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 Islam › Re: How Did Muhammad Know It Was Angel Gabriel That Appeared To Him? by SIRTee15: 2:06am On Dec 11, 2025 |
honesttalk21:The bigger problem here is not the reaction of Muhammed but waraqa gave him a wrong answer. Waraqa was the one who told Muhammed that Angel Gabriel spoke to him based on his own knowledge of the scriptures BUT HE WAS WRONG. WARAQA GOT IT WRONG. Waraqa told Muhammed the Angel that spoke to him is the same angel that spoke to Moses. That's not true, Angel Gabriel never spoke to Moses in the scriptures. The Angel that spoke to Moses was Angel of the LORD and not Gabriel. Aisha also said: "The Prophet returned to Khadija while his heart was beating rapidly. She took him to Waraqah bin Naufal who was a Christian convert and used to read the Gospel in Arabic. Waraqah asked (the Prophet), 'What do you see?' When he told him, Waraqah said, ' That is the same angel whom Allah sent to the Prophet Moses . Should I live till you receive the Divine Message, I will support you strongly.' The angel God sent to Moses was Angel of the Lord, nowhere did we find Gabriel communicating with Moses. Muhammed believed he encountered an Angel because Waraqa told him so but that believe is faulty. Whatever is built upon such belief should be questioned. 1 Like |
| Politics › China's Export Success Could Pose Risk- Imf. by SIRTee15(op): 3:41pm On Dec 10, 2025 |
HONG KONG (AP) — The head of the International Monetary Fund has urged China to fix its economic imbalances, saying the country of 1.4 billion people is too big to rely on exports for its growth. China’s global exports have been rising while shipments to the United States have contracted after President Donald Trump hiked taxes on imports from China and many other countries. Earlier this week, Beijing reported its trade surplus for 2025 had already exceeded a record $1 trillion. IMF Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva said the heavy reliance on exports risks provoking more moves by its trading partners to curb imports from China. “(China’s) continuing to depend on export-led growth risks furthering global trade tensions,” Georgieva told a press conference on Wednesday. “China is now too big to rely on exports as a source for growth… and (it has) a large domestic market that can be a big aspiration for growth in the years to come.” At a high-level meeting in October aimed at drawing up plans for the next five years, China's leaders highlighted the need to boost domestic consumption. The ruling Communist Party has long sought to rebalance the economy away from heavy dependence both on exports and on massive investment in infrastructure. But the COVID-19 pandemic intervened, along with a prolonged downturn in the real estate market that has slowed activity for that once powerful engine for growth. Meanwhile, Beijing has pushed hard to expand manufacturing in high-tech industries, struggling to rein in excessive capacity in some areas such as automaking. Morgan Stanley recently predicted that by 2030, China’s market share in global exports could reach 16.5%, up from about 15% currently, supported by its advanced manufacturing and high-growth segments like robotics, electric vehicles and batteries. Georgieva was visiting Beijing for an annual economic forum involving the heads of major international organizations. The IMF also was concluding its annual review of China. Softening domestic consumption and demand in China has contributed to a weakened yuan versus the dollar and other currencies. That has made China’s exports cheaper compared with those of other countries, reinforcing trade imbalances. The IMF said comprehensive policies are needed to encourage Chinese people to spend more. While China's market is huge and still growing at a nearly 5% annual pace, domestic demand has weakened as consumers cut back on spending due to job and income losses during and after the pandemic. The years-long property downturn also has hit household wealth, crimping shoppers' appetites for spending and sapping demand for imports, amplifying the trade imbalance. Helping to offset the decline in exports to the U.S., China is selling more in other countries in Africa, Latin America, Southeast Asia and Europe. That has led to complaints from China’s trading partners as its imports have failed to keep pace. Wednesday, the EU Chamber of Commerce in China also warned its substantial trade surplus is raising worries. The IMF’s remarks followed Chinese Premier Li Qiang’s comments to the international group of financial experts Tuesday that higher tariffs have “dealt a severe blow” to the global economy. Chan Ho-him, The Associated Press |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 8:05pm On Dec 08, 2025 |
dofman:clown, Ezekiel wont safe u from your ignorance. obviously u have never read the book of Ezekiel in your life Mr bible expert, but just vomiting dawah script up and down. LET'S GO BACK TO THE BOOK OF EZEKIEL AND SEE IF GOD TOLD SOMEONE TO BEAR THE SINS OF ANOTHER PERSONS. Ezekiel 4 The LORD said to Ezekiel.... 4 “Then lie on your left side and put the sin of the people of Israel upon yourself . You are to bear their sin for the number of days you lie on your side. 5 I have assigned you the same number of days as the years of their sin. So for 390 days you will bear the sin of the people of Israel. 6 “After you have finished this, lie down again, this time on your right side, and bear the sin of the people of Judah. I have assigned you 40 days, a day for each year. This clown thought running to the old testament will help with his weak and lame argument. Now come and explain why God told Ezekiel to carry the sins of Israel. Doffman where are u going to run to now, New testament- Jesus said I came to dir for mankind. Old testament- Ezekiel carried the sins of Israelites. so where's your next escape route? Even his your own book says Allah will force Christians and Jews to bear the sins of Muslims. Abu Burda reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with as heavy sins as a mountain, and Allah would forgive them and He would place in their stead the Jews and the Christians. (As far as I think), Abu Raub said: I do not know as to who is in doubt. Abu Burda said: I narrated it to 'Umar b. 'Abd al-'Aziz, whereupon he said: Was it your father who narrated it to you from Allah's Apostle (ﷺ)? I said: Yes. Sahih Muslim 2767d Doffman, have u found the christian that will carry your sin? which christian are u hoping to carry your mountain of sins? Did any Christian tell u he came to the world to carry your sins? Where is Allah going to find Christians that will carry your mountain of sin. Mr Man, even u know your book is a joke, that's why u shouted Lies when u first read it. U were shocked at the hadith. Why don't u accept the only Person who said he came to carry the sins of the whole mankind? WHY ARE U REJECTING THE OBVIOUS TRUTH. DOFFMAN FOLLOW THE TRUE CHRIST NOT THAT FAKE ONE DESCRIBED BY THAT YOUR 419 PROPHET |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 11:59pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
@Qasim6 This is a very interesting article written by Bart Erhman, Muslims favourite NT scholar about this 2 powers in heaven belief by 2nd temple Jews. The clown doffman has disowned him, I dont know if u will join him in rejecting your beloved NT scholar. This was published by Paul Williams, an ex supposed 'born again christian' who converted to Islam, and now a popular Muslim apologetic. Bart Ehrman – Two Powers in Heaven By paulwilliamsbloggingtheologycom on September 9, 2016 • ( 40 ) (Published on 8 Sept 2016) ‘Rabbinical scholar Alan Segal produced what is still the major work on the idea of Two Powers in Heaven in Jewish thought. Segal argued that the Two Powers idea was not deemed heretical in Jewish theology until the 2nd century a.d. He carefully traced the roots of the teaching back into the 2nd Temple era (ca. 200 b.c.). Segal was able to establish that the idea’s antecedents were in the Hebrew Bible, specifically passages like Daniel 7:9ff., Exodus 23:20-23, and Exodus 15:3. However, he was unable to discern any coherent religious framework from which these passages and others were conceptually derived. Persian dualism was unacceptable as an explanation since neither of the Two Powers in heaven were evil. Segal speculated that the divine warrior imagery of the broader ancient near east likely had some relationship. The ancient Israelite knew two Yahwehs—one invisible, a spirit, the other visible, often in human form. The two Yahwehs at times appear together in the text, at times being distinguished, at other times not. Early Judaism understood this portrayal and its rationale. There was no sense of a violation of monotheism since either figure was indeed Yahweh. There was no 2nd distinct god running the affairs of the cosmos. During the 2nd Temple period, Jewish theologians and writers speculated on an identity for the 2nd Yahweh. Guesses ranged from divinized humans from the stories of the Hebrew Bible to exalted angels. These speculations were not considered unorthodox. That acceptance changed when certain Jews, the early Christians, connected Jesus with this orthodox Jewish idea. This explains why these Jews, the first converts to following Jesus the Christ, could simultaneously worship the God of Israel and Jesus, and yet refuse to acknowledge any other god. Jesus was the incarnate 2nd Yahweh. In response, as Segal’s work demonstrated, Judaism pronounced the Two Powers teaching a heresy sometime in the 2nd century AD.’ |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 11:49pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
Qasim6:Ok that's good, you are getting there. U are very close to following the TRUE Christ not the fake one brought by that unknown prophet. Your eyes is gradually opening to the truth Qasim6:Very Good!!!!! Now this is where we have to go back to 2nd temple Judaism. What do they believe? What is the believe of the Jews regarding God when Jesus was walking on this earth? What do they teach about God in the synagogue when Jesus was called a Rabbi. Remember Paul is a thorough bred Pharisee well versed in the scriptures, he wouldn't say Jesus is God as well as the Father is there's nothing backing up that claim. Never. Post exilic ancient Jews believed in One God but 2 powers in heaven. One is the Father, the other is his word called mamre of the Lord in Aramaic. The Jews had no challenge with monotheism despite believing in 2 powers in heaven because they knew the word of God is the revelation of the Father. They are the same- One existence. The problem started when a new sect of Judaism started going about saying Jesus Christ is that 2nd power in heaven. The Jews didn't like this and were forced to change their doctrine and declare the 2 powers in heaven and heresy by 200AD. Before that no Jew had any problem believing in 2 powers in heaven because the old testament preached it. This was the believe of the Jews when Jesus was teaching as a Rabbi. He never condemned it. Qasim6:Yes u can trust the NT books. Despite all noise about corruption of the gospel. We are yet to discover any extant gospel book that preach anything different and coherent to what we have. None. Qasim6:Until u can convincingly refute the Corinthian creed evidence. This Paul noise is becoming stale. All evidence points towards the early disciples of Jesus led by James and Peter preached that Christ died for the sins of Mankind. Qasim6:I hope u know Mark narrated the gospel account according to Peter. There's clear cut evidence for this. Qasim6:Like and Mathew mentioned multiple places where Jesus declared his message and gospel is for the gentiles. Qasim6:No, the gospel is John can be backed by the synoptic gospels. I just don't have that time to show u how the synoptic gospels gives credibility to the John gospel. Qasim6:Ok I don't want to go into gospel textual criticism and historicity with u. That would be a whole topic on its own. But let me ask u a question? Muhammed received divine revelation and mentioned the injil that Jesus supposedly taught. Can u tell me something new in that injil that Jesus taught that's not already know to Christians. Can u tell me anything new about the injil in the revelation of Muhammed? Muhammed revealed nothing new about Jesus Christ that's not already in our canonical gospel books or the Apocrypha. Whatever is written about Jesus in the Quran isn't any divine revelation because it's already known So it's either there's nothing Jesus Christ preached that's not already in the gospel books we have or Muhammed didn't receive any revelation at all. The later is likely the case. I dont believe God will declare the message delivered by a Prophet corrupted without giving any hint at all about what the actual message should be or look like. Muhammed and his Quran gave no hint at all about what is in the original injil. Whatever he delivered is already in the so called corrupted injil. Think Qasim and fellow Muslims, u guys should think. Maybe that's why the first Christian convert to Islam reverted back to Christianity. He was a scribe for Muhammed and used to recite surah Imran. When he reverted he said 'Muhammed knows nothing but that which I write for him' U know the interesting part, surah Imran recited by this Christian is the one about Mary and nativity of Jesus. U don't need to be a genius to join the links together. Sahih al-Bukhari 3617 Narrated Anas: There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-`Imran, and he used to write for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him." |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 10:28pm On Dec 07, 2025*. Modified: 2:20am On Dec 08, 2025 |
Qasim6:1. U can't be picking and choosing what suits your agenda from Scholastic work. Your claim must be backed by evidence and u counter evidence u reject with counter evidence. Otherwise your belief is a blind faith. 2. Do we have ebionites in the Jerusalem church headed by James in the early days of the church? That's my question, if ebionites cannot be linked to the early church in Jerusalem, their opinion is inconsequential. BELIEF FROM LATER DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T COUNT. Besides ebionites never used any gospel of Matthew, they had their own gospel called ebionites gospel, the church fathers quoted from it. 3. Once again picking what suits your agenda from the letters of Paul, Just like u do to tafsirs and hadiths. This is despite Acts 15 corroborated what Paul wrote in the book of Galatian. He was actually given a letter of approval by the church in Jerusalem to preach his message to gentiles Acts 15 With them they sent the following letter: The apostles and elders, your brothers, To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia: Greetings. 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell. I dont think u have any knowledge about the historicity of the church in Corinthians but let me summarise it for u. 1. Paul founded and established the church in Corinth, he stayed there for 18 months b4 he left. 2. After his founding visit of eighteen months, Paul continued to correspond with the church, reflecting ongoing pastoral concern amid escalating issues; and also encouraged them to donate to the Jerusalem church. He even offered to write letter of introduction for the emissaries that will take the offering to Jerusalem. Acts 16. 3. Some 'super apostles' arrived in Corinth church with letter of recommendation to antagonise Paul (Likely Pharisee converts mentioned in Acts 15) and questioned his credential. 4. The church of Corinth also began to question Paul's authority and one of them led a rebellion against Paul. 5. Paul wrote a severe letter to the church seriously reprimanding them. ( the letter is lost) 6. Titus visited the church, he noticed the church had repented, the troublemaker had been disciplined and they wanted to restore their relationship with Paul. 2 Corinth 7.6-16 7. Paul wrote a reconciliation letter (2 corinthians) emphasizing integrity and true apostleship over showmanship 8. Paul said he need no letter of recommendation because he established the church- the church is his own recommendation, and that he preach for free not expecting any financial payment or support unlike the 'super apostles' who expected financial reward for their stewardship 2 Corinth 11.7-20 (Letter of recommendation was needed by travelling teachers who expected payment or financial reward for their stewardship) Paul himself has no problem with letter of recommendation and he wrote one for phoebe, Mark and Philemon BUT he's against if it's for other motive except to spread the gospel. Once again, I will strongly advise you to understand how words are used b4 concluding based on your own ignorant interpretation. No scholar- either academic, Jewish or atheist takes the verse 'he will prolong his days" literally. The phrase is a Hebrew idiom for divine blessing, not literal longevity. All scholars regardless of background understand Isaiah 53.10b to be covenant promise of restoration not bodily longevity. That's why Jewish in the AD era who reinterpreted the Isaiah 53 to be about nation of Israel had no problem with that verse because they never took it literal. They understood it to be 'Israel will enjoy long-lasting prosperity'. Deut 5.33 Walk in obedience to all that the Lord your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess. Deut 11.9 and so that you may live long in the land the Lord swore to your ancestors to give to them and their descendants, a land flowing with milk and honey Finally bringing angel mentioned in Exodus 23 just buried u. Go back and read that passage, u will discover God said He put his name in the angel and The angel has the power to forgive sin. 20 “See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him . That's why the Angel of the LORD is called God Almighty because God's Name is in him. He also has the divinity of God in him, that's why he has the power to forgive sin. Now when we go to the New testament and we see another person bearing the name of God and has the power to forgive sin, why do u Muslims start shouting NT is corrupt..bla..bla If Muslims have no problem with an angel in the old testament sharing God's name and can forgive sin, why then do u have a problem with the Son of God sharing in his Father's name and his divinity Why  ?? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 4:13pm On Dec 06, 2025 |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Lays Bare His Contempt For Europe In Blistering New National Security Plan by SIRTee15: 11:19am On Dec 06, 2025 |
HacheNoire:I don't understand how someone will hate on China. People should learn from China, including america and Europe. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 6:30pm On Dec 05, 2025 |
dofman:I'm so happy u said Satan believe God is One yet will be destroyed. Knowledge of One God has no meaning unless u worship that One God properly. And Jesus is telling u I'm the way to that God, no one else can go to that God except thru me. dofman:What is Trinity. Let's see if u have any reasonable theological knowledge since your bible knowledge is whack. dofman:Tell me why the old testament is calling The Angel of LORD Almighty God. Why is another Person (The Angel of the LORD) called God Almighty in the old testament. . dofman:because he told is followers to pray to him. John 14:13-14 “And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.” Jesus NOT Paul was the one who told us to pray to Jesus Christ. dofman:Jesus is not powerless my friend, he's the Son of God. Even your Quran said u should worship the Son of Allah. Surah 43.81 Say, [O Muhammad], "If the Most Merciful had a son, then I I would be the first of [his] worshippers." Never in your life say Son of God is powerless, that's blasphemy. dofman:Then answer my question, why are u running away from it. If u are so confident only God received worship (bowing the knee) in the old testament, explain who is the Angel of the LORD? The bible is clear only God should be worshipped. So why is the Angel of the LORD worshiped in the old testament. Why is another figure apart from God the Father worshipped in the old testament? Joshua 5:13–15 (ESV) 13 Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing before him with a drawn sword in his hand. And Joshua went to him and said, “Are you for us, or for our adversaries?” 14 And he said, “No; but I am the commander of the army of the Lord. Now I have come.” And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and did worship and said to him, “What does my lord say to his servant?” 15 And the commander of the Lord’s army said to Joshua, “Take off your sandals from your feet, for the place where you are standing is holy.” And Joshua did so. Judges 13.20 Then Manoah took a young goat and a grain offering and offered it on a rock to the Lord. And the Angel of the Lord did wondrously, and Manoah and his wife fell on their faces to the ground. 21 When the angel of the Lord did not show himself again to Manoah and his wife, Manoah realized that it was the Angel of the Lord. 22 “We are doomed to die!” he said to his wife. “We have seen God " Paul didn't write the old testament but we have clear statement where people fell on their face and bowed to another person who is not the Father. Clown doffman, the bible expert. Don't be ashamed of the truth. When u see the truth, u embrace it. Explain to me why people in the Old testament were worshipping the Angel of the LORD and calling him God. If u can explain this mystery in the Old testament, we will move to the New testament and dissect the Christology of Christ. But we must start from the beginning - old testament. dofman:This is what certified pagans looks like.. U cant be kissing a stone and be tell me u are not a pagan. See your people struggling to lick the stone. And the annoying thing is black people are joining them to lick this black stone. I will never understand why a man black man will leave Africa and go and be struggling to kiss a stone in mecca. If u are so thirsty to lick a stone, what happen to Olumo rock or idanre rock? Your ancestors worshipped on those rocks yet u clown will call them pagans. But u will travel to mecca to bow, kiss and lick a black stone, then turn around and proudly say the stone should be honored. This is mental servitude disguised as religion This is idolatry my friend, I'm not even saying it because I'm a Christian but as a human being with common sense. Even if I was born a Muslim, I will never honour or kiss that thing called black stone. It's idolatry pure and simple. Anyways, answer my question on Angel of the Lord or call it a day.
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| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 6:29pm On Dec 05, 2025 |
dofman:Guy read about your own religion. Don't be half baked on both the bible and your own books. Muhammed was never the same again after he ate the poison. The apostle of Allah lived after this three years till in consequence of his pain he passed away. During his illness he used to say, "I did not cease to find the effect of the (poisoned) morsel, I took at Khaibar and I suffered several times (from its effect) but now I feel the hour has come of the cutting of my jugular vein." Ibn Sa'ad pg 251-252 It was a slow poison that made him fell ill several times. dofman:Liar Liar Liar Hadith – Sahih Bukhari: “The Prophet, in the ailment in which he died, used to say, ‘O Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaybar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.’” U can't know more than Muhammed, he himself admitted he's dying from the effect of the poison he ate 3 years earlier. Your prophet died of slow poisoning e.g lead or arsenic poisoning. The poison severed his aorta like he was warned of he was ever caught lying. Argue with own narrations "Whenever the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, felt ill as a result of the poison, he would have himself treated by cupping. On one occasion, while he was traveling and had assumed the state of Ihraam (ritual state of consecration), he felt ill as a result of that and had himself treated by cupping." Imaam Ahmad's Musnad, Ibn Katheer He suffered from the effect of the poison till he died. That poison was slowly severing his aorta as warned by Allah if he's ever caught lying. dofman:Haha clown, I slapped him with the embarrassing truth from his own books, he's now calling his Hadith trash. Here is it once again, Allah said he will carry the mountain of sins committed by Muslims and throw it on Christians and Jews. Oya call your Hadith trash once again. Abu Burda reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with as heavy sins as a mountain, and Allah would forgive them and He would place in their stead the Jews and the Christians. (As far as I think), Abu Raub said: I do not know as to who is in doubt. Abu Burda said: I narrated it to 'Umar b. 'Abd al-'Aziz, whereupon he said: Was it your father who narrated it to you from Allah's Apostle (ﷺ)? I said: Yes. Sahih Muslim 2767d So answer my question, if Christians can carry your own burden, why can't Jesus carry my own burden? dofman:Don't worry, shebi Allah has assured u even if your sin is big as mountain, he will find one innocent Christian or Jew and throw the sins on him. That doesn't make sense because no Christian or Jew ever said he came to carry the sin of another man. But Jesus did, Jesus said I'm here to carry the burden of those who follow me. So allow me to follow what Jesus told u to do while u start looking for that christian Allah told u will carry your sin. Matthew 11:28–30 (ESV) 28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 12:18am On Dec 05, 2025 |
Qasim6:How do u know we have Nada, how do u know the letters we have are not authentic? Of course, the scholars told u, not the Quran or any thing else. But when the same scholars scrutinise the letters deemed authentic, and conclude the believe in atonement thru death of Jesus Christ came from the original disciples of Jesus, then scholars can no longer be trusted. U see say u Muslims get serious problem. Qasim6:Pls be a honest Muslim and learn to read the letters of Paul properly. Yes, Paul said the gospel he preach came from Christ himself and not from any human authority. But he also said in the same letter of Galatians that he presented the gospel he preach b4 the apostles for scrutiny and approval. James, Peter and John scrutinised the gospel preached by Paul, approved and endorsed it, then told Paul to go ahead and continue preaching the gospel to the Gentiles. Galatians 2 2 I went in response to a revelation and, meeting privately with those esteemed as leaders, I presented to them the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles. I wanted to be sure I was not running and had not been running my race in vain...... 7 On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcised..... 9 James, Cephas and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised. The disciples of Christ in Jerusalem approved the gospel of Paul. That's the truth u guys wants to ignore. Qasim6:Pls bring evidence the ebionites are linked to the early disciples. Bring evidence the ebionites were among the early disciples of the church in Jerusalem in the early first century. As far as we know, there's no first century source that mentioned ebionites as a sect in the early church. None. If u can bring evidence that the ebionites were mentioned as being part of the early Church headed by James, that will be a great game changer. The argument here is what is the believe of the church in the early 1st century in Jerusalem. What is the significance of the death of Jesus to the church headed by James the Just. Qasim6:Oh God, u have come again. The question is Isaiah 53 about a suffering Messiah? Yes or No. Forget about Jesus and Isaiah 53. It's not relevant here. Is Isaiah 53 a prophecy about a Messiah coming to suffer and die for the redemption of his people? And this psalm 91 u yapping about isn't considered messianic by any ancient Jewish or early Christian tradition. Why do u consider Palam 91 messianic prophecy? Why do u think it's about Jesus? Is it because Jesus quoted a verse from it. If that's the case, then u should consider Palam 110 and Isaiah 42 prophecy about Jesus because Jesus quoted from those chapters. I think that's only fair. Qasim6:Oda, ko buru. If u cannot trust the owners of the Torah to understand their own book properly..... Then tell us, who is Isaiah 53 talking abou? And regarding Isaiah 53. 10b, your problem is thinking the original hebrew word used for offspring/seed which is zera means literal biological children. No the word zera can be used metaphorical, spiritual esp in prophetic literature. See my attached post for better understanding... Then read Mathew 13.1-10 for the offspring/seeds of the Messiah. John 1 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— Qasim6:Really Paul is not the problem anymore but the Nicene creed. What about Jesus that proclaimed his disciples should baptize in the name of the Father, Son and holy spirit. If u are honest with yourself, u would admit that verse is definitely a Trinitarian formula. As regards Nicene creed that u are now blaming. Let's see what it says about the only One God. We believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. So the so called heretic Nicene creed u guys love to blame proclaim The Father as the only One God. So who next are u going to blame, Pentecostal or Martin Luther?  U people are not ready to face the truth Qasim6:Interesting. So the Father is sharing his glory with an Angel. I thought God shares his glory with no one. So this Angel is so special that the Father gave him his name, allowed him to be worshipped and be called God Almighty. Mr Man, that's 2 Gods u are alluding to in case u don' t know. That makes u a polytheist. If u believe in the existence of an Angel in heaven separate from the Father but can be called God Almighty in any shape or form or as a mediator, that makes u a polytheist. You believe in 2 beings (2 existence) who are Gods. HEAR O ISRAEL YHWH YOUR GOD IS ONE. The problem is if I bring how the ancient Jews understand this divine agent called Angel of the Lord, u will say bla blah bla, I now live in post old testament era. So do the work yourself. Why did Hagar said she has seen God when she encountered the Angel of the LORD. Hagar saw and spoke to the Angel of the LORD NOT the Father. But after the encounter, she rejoiced and announced she has seen the ever living God called YHWH. Why did Hagar proclaim she saw God Almighty when she never saw the Father. Genesis 16 7 The angel of the Lord found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur...... 13 She gave this name to YHWH who spoke to her: “You are the God who sees me,” for she said, “I have now seen the Ever Living One who sees me. ” 14 That is why the well was called Beer Lahai Roi; it is still there.
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| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 3:27pm On Dec 04, 2025 |
Qasim6:Ha my friend, longest time. Don't mind me jare, I didn't know that doffman of a guy is a troll. I gave him evidence that Paul wasn't the first person to say Jesus Christ died for our sins, but that statement came from the Jesus Christ apostles themselves. James the brother of Jesus, Peter, John and other apostles were the first to go about preaching Jesus died for our sins even b4 Paul converted. The clown blatantly rejected it. He called the disciples of Jesus fake and disagreed with historians without producing any contra evidence. I know u will do better, what evidence do u have to counter the evidence brought forth by historical bible scholars that the source of believe in the death of Jesus Christ for atonement couldn't have been from his disciples. Regarding Isaiah 53, it's a dead case already. I ha e brought tons of evidence to prove Isaiah 53 is about The suffering Messiah. U and your confused naija Jewish friend brought none. U kept shouting Isaiah 53 is not about Jesus. That's not my argument. My argument is clear- is Isaiah 53 about a suffering Messiah who will atone for the sins of his people. What do pre Christian Judaism believe about Isaiah 53, how did the 2nd temple Jews understand Isaiah 53. That's my question. I told u b4 that 2nd temple Judaism believe in 2 Messiah. Kingly and priestly (suffering) messiah. Read about Messiah Ben Joseph and learn the truth my friend. Finally your fried has no idea how the word God Almighty is used in the bible including old testament. So he's confused about Trinity. Let's see if u can do better.... This is what Paul, the so called founder of Christianity has to say. But for us, There's One God, the Father, by whom all things were created, and for whom we live. 1 Corinthian 8.6a So Paul the guy u Muslims love to hate is affirming the Shema. There's only One God who is the Father. And since we follow Paul as u guys claim, them it makes sense for me to also say There's only One God who is the Father. Why then is the old testament calling The Angel of LORD Almighty God. Why is another Person (The Angel of the LORD) called God Almighty in the old testament. The Angel of the LORD appeared to Abraham, Jacob and Moses, and he's called God Almighty and YHWH. I want a clear explanation as to why there's another God Almighty in the old testament apart from the Father. Pls I take God beg u, don't come with the excuse the bible in corrupt argument. Pls, if u don't know be honest enough to say I dont know. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 3:06pm On Dec 04, 2025 |
doffman:U are waste of time, u respond like a troll. Your faith is blind, that's why u rejecting evidence up and down. U denied what's written in the bible, u denied what the apostles of Christ himself said, u rejected what James the brother of Jesus and head of the Jerusalem church said, u denied what scholars and historian said. U rejected what's written in the old testament about salvation. Besides, Shema is not a commandment but declaration of faith. U even called disciples of Jesus Christ (people who ate and drank with Jesus) fake apostles. What blasphemy, in case u forgotten, your Quran called them Muslims. U said 'i don't care what the apostles of Jesus said, they are fake apostles'. This is what Jesus told his disciples.... Acts 1 7 Jesus said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” So if we can't rely on the apostles of Jesus to tell us the teaching of Jesus, who should we rely on? A fraud who relied on Christians living in arabia to help him write the Quran? Someone who came 600 years later. Your faith is blind my friend. Open your eyes and see the truth. Muhammed is nothing but a fraud. Someone that died the exact same way God warned him he would die if he's ever caught forging revelation- his aorta will be cut in half. And had he forged some statements in Our name, We would have certainly seized him by the right hand, and then severed his aorta(69:44-46) It was narrated from ‘A’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) used to say, during the illness of which he died: “O ‘Aa’ishah, I still feel the pain of the food that I ate in Khaybar, and now I feel that my aorta is being severed from that poison.” Narrated by al-Bukhari (4165). U insisted Jesus never said he will carry the sins of others but couldn't explain why Allah said he will throw the sins of Muslims as big as mountain on innocent Jews and Christians. If Jews and Christians can bear the sins of Muslims, why can't Jesus bear the sins of believers? That's the thought provoking question u should be asking. Anyway to your question. This is what Paul, the so called founder of Christianity has to say. But for us, There's One God, the Father, by whom all things were created, and for whom we live. 1 Corinthian 8.6a So Paul the guy u Muslims love to hate is affirming the Shema. There's only One God who is the Father. And since we follow Paul as u guys claim, them it makes sense for me to also say There's only One God who is the Father. Now since u claim u know the bible more than pastors and Christian. And since I have shown u the most hated Christian in the world declares God as the only Father in his letters. Tell me why the old testament is calling The Angel of LORD Almighty God. Why is another Person (The Angel of the LORD) called God Almighty in the old testament. The Angel of the LORD appeared to Abraham, Jacob and Moses, and he's called God Almighty and YHWH. Mr bible expert, explain to me why there's God Almighty in the old testament apart from the Father. Pls if u are not ready to answer my question don't quote me. There's no point talking to someone who rejects the teaching of Jesus Apostles or the teaching of Jesus brothers. U are free to continue with your blind faith and live in delusion. When u are ready for us to test and scrutinise your faith, u can mention me. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 7:10pm On Dec 03, 2025*. Modified: 2:14am On Dec 04, 2025 |
dofman:JESUS SAID BAPTIZE IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Mathew 28.19 Christ himself gave us the trinitarian formula. dofman:Jesus disciples called themselves the way Acts 9.2 The Jews called them Nazarenes Acts 24.5 Peter the head of Jesus disciples called believers Christians. 1 Peter 4.16 However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name. U can call yourself whatever fancy your desire, koko be say FOLLOW CHRIST AND BECOME A BELIEVER. dofman:It's a well established fact by historians and academic bible scholars that The disciples of Jesus Christ were the first to declare Jesus died for the sins mankind. This is based on the Corinthian creed which declares Jesus died for our sins and resurrected on the 3rd day . All non christian bible scholars and historians agree this tradition was establish by the early church in Jerusalem before Paul converted. Robert Funk (Non-Christian scholar, founder of the Jesus Seminar): “…The conviction that Jesus had risen from the dead had already taken root by the time Paul was converted about 33 C.E. On the assumption that Jesus died about 30 C.E., the time for development was thus two or three years at most.” [Roy W. Hoover, and the Jesus Seminar, The Acts of Jesus, 466.] Michael Goulder (Atheist NT professor at Birmingham): “The creed goes back at least to what Paul was taught when he was converted, a couple of years after the crucifixion. [“The Baseless Fabric of a Vision,” in Gavin D’Costa, editor, Resurrection Reconsidered (Oneworld, 1996), 48.] Gerd Lüdemann (Atheist NT professor at Göttingen): “…the elements in the tradition are to be dated to the first two years after the crucifixion of Jesus…not later than three years… the formation of the appearance traditions mentioned in the creed falls into the time between 30 and 33 CE.” [The Resurrection of Jesus, trans. by Bowden (Fortress, 1994), 171-72.] The Oxford Companion to the Bible: “The earliest record of these appearances is to be found in the Corinthian creed, a tradition that Paul ‘received’ after his apostolic call, certainly not later than his visit to Jerusalem in 35 CE, when he saw Cephas (Peter) and James (Gal. 1:18-19), who, like him, were recipients of appearances.” [Eds. Metzer & Coogan (Oxford, 1993), 647.] So there you have it. History tells us the followers of Jesus Christ who are supposedly Muslims were already preaching Christ died for our sins before Paul appeared on stage. That's the truth that u have to force yourself to swallow. THE DISCIPLES OF JESUS AND NOT PAUL GAVE US OUR BELIEF. dofman:That's a big lie. Even your religion says Allah will throw the sins of Muslims on innocent Jews and Christians Abu Burda reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with as heavy sins as a mountain, and Allah would forgive them and He would place in their stead the Jews and the Christians. (As far as I think), Abu Raub said: I do not know as to who is in doubt. Abu Burda said: I narrated it to 'Umar b. 'Abd al-'Aziz, whereupon he said: Was it your father who narrated it to you from Allah's Apostle (ﷺ)? I said: Yes. Sahih Muslim 2767d So Allah himself understand it's impossible to enter paradise with burden of sin on your head. His own solution is to pour the sins of Muslims on innocent Christians and Jews. Very unjust behaviour from a so called loving Allah. Learn your own religion Mr Man dofman:Unlike you, I know my bible. Even the old testament prophesied the Messiah bearing the sins of others. Isaiah 53 10 it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin, 12b because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. Hebrew 9 15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. Romans 3 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished dofman:olodo. The church Christ established is not the building or congregation. The church is the body of Christ and He is the head. If u believe in him, then you are a part of the church. John 17 20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. dofman:Yes . Jesus being a prophet like other prophets , they preached oneness of God . I don't have any doubt at all that Jesus and previous prophets all emphasized oneness of God. Hear o Israel, YHWH, your God is ONE YHWH. So u are barking at the wrong tree with your one God ranting. dofman:So u don't believe Messiah is coming back? I thought in Islam, Messiah is also coming back to break the cross and kill the pig. dofman:So are u saying Christ is not coming back? Is that what u saying? Then how will he die, Quran said Jesus will die, how will that happen if he doesnt come back? dofman:The disciples of Jesus were the first believers to declare that Christ died for our sins. Even non christian academic bible scholars agree that Disicples of Jesus in Jerusalem went about declaring that Christ died for the sin of mankind. This is what Peter has to say about Jesus Christ 1 Peter 1 3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you. This is what another bible historian Richard Carrier has to say about the early tradition within the early church- Corinthian creed which states Christ died for our sins and resurrected on the third day. Richard Carrier ( Atheist bible NT scholar and mythicist): In fact the evidence for this creed dating to the very origin of the religion is amply strong; and there is no reasonable basis for claiming otherwise. It’s what distinguishes Christianity from any other sect of Judaism. So it’s the only thing Peter (Cephas) and the other pillars (James and John) could have been preaching before Paul joined the religion. So the Corinthian Creed, definitely existed and was the central “gospel” Christians were preaching in the early 30s A.D. That’s definitely no later than a few years after the purported death of Jesus. It's almost certainly a pre-Pauline text composed within a few years of when Jesus was believed to have died. https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/11069 dofman:U guys are already condemned, u profess love for Jesus but disobey his commandments. matt 15.8 “‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Muslims don't love Jesus, if u do, u will follow his commandments Jesus said, pray to God by calling him Father; Muhammed came and told u not to call God Father. Jesus said, pray quietly in your room and do not disturb others when you pray, Muslims will block road and pathways when they pray inconveniencing others. Jesus said only Faith can get you to heaven- you are justified by faith, Muhammed told u guys that good deeds can get u to heaven Jesus said my blood is for remission of sins; Muslims reject the blood of Jesus and believe they can get to heaven by paying off their debt with hard work. Jesus predicted his death thrice, Muhammed came and lied it only appeared like he was crucified. How u guys believe this bizzare statement will never cease to amaze me. Up till today, Muslims cannot tell us who was crucified? U don't follow Jesus, u are followers of satan, your Father. John 8.44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. dofman:debunked already. dofman:debunked already. dofman:not believing Messiah is coming back takes u out of Islam, say your shahada again. dofman:I already showed u we follow what the disciples of Jesus preach and profess. Or u want me to blind you with more evidence? dofman:u dont know Jesus. There's no independent divine revelation of Jesus in the Quran. All you have in your book about Jesus is plagiarism from our gospel- both canonical and apocrypha. Muhammed simply copied what he heard from his christian slave friend Jabir and lied he heard it from God. Even the people of Mecca called him out. They noticed anytime Muhammed visit his Christian friend in the slave quarters in Mecca, he will bring out his revelation the next day- that's what we call a pattern recognition. The Meccans were right to spot it out. U guys have nothing on Jesus we Christians don't already know. dofman:Jesus didn't change the story of Moses or Abraham but affirmed it. Muhammed came and changed the story of Jesus, he said Jesus wasn't crucified and didn't resurrect. Who should I believe, Jesus disciples who ate and slept with him, then preached he died for our sins; or a fraud who simply repeated what his Christian slave told him and lied it was a revelation? who should I believe dofman:Moses, Abraham and all previous prophets predicted the mission of the coming Messiah. Genesis 22 16 and said, “I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, 18 and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me.” Genesis 3.15 15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your sons and her sons. And it will come about that when her sons observe the Law and do the commandments they will aim at you and smite you on your head and kill you. But when they forsake the commandments of the Law you will aim and bite him on his heel and make him ill. For her sons, however, there will be a remedy, but for you, O serpent, there will not be a remedy, since they are to make appeasement in the end, in the day of King Messiah. Targum nerfetiti dofman:You these pagans people no get shame at all 😀😀 People that can't pray to their Allah without bowing to a stone 5 times a day calling others pagan. U guys are king of pagans- u are confirmed idolaters. U guys are no different from african traditional idolaters who bow to idols in the morning when worshipping their deity. God warned Moses about bowing to stones, Muhammed came and told u guys it's ok to bow down to stones. bunch of filthy and unashamed pagans. Genesis 26 “‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God. dofman:u better avoid me here otherwise I will destroy the little faith u have in your prophet. ask of me from your fellow Muslims here, I shatter false believes. That's my specialty. not only muslims but atheist and some confused nigerian jews as well. |
| Crime › Re: Two Dutch Brothers Murder Their Sister In Honor Killing. by SIRTee15: 5:19pm On Dec 03, 2025 |
NOETHNICITY:NOETHNICITY What happened to people of Constantinople when Muslim jihadist took the city.... MASSACRE..... 2 Likes
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| Crime › Re: Two Dutch Brothers Murder Their Sister In Honor Killing. by SIRTee15: 4:30pm On Dec 03, 2025 |
NOETHNICITY:Maybe u should start by researching what your Muslim jihadist did to Christians that prompted the crusade. 1 Like
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| Crime › Re: Two Dutch Brothers Murder Their Sister In Honor Killing. by SIRTee15: 4:26pm On Dec 03, 2025 |
NOETHNICITY:The question is what precipitated the crusaders to go to war. Muslims attacked and seized Christian lands. This is not about who were victims of war. Muslims also killed minorities when they seized Christian lands.
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| Crime › Re: Two Dutch Brothers Murder Their Sister In Honor Killing. by SIRTee15: 2:36pm On Dec 03, 2025 |
NOETHNICITY:The crusade was a response to Muslims invading and stealing Christian lands. Muslims invaded and took Jerusalem, Christian Syriac communities in Arab land. Crusade was an attempt to take those land back. 1 Like |
| Crime › Re: Two Dutch Brothers Murder Their Sister In Honor Killing. by SIRTee15: 2:33pm On Dec 03, 2025 |
Truejihadistont:I initially thought I was talking to a sensible human being. Someone who calls himself jihad can't be normal. Hack down your daughters when they start having sex b4 marriage. See what happens to u here in naija. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Christians Are Begining To Admit That God Is USELESS. Can't Solve Insecurity by SIRTee15: 3:03am On Dec 03, 2025 |
Expanse2020:Who is the Angel of the LORD in the old testament and why is he called God Almighty? Let's start from there. shebi una muslims talk say una no wan get svnse |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 4:26pm On Dec 02, 2025 |
Did Jesus say he's a Prophet? Yes Did Jesus say he's the Son of God? Yes Did Jesus say he came to die for the sins of mankind ? Yes Anyone who claim to believe in Jesus but disagree with the above answers is a LIAR. Muhammed lied that Jesus is not the Son of God who should I believe, what Jesus said about himself or what Muhammed said about Jesus. FOLLOW THE TRUE JESUS CHRIST |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 2:36pm On Dec 02, 2025*. Modified: 4:26pm On Dec 02, 2025 |
dofman:Muslims are funny. They bring up argument against things nobody debated or believed otherwise. Did Jesus preach God is One ? Yes. Did Jesus say he's a Christian ? No Did Jesus say he's the saviour of the world? Yes Did Jesus say he came to die for the sins of mankind ? Yes Did Jesus establish his church for his followers? Yes Did Jesus preach the kingdom of God and invited the gentiles to into the kingdom of God? Yes Did Jesus say he's coming back for his church ? Yes Did the disciples of Jesus preach Jesus died for the sins of mankind? Yes. A true Christians agree with all my answers above. All. If you disagree with any of my response. You are not a follower of Jesus Christ. So who is following Jesus Christ? Muslims or Christians. Why should Jesus come back and find me in a place he never commanded me to be? Jesus told his disciples to dwell and worship in the church till I come back'. Why should he come back and find me outside of the church? Why should he come back and find me in a mosque when he never told me to worship in the mosque. Mr Man, u have been deceived. Come back and follow the true Christ. How can a book come 600 years later said things contrary to what the Jesus and his disciples taught and u guys wants us to believe it. Makes no sense. Even Jesus Christ will call u a fool. |
| Family › Re: Which Is Harder To Raise, A Boy Child Or A Girl Child? by SIRTee15: 12:48am On Dec 02, 2025 |
In naija, girls are harder to raise due to financial pressure. In western countries, boys are harder to train especially black boys. So long as u push girl child along the religious line, she will be fine. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Gay Marriage In Church Inevitable" - Most Rev Cherry Vann by SIRTee15: 7:14pm On Dec 01, 2025 |
dofman:Jesus didn't come to form any religion. All religion are man made, doctrines created by men to control fellow men. Jesus simply said 'follow me and I will make you a disciple and then lead you to the Father" Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21, Luke 18:22 - Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” Luke 14:27 - Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple. John 12:26 - If anyone serves me, he must follow me ; and where I am, there will my servant be also. If anyone serves me, the Father will honor him. |
| Crime › Re: Two Dutch Brothers Murder Their Sister In Honor Killing. by SIRTee15: 4:35pm On Dec 01, 2025 |
Truejihadistont:Are u ok. What's wrong in 18 year old girl having boyfriend. She's an adult at 18, someone who should be in university. Go to naija and see how many of your females have indiscriminate sex in university. From hook up, friends with benefit, couples living on campus. How many of them gets killed. And if not for double hypocrisy, have u condemned the Muslims men having sex with underage girls in the west? Have u condemned adult Muslim men forcing 12-13 year old girls into marriage. Sexual behaviour is the same globally, it's the attitude that differs. Travel to the west and see if it's that easy to bed an 18 yr old western girl. Most guys go years without sex here in the west. 1 Like |
| Crime › Re: Two Dutch Brothers Murder Their Sister In Honor Killing. by SIRTee15: 4:22pm On Dec 01, 2025 |
Truejihadistont:That doesn't justify her being killed. |
| Crime › Re: Two Dutch Brothers Murder Their Sister In Honor Killing. by SIRTee15: 4:14pm On Dec 01, 2025 |
olasesi:because the perpetrators are Muslims and their actions is backed by their religion. 1 Like |
| Crime › Re: Two Dutch Brothers Murder Their Sister In Honor Killing. by SIRTee15: 4:07pm On Dec 01, 2025 |
Islam is a religion made for men. If I'm a Muslim, I will never consider leaving Islam since I'm a man. Women in Islam are not only subjugated but humiliated when they err. Muslim men are free to do whatever pleases them so long as they are willing to fight and kill for the religion when the need arises. But the women, it's a different story all together. Go to UK, and see how Muslim men are hounding 14-16 year old white girls esp those eastern European girls. Everybody looks the other way including the useless 2 tier police force. But let them hear that their sister has a boyfriend, that's when u will realise these animals have no regard to human life. 2 Likes |
