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MossadAgent:
Brazil is as GloboHomo as they get.

The West has since turned to full blown communism.

Guy relax the current President of Brazil is fiercely any west. He's one the prominent leaders pushing for the end of dollar hegemony via BRICS alternative monetary policy.

U guys just throw words around U don't even understand

MossadAgent:
It's down to losing the narrative since the advent of Social Media and smart phones.

The govts in the west are losing their vice grip on information flow and censorship.

Now citizens are questioning the official narrative and have come to see the conventional media as nothing but an extension of the govt - operation mocking bird.


The govt is rightly scared because SM and alternative need outlets have been challenging the official state narrative.

From Covid to Ukraine war to the ongoing conflict in Gaza, govt narrative has been shoved to the dustbin.

The real press as contained in the US Constitution during its drafting was the citizens right to distribute information using the printing press. There was no profession known as journalism until the mid 19th century. Journalism is a fake profession that seeks to control what the public needs to hear.

The clamping down on SM in the name of control of misinformation and hate speech is just a fancy way of censorship.

They've lost the initiative and are now using violence to take back the press.

So Brazil is now the west?

Ningishzida:
After the Trump/Musk X Interview crossed 1B views, dont expect the Neo-cons to stay quiet and watch their NATO world domination Agenda turn to dust.

Do U even understand what you wrote. How can neocon be against trump.
Trump/Musk can never be against NATO led world domination because that's what they want.

mannobi:
Honestly this strike things are becoming irritating. Why must the first thing they think of as a union is to go on strike? Many of them have their own private ventures with terrible working condition for their staff. Do they strike at every disagreement?
I feel the national assembly should save the nation from all these unions always going on strike but still get paid eventually.

That's what U get when U run a deficient structure like the Nigerian system.
Unions will continue to hold the govt to ransom.

Unions could be made paralysed and redundant within few months but the FG first must restructure the prese t system....and that's where the problem lies.
Unions are exploiting the loophole in the present system and that's where the problem lies.

jaephoenix:
First u have to bring evidence about the existence of the metaphysical before we tango

Do U believe human has an immaterial essence?

jaephoenix:
Videos

Something that happened in 2002?

nlfpmod:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C_A1s05IvP1/?igsh=b3d4cnFoeWwzMDd0

Summary of the story
Both the girlfriend and her sister are products of failed parenting.
Imagine raising 2 daughters who turned out to be dragging same man on social media.
What a shame to that family.

jaephoenix:
If I(a random Internet dude) tell you I have 3 heads and another random dude confirms it, would you believe it without any evidence? Be honest

So tell me exactly what evidence U need.
Newspaper report?

kingxsamz:
Cool, enter his dm and tell him all that. I'm sure both of you can come to an agreement.

And @ the bolded part of your comment, not only are you making assumptions, you're also contradicting yourself. Like I said, if you cannot provide proof, there's no point. I don't want to hear "maybes", "ifs" and "there has to bes". If you're only speculating then there's no need.

Your basis on why U are atheist is very weak.
Come here let's discuss metaphysical and I will show U atheism makes no sense.
lack of intellectual cognitive rationalisation is what breeds atheism.
U just need intelligent discussion and atheism will fly out of your brain, it makes no sense.
U can't be better than philosophers who concluded on law of infinite regress.

jaephoenix:
Evidence. We don't do anecdotes here

If my sister confirms the story....will that be evidence.
I could drop a link about our conversation on the subject.

kingxsamz:
I don't need your long story. Just contact him and stand a chance to win millions.

Lots of people already challenged him but of course he cowardly ran away.
One even challenged him on rain maker.

If U not going to stick out your neck for him then don't bring him here
2.5m means nothing to me.
I'm not dealing with him...I'm dealing with U.
Don't waste my time by deferring to things U can't beat your chest on.

jaephoenix:
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So who created this very complex and powerful entity that created all those?

Go and read about law of infinite regress and First cause.
Then we can discuss.

kingxsamz:
Telling me "there has to be a creator" shows you're not even sure. So like I told the other guy, I'm not going to be arguing based on speculations and assumptions.
Also, if you say you can prove that supernatural powers exist, click this thread and stand a chance to win millions of naira. Thank me later.

https://www.nairaland.com/6761238/win-2.5-million-naira-prove

If the link doesn't work, contact him on Twitter and tell him you want to join the challenge. Good luck.

I looked at the thread but as usual, all talk from the atheist but no action.
I can bet U don't even have the liver to enter a fake JuJu priest shrine in ikorodu not to talk about the ones in the village.
U go just kpai for nothing.

Let me tell U a story about what I witnessed

There was a time our meter was stolen. Someone came into the house and stole our meter.
My Dad demanded explanation from the vigilante because he paid his monthly fee dutifully and sometimes give extra. So what exactly is their usefulness if they couldn't watch guard at night?
My dad made it clear he wouldn't pay the vigilante fee anymore if they don't fish out the thief.
Few days later, they bought a man to our house and claim he was the thief. The guy denied it but the vigilante group insisted he was the thief.
They then forced him to take an oath on his life if he's truly innocent which he did. They took him to their shrine to enforce the oath. They specifically told him if he was lying he will burst to death.
The following week, I came back from school only to hear the thief was dead. What killed him- nobody knows. He just fell ill, became edematous and died.
A lot of people confirmed he actually stole our meter.

He could have had kidney failure, heart failure, liver failure whatever- they cause swollen body.
But the co incidence and correlation cannot be ignored.

His death rattled me because that would be the first time someone's death could be attributed to me indirectly and I thought about it for a long time.

They play.... supernatural force exist. Only the naive will deny it.

I will come back and explain the limitations.of these dark powers in the physical world B4 someone open their mouth and say why is it not helping Africa
develop?

kingxsamz:
Telling me "there has to be a creator" shows you're not even sure. So like I told the other guy, I'm not going to be arguing based on speculations and assumptions.
Also, if you say you can prove that supernatural powers exist, click this thread and stand a chance to win millions of naira. Thank me later.

https://www.nairaland.com/6761238/win-2.5-million-naira-prove

If the link doesn't work, contact him on Twitter and tell him you want to join the challenge. Good luck.

If he's willing to follow me to my home town, I will prove it to him. Simple as ABC.

'There has to be' mean it's impossible for an alternative to exist.
That's the point.
That we cannot prove it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
It only shows we have not developed the technology/innovation to discover it.
There was a time people didn't know about the existence of virus. Will U then say virus didn't exist at the time of their ignorance from people.

Again read more about metaphysical. All these weak arguments have been dealt with by philosophers as far back as the time of Aristotle and Plato. They all came down with the same conclusion- there must be an intelligent design for existence to make sense.

Nothing comes from nothing, and the chain of creation cannot be infinity, otherwise there will be no 1st cause. And without a first cause, there can't be an existence.
Everything that exists has a cause. If there is no first cause, then the chain of causes would go back infinitely, and there would be no explanation for why anything exists
There has to be an ultimate intelligent design for the universe, metaverse or whatever verse to make sense.

kingxsamz:
Yes, there's no proof. And if there's no proof, there's no point. You're just suggesting.
I don't need to believe there's a tree outside my house, it'll just be a fact.

Even if there's no god, there has to be a creator.
Law of infinite regress makes lack of a creator impossible.
Nothing comes from nothing, and the chain of creation cannot be infinity, otherwise there will be no 1st cause. And without a first cause, there can't be an existence.
Everything that exists has a cause. If there is no first cause, then the chain of causes would go back infinitely, and there would be no explanation for why anything exists
There has to be an ultimate intelligent design for the universe, metaverse or whatever verse to make sense.

The argument of existence happening by chance or random makes no sense. Its a theory that has no example in our world or universe or existence.
I'm yet to see any complex creation coming by chance or random- None.
Instead there are thousands of evidence purposeful creation and generation of complex creations including the eye.
And that's what Fxmasterz just proved.

And if there's actually a creator and he generates living souls, why do U think this intelligent design do not want us to be grateful to him.
A non living soul cannot create a living soul. So that intelligent design must have a soul. If he has a soul, why do U think he doesnt want to communicate with us?

Some may argue the intelligent designer doesn't need to have a soul but the dark powers in our world is evidence of existence of a soul.

If any atheist is denying existence of dark powers, he should allow me take him to my village and witness things. At least I can prove to any atheist existence of dark powers.

I would have been an agnostic myself if not for things I saw and witnessed while growing up in my home town.

Majesty7:
Most people have lost their lives due to dehydration. When you see someone faint. The first thing is to force that person to drink water. Forget mouth to mouth rubbish. Water is life. Many have lost their lives. Still doing my research on this

U will force water down the throat of someone unconscious?
Have U heard of aspiration? I hope U know people do choke to death.

lordm:
No Chinese airport or us

Chinese airports are notorious for delays and unexplained cancellations.
US airports needs serious infrastructural upgrade.

Stoplying:
Who is USA to dictate to Syria ?
Have you forgotten the "Qaddafi must go" chants in Washington ?, they even killed Qaddafi.

are they not paying for it. The massive uncontrolled migration into europe is due to the western led removal of Gaddafi and the war they started in syria.
No country should tell another what to do, there's a price to pay for pokenosing into what's not your business.
Russia too should collect.

So since Qasim won't take up the challenge, let's close the case and move to another topic.
Summary
We have been able to prove without any iota of doubt that
Ancient Judaism believed in the divine Messiah.
Ancient Jews believed a Messiah is coming who will die for their sin according to Isaiah 53. They call him the redeemer.
Daniel 7 and 8 is reference to Greece and desecration perpetrated by Anthiochus Epiphanes.

Thank u

Qasim6:
The prophecy is not even about Hadrian. I only gave you Hadrian as an example of Roman emperor that desecrated the temple mount.

The real deal is Constantine with his blasphemous mouth he used to chant "homoousios" at the council of Nicea.

Wetin concern me with Constantine. He can shout whatever he likes, not my business.

Instead I will show U trinity in the bible and would prove it to U that ancient Jews also believed in trinity.
I will bring the evidence, he go shock U.
Ancient Jews used to read about trinity from their scriptures in the synagogue.
Challenge me and I go shock U.
In fact challenge me on any of Christian belief and I will bring evidence ancient Jews also believed in the doctrine.

I can even show U evidence that the ancient Jews believed someone was going to die and reassurect on the 3rd day in their scriptures.

That's why Paul quoted the verse in 1 Corinthians 15

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures

Challenge me on this verse and I will bring evidence ancient Jews believed the scripture mentioned someone will die and resurrect on the 3rd day.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR BELIEFS CAN BE TRACED TO THE PREVIOUS SCRIPTURES.

UNLIKE ISLAM THAT CANT BE TRACED TO ANY ABRAHAMIC FAITH DOCTRINE.
ISLAM IS PAGANISM, BOWING TO A STONE IS NOTHING BUT PAGAN PRACTICE COPIED FROM NEAR EAST ANCIENT IDOLATERS.

THAT'S WHY GOD HATE IT AND FORBID BOWING DOWN TO STONES.

Deut 16
22 and do not erect a sacred stone, for these the Lord your God hates.

Leviticus 26
Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a sacred stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.

Qasim will soon come here and say above verses cannot be trusted...
Bunch of jokers....

Qasim6:
The prophecy is not even about Hadrian. I only gave you Hadrian as an example of Roman emperor that desecrated the temple mount.

The real deal is Constantine with his blasphemous mouth he used to chant "homoousios" at the council of Nicea.

So who is the horn who desecrated the holy temple? He was mentioned 2ce.
Knowing him gives to cue to the prophecy.
He must be relevent to have been mentioned 2ce.

Qasim6:
dey there dey shine teeth. I go use prophecy wound you and your champion.

Wound who...
With your wuruwuru to the answer prophecy...
U have been arguing against evidence since we started.
In case U pretend not to miss it.
This is what John the Baptist, one of your prophets believed about the Messiah.

Qasim6:
SIRTee15

For the 4th kingdom.

It is a common knowledge the Romans overthrown the Greeks

Abi make we still delve into history mixed with some prophecies?

Drop it, U now sounding like a crack cd.
U want to delve into history. Which history? Are U better than bible scholars when it comes to history. They already told U the 4th beast is Greece and I agree.
The 4th beast had 10 horns representing kings. One of the king usurp the authorities of 3 others and invaded the holy place.

This is what Anthiochus did, he killed the incumbent, made sure the heir to the throne was trapped in Rome and later killed his joint heir.
Hadrian that U are pushing had no problem becoming emperor and had nobody challenged him to the throne.
He wasn't even among the first 10 emperors of Rome, he was number 15.

Daniel also said in the next chapter that the goat who desecrated the holy temple had ten horns and the atrocity was committed by the 4th one.
He called the goat greek empire. What more evidence do U want?
The great horn on the 4th beast couldn't have been talking about Hadrian. Titus even fit the picture better- he destroyed the temple, sacked Jews and called himself Messiah. But the problem is he did all those as a General and not Emperor.

This case is done and dusted. Argue with bible scholars who are natural historians.
Let me bust your next lie...
The prophet Moses spoke about.

Qasim6:
You can check Daniel 8 :20-21

So it had nothing to do with the 4 beasts.
Chapter 8 is about the ram and goat with horns.

So where did U see the 3rd beast was called Greece by Daniel?
Daniel called the goat Greece. The 3rd beast in chapter 7 is a leopard.

But notice a remarkable correlation in chapter 7 and 8.
Both the 4th beast in chapter 7 and the goat in 8 have mighty horns, and there's always a small horn that replace 3 previous horns- starts small and grew big. This 4th horn is always the one that defy the holy land and God's people in both chapter 7 and 8. He is the one that set himself against the temple by causing desecration

Did U notice the similarity? So if Daniel in 8 is telling U that the goat with horns is Greece who desecrated the holy land, then remove that bias islamic lens, go back to chapter 7 and look for the beast with horn who also desecrated the holy land.

Remember the unique symbol of Alexander the great, the mighty king of Greece is the HORN- Alexander the great is popularly called the two horned one.
That should tell U something.

There's no Rome in that passage. Anybody puting Rome is forcing his own interpretation.

Qasim6:
Consensus of scholars can't know more than Daniel that identified the 2nd and 3rd empires as Persia and Greece.

Quote the verse where he said above. And what empire is the 4th according to Daniel?
I can't see where Daniel mentioned Greece in chapter 7. Greece was mentioned in chapter 8 and not directly related to the 4 beasts

Qasim6:
Lol

Yeah, the Muslims brought them back.

When the Romans became Christian nation they continue to persecute the Jews. To spite them the Christains use temple mount as refuse dump. It was the Muslims led by the 2nd Caliph Umar that clean it up and allowed the Jews back in Jerusalem.

I gnored that claim because it was clear ignorance.
Immediately after Hadrian's death, Jews were allowed to return to Jerusalem.
Father Jerome wrote the Latin vulgate bible in 382 AD with the help of the Jews living inside Jerusalem.
Jerome didn't want to use the greek Septuagint for his old testament translation.
Instead he travelled to Jerusalem and met with Jewish rabbi who taught him Hebrew and helped him with the translation of Tanakh to Latin.

Qasim6:
What are you doing bro?

U better don't embarrass yourself.

Take a good look at Daniel prophecies yourself, and you will see he already identified the 2nd and 3rd empires after Babylon.

You are not getting out of this.

This is the most detailed prophecy that leads to our salvation. If you want to reject it, no problem. But don't come here with nonsense.

You are either going to accept Islam fulfilled the kingdom of God prophecy or you take it as failed prophecy. Whichever is your take, be my guest.

Cope harder.

So U rejecting the consensus of bible scholars?
Are U saying U know better than bible scholars?
Note these are all atheist bible scholars and not Christians.

Answer this question first and then I will go back to that passage and prove to U that the passage is about Greece and Anthiochus Epiphanes and Jesus Christ.
It can't be about Rome or Hadrian or Muhammad.

Qasim6:
This is the order of the kingdoms

Babylon - Persia - Greece - Rome.

If anyone give you any other order, they just want to take you for a fool, and it is definitely someone that has seen that it's Islam that fulfilled the kingdom of God prophecy and just trying to play smart. Media and Persia are the same thing.

Very interesting a Muslim is debunking bible scholars and claiming they are anti-islam.
Muslims that cent breathe without quoting bible scholars up and down- they confirmed bible has been corrupted, verses have been added and removed.
Now that table is turned, it's suddenly bible scholars cannot be trusted.
First ancient Jews, now bible scholars....
U see the hypocrisy and double standard of Muslims in glare public.

Once again I have no problem if a Muslim reject bible scholars opinion on the scriptures because they are not theists but historians. It's just the way Muslims quote them to validate their argument against Christianity that makes their hypocrisy stinks.

iamrealdeji:
Lunatic human worshipper. Christianity is perished already. Go to Europe and Americas to see how your slave masters embrace Islam everyday,don't you use social media at all? Only illiterates like you and your folks stick to Christianity with its numerous versions and errors rather than read Quran that's filled with thousands of scientific facts. Islam is world's fastest growing religion according to Google and Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is the greatest man to ever live according to Google. Maybe you're living in the past that your oblivious of what's going on around the world. Even Elon Musk said Christianity is perishing,Daddy Freeze,popular personalities around the world are saying the same. Prophet Jesus is said to be black again now,the man you so Idolize and call your God. Human worshippers will rot in the deepest pit of Jahannam hell fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

This guy is a waste of time.
Let me call other Muslims to answer my question.

Why did Allah decide to stop talking to people after 632 AD.
Why did he choose to go dumb.
Muhammed said Allah will no longer talk to anybody after him. Is that true? What's the rational behind such action.
Why would Allah just decide to go dumb after the talking to Muhammed?

cc Qasim, AntiChristian, honesttalk, expanse, Ohyoudidn't.

iamrealdeji:
Christianity is already perishing In Nigeria also,Muslims are now more than Christians in Nigeria here already and your scammer pastors are discouraging many from coming to church.

Christianity can never decline in Nigeria.
FYI, Pastor Jerry Eze just became the highest earning YouTuber in Nigeria with 7 billion naira he earned from YouTube last year.
He has over a 2 million dollars views per day, The prayer program streams daily on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, and Mixlr topped the global chart with a record 113,689,464 views.
It is also the world’s second ‘most live viewers’ gospel channel and the ‘most watched live channel’ in Nigeria.

But unlike you, myself and most Christians will never use above as evidence to validate christianity or say Christianity is true because millions are joining in live stream prayers.

iamrealdeji:
Christianity is already perishing In Nigeria also,Muslims are now more than Christians in Nigeria here already and your scammer pastors are discouraging many from coming to church making them irreligious and the lucky ones converting to Islam. God said in Suratul Tawbah that Christianity and Jewish religion will be condemned because they lie that Jesus and Ezra are his children respectively parroting the words of previous disbelievers when,they wish to extinguish the light of God by calling his creations like Jesus God whereas the likes of Jesus told them to worship none but God,Allah said his light will even shine brigjter,today,Christianity and Jewish religion are dying,Islam is world's fastest growing religion . You better embrace Islam like smart people around the world are doing now if you don't want to rot in hell

This guy is just a rambling mad man.
His evidence for validity is Islam is that white people are becoming Muslims.
White people are also embracing homosexuality, does that validate homosexuality?
I use to think it's only black Christians that worship white man. I didn't know that inferiority complex and white man worshipping is a problem amongst Muslims.
Ask any Muslim nowadays why Islam is true. He will tell U because white people are becoming Muslims.
Have never seen such bizzare response to validate a belief on my life.

Kingsempires:
Oga sirteel you get knowledge about religion well "GOD BLESS YOU" I will go and study so ancient text you called here

Thanks.
Muslims are very dubious people when it comes to validating their religion.
And it's our duty to call them out and debunk their lies.

What some of them are doing now is to claim that ancient Judaism validates Islam and that the 2 beliefs are similar.

However what they don't know is that ancient Judaism post exilic period is actually a continuation of christianity. That's why 'James the just' could boldly preach in the temple.

It doesn't even make sense. Muslims can't call Allah father. Allah clearly told them not to call him father.
But God in the old testament declared people should call him Father.

I have used evidence to wound one confused naija Jewish boy but this Qasim is proving stubborn 🐐 as usual.

He go deny tire.