn Yahweh 3 in 1 God the guys self was named Zeus, Eassus gradually changed to Jesus.

Be like say U blind.
Jesus name at birth is Yeoshua. I dont know where U get essau or whatever nonsense u writing here.

Even scholars do not agree with your ISA name. They believe it's fictitious.

Expanse2020:

So you actually acknowledge your pagan God as Yahweh just as my fact claimed 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣 you are getting small small....
But Jesus preach to worship only one true God .
Why did you choose to worship 3 in 1 ☕ Yahweh God

U have not answered my question. Then I will show u where Jesus worship triune God.
Why is Allah's prophet called Eliyyahu which mean My God is Yahweh.
It doesn't make sense..U can't be mocking Yahweh as pagan but can't explain why one of Allah's prophet is named after same pagan god.
That's why I don't like debating U.

advanceDNA:
Pakistani Muslim are a different breed of muslims.... They consciously look for virtually anything they can call blasphemy so they can kill.....

Unfortunately they ve carried their madness to Britain and other European countries.
Those people are something else.

honesttalk21:


Bogus you say despite posting pictures that tend to support Isho.

Ishoʿ (īšōʕ), a cognate of the Hebrew term Yeshu, is the Eastern Syriac pronunciation of the Aramaic form of the name of Jesus.

Early Syriac alphabet form of the name of Jesus
It is still commonly used as a name for Jesus among Syriac Christians of the Middle East and Saint Thomas Christians of India.

There are in fact Christians who have been speaking Aramaic for the past two thousand years, since the time of the Apostles, who have passed down the Christian faith in what can be called its native language: the Syriac Christians, whose liturgical language is essentially Aramaic as Jesus would have spoken it — but they pronounce the Lord’s name not “Yeshua,” but “Isho.” Yeshua was passed down by nobody at all, but invented from imagined traditions in modern times.

https://lonelypilgrim.com/2014/11/19/saying-jesuss-name-wrong-a-fallacy-of-hebrew-roots/


You won't waste your time arguing or telling the truth about the origin of the name Jesus.
Well of course

The name Jesus is merely an English adaptation of a German transliteration of a Latin transliteration of a Greek transliteration of an originally Hebrew name: Yeshua. And the history of how Jesus’ real name evolved into the form that the world knows today is complex, nuanced, and somewhat shrouded in mystery.

And U ignored my own scholastic evidence that made it clear where Jesus name came from?

Let me make it easy for u...
Did Jesus speak the eastern Syriac Aramaic? No, Jesus spoke the Palestinian Aramaic which is different from the eastern Syriac one.

Jews in 2nd temple period give their children Hebrew names and not Aramaic ones. Though they speak Aramaic but their culture and names are rooted in Hebrew origin and not Aramaic.
The bible clearly states his name means 'He shall save his people from their sin'. The only Hebrew name that fits above is Yeoshua.
The Talmud- Jewish religious text that wrote about Jesus called him Yeshu. This is very close to Yeoshua than Isho.

Isho has a different meaning in Hebrew and has no resemblance to who Jesus is.

There's nothing difficult or mysterious about Jesus name. It's just a desperate attempt by Muslims to explain where they got the name ISA.
Even modern scholars and experts cannot explain where Muhammed got the name ISA.

honesttalk21:


@SirTee15
False ribs are the lower six pairs of ribs (ribs 8-12) that do not connect directly to the sternum via costal cartilages. These ribs are called “false” because they do not form a complete ring around the thoracic cavity like true ribs (ribs 1-7) do. Instead, false ribs articulate with each other or with the cartilages of adjacent ribs. There are three types of false ribs: **Vertebrochondral Ribs:** Ribs 8-10 are referred to as vertebrochondral ribs because their costal cartilages articulate with those of their superior (upper) neighbors rather than attaching directly to the sternum. These ribs are still considered “false” but have a more direct attachment than floating ribs. **Floating Ribs:** Ribs 11 and 12 are known as floating ribs because they do not articulate with any other costal cartilages or the sternum at all; instead, they terminate in free ends within the muscles of the abdominal wall. Floating ribs have a more minimal structural role compared to true ribs but still protect underlying organs like lungs and kidneys from injury. Despite their reduced attachment points, floating ribs still contribute to overall trunk stability and respiratory function.

During pregnancy, a woman’s uterus expands and grows to accommodate the developing fetus. This growth can put pressure on surrounding organs and structures, including the xiphoid process. In some cases, this pressure can cause discomfort or pain in the area.

The growing uterus can also shift the position of the xiphoid process. In late pregnancy, the uterus rises into the abdomen and pushes the diaphragm upwards, which can cause the xiphoid process to become more prominent. This is a normal part of pregnancy and is not usually a cause for concern.

Where is the diaphragm?

The diaphragm is a thin muscle that separates the abdomen from the chest and helps you breathe.

During pregnancy, the gravid uterus can exert pressure on the diaphragm, leading to various physiological changes and potential respiratory complications. This doesn't mean there aren't any other organs between the Uterus and the diaphragm.

I don't get it, what's the purpose of this? What's your point because I don't get it.

Your problem remain lack of basic knowledge in human anatomy.
Look here let me make it easy for u, go and touch a 38 week old pregnant women and tell me if U can feel the rib or any bone anterior to the womb.

Expanse2020:

You see prof you can't disagree with now you are ranting 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I would have debated ancient Semitic religion with U but u too dull and not worth the time.
Thus prefer to use logic to expose the contradiction in your claim.

Don't think we don't have answer to the claim you have been parading here...I just don't want to waste my time with U, cos U are not intellectually cerebral to enter such discussion.

https://evidenceforchristianity.org/is-the-hebrew-word-for-lord-really-a-pagan-word-and-is-this-evidence-that-judaism-and-therefore-christianity-has-pagan-roots/

RevenuesBoost:
What's this now!

I see why our politicians go out of the country for treatment.


This is how my 21 year old cousin died last week because no oxygen in General Hospital Lagos.
They were looking for oxygen up and down.
God will help Nigeria.


They saw a customer they didn't want to let go, so they did rub**sh on somebody's daughter.


Very sad!!!

May her soul rest in peace and grant her family the strength to bear the loss.

If your politicians use naija hospitals, they will make it work. Trust me.
When Abacha was banned from travelling overseas. National hospital Abuja was top notch with world class expertise and care.
Immediately Obasanjo entered and they were allowed to travel out, our politicians abandoned the hospital and it's now a shadow of itself.