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Hammylawali:
You don’t understand Chinese politics and development. China doesn’t bribe, they capitalize on opportunities. You need infrastructure but you don’t have money, they will provide, build , operate then transfer it. They don’t bribe, unlike the USA 😂, masters of corruption.

Chinese companies don't bribe?
This is how U know someone who is still being spoonfed by his parents.

thesicilian:
I hope you guys are being sarcastic, otherwise I'll have no option than to think you have a severe case of inferiority complex.
Since when did it become normal to bribe government officials under any circumstances? And most importantly, would you have said the same thing if this was the Nigerian government that cancelled such a law against bribery?

Mr Man rest. Trump is right.
What's American business if Nigerian officials demand bribe b4 awarding oil well to an American company.
That's a Nigerian headache.

Chinese companies bribe African politicians like no tomorrow, and we can see the outcome all over Africa... Winning contract all the time n bringing revenue to china.

Those Chinese companies dare not try such nonsense in china, they will be hanged.

If Africa wants to be corrupt, it's not Chinese business. It shouldn't be America either.

simpleseyi:
I am sure that by now you know very well that no other religion can stop anything that we Muslims want to do

What controversial practice have U tried to enforce that worked.
Ordinary allowing your students to wear hijab in secular public schools in SW- U failed woefully.

Don't kid yourself about the muslim-muslim ticket.
Most Yorubas didn't care- Tinubu was seen as a Yoruba man than anything else.
And he proved Yorubas right. He's running an ethnocentric govt rather than religiocentric govt.

And this is the exact reason for this shariah noise. North wants to use it to divide his unflinching support in southwest.

Hammylawali:
This is a cooked up story, give me the prove where the prophet killed someone for mocking the Quran.
Let me tell you, prophet Muhammad (pbuh) gave series of laws when you’re going to war. Don’t kill the women and the child. Don’t kill the elderly and don’t kill unjustly those who surrender to you. The prophet never championed killing or taking lives. War is a different matter (as it’s kill me I kill you ), aside that no unjust slaughter or killing is permitted in Islam.
Whatever ill activities you see today it’s being perpetuated by the media and evil forces as well as some of the bad eggs amongst us. We have said and will keep saying it, Islam is a Religion of peace ✌🏾.

So U saying someone can stand in front of a mosque and tear the Quran and will leave that spot alive?

U better don't spread a false message n social media in the name of forming sophisticated Muslim.
Say it as it is. Ordinary Christian woman preaching in front of mosque- she was mauled to death in Abuja.

Golan007:
Innovation to you is only what westerners do.

Is it not innovation when it can be done with less GPU and power?

This is not your strong suit.

See definition of innovate.

So tell us what's the new thing deepseek changed.

If your next response makes no sense, I will ignore U.

Golan007:
BYD
DeepSeek.

Pls follow my conversation and maybe learn definition of innovation.

BYD didn't innovate electric cars
Deepseek didn't innovate AI chats.

Golan007:
That is based on no fact.

My fact remain China hasn't led in any innovation since their emergence as economic power.
None.
Their strength lies in manufacturing scale and replication

Golan007:
That is based on no fact.

Baidu made noise about it 2 years ago.
How far?

My fact remain China hasn't led in any innovation since their emergence as economic power.
None.
Their strength lies in manufacturing scale and replication

Golan007:
No western nation has mastered driverless cars either.

Which means it is still an open race.

In the modern day, it is difficult to hide information, and China has a policy to seek and use information.

Trust me when I say china won't be the first to produce driverless cars. That breakthrough will come from the west.
U can take that to the bank.

Kaiser20:
You are there sleeping. China has moved a Long Time

The guy is right. Even Chinese themselves agree that they are behind the west when it comes to innovation.

Their comparative advantage lies in unrivalled and unparalleled manufacturing scale and a very serious focused government.

Chinese manufacturing scale and prowess is so vast I don't think any other country can compete in another 50 years. China manufacturing value chain is almost 100% for 99% of what they produce.

The only way manufacturing can leave china is if the west or any other country develop a new way of production, like what happened during the industrial revolution when UK took over manufacturing.

The reason why U think china is technological advanced is because whatever is innovated elsewhere, once china gets hold of it, it's game over.
Trust me within few years they will replicate it and produce a cheaper if not a better version.

Look at robotics, electric cars and AI. All were innovated by the west, but right now china is leading in all 3 industry.
China is about to produce more electric cars than all other nations combined. China electric car BYD is set to be the largest car manufacturing company in the world beating even Toyota. They are growing by over 500% every year.

All those tiktok tech application videos doesn't mean innovation.
Showing videos of drones delivering fast food to homes isn't innovation. U can replicate such in Ogbomoso if the demand and resource is available.

Look at driverless cars, despite all the noise on tiktok videos about autonomous cars in china, no Chinese company has achieved any meaningful breakthrough. All they do is some experimental propaganda videos in a very controlled environment.

But let any western company start production of driverless cars, china will take over within few years.

That's their strength. Whether its a good or bad
strength, that's up for debate.

GoodGovernance:
Even your idol god “jesus”,worshipped GOD,the way muslims do with face to the ground.

Jesus fell on his face (prostrated) when he worshipped GOD. Not only Jesus and his disciples did that. Even all the previous prophets and their people fell on their faces (prostrated) and worshipped God.

Matthew 26:39 :
He went on a little farther and bowed with his face to the ground, praying, “My Father! If it is possible, let this cup of suffering be taken away from me.

According to the Quran, Muslims do not "bow down" to a stone; the act of bowing down during prayer is a sign of submission to Allah (God) alone, and while Muslims face the Kaaba (which contains the Black Stone) during prayer, they are not worshipping the stone itself, but rather directing their prayer towards the house of God as a unifying focal point; the Quran explicitly prohibits idol worship, including worshipping stones as deities.

Key points:
Worship is for Allah alone:
The Quran emphasizes that worship should only be directed towards Allah and not any physical object, including stones.
Kaaba as a direction:
Muslims face the Kaaba during prayer, but this is simply a direction to focus their prayer towards, not an object of worship.

Misinterpretation of bowing:
The act of bowing down in prayer is a physical manifestation of submission to God, not an act of worshipping a stone.

Insanity is when you use pictures of personal acts to depict the teachings of Islam.

Show me the verses in the Quran where muslims are to worship or kiss stones or where mohammed says muslims should worship jesus.

Your lies are similar to those of the slave trader king james who sold all the lies and contradictions in the bible to you.

Intelligent people quote specific references not pictures of personal decisions and acts.

If you decide to kiss the statute of Mary or the feet of your pastor,because others do it, does that make it an approved act or way of worship in Christianity?

Muslims are superior because they worship the GOD that your idol god “ jesus” worships!

Yinmu...

No Prophet called by God ever bowed to a stone in the worship of LORD Almighty. None.

Why? because God forbid such pagan act.

Leviticus 26
1“‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it . I am the Lord your God.

Only idolaters bow to stones in the worship of their deity.

Pagans arabs had been bowing to the black stone as a form of worship long b4 Islam was established. They also circumambulate the kabba during their pilgrimage to the black stone.

Muhammad appeared and attached these pagan practice to LORD Almighty.
His gullible followers never bothered to question him but swallowed the idolatry practice hook line and sinker.

The argument that you pray like Jesus is stale.

Jesus called God his Father. Jesus said if U want to pray start by calling God 'Our Father'

Matthew 6.9
Jesus said: "This, then, is how you should pray: “’Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name

Jesus also looked up into heaven when he prayed
John 17.1
After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.

You Muslims don't called Allah Father, you don't look up to heaven when U pray but U claim U pray like Jesus.
Yeye dey smell. Awon oniro

U don't pray like Jesus, U Muslims pray like pagan Arabs who used to bow to kabba 5 times a day.


Muhammed said The Son of Allah should be worshipped.
Listen to your prophet, if Jesus calls himself the Son of God, then he should be worshipped.

Don't be stubborn. Follow the evidence.

GoodGovernance:
You are the mad man here.

You’ve also been conquered that’s why deviation from the main issues raised became your option.

You human being idol worshipper that does not even know the difference between the holy Quran and hadith that has been mischievously quoted.

Only HE who sent him and greater than him deserved to be worshipped.Even jesus himself confirmed that.

By the way,the name jesus is fake and fiction,it never existed in the original bible.What we have is Yeshua.

Your idol god does not know when is the judgement day,only GOD almighty knows.

Madness is when you continue to worship a human being who has already told you not to worship him:

Jesus says true worshippers will worship the Father.

For we/you “shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve” (Matthew 4:10).

Madness is also when you refer to a topic not related to the topic under scrutiny.

Muslims should be the last person to call anybody idol worshippers.
People that can pray to their Allah except they bow to a stone.
Bunch of idolaters pretending to be monotheist.

Since you love to quote the bible so much, here is what God said in the bible about those who bow down to stones.

Leviticus 26
1“‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it . I am the Lord your God.

He will come now and tell me the verse is corrupt.

Anyway my own is clear, Muhammed clearly said in your Qur'an that Jesus as the Son of God should be worshipped.

Listen to your prophet and worship He who called himself the Son of God.

If below is not paganism, then I don't know what else should be called pagan.

GoodGovernance:


The human being god you’re worshipping does not even know when is the day of judgment:

32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33 Be on guard! Be alert[a]! You do not know when that time will come.


Shior

Very funny. Coming from someone who believes a man suffering from hallucinations actually received revelation from God.


Narrated By ‘Aisha : Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not

Sahih bukhari From the Hadith of Bukhari, Volume 7, # 660

Imagine a mad man coming to tell you he hears from God. That's exactly how it sounds.

Muslims should be last person saying shior.

By the way, does Jesus know anything. The answer is Yes.

John 16
29 Then Jesus’ disciples said, “Now you are speaking clearly and without figures of speech. 30 Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God.”

So long as Jesus declares he's the Son of God, he should be worshipped.

That's what your prophet Muhammed said in your Qur'an. Whether he was hallucinating when he said it, I don't know.

But Muhammed made it clear that Jesus as the Son of God should be worshipped.

QED. Argue with your Qur'an.

FuckYeyeMods:
Heavily influenced indeed..
80% in Christiandom lack moral right to talk about religion..
It all there in our faces.
We all heard what that Bishop was telling Trump on his thanksgiving service.
Compassion and tolerance for LGBTQ.. etc. Abeg tell me, do human have limits? Why are we advise to use cane to reset some kids.
If all the three monotheistic religions agreed to stop this new world order, it will be done without itch.
In all the religions Hinduism and Buddhist inclusive, Christianity is the most loose without passion for what they believe.
Christianity is the weak link.
Oga go rest about this 666 .. Beast... Antichrist and all sort.

pls do not equate westernization with christianity. U people and ignorance.
western world rejected christianity 100 yrs ago and embraced liberal secular values. what's that got to do with christianity
why blame christianity for the rot in a liberal society.
check the west when they had christian values and compared it to now.

u people wont travel to eastern orthodox countries that still have their christian values intact and compare.
up till today, it's a big shame in some places in Greece to have children out of wedlock. society will shun you

GoodGovernance:
Shut up your leaking mouth!

Who is greater to be worshiped,Jesus or the one that sent him.

Jesus said he is the Son of God, he deserved to be worshipped.
please dont reply me if u dont know your Quran.
Thanks.

NOETHNICITY:
I was a Christian

I left when I matured in intellect and shed away the brainwashing

Now I see through the pastors
Now I can interrogate the Bible without any reasonable answers

Christianity is dieing because it cannot withstand any objective interrogation

You are still going about with this your propaganda.
Someone I drilled on the bible and he got stuck. couldnt reason out the so called questionable illogicity he brought up himself
he couldn't answer the question and ran away.

In case u have forgotten, here is my question

If u say it makes no sense for someone to shed his innocent blood for another man to live.....
explain how it makes sense for soldiers to shed their innocent blood in the warfront so you may live.

Any other other agnostic or someone who has a problem with atonement by blood in the bible can offer to answer the question.

Lush100:
My last statement was supposed to read

Trump wants a leverage.

No.buiness can wait out a four year.
None.

Ask any business person

For real!!!!
You think it's easy to set up manufacturing within few months.
Sometimes factories takes years to build. Not to take of logistics and other integrated value chain to keep the manufacturing running.
Samsung built a factory in Arizona 4 yrs ago as a result of all these tariff issue. It's yet to be completed and not one piece of product is yet to be produced.
.I will advise U to talk to U to people in production business. I don't think U understand the scale involved in manufacturing.

Besides it's just impossible to fully built in America. It's too expensive and impractical.

FYI most made in American products today exit and enter America at least 2ce or 3ce during their phase of production b4 final completion. It's a to and fro production cycle btw America and Mexico.
That's why it's very foolish of him to place tariff on Mexico.


Most countries will simply wait it out if they think the next govt will reverse the tariff policy.
No business man will throw money into an unprofitable venture just because of political knee jerk response.

N.B I'm a Donald Trump fan but I don't support him blindly. That's the difference.
Anyway it's better America wage economic war than engage in useless political or military war.
That's the only reason I prefer trump's style of govt.

Lush100:
It soared becoz China knows Trumps increase was coming.
Better to get them in b4 Trumps tenor.
It's a business decision not a feeling.
When about 50 % of your revenue comes from a place u can't joke with it.
The increase in price will lead to lower demand. Alternative product which is still from China will be sought. So China will still want to sell to the US.

Again the alternatives from other countries will be more expensive than China but depending on how the negotiation goes.
See most Chinese companies want the US market.

China will try to reroute thru Mexico or China which are also on Trumps list.
So it's a loss loss situation for all of them including the US.

Trump was the upper hand leverage that's all.

Trump has no leverage against any country except Canada.
most countries will simply ignore him if he continues to constitute nuisance with his tariff tantrums.
best is they will wait out his 4 years tenure.
no manufacturing is coming back to USA, those days are gone.
It will take more than tariff for manufacturing to come back.
its not even about the cost of manufacturing but the intensive integrated value chain and cut throat competitiveness that comes with manufacturing, right from the natural materials to final products.

Americans and the west no longer have that advantage and the ship of manufacturing has set sail to the EAST long time ago.
for the west to snatch it back, they need to reinvent the manufacturing wheel again- a kind of disruptive innovation in the whole manufacturing industry just like they did in the 19th century.
anything apart from above is a waste of time.

The only reason Canada will be worst hit is because they will be afraid to hit america hard where it hurts- energy and elcetricity.
Let Canada cut out electricity to new york and other northwestern state and see if this issue wont take another dynamic
FYI ontario premier already said he may be forced to place embargo on electricity export from his region to USA.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
BAy the time this retard is done, even of the Dems present a cockroach as their candidate, it will win.

Same thing happened in 2020. Nobody bothered to scrutinised Biden during the campaign. They just wanted Trump out.
Most Americans didn't even know Biden had dementia until.he became President.
Now history is again repeating itself.

But I still like Trump sha. His madness no be here but his determination to get things done is very impressive.

Canada will feel the tariff hit most.

China cant even be bothered. China is now too strong and economically too powerful to be bullied by some nonsense tariff. Americans would be the ones to pay for the tariff imposed on Chinese imports.
The tariff import Trump levied on china in his first tenure is still there, Biden increased it yet china export to USA soared from 450 to 560 billion dollars within same period. 10% tariff will change nothing.
It will take more than tariff to shift manufacturing away from china.

25% tariff on Mexico import is the most foolish decision of all. Most American companies manufacturing in Mexico are those who moved their factories from china to be closer to home.
These companies produce some of their cheaper products in Mexico so they can stay competitive. It's an integrated manufacturing assembly line btw Mexico and USA.
The truth is if USA wants to move his manufacturing back home and remain competitive, they NEED MEXICO.

Canada economy is heavily dependent on export to America. 75% of their products ends up in the USA. 25% tariff will be a killer on Canada's economy.
Unfortunately, Trump doesn't want to talk to Trudeau, He even insulted him by calling him Canadian governor.
Trudeau should swallow his pride and do what's best for canada. He should call for general election and Canadians better vote in conservative govt, that's their only saving grace. Maybe, Elon Musk can help them talk to trump.

The fentanyl and immigration thing is a ruse. Only 4000 migrants crossed illegally to USA from Canada last year and only 40 pounds of fentanyl out of 21,000 pounds imported to USA came from Canada.

Trump is simply looking for ways to bring manufacturing back home and it seems Canada is a soft target.

gohf:
and what if the KJV is actually not authorized by king James and contains corrupted interpretations and verses of God's word?

I don't support the destruction or burning of it, or whatever may have happened but before you say he is misleading them why not verify if his statements have some truth to them.

Have you heard of Garima gospel?

TheNiceGuy:
Seun your platform is a threat to Muslim voice.

Use your head, the noise about shariah is about destabilising Tinubu's presidency.
Don't be a fool used by the north to return to power.

Shariah cannot be established in southwest. Non Muslims will not allow it- it will only lead to unnecessary crisis.

The question is who made sultan of sokoto the head of muslims in Yorubaland?
where and when was the decision made?

Balogun Aare Latosa of Ibadan, a great Yoruba Warrior died and was a buried a Muslim. But he gallantly fought and defeated this hausa/fulani muslims when the brought their wahala to Yorubaland.

Some of the great Yoruba warriors who fought against the jihadist in the oshogbo war in 1844 were Muslims. They killed the Yoruba muslims traitors who sided with these Fulani jihadist.

Any stoopid Yoruba who wants to be subservient to an impostor is free to move to the north or sokoto. Sultan has no say in the way we Yorubas direct our affairs.

igbosarejews:
Give them Sharia case close

Is it not the same Alfas like the one in the video that will implement the Sharia that are doing money ritual.

SeriouslySense:
Its scary how fast humans are adapting AI, and we are depending on it so much, hmm, a few years ago when i said AI will take peoples Job, some said it will take many years, see, just in few years, AI is a monster. I hate AI and i like AI, it threatens me but also gives me oppurtunities.

Without corresponding advancement in hardware tech, AI is not disrupting anything, it will be more of adaptation.

hmohammed:
It is wrong to kill anyone in Islam, however, how would you feel if someone burnt the Bible and then uploaded the scene on social media?

Let me ask U a question.
If someone insult your parents, and U kill the person.
Then the govt arrest U and sentence U to death.

How do U think your parents would feel. Do U think they will be happy their son will be killed for defending their honour?

I want to hear your thoughts on this.

jedisco:


You'd sure be a source of good entertainment at a pub.

That entertainment U will get till it chokes U.
Quote me next time I post something here.

I heard that Indian guy Vivek Ramswanmy has been kicked out of DOGE by Elon Musk.
This was a guy that was ready to give his leg and arm for Trump candidacy.

It's ok to like Trump but not for anything he will do for U or expect something positive from him.
This guys no send any non white person.

jedisco:
Dont talk, act!

Don't worry
I've discussed with mods and decided to drop it.

U can send your money to any of your family members that desperately need it. I'm sure they will appreciate it and pray for U.


But don't quote me again in this thread or anywhere else on this forum.

I believe this thread is big enough for both of us to write our opinion without quoting each other's post.

I repeat, don't quote me again.
Otherwise, that my attention U looking for, U will get it.

huptin:
All in all, the black man is still better than the arabs...he may not be so intelligent, but he is strong, amiable and smart.

In sports and entertainment the black man stands tall.

The arabs are backward in everything including strength, intelligence, sports and entertainment.

Arab can boast of Dubai and Qatar.
What can the black man boast of?
Use your head.

Besides Arab had 500 yrs of ancient global civilization and domination.
Finally they gave the world a global religion- a religion started by bunch of primitive and backwards Arab tribe.
The black is yet to rebrand his belief system to conform with global standard. They couldn't even leverage on the fact that white people are beginning to show interest in their religion e.g Ifa- Olokun spiritual worship.

MiddleDimension:
While you are going about avoiding the question, listen to Oluoma talk to you about the interpretation of Paul's instruction to Timothy, the same thing I told you, that Paul was not condemning polygamy when he tokd Timothy a bishop should be husband of only one wife. I told you he gave that injunction because of his respect for the family unit and he thought such a man would have too much at hand and thr family has to come first.

I remember I also quoted to you 1 cor where Paul said those who get married will face a lot of challenges. I also told you that the Paul we all know from his writings in the bible, would give a go ahead for a man with more than one wife to get consencrated a bishop if he could see the man can manage his home properly with church responsibilities very well.

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