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So this madness has entered Canada....
Kids looting stores in broad daylight. Some of these kids are children of immigrants.
I'm sure their parents also said 'we doing it for our kids, we moved to Canada so our kids can have a better life's
See better life in action.




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Jerkbaba:
When I first got that question I asked my self even more questions.

When did this happen?
What caused it?
Why will a man act more feminine?
Does toxic masculinity effect this?
And much more questions. I started doing research on the topic, and after a couple of days of work I concluded why and what caused it.

Here are the main 4 reasons why men are becoming more feminine.

Women won the gender war

Women won the gender war, with the increasing idea of equality, and women becoming as valuable as men.

it’s no surprise when men start to acting more feminine to make up for the lack of use that men used to do.

In other words, men are more useless than ever before, woman are getting paid the same salary as men with lower work hours, and less suffering, women don’t need men anymore, of course this will cause men to become more feminine.

Men are useless

As I said men are more useless than ever, causing them to hate themselves, and become more feminine.

The idea that every man is toxic

The term toxic masculinity becoming the same as masculinity, men started hating their gender causing an insane amount of men becoming more feminine.

This could also cause gender transformation, or a man becoming a women.

How can we stop this?

Men are hating themselves because women don’t need them anymore , or because men is now interchangeable with the phrase toxic masculinity.

This all happened since we want men to stop killing, hurting, or even raping other people, so the idea was to make men more feminine by showing that women don’t need men.

Which isn’t true, any woman knows the need for a strong independent man.

To protect, provide, and support them.

Men need to start becoming men, not in the sense that their toxic, but also not in the sense that their weak.

You ve been watching all those useless podcast shows on tiktok. Let me tell u something, u are more intelligent and highly cerebral than those nonsense arm chair pseudo analyst on podcast shows. Those guys dont know jack, and 99% of what they say makes no sense even to themselves.
They dont even believe in what they say, they only do it for the money.

understand street life and the real game on the street. u will realize all these feminine/masculinity talk is hogwash.
women will forever bow and will be controlled by Men with means and resources, and knows how to use it. Women of all ages respect authority and they recognize one when they see it.
why do u think Pastors in churches easily sleep with their female members. u think the women dont know its a sin?

Busybrain2233:
At the emboldened, a right thinking Atheist would point out evidences that would trigger your thoughts on the said discourse, but believing it after pointing those evidences to you is totally on you.

Secondly, we are yet to confirm in total certainty if the universe is eternal or came to exist by a first cause.

So the fair answer that you would get from an Atheist would be "i don't know yet". Religious folks are the people that claim to be sure that the universe caim to exist by a first cause, and it always triggers that infinite regress question of how did the first cause came to exist?

So Bros, hope u get it now?🤷

Very fair and logical answer.

Now as an atheist, answer this question
B4 mount Everest was discovered what was the highest mountain in the world?

Explore2xmore:
Now you try to get it.

Once humans bite the dust they sure will push up daisies since the heart stopped

We both saying the same thing.
Allah warned he will kill Muhammed by sliding his major blood vessel- life artery, if he's ever caught lying.

And that's exactly how he died. Muhammed groaned his aorta- life artery was being severed.

Do U get it now.

Explore2xmore:
So a questionable medical expert says there are no differences in blood vessels?

You don't know that blood vessels in the human body come in various shapes and sizes, each with distinct structures and functions? Grasping these differences is essential for understanding blood circulation and the impact of different conditions on vascular health.

Al-Wateen as used in the Quran refers particularly to the aorta while al-abhar can refer to the aorta or other major arteries.

Al-abhar is used metaphorically as in the hadith metaphorically expresses the intensity of pain or a life-threatening condition.

The term al-abhar within Arabic language is used to describe a state of severe pain or suffering. In medical discussions, especially in traditional and alternative medicine, “al-abhar” can refer to conditions seen as debilitating or even life-threatening. It metaphorically connects to the concept of deep, penetrating pain that can impact a person's overall health and well-being.

Come let me slize your carotid artery since it's not the aorta.
Let's see if the outcome will be different from cutting your aorta.

FRANCISTOWN:
Stop it now! What are you saying?

If I said I've got a unicorn right in my house. And you say I do not have. And I ask you to give me a proof that I do not have the unicorn.

That only means that I'm demented and deranged.
Because, even a primary school kid knows that the burden of proof rests on the shoulders
of whoever claims the existence of stuff.

Have you seen why I said this discourse is intellectually depleting?

Your analogy is weak because I don't live in your house to know if U have a unicorn or not. I can only made decision based on what U tell me.

We both live in this world and dwell in it. Nothing I have access to is denied for U. We both exist in the same space.

Evidence that made me conclude there's a God is equally accessible to U.

Anyway, Let me ask U a question.
Before mount Everest was discovered, what was the tallest mountain in the world?

AntiChristian:
AI translation?

Chai! Chai Chai!

Your AI gave you what you want based on your antecedent!

Don't bring any Muslim source here. I need independent source not a fake source saying medical jargon like a vein extending from the head to the feet.

AntiChristian:
Is that what you can clearly see in the link above? Chai! Now i know you can see but have no sight!

Yeah, that's why you couldn't say anything before!

You guys are liars!



So in essence you brought the same medical illiteracy to counter us right? Can't you see the foolishness in what you are typing?

How much of the nervous system do you even know apart from the normal circulatory system organs, veins, arteries and capillaries? You believe only in scientific medicine because your religion has no such field! We believe in all forms of medicine in so far as it doesn't involve disbelief. You seem drunk like the Biblical description "Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, like a mighty warrior overcome by wine." Psalm 76:65. You don't have a monopoly of abusive mouth!

Which show are you enjoying when you are trying to define our religion for us you liar?

Oga there's no such thing as vein extending from head to feet. It's medical jargon.

Anywhere I did my own independent research on meaning of Al wateen and Al abahr and they both mean the Same thing.

Your scholars are correct. They were right in thier translation.

You guys are the one doing wuruwuru....

AntiChristian:
Stop the lies! Allah never mentioned "Aorta"!
Who are the Arabic scholarship you don't even know?

Na me even get time dey argue with a deluded and ignorant liar!

Same foolish argument from David Wood over a decade ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6st_tFj6ouM

That have been rebutted comprehensively https://www.call-to-monotheism.com/prophet_muhammad__peace_be_upon_him__and_the_taking_of_poison

So both al wateen in the Quran and Al abahr in hadith denotes blood vessels. Then what's the difference!!!!

I even thought they would mean different organs with different functions. Not knowing is same blood vessels for both words.

U guys are jokers.

Allah is saying if we ever catch Muhammed lying in our name, we will grab him and kill him by severing his blood vessels- meaning he will bleed to death.

Muhammed cried out he's dying and seems like the poison has cut through his blood vessels - meaning he's bleeding to death.

Pls how is this different!!!!
In case U dont know, U only made things worse for Muhammed because U actually confirmed Muhammed died the way Allah said he would kill him if he's ever caught lying- bleed to death.

Btw the definition of Al wateen is medical nonsense- there's no blood vessel extending from the head to the feet thru the back. That's medical ignorance in display.

That such word could enter the Qur'an supposedly dictated by an all knowing Allah shows his level of medical illiteracy.

U guys should continue exposing your dirty linen outside, we enjoying the show.

Explore2xmore:
Reject evidence?

Did prophet Muhammad pbuh practice cupping for sickness?

What proof is there that all cupping done after the Khaybar expedition was for poison effect if he practiced cupping for other ailments before this?

So all bacteria as an example are equally sensitive to the same type of antibiotics? Is this how you practice medicine?

I didn't state unequivocally the poison had left his body but ask you to find medical evidence of singular exposure to food poisoning lasting for years before killing the subject and you are having gargantuan delusions. Keep silent so you don't convince people you don't know.

Obviously you have nothing unquestionable to prove your case. Make sure you know what you are talking about before making statements.

Did U read the link I sent U on poisoning or U started your crazy unsubstantiated argument again.

Don't worry, just swallow a sip of industrial acid...just a sip. Since it's just a sip, I'm sure u will overcome the initial toxic effect on your system.
Only that we will make good money out of U treating your chronic esophagitis and gastritis till U die.
Shebi U want to prove stupid to extricate Muhammed.

Regarding what your prophet did with cupping, your answer is here...
Once again kiss the truth unless U want to tell me U know better than muhammed's companions

AntiChristian:
What are the names of the erudite scholars?
How are they erudite? Can we know their qualifications?

He that mentions a proverb in an in-law's place will have to interpret it.

I regard you as a liar. You said the word is exactly the same. But clearly it is not. It was translated exactly the same way but not as you said!

That's a big lie.

Then you accused me of being the mastermind of convincing the mods to transfer a post against Islam to islamic section.

Something I wasn't even aware of. Na so then go lie on your ass!

Allah said he will kill Muhammed by severing his aorta if he's ever caught lying in his name.

Muhammed cried out when he was dying that it feels like his aorta is being severed.

If U think the Arabic scholars did a shoddy job, then correct them by bringing the evidence here.

epainos:
You analyzed it smoothly, bro, as if the United States can survive by producing for itself...that is a nation that relies on others to produce for her. The United States has threatened Canada, Mexico, and China with sanctions if they do not stop drug trafficking. We saw how Trump quickly went to his Truth account to announce that the Mexican president had accepted his offer. Lol. And the woman immediately explained her position, which differs greatly from what Trump presented. So Trump wants the woman singlehandedly to go after drug traffickers, which the US and Mexican governments have been fighting for decades. Lol.

Again, he is threatening BRICS. lol. The good news is that China is being slammed twice. Lol. Of course, another one will follow, and this will be the third.

Let us see how the US survives after slamming everyone with a 100% tariff increase. That is a nation that relies on imports. We are watching.

As I said earlier, I never said Trump's plan would work but sitting down and doing nothing is not an option either. Is it?

Reliance on foreign countries for import is not a healthy option either and being an import dependent economy isn't good for any country.

So U saying American president shouldn't do anything about it sounds negative to me
Dependent on import leads to trade deficit, negative balance of trade, budget deficit, inflation, ballooning national debt, increasing govt borrowing and pressure on the national currency.

The only reason America is able to survive despite struggling with all the above is simply because the us dollars is the global currency.
America is able to sustain his over one trillion dollars trade deficit and over 30 trillion dollars national debt because the rest of the world use the dollar for global trade thus America export her inflation to the rest of the world.

Now if the rest of the world is now saying they don't want to use the American dollars for global trade anymore, that means the inflation caused by the trade deficit stays home and of course that will impact the domestic economy.

So U saying an American President should just sit by and do nothing sounds hypocritical to me.
Either he force the rest of the world to continue using the dollar as global currency which is not feasible on the long run OR he looks for ways to cut down on the trade deficit.

Trump is trying to do both, how this is a problem is what I don't understand.
Trump is the only us president who is actually trying to solve real America's economic problem without causing any wars.
People should at least give him credit.

AntiChristian:
But this your "exactly" is false! It looks exact in English but not so in Arabic.

So it's not exact!

That's why I requested you state the words translated in the Qur'an and hadith to Aorta!

I'm not going to indulge in your nonsense Arabic linguistics argument.

Erudite Arabic scholars have done a good job translating the Quran and hadiths to English.
If U think they did a poor job with the Arabic words they translated to aorta. Then it's your duty to bring the evidence here.

Explore2xmore:
Desperately looking for a means to validate your error or uphold your claim to medical expertise? Please do much better.

Which is correct please? The prophet was well enough to go on long journeys, hajj, fasting or he was persistently sick due to the effects of poisoning?

Cupping was a well-known treatment endorsed by the Prophet pbuh so you cannot authoritatively say you have conclusive evidence linking it directly to his response to the poisoning incident at Khaybar.

Please do a thorough job and don't rush back to post to reveal yourself.

I think we done here - I hate it when people reject evidence because it goes against their claim.
If U want to reject your hadith, that's your business.
hiding behind medical pathophysiology to extricate your Prophet would not safe him.

Muhammed knew what killed him and he voiced it out while dying. The hadiths confirmed it.

Your hadith is clear- MUHAMMED SUFFERED FROM THE POISON EFFECT RIGHT FROM THE TIME HE INGESTED IT TILL HE DIED.
LEARN TO KISS THE TRUTH.

Now if you want us to deal with the actual pathophysiology of Muhammed's poison effect, I will educate U but first answer my question

Was Muhammed wrong to say the poison was still in his body during his terminal illness 3 yrs after consuming the poison.

Was Muhammed wrong to have attributed his terminal illness pain to the poison effect still in his body.

If the poison had left his body as U trying to claim, why did Muhammed groan that he was dying as a result of the poison effect still in his body.

Answer the questions and I will give U a proper teaching on the poison pathophysiology U confused about.

epainos:
Everyone is curious about how this will end. To be honest, Americans should be pleased with this bold move; however, for BRICS, it should be a wake-up call to bull crap the US. We will see who wins here. The US wants to go against Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. Hmmmm. This is very tricky. But I suppose the United States must try; otherwise, they will lose everything. And BRICS must also resist; otherwise, they will be crushed for the next 50 years. As soon as Trump gets on board, the US will either continue to reign or begin to fall. Whatever the case, I pray that God's people are protected and provided for. It is well.

Trump's option is better than threatening to invade other countries for ditching the us dollars.
Every country has every right to use her strength in its favour. China does it all the time, that's how they got foreign companies to transfer technology to local Chinese companies in exchange for domestic market access.
USA is the biggest consumer of finished goods and Trump iis right if he wants to weaponise that market against foreign competitors.

Whether he would succeed is another thing entirely, but nothing wrong in trying. As I said earlier, better than invading countries n causing wars.

The biggest issue with BRICS alliance is China itself. China is no doubt a powerful economy but built around export. China is only interested in buying raw materials from the rest of the world, in return they sell to others consumer products. China would only buy natural resources from other BRIC nations and nothing more.

This pattern would only work for BRICS if there are
other suckers to buy Chinese products otherwise that arrangement cannot work.
BRICS economy is too small to consume any significant Chinese products and many of them like India would not want to end up being Chinese export dump.

That's the weakness Trump wants to exploit.

Explore2xmore:
There you go again.

Is asking you to tell the arabic word used for aorta in the hadith and the Quran equal to throwing the hadith away?

Indeed you know too little about Islam, Muslims and prayer to conclude that bowing in a direction is what prayer in Islam is about. Can you pray to God directly without going through Jesus?

So as a medical expert you don't know that
the human body primarily expels food poison through vomiting and diarrhea. These processes act quickly to remove harmful substances and activate immune responses to fight off infections.

In many instances of food poisoning, symptoms typically diminish after a period of hours to days, depending on the specific pathogen involved, as the body effectively clears out the toxins and pathogens. Recovery includes replenishing lost fluids and nutrients.

Where are narrations that support this happening to the prophet after eating the poisoned lamb?

Where is the change?

Is exposing the absurdity of your argument when you refuse to answer what you know that the arabic word in the hadith and quran for aorta are different now change?

I ask you other questions to reveal your error to you.

You mentioned hypothetical food poisons and its clearly shown how these cannot be the case and you are pathetically anxious as you have been exposed?

Know what you want to bring in your mock apology to question the truth of Islam.

Ok I found answers to some of your questions.

It looks like the effect of the poison on Muhammed was chronic and progressive as he used to fall ill as a result of the poison.

So your argument that Muhammed's terminal illness couldn't be as a result of the poison holds no ground.

He had recurring illness all through his last years on earth as a result of the poison.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/32762

Explore2xmore:
There you go again.

Is asking you to tell the arabic word used for aorta in the hadith and the Quran equal to throwing the hadith away?

Indeed you know too little about Islam, Muslims and prayer to conclude that bowing in a direction is what prayer in Islam is about. Can you pray to God directly without going through Jesus?

So as a medical expert you don't know that
the human body primarily expels food poison through vomiting and diarrhea. These processes act quickly to remove harmful substances and activate immune responses to fight off infections.

In many instances of food poisoning, symptoms typically diminish after a period of hours to days, depending on the specific pathogen involved, as the body effectively clears out the toxins and pathogens. Recovery includes replenishing lost fluids and nutrients.

Where are narrations that support this happening to the prophet after eating the poisoned lamb?

Where is the change?

Is exposing the absurdity of your argument when you refuse to answer what you know that the arabic word in the hadith and quran for aorta are different now change?

I ask you other questions to reveal your error to you.

You mentioned hypothetical food poisons and its clearly shown how these cannot be the case and you are pathetically anxious as you have been exposed?

So I do t understand U. Are U saying the food poison the woman gave Muhammed are pathogens?
Do U really know what are pathogens?
Do U understand what is meant by food poisoning.
I think U mixing up two different scenarios here.
Read below to have a clear view of poisoning

https://www.msdmanuals.com/home/injuries-and-poisoning/poisoning/overview-of-poisoning

Explore2xmore:
Know what you want to bring in your mock apology to question the truth of Islam.

Was Muhammed wrong when he said he's dying from the poison he consumed 3 yrs prior to his terminal illness.

Answer above question first and then we will discuss this your pathophysiology of poison U obsessed about.

Explore2xmore:
The very height arrogant grandeur. Simply tell us the words used for aorta in the hadith and the Quran?

1. Does hadith contradict the Quran?
2. If it does which take precedence?
3. You make a silly example of a 10 year old feeling the immediate effect of sipping acid and forget one of the hadith you and your mischievous ilk rely on talk about a companion immediately feeling the poison effect and dying?
4. Why was the consumption of the poisoned meat not stopped before this?
5.Why did the prophet continue to receive revelation after this?
6. Why did he and was he able to embark on long journeys, battles and pilgrimage after this?

another complete nonsense.
as usual, when they are stuck, muslims deny the source of the information and start shouting its corrupt. Now he has thrown the hadith under the bus.
just imagine disparaging Aisha mother of believers and calling her a liar.
FYI, Aisha is the source of that hadith, she was the one who told us Muhammed's death bed confession.

Explore2xmore:
You will surely find that the most intense of the people in enmity toward the believers are the Jews and those who associate others with Allah

Muslims should be last people to call others Idolaters. People who cant pray to their Allah except they bow down to a black stone in arabian peninsula.
If that is not the perfect definition of paganism, then I dont know what else it could be.

Explore2xmore:
I extra highlighted the lies you try to push on me. Is this how you lie to people you falsely claim to attend to medically?

Oniro.
Is this not what u wrote earlier today

Does the hadith specifically say the poison is still in his body? Where are narrations stating he felt this pain before this hadith?

demanding the absurd from me. After I reset his brain, he's now changing mouth.

Explore2xmore:
Fake medical expert resorting to chatgpt?

From what you generated can you first show the immediate symptoms the prophet exhibited or any others he showed related to food poisoning in the years before the sickness from which he died?

When I say you are feigning medical jumbo to hide you only try to prove me correct

I'm not going to waste my time with a medical illiterate who had no idea what is food poisoning despite good attempt at educating him.

Even a 10 year old knows better than to consume a tiny sip of acid as a one off.
It's effect on your esophagus and stomach can be permanent damage for life.

Explore2xmore:
Arsenic: Long-term low-level exposure leads to chronic effects, while acute symptoms arise quickly.
Was the prophet repeatedly exposed to arsenic poison over a prolonged period?

Lead: High-level exposure results in immediate symptoms, with chronic effects building up over time.


Amanita Toxins: Severe illness can develop days after ingestion, with a delayed onset.

Ethylene Glycol: Symptoms appear quickly, typically within days after ingestion.

Does the hadith specifically say the poison is still in his body? Where are narrations stating he felt this pain before this hadith?

For the umpteenth time as you show you have the means to what are the arabic words used for aorta in the Quran and the hadith?

U do t know how contradictory U are beginning to sound. In your bid to exonerate your Prophet from his death bed confession, U end up calling him a LIAR.

U asking me to find the hadith that says the poison Muhammed ingested is still in his his body 3 years after he swallowed it. Yet your hadtih stated Muhammed attributed his terminal illness to the same poison he consumed 3yrs prior.
Sorry but your question doesn't make sense.

Muhammed said the poison he consumed 3 yrs b4 is still in his body and U here telling me Muhammed is wrong. Instead U insisting the poison had left his body!!!!
You claim the poison has left Muhammed's body while sick on his death bed, but Muhammed is saying otherwise. Muhammed said he's suffering from the poison in his body

One of you must be lying. Either you or Muhammed.

U see how desperate attempt to defend your Prophet is turning U crazy. Continue at the end, everybody go dey alright.

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FRANCISTOWN:
A person of my reputation should not indulge this kind of intellectual depleting discourse.

In my own opinion. The most thoughtless question to ask is "what evidence do I have that Jesus is not the son of God?"
Like, there is no evidence that Jesus was the son of God to begin with. There is no evidence for Yahweh himself, who is the supposed father.

There is something called the consistency paradox or the grandfather paradox under the concept of time traveling and parallel universe in quantum physics.

To put it very shortly. An offspring cannot exist without the parent.
Jesus cannot exist without Yahweh. The whole existence of Jesus rests on the existence of Yahweh. But there is no evidence of the existence of Yahweh himself. Hence the consistency paradox.

Have you seen why I said I shouldn't waste my time on such IQ depleting discourse?

I'm sorry, but if that's the best you could do. You need to up your game.

The biggest headache I have with layman atheist is they don't know how to argue.

You came here and said U rejected the bible because it said Jesus is the son of God.

Is this now what U wrote...

If you said Jesus was a normal human being and not a special son of God and not alive. It would have been better. We could say, fine. He went down in history like any other.

But saying he is a son of God and that he is one special thing is nothing but a joke.

When I asked for evidence of why U rejected Jesus as Son of God, U started ranting about metaphysics

What does metaphysics and quantum physics has to do with a statement in the bible?

Next time just say U don't believe in the bible because it's content contradict the law of physics or Yahweh doesn't exist. Simple and spare us all the unnecessary headache.

If U don't believe God exist, we shouldn't be talking about the bible at all.

That's what we call external evidence!!!!
Do U get it now.

I don't think I want to take U on metaphysics because my experience with atheists is they don't understand metaphysics in the first place.
Atheist contradict themselves so much when it comes to metaphysics. They just like throwing fancy and big words around to sound intelligent; terminologies they themselves do t understand

And what U wrote up there supports my assertion.

You wrote Jesus can't be Son of God because U believe there's no existence of God in the first place. And since Jesus can't be come out of nothing, then Jesus being son of Yahweh is a lie meaning Jesus saying he's the son of a non existent thing makes no sense.
This argument is related to the law of infinite regress which brings us to law of cause and contingency.

Now here is the problem.

Atheist will want to us to believe that our universe and every existence we know came out of nothing.
Matter, mass and time that comprise the universe came into existence out of nothing.

To atheist the law of infinite regress makes sense when it comes to the universe and our existence- we don't need a first cause to exist.
But when it comes to Jesus being the Son of God- suddenly law of infinite regress no longer makes sense and there has to be a cause.

According to atheist, for Jesus to be Son of Yahweh, the principle of 'necessary being' must be applied- Jesus must come from a cause. But when it comes to the universe, the principle of contingency thing should be rejected- universe can exist without a cause.

Above is a clear contradiction. And that's why debating atheist on metaphysics is a waste of time.

Explore2xmore:
Extremely simple Mr Medical expert present cases of food poisoning that have taken over 3 years to kill their patient.

You listed some compounds that can predispose to aortic dissection but fail to show that this occurs when they are chronically used. Is a singular ingestion at poisoning equal to this?
Single exposures to nicotine, cocaine, methamphetamine, carbazide, or plant toxins may not directly lead to an aortic dissection.
Stop hiding under illusory medical expertise and show exactly how.

The prophet did not continually complain of pain after the poisoning though apparent reference was made to it as he neared his passing. Bring other narrations between the poisoning and his illness before his death unless you now claim he took ill immediately after the poisoning?
Your art of deception is marvellous when you can't answer or refuse to answer questions clearly asked

I had informed of a metaphoric statement regarding the crossed.

Tell me how a singular medical exposure will take over 3years to kill a patient without any ailment seen during the period since ingestion?

Arsenic, heavy metals, lead poisoning. Plant toxins like mushrooms poisons- amanita toxins, ethylene glucol.
A single exposure can cause injury to your organ depending on the concentration and dose U consumed.
Even one time consumption of industrial acid can cause irreversible damage to your gastric lying leading to permanent gastritis.
This damage can become irreversible leading to progressive damage to your organs leading to future complications.

You obviously don't know what U talking about. You punching far above your weight.

Now answer my question

Why did Muhammed lament that the poison he ate 3 years ago is still in his body and it's cutting through it's aorta.

TenQ:
It was most likely deliberate since even the OP will not recite the Shahada just to continue his dialogue. Most Christians will not recite the Shahada just to post on nairaland.

Shameless!

Very annoying and shameless.
I'm sure it's the handiwork of that AntiChristian.
Everything is blasphemy to them.

Nukilia:
Religion is a tool for manipulating the minds of people in our society

I agree. That's why Jesus Christ refuse to establish any religion.
He knows how dangerous religion could be.

Explore2xmore:
For someone who isn't scared, embarrassed and feigning medical expertise by mumbo jombo identity the different words for:

1. aorta in the Quran and hadith

2. Show medically how a single exposure to food poisoning will kill the victim years after without showing any ailment except shortly before death.

It is medically improbable that prophet Muhammad pbuh died directly from food poisoning over three years after exposure to the toxin

So why did Muhammed say he still felt the poison in his body 3 years after eating it.
And I already told U Muhammed didn't die from food poisoning. U this clown.

Why did Muhammed lament that the poison he ate 3 yrs ago is still in his body and it's cutting his aorta.

FRANCISTOWN:
Lol! Child's play. Na you go tell me how historical evidence works? 😂

This is not a kind of discussion I should waste my precious time on.
Lol! I expected you to do better. What evidence do I have that Jesus is not the son of God? Really? 😂 😂

So U just woke up one morning and concluded Jesus isn't the Son of God?

My question is clear. What evidence do U have both internal and external that made u conclude what is written in the bible is false.

It's not a difficult question to answer. If U are an intelligent and diligent atheist as U claim.

A Christian brother called mightysparrow created a topic called Islam And It's Impacts On Modern Day Yoruba People.
Note This thread was created by a Christian and not a Muslim.
People will not believe that the topic has been moved to the islamic section where U have to say the Shahada before U can comment.

The question is why? How did a topic created by a Christian brother end up in the islamic section?.

The trend of the thread extended to whether Muhammed was killed by Allah because he was a false prophet.
I brought evidence from the hadith and Quran to support the assertion that Allah killed Muhammed by severing his aorta possibly because he was a false prophet.

No Muslim could refute my claim. All they yapping about was the so called richness of Arabic language and the pathophysiology of poison/aortic disease.

The challenge for muslims was why did Muhammed described the illness that killed him exactly the way Allah said he would kill Muhammed if he's ever caught lying.

Next thing I noticed was they moved the topic to islamic section so that the topic could be killed.

If Muslims are embarrassed by their Prophet, that's their business not mine or any other Christian. But they shouldn't control a thread not created by them by bullying or intimidating moderators to move it to islamic section.

There was no blasphemous statement against Muhammed on the thread. Everything we Christians wrote was deducted from their books.

Above is criticism and not blasphemy. Muslims should learn the difference.
Criticising Muhammed is not the same as blasphemy against him.
Most matured Christians here don't even bother about mocking their prophet or anything like that. We simply point them to the truth in their own books which apparently Muslims don't like.

Muslims should stop behaving like cowards and learn to defend their prophet and their religion. If it's the truth, they should not be ashamed of it.

Muslims are so embarrassed by the way and manners their prophet died they didn't want the thread alive anymore- they want it dead.

Imagine the deception. If U are so proud of your prophet. Why are U scared of his dark side?

Here is what the argument is all about just to let all of u know this not a case of blasphemy or anything.

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You Muslims are cowards. Imagine U people ran to mods to take the topic Islam and it's impact on modern day Yoruba people to your hideous islamic section.
Muslims are so embarrassed by the way and manners their prophet died they didn't want the thread alive anymore- they want it dead.

Imagine the deception. If U are so proud of your prophet. Why are U scared of his dark side?

Now to your response. First let's get some things clear.

1. Allah made it clear in the Quran if Muhammed is ever caught lying against him, He would grab him and kill him by SEVERING HIS AORTA.

2. On Muhammed's death bed, he confessed his pain feels like his aorta is being severed.

3. Muhammed said the pain from his aorta started
since he ate the poison from the Jewish woman 3 years earlier.
Let's get one thing clear, Muhammed may be wrong or right about the cause of his pain. But we do know is that he died a slow, agonizing and painful death which he attributed to aortic pain.

How did Muhammad die?

Allah himself may have directly severed Muhammed's aorta and allowed it to leak slowly, thus the chronic aorta pain he had.
Allah may prolonged the half life of the poison Muhammed ate thus allowing for it's sustained exposure in his body and enough time to cause damage on Muhammed's aorta.

It's even possible Allah used another pathophysiology to damage Muhammed's aorta and may not even be related to aortic dissection or the poison at all.

The crux of the matter is did Allah fulfil his warning by making Muhammad die of aortic pain ?

Hadith are not scientific books, they are historical documents. Directly applying scientific methodology is not applicable.

But what is applicable is the spiritual and theology understanding of the document.

Allah said if Muhammed is ever caught lying and making things up. He will kill him by severing his aorta.
Muhammed confessed on his death bed that the pain he's having is like his aorta has been severed.

The question U and other muslims should answer is why did Muhammed described the illness that killed him exactly the way Allah said he would kill Muhammed if he's ever caught lying.

That's the bigger question.

Qasim6:
Ok
For the sake of this argument let's assume both words mean aorta
How does the Qur'an verse and the Hadith disprove Islam or expose our Prophet as a liar?

I thought U are king of prophecy. Why should we discard the words of Allah who said HE WILL KILL MUHAMMED BY SEVERING HIS AORTA IF HE'S EVER CAUGHT LYING.

MUHAMMED ADMITTED HE WAS DYING AND SAID IT FEELS LIKE THE POISON IS SEVERING HIS AORTA.

WHY WOULD ALLAH ALLOW HIS PROPHET CONFESSED TO THE MANNER DEATH ASCRIBED FOR HIM IF HE'S EVER CAUGHT LYING.

I DONT KNOW ABOUT U, BUT IT SEEMS ALLAH WANTED US TO KNOW MUHAMMED WAS A LIAR AND A FALSE PROPHET, THUS FORCED HIM TO MAKE SUCH CONFESSION.

Qasim6:
Before you answer the question I want you to have the following at the back of your mind

- He knew miraculously that the food was poisoned. So he did not fail the test the Jewish lady was trying to put him through.

So? Even magicians and devil worshipers have powers and charm to protect themselves from evil.
You be naija guy, that.shouldn't be strange to U.

Qasim6:
- He lived for another four years after khaybar and continue to receive revelation up untill Islam has been perfected. So he did not Just pass away abruptly.

Point of correction- Muhammed was the one who said he received revelation, no one could corroborate he ever received any revelation. Not even Aisha.

Besides God is patient and not willing that anyone should perish, but desires all to come to repentance. He always gives those he would destroy time to repent of their ways.
For example, he gave the Amalekites 400 years to repent of their ways b4 pronouncing judgement.

So giving Muhammed 4 years to repent is nothing.

Qasim6:
Q5:3.......Today I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and chosen Islam as your way...

Muhammed knew he was dying....so it's like a dying man writing his will.

Qasim6:
-The chapter that talked about cutting off the aorta is Meccan chapter and not Medina chapter so the chapter would have been revealed at the early stage of his Prophet Hood.

Are you telling us God continue to allow him made things up in his name till everything has been completed then severe his aorta afterwards to prove he is a false prophet?

Balaam was a false prophet in the bible who taught Balak how to lead Israel astray despite God warning him no to do so.
The bible didn't specify any punishment for him in any way.
So many false prophets abound to this day, why is God not killing them?

I could play the devil's advocate here and say since Muslims believe Paul is a false prophet, why did Allah allow him to distort the message of Christ that long without taking him out.
Paul also wrote in his farewell letter....
For I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time for my departure is near. I have fought a good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness which the Lord will award me.

Using your logic, Paul couldn't have been a false prophet if Allah allowed him to confidently finish his work and happily signed off.

Explore2xmore:
Kindly indulge your educated ignorance and show evidence to suggest that chronic aortic dissection or aortic aneurysm can be directly caused by food poisoning.
Present examples of a singular case of poisoning that lead to death years post administration.

Present your paper to a medical journal if you like.

This is why I don't like debating non medics on medical matters.
What do you understand by food poisoning? Food poisoning is simply food borne illness caused by bacteria and their enterotoxins.
It's different from what we talking about here.
The Jewish women added a toxic substance called poison to Muhammed's food. That's not food poisoning....ok.

So many toxins in the body can predispose to aortic dissection e.g nicotine, cocaine, methamphetamine, carbazide and plant poisons.

Muhammed himself said he started having agonizing pain since he was exposed to the poison from the Jewish woman.
He said he feels like the poison is severing his aorta. Muhammed simply described how he felt.

You are not there to say Muhammed description of his pain is wrong. He was the one in pain and described how he felt.

The question should be why did the Prophet of Allah described himself dying in the same manner Allah had said he would die if he's ever caught lying?

Qasim6:
Stop playing!
You and bringing evidence that has no substance is 5 and 6.
Bringing what some ancient Jews believed sometimes ago is not good enough, except if there is Prophetic backing to such beliefs.

They could have been wrong, they have no authority.

Ok I've heard U.
Today is not the day for that.
Let's thrash out the injeel.

Qasim6:
The Injeel, or the revelation given to Jesus, was not initially a written text. Instead, it was likely transmitted orally, and Jesus disciples may have recorded it. It is most likely what Papias was describing that Matthew wrote in Hebrew or Aramaic. these early writings are now lost and are distinct from the canonical Gospels we know today.

The Gentile Christians which later became the predominant movement did not preserve this document because it was at odd with their beliefs because we know that the Christian sect that used this version of Matthew gospel were later declared heretic.

I asked U b4 and I will asked U again. Have I heard of Didache? Who used it?

Qasim6:
So the question is if Mathew indeed penned something down and it is not what was later named Mathew in the New testament, WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT AND WHO THE HELL FORGED ANOTHER FORGED DOCUMENT (MARK'S GOSPEL) THEY LATER NAMED MATHEW??

Dont disturb your head. The gospels books were not called Matthew, Luke, John or Mark in the 1st century. They were not even known as gospel until the 2nd century.
The gospels were initially called the memoir of the apostles. That was the name early Christians called them.
So stop barking at the wrong tree regarding name of gospel. Focus on the injeel.

Qasim6:
The Arabs might have been using the word injeel to mean the gospel of Jesus before Islam and it has already became a word they were familiar with. We know Injeel is the arabized form of euangelion and euangelion definitely the Greek translation of what it would have been in Aramaic because Mathew that we are told was the first to write the gospel wouldn't have named the document he wrote euangelion since he wrote in Hebrew or Aramaic.

Just like Isa is more likely an arabized form of Iesous rather than Yeshua. and there is archeological evidence Isa was used by Arabs before Islam.

Guy I'm not interested in your verbose obviously made up fake theory. I'm not here to discuss the Christian gospel.
I'm asking U about the injeel. ALLAH CALLED THE MESSAGE GIVEN TO JESUS THE INJEEL.
THE INJEEL IS MENTIONED IN THE QURAN AND QURAN IS MEANT TO BE ETERNAL.

MY QUESTION IS CLEAR,.DONT ANSWER Question I DIDNT ASK U...

1. THE INJEEL IS WRITTEN IN WHAT LANGUAGE?

2. IF INJEEL IS NOT WRITTEN IN GREEK, THEN HOW COME THE BOOK HAS A GREEK NAME.

3. WHAT IS THE NAME ALLAH GAVE TO THE MESSAGE OF JESUS. WHAT IS THE MESSAGE OF JESUS CALLED.
WHAT DID JESUS CALL HIS MESSAGE.

EVERY MESSAGE SENT BY ALLAH HAS A NAME

ALLAH CALLED THE MESSAGE GIVEN TO MOSES THE TAWRAH
ALLAH CALLED THE MESSAGE GIVEN TO DAVID THE ZABUR
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE MESSAGE OF JESUS AS GIVEN BY ALLAH.
WHAT DID ALLAH CALL THE MESSAGE OF JESUS
ALLAH SAID IN THE QUR'AN 'WE GAVE THE INJEEL TO PROPHET ISA'
WHY DID ALLAH ASCRIBED A GREEK NAME TO THE MESSAGE OF JESUS IF THE MESSAGE IS FOR THE JEWS?

Qasim6:
Of course it has been corrupted long before the Prophet. But some of the teachings of Jesus Christ still find there way into the canonical gospels like the hypothetical Q gospel. so there is still some elements of truth in the forgeries.

Ok are U saying the gospel circulating during the time of muhammed- 6th and 7th century period was corrupt.
I will like U to confirm above.
because I don't want U to change mouth later when I bring evidence.

AntiChristian:
Answer the questions I asked before you ask me yours? If you're ignorant just tell me!

I don't care about Arabic language or the many richness or meaning it has. Bocs that's lie u was to jump to.

Erudite Arabic scholars have done a good job translating the hadiths and Quran for us.
Your opinion is inconsequential!!!!

Below is your answer.

Now tell me How many meaning does aorta have in Arabic?