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IslamRe: Advice To Our Sisters* by SIRTee15: 8:51pm On Aug 22, 2025
SmartPolician:
The two major religions are centred around the Middle East. To date, those folks have no regards for women and so are Islam and Christianity.
Pls don't lump Christianity with any other religion when it comes to treatment of women.

If anything, modern Christianity is being blamed for the excessive freedom in today women's hand.

A woman has equal rights to man when it comes to Christianity. There's no restriction placed on a woman that's not on the man.

In Christianity, A woman is supposed to be pure for marriage so also is the man. Unlike in Islam where the man can sleep around as much as he likes but it's the woman that should be caged and covered to preserve her because she's gold.
IslamRe: Advice To Our Sisters* by SIRTee15: 6:08pm On Aug 22, 2025
keemsleek:
Has much as I respect people's religion, this topic is off it. If a religion respects women it won't diminish the right of a woman or wife. A woman should have a say and not been kept has a stand by. I told someone no woman wants to share her man but a religion you say respect women cafed themand they can't take so they accept thier fate in pains. The only way I will agree with you is that Muslim women when it comes to purity are better off than any other religion.
Have U tried orthodox Judaism or deeper life Christians? The later even carry purity enter marriage.
RomanceRe: See The List Of Requirements For A Wife by SIRTee15: 6:06pm On Aug 22, 2025
PerfectStranger:
Long epistle no point. He should do house chores while the woman go fend for food.
Mr man swerve.

As if most women don't contribute significantly to household expenses despite shouldering all the domestic responsibilities.

So what does the man do? Contribute half of household expenses and then what?

Let's reverse the role, women should go out, bring half of household expenses and then do nothing; while men should do all house chores but also contribute 1/3rd of home expenses.

Now does above seem fair to u? I guess not. That's exactly how women feel with your selfish and irrational demands U place on them.

It's obvious some of U don't think things thru before vomiting it out.
RomanceRe: See The List Of Requirements For A Wife by SIRTee15: 2:40pm On Aug 22, 2025
PerfectStranger:
Quiet your mouth oga. What do you mean by servitude? Taking care of the house and doing what a woman should do in a home is servitude to you?
The problem with the black man is he loves being Narcissistic without any tangible achievement to show for it.
The black man's overbloated ego is too big for his own neck to carry. He has achieved nothing, built no civilisation for his woman and children to proudly inherit; yet he's the first one to force his woman to carry mount Everest on her shoulders just because nature fortunately made him the head of the house.

Since it's just house chores and should be easy, how about U do it yourself. If U are able to do it without feeling the stress, I believe your wife would also learn not to complain.
RomanceRe: See The List Of Requirements For A Wife by SIRTee15: 11:35pm On Aug 21, 2025
PerfectStranger:
Stop acting like those requirements ain't achievable for a full time house wife.

Our parents in those days did even way more and still kept the family in order.

Y'all Gen z's see everything as slavery.
And what does she get in return for the chattel servitude she's subjected to?

Men that can hardly work enough to sustain themselves not to talk of the household is making ridiculous demands.

Maybe she should make her own dream list of an ideal man and let's see if the husband can meet up.
TravelRe: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by SIRTee15: 4:45am On Aug 21, 2025
IT'S NOW OBVIOUS CANADA IS ON ITS WAY TO SELF DESTRUCT, SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY BROKEN.

A homeowner is facing assault charges for allegedly injuring an intruder at his home in Lindsay, Ont., according to local police.

The Kawartha Lakes Police Service says it responded to a call on Kent Street at about 3:20 a.m. on Monday.

According to police, the resident had woken up to find an intruder inside his apartment. The two had an "altercation" and the intruder suffered life-threatening injuries, police say, and was later airlifted to a Toronto hospital.

Police say the homeowner is facing charges for aggravated assault and assault with a weapon.

The alleged intruder, 41, is also facing charges, including breaking and entering and possession of a weapon for dangerous purposes. Police say the intruder was also already wanted for unrelated offences.

Self-defence: What's acceptable under Canadian law?
While people do have the right to defend themselves and their property if they believe they are facing a threat under Canadian law, those rights "are not unlimited in Canada," Kawartha Lake Police Chief Kirk Robertson issued a statement.

"The law requires that any defensive action be proportionate to the threat faced," Robertson said.

"This means that while homeowners do have the right to protect themselves and their property, the use of force must be reasonable given the circumstances."


In his statement, Robertson also acknowledged that the case has generated "significant public interest and emotional responses."

"The Kawartha Lakes Police Service appreciates the community's engagement and concern. However, the negative commentary about the officers and their actions is unjust and inaccurate," Robertson said.

So someone with a gun breaks into my home and canada police is telling me I'm expected to show restrain and be careful how I deal with the intruder!!!

These weak, political correct laws are the root cause anarchy and civil disobedience in the west. This was how UK started, now that country is on the brink of a civil war.
I can only pray for Canada because they just dont know what they are inviting on their head.
FamilyRe: Man Laments After His Wife Refused Him To Bring His Sick Mother To Their Home by SIRTee15: 8:21pm On Aug 20, 2025
pocohantas:
You wish. The same post you quoted was blocked. Or did you see any post missing in my profile? As for your likeness, I am sorry I do not care. Keep it and your apology. Use that energy to care for your parents. Take care.
Pocohantas don vex finally. Who should I call to beg her nowhuh🤔🤔🤔


As per the matter on ground
We already concluded. Since we are all forming busy and nobody wan gree, let's open care home and dump elderly parents there.
Shikena.
FamilyRe: Man Laments After His Wife Refused Him To Bring His Sick Mother To Their Home by SIRTee15: 5:32pm On Aug 20, 2025
pocohantas:
Good you have read the thread and quite convenient of you to hop on my mentions with passive aggresion and try to play the victim. I do hope you can take the advice there because I won't be this nice next time.

Have a nice day, Son-With-Abandonement-Tendencies.
Isn't that the reason your initial post was blocked?

Nairaland spam bots don't care about anyone's raging moment anymore. U write anyhow, u get blocked
anyhow.

Alright 🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️

Funny enough I really do like your posts because u are one of the sensible and pragmatic feminist I know both here and offline
Your feminist arguments do makes sense, but yesterday own dey somehow.

Ok apology for any offense caused, though I still stick to my irrefutable point.
FamilyRe: Man Laments After His Wife Refused Him To Bring His Sick Mother To Their Home by SIRTee15: 1:15pm On Aug 20, 2025
pocohantas:
Of course imploring you to take care of your BIOLOGICAL parents is emotional rant without substance. The wife that doesn't want to do it is HEARTLESS and you the biological child is not. Why exactly did they born you?
Ok I've heard u Madame Feminista.

https://www.nairaland.com/8501362/guys-always-avoid-troublesome-ladies
FashionRe: 2002 Miss World Riots In Nigeria And Aftermath (Throwback Photos) by SIRTee15: 12:55pm On Aug 20, 2025
Lukuluku69:
Methuselah, I am not even talking about the Crusades or the Crusaders who left Europe hoping to retake a supposedly Holy Land. A Land that has been inhabited by Semites for Centuries. No, I am not talking about about that.

I am talking the Wars Christian Europeans fought within themselves while professing the same Faith.

I am talking the atrocities of your Christians Forebears when they enter The Americas, when they entered the India Sub Continent, I am talking their treatment of the Aboriginal of Australia, of New Zealand.

Methuselah, you lived long enough so you should remember them all or your memory only works when Islam and Muslims are mentioned?

Christians have killed more Christians than Muslims have. Methuselah, Research it and edify yourself.
Lukuluku people fight irrespective of ethnicity or faith.
People of same tribe or faith fight each other. It's normal social dynamics of life.
Yorubas fought each other for 30 years despite speaking same language.
U Muslims even fought each other countless times because of the same religion U profess. Your early Muslim leaders burnt and killed each other in wars because of disagreement on Islamic faith.
Ali the great grandson of Muhammed was killed and beheaded in battle of Karbala by fellow Muslims.
It was constant war amongst Muslims community immediately after the death of Muhammed. They couldn't settle their dispute amicably without shedding blood on battle field.
The truth remains the islamic religion is too violent, Your religion started and spread with bloodshed and that mentality is what majority of U guys hold onto in this 21st century.

No Christian nation went to battle of started a war with fellow Christian nation because of the faith. Battle amongst European nation has to do with greed, expansion, political dominance or what have U. Never about religion.

The crusade was about taking back Christian territories seized by Muslims. The Muslims were the aggressors, the Christians just had to respond.

As regards the slave trade. The Arab Muslims took 12 million slaves out of Africa while the European Christians took 15 million. Can't see much difference.

But the question is what happened to the 12 million slaves taken to the Arab land. Where are they today?
That's the question U should ask yourself as a black Muslim Lukuluku.
Where are the descendants of the black slaves taken out of Africa to the Arab world?
Answer the question Lukuluku?
FashionRe: 2002 Miss World Riots In Nigeria And Aftermath (Throwback Photos) by SIRTee15: 12:40pm On Aug 20, 2025
EnkayDezign:
The problem with Nigeria isn’t that just one side is extremist. No! Actually both sides are extremists when it comes down to their respective faiths. Hence, the wanton violence and retaliatory attacks that we see whenever a few miscreants get up to mischief.

Sadly one party always thinks of the other as being the more ‘violent’ one. No introspection whatsoever.
Mr man stop lying and learn to say the truth for once.
U mention xtian extremists, name one.
Just one Christian extremists in Nigeria going about killing people and destroying properties in the name of Jesus.
The answer is none.
FamilyRe: Man Laments After His Wife Refused Him To Bring His Sick Mother To Their Home by SIRTee15: 5:51am On Aug 20, 2025
pocohantas:
Take care of your parents.

There is no one you guys have time to take care of. Not your own kids, not your parents. But there is always time for sidechicks. Women work too. At the places you work, there are women there. Yet we take care of our kids and parents. The time you used to type this epistle can be channelled into taking care of them. Take care of your parents. It is not impractical inequality.
emotional ranting with no substance.

bye, madam feminista
FamilyRe: Man Laments After His Wife Refused Him To Bring His Sick Mother To Their Home by SIRTee15: 11:42pm On Aug 19, 2025
pocohantas:
I didn't ask you not to stand by what you say. I said you should learn to care for your own parents. It is not rocket science.
Taking care of parents is not rocket science but who has the flexibility of time to do it btw a married son and married daughter.

Taking care of elderly needs time and attention and that requires time off work or other engagements. Can a married man afford such luxury?

When my wife was working, we use to take turns to take time off work when our daughter was sick, but she had to do it more because I'm self employed- thus need to work to bring funds home. If I don't work, I don't get paid.

This is the social dynamics we talking about here, reason why daughters are best adapted to take care of parents.

Everything should not be about negative feminist energy.

Eventually, if we continue to insist on this impractical equality, solution will be to open care homes in naija and kuku dump our parents there. because no man who has responsibilities on his shoulders will stay at home to take care of elderly parents just because his sister insists on 50-50.

As per the op, bringing an elderly to your home needs full approval of your wife. Except she's a heartless woman, we all know the responsibility of caring for your mum will fall on her by default. If she's not ready for such, don't impose it on her.
All these talk about u caring for your mum is just emotional pleading. Except U plan to resign your work and stay home, any other thing is empty words
PoliticsRe: Why FG Named KWAM 1 Aviation Security Ambassador - Keyamo Respond To Critics by SIRTee15: 4:41pm On Aug 14, 2025
Mr aviation, don't fall my hand by giving in to illiterate cyber bullies.

That girl deserves jail time, the fact she got away with it because of public empathy doesn't negate the fact she was wrong.

KWAM 1 didn't assault anyone and was almost killed by the pilot if not for his instinct. He assaulted no one.

That girl fought both the aviation crew and the security, she also damaged airline property. Why she wasn't jailed I what I will never understand.

The only reason she had public support is because her endowment was made public not because people felt she was right.

And I already reiterated, if she felt her dignity was violated she should institute a civil suit against ibom air. But to make her look innocent is a big no.

Keyamo should focus on training airport security on importance of emergency, attending to crises on time. They should also be trained on the use of tasers, handcuff and restraining tactics. All these should be used on unruly passengers who think they are too big to follow simple airline instructions.
Safety in the aviation industry is of utmost priority.
TravelRe: Ibom Air: Why Was Comfort Emmanson's Top Ripped & The Video Shared? by SIRTee15: 8:52pm On Aug 13, 2025
Lamasta:
You are yet to show me where a passenger was stripped naked and it was posted online by the airline cos I can see you are trying to justify what is bad...
Nobody stripped her naked, she stripped herself naked by fighting half naked.

The public show of her endowment is not my headache. If U feels so aggrieved join her in launching a civil suit against ibom air. It's a civil suit not criminal.

Or u want me to show u video of police in saner clime manhandling half naked women who resisted arrest?
because I can show u plenty.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UonKm5VqHCM?si=2I7GU_F9jIt7zj2j
TravelRe: Ibom Air: Why Was Comfort Emmanson's Top Ripped & The Video Shared? by SIRTee15: 7:50pm On Aug 13, 2025
Lamasta:
The video you sent and the ibom air counterpart are they the samehuh
Ndi saner clime. See more video of people dragged off the plane in your sophisticated clime.

I repeat that girl got off lightly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLUmdTEF_J4?si=rSC8fQuleV6Y2znm



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrDWY6C1178?si=AesVDUFwBc7pULZC

The 2nd video, the guy was forced out because the flight was overbooked and he was one of the passengers that was picked to come down.
When he refused, they called security on him to force him out.

Make Una dey play, Una never ready. The safety of the flight comes first, not your emotional whims.
TravelRe: Ibom Air: Why Was Comfort Emmanson's Top Ripped & The Video Shared? by SIRTee15: 7:29pm On Aug 13, 2025
Lamasta:
The video you sent and the ibom air counterpart are they the samehuh
Yes they are the same. Unruly female passengers forced and bundled out of the plane by security forces.

If the woman's dress wasn't torn in the video I sent, it's because she was sensible enough to dress decently in public.

If your Comfort girl choose to leave the house without a bra and wearing a loose top, it's nobody's headache but hers.
TravelRe: Ibom Air: Why Was Comfort Emmanson's Top Ripped & The Video Shared? by SIRTee15: 4:48pm On Aug 13, 2025
Lamasta:
Show me one country in Europe where passenger was dehumanized and stripped naked because she slapped an air hostess or you forever remain silent instead of typing something else
Mr this can never happen in Europe, see how a woman was dragged out of a plane and bundled into a police car.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtBc0E2JTi0?si=01sEJ_CHjtsBRM_-

That girl got away with that nonsense lightly. Try that abroad and see shegepromax. Them no send U.

U engage in a public fight half naked, U now complaining your endowment was in public display. Whose fault? Next time learn to wear bra b4 leaving the house.

She is free to sue ibom air if she feels aggrieved, that one no concern me. As far as am concerned, she should be punished and made to serve as a deterrent to others.
Nigerians and their arrogant behaviour. Simple instructions, they find it difficult to follow. Nonsense.
TravelRe: Ibom Air: Why Was Comfort Emmanson's Top Ripped & The Video Shared? by SIRTee15: 4:41pm On Aug 13, 2025
Lamasta:
Show me one country in Europe where passenger was dehumanized and stripped naked because she slapped an air hostess or you forever remain silent instead of typing something else
Mr this can never happen in sane clime

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/united-airlines-flight-nigerian-woman-kicked-off-white-man-smell-pungent-a8349306.html

PropertiesRe: China Is Now Building Small, Affordable Homes That You Can Buy At Walmart Stores by SIRTee15: 1:27pm On Aug 13, 2025
Exceed15:
Find out bro

China govt does not promote any religion and is in the constitution. Today china is officially an atheist country..
Do U have comprehension problem? Where did I say govt promote religion.

I wrote spirituality is very common amongst the populace. This has nothing to do with govt.

TravelRe: Ibom Air: Why Was Comfort Emmanson's Top Ripped & The Video Shared? by SIRTee15: 1:20pm On Aug 13, 2025
lonelydora:
Na English you dey speak o. You watched the half video. If she sues that air hostess, she will cash out hands down.
I wish she can try it so all U people can calm down.

Una go push that girl enter kirirkiri permanently.
TravelRe: Ibom Air: Why Was Comfort Emmanson's Top Ripped & The Video Shared? by SIRTee15: 1:16pm On Aug 13, 2025
Lamasta:
And you think the diaspora will dehumanize her this way for her offense ba?
Someone that will be tased, handcuffed and dragged out of the plane.
Then she will be charged to court, na with plea deal she won't end up in jail.

U guys don't know anything about this sane clime. People have been kicked out of plane because of inappropriate dressing or body odour. And there's nothing U can do about it.

U better be careful abroad when flying especially as a black person. U would be embarrassed and nothing will come out of it.
TravelRe: Ibom Air: Why Was Comfort Emmanson's Top Ripped & The Video Shared? by SIRTee15: 1:10pm On Aug 13, 2025
Efuaye:
All of you condemning Comfort's behavior have probably never been provoked or pushed to the wall!
If you face the same embarrassing situation and the kind of humiliation from the airline staff as the girl did you might behave in like manner.
U guys will push this unruly girl to jail. U think the court or due process cares about your emotions or her endowment displayed to public.

That's how U people pushed that corper girl into NYSC extension.

She was detained because she was unruly during flight and the crew wanted the security to take her away. She was meant to stay in the plane until the security arrive. Eventually, when they came, she refused to go with them which led to being forced out of the plane.

As per her indignity, that's a civil case not criminal. She's free to sue ibom air or whatever for compensation. But he go shock Una the case won't be straight forward as U think.
If U start fighting in public, anything can happen including your clothes ripped apart.
TravelRe: NBA Condemns Ibom Air’s Treatment Of Passenger, Demands Investigation by SIRTee15: 5:49pm On Aug 12, 2025
Deefirm:
The rush by Ibom Air to put up that stupid statement, the madness by AON and NCAA tells how low our institutions (Private/Public) have degraded to! Nonsense, I pray they pay heavily for this, and the stupid judge who gave the remand order without a fair hearing, all of them PAPA!
I hope U will also say the 6 months ban imposed on KWAM 1 is uncalled for.
TravelRe: Civic Organisation Offers Free Legal Services To Female Passenger, Emmanson by SIRTee15: 2:21pm On Aug 12, 2025
Morizo:
Did you watch the complete video? Let them show us the airplane video footage.

There's more rto it.
They prevented her from going out even from that doctored video

Watch it again and again
She was detained because air ibom called the security to take her away. She was meant to wait in the plane for the security.
TravelRe: Civic Organisation Offers Free Legal Services To Female Passenger, Emmanson by SIRTee15: 2:11pm On Aug 12, 2025
Chevrolet076:
Is there any law in the airline that states that unruly behavior on the airplane should be punished by stripping the passenger Naked? The way they dragged her along the stairs, hitting her head along, if she had sustained brain damage, who will be liable for that? Or she deserved being killed because of her unruly behavior? The unruly behavior we didn't see the beginning?
See people promoting moral decadence.
That girl should be punished for her unruly and aggressive public behaviour, she should serve as a warning to others like her.

The rule in airplane is very clear. Obey the captain and the hostess, it's for your own safety. Imagine being in a plane where a passenger starts fighting the crew during flight- imagine the chaos, fright and disruption that would cause.

And to imagine she wore such breast exposing crop top without wearing a bra shows how morally bankrupt she is.
Who in her right senses dresses like a harlot during the day. Even with the top on, nearly half of her breast were on full display, Yet she felt no need to wear a bra.
Ironically, the girl knew she was dressing half naked without a bra on, but was fighting in public. What was she expecting? Public fight is always dirty, clothes are torn and sensitive areas could be exposed. Its either u avoid it entirely or u come prepared.

Well if she has a problem with her breast being exposed to the world, she is free to institute a civil suit against ibom air or whatever. That one no concern us.

But she must be severely punished because she rightly committed multiple punishable offenses with her behaviour yesterday.

All these sentiments being displayed is irrelevant. Nigerians must be forced to obey rules and order in public places. Very proud and arrogant bunch especially when they have small money or connection.

U could hear the spoilt brat telling the air hostess 'I will deal with u, U will see' after she was disgracefully dragged off the plane.
Most likely her sugar daddy may be a politician giving her confidence.
Nonsense everywhere.
PropertiesRe: China Is Now Building Small, Affordable Homes That You Can Buy At Walmart Stores by SIRTee15: 1:05pm On Aug 11, 2025
Exceed15:
China is an atheist state. It's the least religious country in the world yet they value human lives and development more than religious countries
You people don't come with this ignorant talk.

Right now, gulf cities are emerging as the countries that offer great economic opportunities to migrants all over the world. Yet they are conservative Muslim countries.

Europe did very well when they were under Christianity. Now that they have embraced liberal secularism, the continent is turning to a mess.

China has strong spirituality ranging from simple stuff like Yoga to Taoism or Buddhism. Spiritual meditation is very popular and Christianity is growing very fast among the young ones.

Even if Africa abandons religion, it will still have issues with development.
Poverty in Africa has nothing to do with religion
Christianity EtcRe: Why Gen Z Is Becoming Less Religious? by SIRTee15: 3:28am On Aug 11, 2025
Lucifyre:
Oh, the irony. You guys just can’t seem to do without it, hilarious? 🧇 How’s that waffle tasting?(I love waffles, they tatse great) I actually read through the post, and the funniest part is how you basically reinforced my point at every turn. The bolded part especially — didn’t know the foreskin was supposed to be a god engineered “natural condom.”

So let’s get this straight: in your “perfect” creation, god deliberately designed organisms that cause infections — called them “very good” — then created the foreskin to shield against the very things he made.
Your ignorance is oozing. This one thinks all micro organism are harmful.
Ever heard of commensals, normal flora and symbiotic relationships, have u ever wondered how fermentation occur?

Next time don't skip biology class.

I repeat, everything God created is good including microbes. Corruption made it evil!!!

Lucifyre:
Then sin comes along and suddenly perfectly created microbes — which apparently couldn’t survive there before — gain new abilities, move in under the foreskin, and ruin the plan. And the divine fix? Cut it off, leaving everything exposed to the very infections he supposedly designed it to protect from. Genius.
How's that God's fault? I gave u a brand new car with warranty. U fail to service it and eventually caused an accident. Then u turn around to blame me for gifting u a car.
Pls help me to make sense of it because that was exactly what Adam did.
Blame God after messing up what he gave u.

Lucifyre:
Even better, actual research shows the opposite of what you’re implying — uncircumcised men have higher rates of STDs and UTIs. So if the foreskin really was god’s protective masterpiece, it’s doing a pretty lousy job and confusing your “omniscient” god at every step.
It's obvious u have a comprehension problem. I said God created foreskin for a perfect function. Unfortunately it got corrupted and then started causing problems that I listed...phimosis, UTI, STI etc. This prompted the need for circumcision to prevent this harm.
Personal hygiene was poor in those days, people struggled to keep their foreskin healthy and was causing lots of problems for men.
God instituted circumcision to promote personal hygiene.
Men who are circumcised are less prone to those disease than uncircumcised men. That's my point.

If u are from southern Nigeria, I can bet u never heard of paraphimosis or balanitis in your life. 99% of Nigerian doctors have never seen or treated these cases of foreskin problems because we circumcise.

That's my whole point u didn't understand only for u to bring evidence that assert my position.
OLODO.

Lucifyre:
As for the incest bit and the rest of the waffle, I’ll skip following you down that tangent — no need to join you in the comedy club of the circus. I’m only here as a makeup artist.
Guy rest. U cannot bring up evidence of any incest in that passage. Incest is only in your head.
U don't have any evidence anywhere that Cain married his sister or blood relatives. That's what I was trying to show u.
Besides, Incest cannot be applied in the beginning because genetic pool was too limited for any diseased genetic mutation to occur. Any genetic mutation at that time is a variance and not a risk.

At creation, human were genetically perfect without the accumulation mutations that cause birth defect we have today.
Because of this, close relative marriage in early human history would not have carried the same genetic risk they do now.

That's my argument I want u deal with. These are facts not waffling.


Lucifyre:
You quoted me for a reason, right? So why consistently dodge the reason you quoted me? Yes or no should be easy. 😏 Anyways, back to my actual point: are you still claiming there’s no evidence for everything I said in my OP? The makeup’s coming on either way. If you dodge (classic hit-and-run), makeup. If you say “yes,” I bring the receipts — makeup. If you say “no,” you played yourself — makeup. Choose your poison. Tick-tock, makeup designer for 🤡’s awaits.
We are dealing with incest and circumcision now. when we done we can move to other issues U raised.

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