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Ohyoudidnt:
Pardon my inquiry please.

Does the belief that God sent Jesus imply God did not send other prophets and only sent Jesus?

The message Jesus preached is different from previous prophets.
U have to believe in the message of Jesus to attain eternal life.

John 6
53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

AntiChristian:
No mind the guy jare!
I told him about three people in the Synoptic Gospels. Jesus forgave one without blood. The other one is the rich ruler and the third is the criminal crucified with Jesus. There was no mention of blood or death of Jesus around this three incidences! Yet they claim blood and death all the time!

No be your fault. Na that guy wey chook mouth.
I for use U wash gutter.

U ran here saying Jesus never said he forgives with blood.
I showed u evidence now U running around like an headless chicken looking for something wey no loss

When U surrender your life, do U need to know everything about Jesus Christ b4 u surrender?

Jesus makes it clear, if U believe in him U will believe in his words.

If Jesus says the ff

His blood is needed for forgiveness of sin.
His blood is needed to attain eternal life
His death is for redemption of mankind.

That means when U believe in Christ U believe in those words.



The blood of Jesus forgives all sins either committed under the old covenant or new covenant.




Jesus didn't ask us b4 he gave his blood as atonement for us. He gave his blood without us asking.
U don't need to know or ask b4 the blood does the work of atonement on us.
The blood is not for asking, it's automatic. U ask for 0forgiveness by turning to Jesus Christ, the blood atone for the sins.

That's your answer.

AntiChristian:
No mind the guy jare!
I told him about three people in the Synoptic Gospels. Jesus forgave one without blood. The other one is the rich ruler and the third is the criminal crucified with Jesus. There was no mention of blood or death of Jesus around this three incidences! Yet they claim blood and death all the time!

Did Jesus say his blood is needed to receive eternal life?
John 6

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

I'm beginning to think Paul heard when Jesus was speaking.
Their teaching are just too similar.

AntiChristian go and get your cup and drink the blood of Jesus, your salvation is tied to drinking the blood of Jesus.
Don't be determined to end up in hell. Stop listening to Muhammed, he's a false prophet

sonmvayina:
I already did..

The authors of the Jesus story/myth did.
They put those words in the mouth of their super hero/protagonist...

What else do you want to hear...forgiveness is not believing in a human sacrifice it is sincerely repenting and forsaking of sin/evil ways...

So whatever the author said Jesus said is not worth anything...

All those your tatata human sacrifice blablabla, U go chop am.
Trust me U go chop all them back.
Enjoy for now, I no get your time today.

Today na AntiChristian go wash gutter with that his big non thinking mouth.
Tell him to come here and say the gospel is corrupt.

sonmvayina:
I already did..

The authors of the Jesus story/myth did.
They put those words in the mouth of their super hero/protagonist...

What else do you want to hear...forgiveness is not believing in a human sacrifice it is sincerely repenting and forsaking of sin/evil ways...

So whatever the author said Jesus said is not worth anything...

Tell AntiChristian to come and say say so himself.
Don't speak for him.
This is his thread not yours.
Let him come here and say with his own mouth that gospel is corrupt. That the authors put those words in Jesus mouth.
AntiChristian has mouth, let him speak.
Allow him use his hand to destroy the nonsense thread he created.

AntiChristian:
No mind the guy jare!
I told him about three people in the Synoptic Gospels. Jesus forgave one without blood. The other one is the rich ruler and the third is the criminal crucified with Jesus. There was no mention of blood or death of Jesus around this three incidences! Yet they claim blood and death all the time!

If the death of Jesus is not tied to salvation, then why did Jesus say

For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Mark 10.45

Why did Jesus say his death will be for redemption of mankind.
Why will he say something like that?

Remember I asked U earlier how Jesus can shed his blood if doesn't die?
Do U see the correlation now? Significance of blood and death of Jesus for forgiveness of sin?

AntiChristian throw in the towel. Then check the response of your Muslim friends I asked about thean who took shahada and died.
They making more sense than U

sonmvayina:
I don't know why the authors wrote it ...knowing fully well that God hates human sacrifice and cannibalism in any form whether pretend cannibalism or real. I guess they borrowed them from mithraism... Christianity is just rebranded paganism if you ask me..

God was already forgiving people who sincerely repent.
I wonder why Catholics will introduce something else...

Ransome? Who asked for the ransome?
Who paid the ransome
Who received it..
Who was kidnapped?

I will need clarity..

You need to understand that's the gospel is just a theological fiction...God already gave us all we need in the Torah..

Pls if U not ready to help him answer the questions step aside and allow him carry his cross.
It's not like he asked U in the first place.

If U want to talk about the gospel, open another thread for that. Don't derail the topic.
Either answer the question or step aside.

Qasim6:
There is no confusion there.

The case of a man that died shortly after shahada is a different case, he doesn't have time to put in the work. All that matter is the sincerity of his shahada.

U are saying the same thing as Paul, a sincere faith is what gets U to heaven
That he died b4 doing any works changes nothing. If evidence of work is needed to enter heaven, Allah will make provision for that one way or another.
If Allah can allow one to enter paradise without works it shows it's NOT A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT.

Qasim6:
It is faith and work that give you paradise in Islam and I believe that's exactly what Jesus preached as in the case of the man in Mathew 19 16-26.

Paul never said Christians should ignore works. If anything he said people should work out their salvation with fear and trembling i.e put in effort to ensure your salvation is steadfast in front of God.
He equally asked if sin should abound because we have Grace? And the response was No.
He also demanded from Christians to show evidence of their faith by the fruits they bear. He said a genuine faith will produce good work.

In Christianity, we believe it's impossible for a true faith not to produce good works.
Pursue a genuine faith first, the good works and fruit follow automatically.
No need stressing over works when your faith is rotten- and this is the problem of Islam.

So all the talk of Paul saying nobody should do works are gist from the mosques that has no backing in Paul's letters.

Qasim6:
If the same man meet Paul at a later time and ask the same question about salvation, do you think Paul would give the same answer as Jesus?

Yes, answer above.
Now on this passage. Can U tell me exactly what Jesus said when his disciples asked him ':how can we be saved'? Go back to the passage and and tell me Jesus exact response to the question.

Qasim6:
Which also begs the questions

If Jesus is going about telling people to follow the commandments as a way to salvation then why exactly did he need to die?

Why did God tell the Israelites to atone for their sins with animal blood of he already gave them the commandments to follow for salvation.
Why tell them to sacrifice animals if all that's needed for salvation is obedience to commandment?

Jesus never preached obedience to commandment as a way to salvation, that's in your head.
Otherwise, what commandment did the criminal on the cross obey when Jesus promised him paradise.
What good work did zaccheus implement when Jesus told him salvation has entered your home today.
What commandment did the woman who announced Jesus obey when Jesus told her 'woman your faith has saved you'

That Jesus preached works as requirement to salvation is another gist from our mosques not backed by gospel scriptures.

Qasim6:
Teaching people the Lord's prayer "And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us" why exactly did he need to die?

Once again, why did God instruct the Israelites to atone for sins with animal blood?
Why didn't he just tell them to raise up their hands in heaven and ask for forgiveness.

sonmvayina:
He has openly and continuously told you that both Paul and Jesus preached different things...you keep ignoring it...

Forgiveness does not involve human blood. But Paul said otherwise....

Why are you not seeing it.?

Since U want to be his advocate

Explain why Jesus said his blood is for forgiveness of sin
That's what I kept asking him and he couldn't answer.
So help him to answer.

Mat 26.28

For this is my blood, which confirms the covenant between God and his people. It is poured out as a sacrifice to forgive the sins of many.

Oya Mr advocate, the floor is yours.

This is what Jesus said about his death.....
Mark 10.45


For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve others and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

So Jesus said clearly that his death and blood is for redemption of mankind.

Now since U want to chook nose into what's not your business , help your pagan friend out.

AntiChristian:
Is the thread comparing Paulinity to Islam?

This thread is about what Paul said that's wrong.

So if Paul said U need faith to enter heaven, what exactly is the problem.

Since Jesus Christ, Christians and Muslims all agree with him.

What exactly is the problem.

sonmvayina:
Save from what?
Did God not forgive , Ninevah when they accepted Jonah's message?
Was there any human sacrifice involved?

Human blood or sacrifice is an abomination in God's sight. The only God that accepted human sacrifice in Bible was a demon called Molech..maybe that's who you are referring to...
Not the creator of heaven and earth. What he needs is a contrite heart. 2nd chronicles 7:14.

Pls don't derail this thread. I do t want that Muslim guy to hide under U.
He's about to be exposed.
If U have a problem with Jesus teaching, open another thread and let me know.

AntiChristian:
Of course na!

Anyone who has even the smallest faith in Allah will enter Jannah even if he is punished for a while in hell.
In his case he reverted to Islam so all his previously sins are already wiped out!

So Jannah should be easy for him.

So how is this different from what Paul teach.
Paul aldo said the exact same thing.
That what U need to enter heaven is faith and not works.

Your works won't get U into heaven, it's your faith that happens the door of paradise for U.

Is that not what U said above antichristian, so how come U arguing with Paul when U both said the same thing.

FAITH AND NOT WORKS IS WHAT WILL GET YOU TO HEAVEN.

U even said by his faith, his sins will be wiped out by Allah.
Holy Christ, is that not what Paul also teach. That we become righteous by faith. We become saved by faith.

So where is all this anti-Paul coming from when U even agree with his teaching.

U Muslims are very confused. U guys should swallow your pride and come to Christ.
It's obvious Muslims are realising the islamic teaching makes.no sense.

AntiChristian:
Where did Allah say all these?



Allah will allow him into paradise if He wills.
We have no access to his heart if he truly believes in the Shahadah!
Allah has all access to whatever is hidden so He will judge as He deem fit.
Since he converted to Islam we'll take him as a Muslim, pray for him and bury him as a Muslim.

Assuming he wasn't a Muslim, we won't pray for him nor bury him as a Muslim.

So we judge by what is apparent.

Ar e U saying if his faith is genuine he will enter paradise.

So if I guess U right. Allah will allow him into paradise if he has faith without any work.
Is that what U saying ?

AntiChristian:
Of course his matter is with Allah! Pharoah said something like the Shahadah before he died. But his destination will be hell to abide forever! As regards the man we'll wash him and perform the funeral prayer on him then bury him as a Muslim. But only Allah has the right to determine his destination. We can only judge him by his appearance. Allah sees beyond that!

And We took the Children of Israel across the sea, and Fir'aun (Pharaoh) with his hosts followed them in oppression and enmity, till when drowning overtook him, he said: "I believe that La ilaha illa (Huwa): (none has the right to be worshipped but) He," in Whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am one of the Muslims (those who submit to Allah's Will)." Yoonus 10:30

It goes beyond just saying the Shahadah!
One must truly know the Shahadah, be sincere, honest and certain about it. And work with it!
You must also love, obey and accept it.

If I say Islam no make sense now, Muslims will say I'm insulting their religion.
How can Allah send someone to hell because he couldn't fulfil the works obligation because of untimely death.
How can someone be guilty of something he has no control over.

A Muslim confessed his faith in islam, then Allah killed him( Allah is responsible for all death in islam). Now same Allah is telling him he can't enter paradise because he did no work.

Sorry but this doesn't make sense.

I will ask other Muslims to answer the question.
Honesttalk, Qasim6, AbuTwin, Expanse, Ohyoudidn't, Lukuluku69, LegalWolf.

If a man comes to mosque and says the Shahada and actually believed in his confession; but on his way out had an heart attack and died.
He didn't do any work and didn't obey any commandment. He only had faith.

Will Allah allow him into paradise. He had faith but no work- will he enter paradise?

AntiChristian:
No, Immoral law!


I no be your teacher here before!

This is implicative law and does not mean those who fornicate doesn't love God!

My question is where did Jesus change all commandments will those two laws!
The law of stoning fornicators serves as a punishment to fornicators!

That law was abolished because there is no punishment for fornicators anymore!
The Biblical Jesus did lie that he did not come to abolish the law!
And you lied that Jesus replaced those laws with two commandments.
The context you pasted showed you lied!

Hahaha

How is circumcision related to morality.
God establish a covenant with Abraham and gave him the commandment to circumcise his descendants .
How is above related to morality.

My friend, throw in the towel. I told U your knowledge of bible is zero.
God's commandment predate mosaic law. Mosaic law is not an eternal law.

And then regarding fornication...I don't blame U as Muslim wey U be- everything na punishment.
As I can see U are confusing the law with punishment.


The law is do not commit fornication because it's a sin.

What U harping up there is punishment in case U break the law and commit fornication- it's called penal code.


For people who don't know, shariah law is not about obeying the law to please Allah. Instead, It's all about keeping the law in order not be punished.

That's why women get killed for refusing to wear the hijab.
That's why people get hacked to death for disrespecting Muhammed.

It's all about fear and not love.

That's why antichristian wants to know how Jesus instruct us to punish those who commit adultery or fornication in his new law.

The law has not been abolished. Christians are expected to keep the law of fornication and adultery.
DO NOT COMMIT FORNICATION
DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.
Any Christian who does above is breaking the law!!!

Punishment was introduced by God to discourage people from breaking the law. Punishment is not the Law.
God included penal code into mosaic law because He didn't want the Israelites to end up like their pagan neighbours.

But that wasn't God's original plan. The plan of God was for people to obey his commandment effortlessly.
When people don't break the law, there's no need for punishment.
Punishment becomes necessary when people break the Law.
And that's why he promised to write the laws on our hearts when the new covenant comes.

Jeremiah 31
33 “But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel after those days,” says the Lord. “I will put my instructions deep within them, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
34 And they will not need to teach their neighbors, nor will they need to teach their relatives, saying, ‘You should know the Lord.’ For everyone, from the least to the greatest, will know me already,” says the Lord. “And I will forgive their wickedness, and I will never again remember their sins.”

Ezekiel also prophesied this new covenant

Ezekiel 11:19-20
And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them a heart of flesh; that they may walk in My statutes, and keep Mine ordinances, and do them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their

So what's the need for punishment when everyone knows the law and obeys it.
That's the covenant Christ brought- the law of Grace.


Obviously Muhammad didn't know about Prophet Jeremiah and Ezekiel, so wasn't aware God himself promised to do away with the law written on stones.

That's why he gave U guys another law written on stone when God himself said there will be no more physical laws.

Physical law replacing physical law full of punishments instead of love cannot be from God.That's a scam.
God clearly said he will do away with physical laws.

Open your eyes antichristian and fellow Muslims, and see the truth. Muhammed is a false prophet. His teachings contradict previous prophets.

AntiChristian:
Paul said a different thing to what Jesus said!

Paul never met Jesus so he brought a new religion which surpressed whatever Jesus preached!

Boring 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

Na U dig pit, na U carry yourself enter pit.
When U ready to get out of the pit...ask for help.
Until then topic is done and dusted.

Wetin Paul talk wey Jesus no talk? Fellow Muslims can help antiChristian out..

AntiChristian:
I think there existed the moral laws before the mosaic.

Is circumcision a moral law?

AntiChristian:
Jesus was never changing the previous laws in those verses you quoted! It was a simple question and answer about the greatest commandments!

I don't know why you guys misinterprete clear texts like this!

When U open your church, misinterprete the bible as your like. Until then don't teach me nonsense.

AntiChristian:
So show where Jesus changed the fornication law and what he changed it into?

If U love God with all your heart and might, will U fornicate?

Harddiskng:
Be deceiving yourself.

It is even the women i used to pity, but now i know better. Under Islam they are worthless, a country where the laws of the land give you value. You want to bring back the islam you ran from in your fatherland. So you can worthless again.

I just remembered the story of the girl that left UK to join ISIS, after she was properly rapped: they mutilated her body. That is what you get when leave laws upholding your peace and safety. For a place where their religion permits honor killings.

Women in islam are the most confused bunch I've ever seen. They will fight u tooth and nail to let U know Islam value women.
Yet the latest one now is preference for male converts over men born as muslim by Muslim women.
These women will tell U they prefer to marry male converts from Christianity because they respect women and are not misogynist.
I wonder is it not Christian values that make them not to be misogynist? Why can't your Islam make your own men better husband.

I just taya.

sonmvayina:
Is there anywhere God said somebody was coming to change his laws.
God's laws are forever.
You have to remember that Judaism and Christianity are two different religions.

It was the Catholics that stole the Jewish scriptures and added their bull shiit .books at the end of Malachi.

God's laws are for ever..anybody coming to change them are false prophets. And God asked them to stone the person. Deuteronomy 13..

I'm not talking about God's law. I'm talking specifically about mosaic law.
Did Abraham obey the mosaic law.

U people are just jumping into this conversation and giving unnecessary expo

Let that Muslim guy come here and answer the question. Let him answer so I can use him to clean gutter.

Open another thread about the new testament if U have a problem with it. Pls don't derail this thread.

AntiChristian, admit Paul and Jesus said the same thing and I will address your other points- what Jesus said and the actions of Jesus.

If U are stuck with your own topic, admit defeat and throw in the towel.

AntiChristian:
Show us where Jesus said he summarized all the laws into 2?

Mat 22
34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Now answer my question.

Did the Law exist b4 God gave Moses the mosaic law.

AntiChristian:
I think you understand my question well. Don't try to be mischievous!

Jesus was asked of the greatest commandments and he responded with the two.
Where did he replace the law of stoning fornicators with those two commandments?

the over 600 mosaic laws were summarised into those 2 commandments by Jesus! that's common knowledge
now answer my question. did the law exist b4 God gave moses the mosiac law?

AntiChristian:


Paul didn't agree with Jesus. Paul's mantra is grace and believe in the death of Jesus to get forgiveness! Jesus on the other hand forgave someone without blood!

Did Jesus use his own mouth to announce that his blood is for forgiveness of sin.
How will Jesus shed his blood without him dying?

answer the above questions first, then we close the case on Paul and Jesus. Then we move to your next topic.

AntiChristian:
You have evaded the question now!

I have to ask because u making mosaic law look like an eternal law that can never be replaced.
That's why I need to ask.
was there a law b4 God gave Moses the mosaic law.

Fornication is a sin. sin is separation from God.
if u love God with all your heart and might- the 1st greatest commandment; why do u want to do things that will separate u from God?

AntiChristian:
Let's be clear on the abolish first!

Done away with?

Was it abolished or Changed?

If changed what was it changed to?

What's the law for fornication now?

Show us where Jesus change it in the Bible?

Let me ask u a question.
did the law exist before God gave moses the mosaic law?

AntiChristian:
So when Jesus stopped stoning Adulterers, he didn't abolish (do away with) that law?
What did he change it to?

stoning adulterers is a mosaic law, that law is now done away with.
Jesus changed it to the Law of grace- the 2 greatest commandments.

I think we going round in circles now. if u think mosaic law is has always been the law, then u better start reading the old testament books again.

AntiChristian:
Of course i am not blind nor deaf?

Jesus promised the criminal crucified with him paradise without the believe in any blood or holy spirit or trinity or Jesus as God!
Jesus did not tell the rich ruler who came to ask him about eternal life about blood redemption, trinity or accepting Jesus as Lord and savior!
Jesus didn't tell them father forgives sin through the blood of Jesus!

You remember the guy Jesus told "Your sins are forgiven" before healing him? Which blood was involved?

You are a scam!

Now that you've been trapped, next thing is to be running all over the place...
this topic is about what Paul said and what Jesus said . Did Paul teach a different doctrine from Jesus.
Now that I have shown u that Jesus verbally agreed with what Paul taught.
next thing is jumping to trinity, holy ghost, Jesus is God, Jesus is Lord, blood redemption. that's the trick of muslims polemics, once they realise they argument is nonsense they jump to next topic.
My friend stick to your own topic. DID JESUS AGREE WITH PAUL?

Christ laid down the principle of salvation in the gospel which is based on the covenant he brought. repentance and salvation through Christ Jesus with the reward of eternity. simple.

The criminal on the cross acknowledged his sin, confessed it and turn to Jesus for salvation to enter eternity. That's what Christianity is all about.
The criminal had surrendered all to Jesus and has embraced everything that Jesus stood for including his divinity and atonement through his blood.
That there should be prior knowledge of all these b4 coming to christ is willful ignorance on the covenant of grace.

and that's why I've been asking u a question since yesterday but u shamelessly chose not to answer because u know it will expose scam in Islam.

if a man comes to mosque to say the shahada and few minutes later, had an heart attack and died.
will he enter paradise.
This new muslim did no work and didnt obey any commandment. will he still enter paradise just by believing in allah and muhammed.

StillDtruth:
Did english not teach you paraphrase and subject matter? You clearly got the point of mathew 5:18 so now the qiestiom is you said "Christ fulfilled the law by changing it and replacing it.

How did He filfill The Law of Sabbath, marriage, divorce etc.?

and are these examples you gave changes?

Are they not common sense explanatiipn of The operation and reach of The Law?

Mr Man, dont teach me nonsense. bring the verse mat 5.18 here and show me any version that used the word change.
all these ignorant christians. see how u struggling with a muslim here on your own bible.

AntiChristian:
Abolish:
Means to formally put an end to something, such as a system, practice, or institution.
Implies the complete removal or elimination of something.
Often involves getting rid of a specific thing entirely without replacing it with an alternative.

Abolish vs Change
In Nigeria, the 1999 constitution did not abolish the previous constitutions but rather replaced them.

Abolish:
Abolishing a constitution would mean completely doing away with it and having no replacement or succeeding document.
In the case of Nigeria, the 1999 constitution did not abolish the previous constitutions in the sense of completely eliminating them without any replacement.

Change:
The 1999 constitution brought about significant changes to the legal framework in Nigeria by replacing the previous constitutions.
It introduced new provisions, structures, and governance mechanisms, thereby altering the constitutional landscape of the country.

Therefore, it would be more accurate to say that the 1999 constitution in Nigeria replaced the previous constitutions rather than abolishing them.

In the light of this i think Jesus lied he did not come to abolish the law!

na illiteracy dey worry u.

abolish- do away with, end it.
change- replace.

The law didn't start with the mosaic law, there was law and commandment b4 the mosaic law. THE LAW/COMMANDMENT ALWAYS EXISTED RIGHT FROM THE GARDEN OF EDEN AND WILL REMAIN FOREVER.
Jesus did not abolish the law. We still have the law. THE LAW CAN NEVER BE ABOLISHED.
Jesus changed the Law by replacing the mosaic law with something better.
CHRIST REPLACED THE LAW BY FULFILLING THE OLD LAW AND REPLACING IT WITH THE NEW COVENANT AS PROMISED BY GOD IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
It's the mosaic law that's been abolished NOT THE LAW.

AntiChristian:
So he didn't abolish the law before changing it?

Is changing the law not abolishing it?

When the 1999 Constitution was enacted it abolished all previous constitutions!
Were those previous constitutions not changed and adjusted to what we have in 1999?

Good U brought this up

Now the 1999 constitution didn't abolish the constitution. Nigerians still have a Constitution we follow.
What 1999 constitution did was to change our constitution and rendered the previous military edicts obsolete.
1999 CONSTITUTION IS THE NEW CONSTITUTION WE NOW HAVE TO FOLLOW.

In 1999 the constitution was changed but not abolished.

Jesus did the same thing with the Law.
Pls learn the difference btw abolish and change.

AntiChristian:
No he didn't!

No, it is different. The criminal crucified with Jesus didn't believe in any blood! So this is essentially false! And Jesus didn't tell the rich ruler about any blood salvation!



Paul contradicted Jesus in the fact that no blood is needed to forgive sins!
For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive yours. Matthew 6:14-15

So anyone who forgives men's trespasses will be forgiven too!

Are U blind or deaf?
Didn't U read where Jesus said his blood is for forgiveness of sin?

This is my blood which is the new agreement that God makes with his people. This blood is poured out for many to forgive their sins.
Mat 26.28

The Father forgives sin through the blood of Jesus.
Christian asks the Father for forgiveness of sin through atonement by the blood of Jesus.

StillDtruth:
Why are talking rubbish? How you do you fulfill a law eg thou shalt not commit adultery by changing it?

Secondly, before you thought that Jesus wiped out The Commandment until i showed you He Said "keep the Commandments" to the young rich man and now, here you are still bending it again to suit your lies.

For, lo did you not see Christ say to the young rich man he should obey the commandments?

Yes, the young man said he kept it, now looking at Christ's response, did you.not see that He was surprised by that and therefore, He looked to see the man's problem?

Now from Christ's response do you not see that the man's problem is his attachment to the world aka love for his riches? And clearly by his refusa and difgiculty to let go of his riches, does that not show and prove that he loved riches more than God?

And what is the first Commandment?

You are even lying against Christ for He clearly said "I CAME TO CHANGE NOT ONE JOT"! yet you say He changed it.

Be like say English language na big problem for many people.
Quote that Matthew 5.18 exactly as it's in the gospel without adding your own words.