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AntiChristian:
If you like visit the Qur'an as far as the thread is not about Islam i reserve the right to answer or not!

So in essence, only John is correct while the others are wrong?

1. Mark 15:26 - The inscription:“The King of the Jews.”

2. Matthew 27:37 - The inscription: “This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”

3. Luke 23:38 - The inscription: “This is the King of the Jews.”

4. John 19:19 - The inscription: “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”

AntiChristian:
That's none of my business! What's written in those languages? Or do you mean the four options are written in those three languages on the cross?

That's 12 inscriptions on Jesus's cross!

AntiChristian:
How's that our business? I am talking about the inscription and you are trying to divert to another thing!

Which of them is true? Which are wrong?

Are all of them true to you too?

AntiChristian:
Abeg, it does matter!

If you're asked what the inscription on the cross is you can only give one of those options!

Which makes others wrong!

Was "Nazareth" written on the cross?

I know where this will end!

Paul's the letter killeth and I need the holy spirit to explain things to me!

Why didn't the holy spirit correct Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to write the correct inscription?

All of them are different! Each having a 0.25 probability of being true! That's a low possibility!

Veetee:
These days I have been wondering how the dating pool has gone from bad to worse.

I would make this story brief. A friend of mine though married was trying to get a side chic for himself.
He met a girl on instagram and they have been chatting for sometime. He shuttles between canada and nigeria, since his family lives abroad.
We both had a man to man discussion where he talked about getting tired of doing runs girls that you would have to pay money to nack

The girl is a student of unical. So while he was in canada they both got talking, doing video call and the rest.
Once in a while he sends her money, 250k, 100k from time to time.

Then he said he noticed something, the girl travelled to zanzibar in Tanzania on a pleasure and vacation trip. He said during that period she doesnt respond to calls and text messages. he was wondering how a student could afford such an experience trip out of the country. In my mind I was like these young yahoo boys must have sponsored such trips.

After he returned from canada to nigeria, back to his base in lagos. they got talking and he asked her to visit him in lagos from calabar

He sent her 320k for her flight ticket. she requested for some other money which he sent 100k.

Omo after she got the money she didnt book the ticket because according to her the network was bad and she doesnt want it to het stuck.

They started going back and forth of this booking issue. my friend got frustrated along the way , that was when i got to know about the story.

sometimes he would call she wont respond, claiming she is in class. At the end my friend asked her to return the money to his travel agent
somehow she found that suggestion annoying. She angrily told him to send his own account so she can refund that she is no longer interested in seeing me.

My own conclusion in this story is if you are dating a beautiful girl in nigeria, you have a lot to do. The competition is very fierce.

These young yahoo boys at the moment have so much money to lavish on these ladies. If you are a young man doing legit hussle, my advice for you is just focus on your hustle.

AntiChristian:
If.a man comes upon on your sister and she gets pregnant what do we say? And you all agree God can become man once on earth! Holy spirit can come upon Mary to make her pregnant! Same as Genesis 6:2.

I will keep writing in fact I wrote two yesterday and more in the pipeline!

You think you can derail the thread?

AntiChristian:
If.a man comes upon on your sister and she gets pregnant what do we say? And you all agree God can become man once on earth! Holy spirit can come upon Mary to make her pregnant! Same as Genesis 6:2.

I will keep writing in fact I wrote two yesterday and more in the pipeline!

You think you can derail the thread?

AntiChristian:
I don't think I need to reply you any longer after this.

The appeared as a perfect man. What's illogical in this? Your own angel can appear and fight Jacob yet lose! How did he lose?

The Angel was sent to make give Mary the news of Jesus son of Mary and the Angel blew in to the sleeves of her garment!

How did he blow you can check your favourite porn film! You can also look for how the holy spirit cum upon her plus how the power of the most high overshadowed her!

On this topic bye!

TenQ:
A Donkey will carry a whole library on its back yet reman totally ignorant. This is the case of Antichristian and others on the fact that the Holy Spirit comes upon people for empowerment purpose: it is also called the anointing

AntiChristian:
Yes, according to the Bible he stopped!

AntiChristian:
Your hypocrisy is legendary! I once asked how did the holy spirit cum on Mary? How did the power of the most high overshadow her to get pregnant?

See the holy spirit on Samson below:
In Judges 15:14-16
As he approached Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him. The ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands. Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men.

If it's in the Qur'an now you'll shout the holy spirit supports terrorism! But you'll always have one excuse or the other for the Bible!

Christistruth02:
Those were the days

We remember someone who said as a kid he got home from school and on finding nobody at home

he was crying and begging Jesus for another chance because he thought his family had been Raptured

without him

He was still on the floor crying when his mother walked in the house

Even little kids understood the message well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiOB-pG1w84&pp=ygUVT2JhZGFyZSBzZWNvbmQgY29taW5n

bassdow:
whiteMan insists on Passport, among many other documents before allowing BlackMan visit their country despite collecting huge money as fees.
yet na same whiteMan dey promise blackMan heaven free of charge.

AntiChristian:
If Mary had seen an Angel she'd run away!

AntiChristian:
Holy did not overshadow Mary! Holy spirit came upon Mary?

How does a spirit come upon a woman? How does a man cum upon a woman?
That should be more disturbing to you!

AntiChristian:
How did the Angel do the blowing?
Tell us what you're thinking as led by the holy spirit?

The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you” is a quote from the Bible as regards Mary and the Angel in Luke 1:35

Hypocrites will interpret the Qur'an with the porn in their mind but their Bible will be interpreted by the holy spirit!

What's the Holy spirit's business coming upon Mary? Why did the power of the most high overshadow Mary? But the Angel can't blow into her garment?

AntiChristian:
What does an Angel do?
Does the Angel appear as an Angel at that time?

I think you should be able to answer the question on your own!

Qasim6:
We don't have problem with an angelic being incarnating as a man.

According to our own understanding, Angel incarnating as a man does not mean the angel will drop-by at the nearest restaurant for a hot plate of Amala. Angel incarnating as a man simply means the angel appears outwardly as a man and remain an angel in essence such that the angel does not require food, oxygen etc to function effectively.

For example: the Qur'an narrative of when 3 angels on their way to Sodom and Gomorrah visited Abraham to give glad tidings of Isaac they refused to eat the food given to them whereas they ate the food in the Biblical narrative...

For us angel appearing as a Man and becoming a man is not the same thing.

Tolu2024:
As someone trying to japa from Nigeria I want to ask this question Nigerians living in Europe how is life over there and how long will it take to get your papers if you come with work visa or how will before your wife will join you if you are married. Will through school be the best option? I really need answers please I am married and I want to leave to country my wife will join me asap.

AntiChristian:
Once again Allah never said that in the Qu'ran!

Here are some interpretations:
Sahih International: And [the example of] Mary, the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We blew into [her garment] through Our angel, and she believed in the words of her Lord and His scriptures and was of the devoutly obedient.

Pickthall: And Mary, daughter of 'Imran, whose body was chaste, therefore We breathed therein something of Our Spirit. And she put faith in the words of her Lord and His scriptures, and was of the obedient.

Yusuf Ali: And Mary the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (servants).

Shakir: And Mariam, the daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her of Our inspiration and she accepted the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was of, the obedient ones.

Muhammad Sarwar: He has also told, as a parable, the story of Mary, daughter of Imran who preserved her virginity and (into whose womb) We breathed Our spirit. She made the words of her Lord and the predictions in His Books come true. She was an obedient woman.

Mohsin Khan: And Maryam (Mary), the daughter of 'Imran who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (the sleeve of her shirt or her garment) through Our Ruh [i.e. Jibrael (Gabriel)], and she testified to the truth of the Words of her Lord [i.e. believed in the Words of Allah: "Be!" and he was; that is 'Iesa (Jesus) ­ son of Maryam (Mary); as a Messenger of Allah], and (also believed in) His Scriptures, and she was of the Qanitin (i.e. obedient to Allah).

Arberry: And Mary, Imran's daughter, who guarded her virginity, so We breathed into her of Our Spirit, and she confirmed the Words of her Lord and His Books, and became one of the obedient

As per the lie you claimed i lied, the tafsirs vindicates me!
First of all, scholars of Tafseer had several opinions regarding the meaning of Farjaha (her Farj) in the saying of Allaah The Almighty: {Who guarded Farjaha}[Quran 66: 12] Some of them said: "It means the known private part." Some others said: "It means the neck opening of her garment in which Jibreel (Gabriel) blew and that breath went into her womb; this is how ‘Eesa (Jesus) may Allaah exalt his mention was conceived."

Ibn Jareer At-Tabari may Allaah have mercy upon him said: "There are different opinions regarding the Farj that Allaah The Almighty said that she guarded. Some said: "It refers to her private part that she guarded against fornication. Some others said: "It means the neck opening of her garment from which she prevented Jibreel before she came to know that he was the messenger of her Lord. This is proved by His saying {So We blew into her} and this followed His saying: {Who guarded Farjaha}. They said: "In this way, the meaning is: who guarded the neck opening of her garment and We blew into it [her garment] through Our angel."

Al-Qurtubi may Allaah have mercy upon him said in his Tafseer: "{Who guarded Farjaha} meaning, who guarded her chastity and refrained from fornication. It was also said: "The word Farj means the neck opening of the garment, meaning no suspicion afflicted her garment (i.e. honor)." In other words, her garment (honor) is pure. A garment has four openings: Two sleeves and the upper and lower openings... " [End quote]

Az-Zarkashi may Allaah have mercy upon him said in Al-Burhaan: "Whoever thinks that it means the private part is really mistaken. Rather, it is one of the finest and best metonymy. It refers to the neck opening of the garment, i.e. no suspicion afflicted her garment (honor). She has pure garments (i.e. she is chaste); and the garment has four openings; two sleeves…etc." [End quote]

If we assume that what is meant is the private part, as is the view of Ibn Jareer At-Tabari may Allaah have mercy upon him then Allaah The Almighty has mentioned it about Maryam (Mary) to explain her chastity and prove her innocence of what the Jews, may Allaah curse them repeatedly, accused her of.

Hence, explicit mention of such matters that the questioner called 'sexual' is not considered dispraised in all conditions.

AntiChristian:
He appeared as a man! So at that moment he was a man, a messenger of Allah as the verse said!

Ohyoudidnt:
Mind your temper .

Ohyoudidnt:
A caterpillar transforms into a butterfly and is very different from a butterfly appearing as a butterfly.

Ohyoudidnt:
Becoming angry is an internal emotion while appearing angry is a perception which can differ from the truth of emotion.

Ohyoudidnt:
Part of your triune god incarnated without the rest isn't it and while in its incarnation still remained same with the other parts?

Ohyoudidnt:
Keep spinning maybe the music will one day make me dance.

Ohyoudidnt:
Social transitioning doesn't eliminate the reality or does it? Will the 'social girl' experience the real girls monthly cycle too?

AntiChristian:
That's false! A man can die. Can an Angel die when they become man?

AntiChristian:
The main difference between "become" and "appear" is that "become" means to start to be something, while "appear" means to come into view or seem to look a certain way.

You can become angry. That's means you transitioned from not being angry to being angry! But when you appear to be angry you may be truly angry or just faking it.

Ohyoudidnt:
I see that the cause of your confusion is really deep.

The way Jibril manifested did not change his fundamental nature as an angel. It was a temporal appearance to fulfil the passage of a message.

Angels can assume different forms for specific missions and still remain essentially angels.


You are trying but have feelings become physical manifestation? Please describe how anger looks

Ohyoudidnt:
So lame. So if a boy dresses up as a girl in a dress with wig and make up so he appears as a girl he has become a girl?

AntiChristian:
We don't have heavenly beings in Islam! They are Angels. They can not become human! They can appear as human!
Jesus was born human by a human woman! Angels only appear as a human! They are not born!

Becoming a man is not the same as appearing as a man!

This is false! Prophet Muhammad saw Angel Gabriel in its true form by Allah's permission! And no human ever achieved this feat as far as i know!

You are the one who can't differentiate between "becoming a man" and "appearing as a man"!

Ohyoudidnt:
No you are misunderstanding my answer. That the angels were not in their heavenly nature doesn't equate to them becoming human.

Angel Jibril never became a man but took the appearance of a man towards enabling communication.

Are you trying to claim there are records of angel Jibril eating or doing manly activities or worse?

Ohyoudidnt:
On what should the understanding of the trinity be based when it is not definitely stated in the Bible?

Ohyoudidnt:
What exactly are you saying?

Did you not say you will rather take up the confusion about the father, son and holy spirit allegedly being coequal? Is that not the trinity?

Ascertain that the Athanasian creed wasn't written in the 4th century.

AntiChristian:
We don't have heavenly beings in Islam! They are Angels. They can not become human! They can appear as human!
Jesus was born human by a human woman! Angels only appear as a human! They are not born!

Becoming a man is not the same as appearing as a man!

This is false! Prophet Muhammad saw Angel Gabriel in its true form by Allah's permission! And no human ever achieved this feat as far as i know!

You are the one who can't differentiate between "becoming a man" and "appearing as a man"!

AntiChristian:
So you think Pastor Adeboye lied or you just want to form mute before? Anyways, it good to be objective but i don't think it's bad sharing your opinion about God drinking tea!

Is the father not one with Jesus? When Jesus became man is the father dissociated from him? At least if a part of God i.e. his word can become man then his whole self can become man!


Word of God became man but God can't become man!
God can beget son but can't become man!
Sons of God can impregnate human but God can't become man!

Logically, all these doesn't make any sense!

According to Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being?

Is the breath of life Soul or spirit or both?