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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 8:29am On Jun 10, 2024

MindHacker9009:
That's where you're getting it wrong about God writing His Original Torah on our heart. You don't become a member of any religious cult and following quality the control Magi/Sorcerers following, instead we have the wisdom of The True God of the Original Torah guiding us at all times.

How? That's the my question.
How does the highlighted happen.
If I become a member of your faith, how will I know what's in the original Torah and how to avoid the corrupted texts in the scripture.
How do I gain the wisdom of this True God? How does he guide me?
What an are the mechanism put in place by the True God to ensure we do not believe any corrupted text about him?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 6:26pm On Jun 09, 2024

MindHacker9009:
The Original Torah God has written in my heart is the quality control I use for the corrupted physical scripture you are using as your own quality control.

God wrote the Torah in your heart.
Did he write it in the heart of other members of your faith?

Christianity Etc › Re: Idowu Iluyomade Resigns Pastoral Appointment With RCCG by SIRTee15: 4:15pm On Jun 09, 2024

bukatyne:
That birthday party made them loose the support of very powerful members of his church.

Unfortunately, at their level in life, their patrons' support is as equally important as their handiwork.

And this applies to all areas of life.

When I noticed he accepted the transfer without fighting back, I knew it's an inside job.
What most people don't know is that Pastors sometimes ignore transfer request from headquarters. If they feel the transfer is not in their best interest or think it's a demotion, Pastors reject it and fight back. So long as U have the full backing of your congregations, headquarters will have to give up.

He surely over estimated his influence in that church. He forgot it's not a one-man church.
I pray he gets over it and move on with his life.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Told Matthew? by SIRTee15: 1:59pm On Jun 09, 2024

AbuTwins:
Abeg who told Matthew the Magi tori?

Mary, James the just and other Jesus family. read about oral gospel.
The gospels are not biography of Jesus. They are scriptures written by authors who gave an account of Jesus life as regard specific theology to targeted audience. They were not bound to write everything they knew about Jesus if it doesnt meet their theology cause.

Mathew wrote to Jewish Christians who felt Jesus was a just the son of a carpenter, he needed to emphasis Jesus is the spoken Messiah right from birth who fulfilled the scriptures.
Mark was writing to gentile Christians who were already familiar with the oral gospel that details the divinity of Jesus. They wanted to know more about his life as son of Man- humanity.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by SIRTee15: 1:41pm On Jun 09, 2024

AntiChristian:
Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence?

K.

Unfortunately muhammed copied some old testament verses in the bible and put them inside koran without understanding the context of those biblical verses.
That's how Islam became an eternal violent religion while Christianity and Judaism has moved away from the old testament laws.

Christianity Etc › Re: Idowu Iluyomade Resigns Pastoral Appointment With RCCG by SIRTee15: 12:08pm On Jun 09, 2024

SavageResponse:
Well the church leadership is not angry with him because he invited Flavour to his wife's birthday bash, the main reason they are angry with him is the timing and flamboyance of the birthday party considering the fact that a major financial pillar of the church died in an accident less than a month before the party.

That party was very insensitive and disrespectful considering that almost the entire family of a very important parishioner was wiped out in one fell swoop!

I think this is the crux of the matter. I doubt RCCG will make a move to remove him if powerful members of the church didn't request it. Adeboye only approved it.
The decision to have him removed must have come from within the church itself.
If above is the case, then Pastor ID goofed. As a pastor of such powerful church, U have to be highly sensitive to the feelings of your members. U should also avoid decisions that polarize the church because the outcome is always controversial.

I pray the church pull through this challenge because major actions like this could split that church or even tear it down.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Idowu Iluyomade Resigns Pastoral Appointment With RCCG by SIRTee15: 11:48am On Jun 09, 2024

Kingsley67:
RCCG WILL JUST USED YOU AND DUMP

That's why I'm asking, did he build the church from nothing to what it is now?
I've been hearing city of David as far back 2006. Just want to be sure he was the pastor as far back.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Idowu Iluyomade Resigns Pastoral Appointment With RCCG by SIRTee15: 11:40am On Jun 09, 2024

Skydivine:
People would say he proposed the parish under the grace of the GO . However, they must be something in him that attracts super rich people.
Someone that has dined and wine with mighty of the society is not just an everyday guy. He is not a push over.
Envy is the bedrock of this backlash. So many woujd want that position but a very few can sustain it .
May God not let us build for another to occupy.

Did he build city of David from the scratch?

Christianity Etc › Re: When Same-Sex Marriages Are Performed In Your Church (Photos] by SIRTee15: 11:34am On Jun 09, 2024

NOETHNICITY:
Ask yourself why Christians are fast fleeing the religion and abandoning the Bible and embracing Atheism and Islam in some cases.
Ask yourself why Islam is the fastest growing religion in predominantly Christian western countries.

The reason is because Christians societies have their ground and embracing the subjective morality of their emotions. Hence catholic priests are now mostly gays, and western Christian leaders are the soldiers enforcing LGBTQ

European countries were heaven on earth when they embraced Christianity, family values was deeply rooted in Christian faith and the bible was held as standard.

Now that they have abandoned Christ and embraced modern liberal secularism, we can see how well it's going for them.
Their girls are turning to only fans, choosing no to have kids this dwindling population. Their men are becoming effeminate, not able to build their society anymore n turning to drugs.

The choice U make determines your future. Unless the west go back Christ, they are destined for doom- it's inevitable.
Some of their cities are a mess already with even immigrants avoiding such places.

Christianity Etc › Re: When Same-Sex Marriages Are Performed In Your Church (Photos] by SIRTee15: 11:26am On Jun 09, 2024

ssgentle:
Chai God forbid ! Post like this is telling u that Christianity for the people of the past during the time of Jesus the son of Marry peace be upon him. The True religion of God the Almighty Allah is Islam and that is the only way to salvation. The Christians have lost focus and sense of reasoning because nothing offer. Think wisely before it's too late for you

I think it's high time Christians demand people should swear that Jesus is Son of God and Lord of Lords b4 writing on Christian thread.
Because I don't understand why this terrorist religion who delights in killing people for any sake will come here and talk thrash about our faith.

At least Christians are addressing their problems and talking about it. But this nonsense religion will never talk about the cancer in their community.
You will never see them addressing the terrorist acts perpetrated by their members week in week out.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 11:01am On Jun 09, 2024

MindHacker9009:
Was the first Torah given to Moses copied from any physical scripture?

The physical scripture U read today have been corrupted by Magi/sorcerers/magicians to make you believe that: Your god mated with Mary another man's wife to produce himself and then offered himself on the cross as sacrifice to himself and then flew up in the sky to return soon for two thousand year now.
That: 16,000 virgin girls from war captives, of whom 32 were your god's share.

Stop talking about the so called corrupted Torah. I'm not interested talking to U about a book you don't believe in.

I want to know more about your faith. Do U get?

God gave Moses the Torah and told him to write it down so the people can read and learn.

Where is your own book? What book do you follow?
Or are U saying God wrote the Torah in your heart?
If above is the case, Is God writing same Torah into the hearts of people in your faith?
How do U people get know God is writing the same thing into the hearts of everyone in your faith when NOTHING is written down physically to use as standard?
Where is the quality control of your Torah?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 10:23pm On Jun 08, 2024

MindHacker9009:
As long as you hold on to your scripture corrupted by sorcerers that tells you that your god mated with Mary another man's wife to produce himself and then offered himself on the cross as sacrifice to himself and then flew up in the sky to return soon for two thousand year now. Then The True God that gave the original Torah will not write the original Torah on your heart.

So you don't have any physical scripture U read. There's no book outlining the content of your Torah.
Is that what U saying?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 8:06pm On Jun 08, 2024

MindHacker9009:
The covenant is only for those who follow the TRUE GOD of the Original TORAH. The original Torah God wrote on a tablet and gave to Moses was broken and the written Torah by Moses has been corrupted by the Babylonians and later re-corrupted by the Roman Empire. That is why the True God of the Torah has said "I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people"
So that it cannot be corrupted anymore.

So where can we find this uncorrupted Torah that is written on the heart. that's my question.
Where's your uncorrupted scripture that you follow?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 1:19pm On Jun 08, 2024*

MindHacker9009:
Here is the Original Torah

Jeremiah 31:33
But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

So where is this covenant written? How do U get it inscribed on your heart.
Where do U get the instructions of this covenant.
What is the content of the covenant.

Or is that verse is the only scripture U follow?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 11:59am On Jun 08, 2024

MindHacker9009:
I follow the Original Torah and not the corrupted scripture you follow which was first corrupted by the Babylonians and later re-corrupted by the Roman Empire.

So where can we get this original Torah?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 10:45am On Jun 08, 2024

MindHacker9009:
Yes demons submitted to Jesus because Jesus is one of them and their Grand Master, that's why people who are demon possessed have been using the name of Jesus to deceive those that are naive to believe that their god mated with Mary another man's wife to produce himself and then offer himself as a sacrifice on the cross to himself.

Let me ask U a question, what scripture do U follow?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 8:29pm On Jun 07, 2024

MindHacker9009:
I'm not following anyone. I only follow God Almighty of the Original Torah. In fact I opened a thread on this sometime back see below. When AbuTwin sees the light AbuTwin will start to expose Mohammed here too.

Rest, even demons acknowledges Jesus as Son of God and submitted to him.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Exactly Is The Difference Between These 2 religious Practices. by SIRTee15(op): 1:38am On Jun 06, 2024

honesttalk21:
Is it untrue that pagans and traditionalists are classified as Polytheists? When they are pouring libation not kissing their idols is this not in their worship?

My friend, stop waffling. pouring gin on idols is the same as licking a stone. Both are veneration.
If Allah forgives sin during this practice of licking stone, then that is worship. In case u dont know, then I'm telling u now.

honesttalk21:
The stories or reports about sacred stones being placed and worshipped in Greek temples, such as the Temple of Artemis in Ephesus, are not related to the Black Stone’s origins. These stories involve gods and goddesses bestowing stones upon their temples for various reasons.

In Greek mythology, various stones and gems were believed to possess unique powers and attributes.

Emerald was believed to have healing and rejuvenating properties. Aristotle thought that owning emeralds could improve a person’s oratory skills, make them successful litigants, protect against epilepsy, and enable them to predict the future and reveal truths.

The Ancient Greeks considered diamonds to be tears of the gods, while Romans believed they were part of fallen stars. Diamonds were also thought to bring great strength to their wearers.

Mr Man leave greek mythology alone. nobody bothers about it anymore. Focus on the black stone.

honesttalk21:
The Black Stone’s significance comes from its association with Ibrahim and Isma’il and its role as a symbol of unity among Muslims from all over the world who come to perform Hajj or Umrah pilgrimages.

I repeat, provide evidence outside of islamic sources that Abraham had anything to do with the black stone.

honesttalk21:
Your Bible in Acts 19:35 states that the the city clerk quieted the crowd and said: “Fellow Ephesians, doesn’t all the world know that the city of Ephesus is the guardian of the temple of the great Artemis and of her image, which fell from heaven? How does Paul or any other differentiate the Gospel from this?

what significance is the Ephesus city clerk to christianity undecided

honesttalk21:
Your reference to modern scholars is because you fail to understand the deliberate acts to correct misunderstanding and misconceptions that are becoming the norm.

So muslims believed Aisha got married at 6 yrs for over one thousand years then suddenly decided to move the age forward because it became object of mockery.
A faith or religion that revolves around human's influence cannot be true.

honesttalk21:
You have made statements referring to the black stone granting forgiveness when it is it being part of the pilgrimage process which when done sincerely in worship of Allah grants forgiveness from Allah of sins

I think we should end it here. It's obvious u are embarrassed by the black stone.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Exactly Is The Difference Between These 2 religious Practices. by SIRTee15(op): 1:25am On Jun 06, 2024

AbuTwins:
Yeah a medium! The stone can't forgive sins on its own!

Yeah, we disbelieve in your own form of Jesus and God too!
Allah forgives sins in the ways stated in the Qur'an and Sunnah! Human blood or son of God's blood sacrifice is not included!

I didn't mention human blood, what are u talking about something I never raised.
My question is Can God forgive through blood as a medium? if the answer is No, then why did God tell the Israelites to shed animal blood for atonement of sin.
Think carefully b4 you answer, there's historical evidence outside the bible that proves the Jews were sacrificing animals for forgiveness of sin-The Temple in Jerusalem.
Who told the Israelites that they can slaughter innocent animals and use their blood for atonement of sin according to the mosaic law?

AbuTwins:
If they have sound oral traditions then why are you and your families not following them? I don't know why you argue with through your nose telling me what you really don't believe in.

are u ok? must I believe in something to study or research it. dont u quote bible verses up and down here? are u a Christian.
Most bible scholars are atheist, yet they sleep and drink with the bible everyday.
I studied african religion because I'm an African Christian. I need to know what evidence is there to show the religion my ancestors followed was wrong and the one I embraced is the correct one.
If I'm to say Christianity is the true faith, then I must produce universal evidence for it. It's not about shouting Islam is the true religion up and down just because Quran said so.
That's why I had to show u that african traditionalist prophets also wrote down their beliefs! Does that make it true?

AbuTwins:
As for the Qur'an not (koran as fools call it) all the stories therein are authentic!

Then start by telling me, when in history did Jews start calling Ezra the son of God. I will be waiting got goddot while u search for answer.

AbuTwins:
Offering blood sacrifice to idols like Ogun, etc is similar to vicarious atonement in Christianity! Blood is important for salvation! Not in Islam. That's why you are preaching Orunmila above! Alhamdulillah we don't offer any food to anyone! Allah is As-Samad! He does not eat nor drink unlike some God that drinks tea without permission! What is Idolatry is your vicarious atonement where God did kill his son as a lamb for to save others!

If blood is not important for salvation, then tell me why the God of Noah, God of Abraham and God of Moses told Israelites to build a temple, slaughter animals and then use the blood of the animals for cleansing of their sin.

Since Allah told Muhammed that he doesnt need blood to forgive sin, then tell me when and why did Allah change his mind and decided to abandon animal blood sacrifices as atonement for sin.

AbuTwins:
This is a lie! Blood is spilled on the deities! Food Sacrifices are placed at the road junctions for the gods! Why do you like telling brazen lies like this? We kill ram as Abraham did kill his. Why not kill your son too to commemorate what God did for Jesus?

Mr Man, learn difference btw occultism and religion. No be your Alfas and muslims clerics for Ilorin dey do charm for yahoo yahoo boys in southwest. where did they learn it occultic practice? is it from Quran?

AbuTwins:
After giving you the context of this verses you still came here to repeat the same thing again?
You are far from truth and reason! I am not surprised to see this. Many Holy spirit filled Christians are like this!

Qur'an 53:19-23
Have you then considered Al-Lat, and Al-'Uzza (two idols of the pagan Arabs)
And Manat (another idol of the pagan Arabs), the other third?
Is it for you the males and for Him the females?
That indeed is a division most unfair!
They are but names which you have named, you and your fathers, for which Allah has sent down no authority. They follow but a guess and that which they themselves desire, whereas there has surely come to them the Guidance from their Lord!

So are u saying your early Islamic scholars and biographers of Muhammed like Al Tabari, Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Hisham were lying about the satanic verses. What would they gain by fabricating such stories against Muhammed?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus And Black Magic! by SIRTee15: 10:49pm On Jun 05, 2024

MindHacker9009:
Why are the Jesus fanatics like MaxInDHouse, SIRTee15, Dtruthspeaker (alias Dliepeaker) and others avoiding this thread. Is there something you like to keep hidden about the Magi.
Who is a Magi?

AbuTwin is my boy. I'm using him to sip tea during my leisure hours.
Check my thread on black stone- AbuTwin has admitted God can use mediums to forgive sin including the black stone.
The guy is a pagan, he just doesn't know it but I will make sure I open that his blind eyes.
If that's the guy U now want to follow, I wish U good luck.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Exactly Is The Difference Between These 2 religious Practices. by SIRTee15(op): 1:37pm On Jun 03, 2024

AbuTwins:
That's your own false opinion!
Islam is a strict monotheistic religion that is based on the obedience of Allah though the Prophets He sent from time immemorial!

Christianity Etc › Re: What Exactly Is The Difference Between These 2 religious Practices. by SIRTee15(op): 11:36am On Jun 03, 2024*

jendoslim:
Interesting topic, I must admit

@Abutwins and honesttalk21

Why can't the two of you agree and take a side of argument?

One believes the stone is a medium by which God forgives sin, the other is covertly disagreeing. Funny

Take a side please.

While at it, kindly answer this, if a stone can serve as a medium, what makes you think other things God created can't serve as a medium?

If they can or can't, kindly provide a logical argument why they can or can't.

The problem is honesttalk is among the new modern muslims who are redefining Islam towards a strict monotheism concept that's not found in their islamic literature.

AbuTwin on the other hand is a conservative Muslim who adhere strictly to what's written in islamic literature even if it makes no sense.

Honesttalk knows if any spiritual significance is attached to the black stone, Islam becomes idolatry. Its pure and simple.
That's why he's fighting tooth and nail to discredit his own sources.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Exactly Is The Difference Between These 2 religious Practices. by SIRTee15(op): 11:28am On Jun 03, 2024

drlateef:
How can we not label him as ignorant? Has any muslim ever told him, or did he read it anywhere in Quran that we worship a stone? He is just a trouble maker.

Pls read the whole thread and stop your whataboutism.
This topic is about venerating a stone which U do. U guys venerate the black stone when U kiss it just like traditionalist venerate their sacred stones when they pour libation in it.
Neither traditionalists or Muslims worship the stones BUT YOU BOTH VENERATE IT.

And U Muslims attach spiritual significance to the black stone.
That's what we dissecting here.

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Romance › Re: The Bride Price And Virginity by SIRTee15: 9:57am On Jun 03, 2024

I don't have a problem with bride price but should only be for virgins.

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Crime › Re: Canadian Serial Killer Robert Pickton Dies Aged 74 After Prison Assault by SIRTee15: 6:29pm On Jun 02, 2024

maasoap:
You and him can do joint explanation now. Dumbasses

Responding to a fool is a waste of my precious time.
Proverbs 26. 4

Politics › Re: Return To Regionalism: We Won’t Be Part Of Western Region – Lagos Indigenes by SIRTee15: 6:24pm On Jun 02, 2024

koning:
Keep dreaming. Not one cup of sand from what is Lagos state today will be taken away if Lagos gets it's special status.

You are ignorant of the real people that own and control Lagos. Tinubu is not even one of them. Most are not Yoruba people or even Nigerians by origin.

Yinmu...let the time come. Na national gazzette go settle am. Na then U go know say Nigeria get good record keeping.
We are taking back all the industrial estates built by Awolowo in Ikeja, ikorodu and ilupeju.

Politics › Re: Return To Regionalism: We Won’t Be Part Of Western Region – Lagos Indigenes by SIRTee15: 6:22pm On Jun 02, 2024

Benzigler:
You are not taking anything, south west region will end in Ogun state, get that into your thick head

He go shock U. They don't want to be part of western region, then they have to give up the property of western region with them.

Politics › Re: Return To Regionalism: We Won’t Be Part Of Western Region – Lagos Indigenes by SIRTee15: 3:58pm On Jun 02, 2024

Benzigler:
I don't think people of Lagos will bother if you take those cities back to south west region

We are taking back lekki, apapa, ikorodu, Ikeja, mainland Lagos. I wonder what's left in Lagos.

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Christianity Etc › Re: America Will Accept Islam And Become A Muslim Nation by SIRTee15: 12:29pm On Jun 02, 2024

MrPresident1:
Islam will seat behind the resolute desk in the oval office in the white house.

Alfa Yusuf

Islam is Peace and Safety.

You mean Islam that bombed world trade centers n Muslims all over the world jubilated.

Crime › Re: Canadian Serial Killer Robert Pickton Dies Aged 74 After Prison Assault by SIRTee15: 9:38pm On Jun 01, 2024

Ashawoman82:
even if he turns to reverend father before his death, doee this kind of man deserve to smell heaven at all?

If a serial murderer gives his life to Christ, the first thing he's to do is to make restitution.

The bible says whosoever cover up his sin will not prosper.

He should go to police station possibly with a lawyer and report himself. He should assist the police in their investigation to unravel the mystery of every murder he had committed.

Atonement by the blood of Jesus is to free you from sins NOT for you to cover up your sins.

Crime › Re: Canadian Serial Killer Robert Pickton Dies Aged 74 After Prison Assault by SIRTee15: 7:07pm On Jun 01, 2024

StreetFight:
That you second statement is nonsensical nonsense. If all sins are forgiven, then why is there going to be judgement again? These lies that you Churchgoers tell yourselves is nauseating

I hope U know God gave humanity freewill. U choose to seek forgiveness or continue in your sin. Its your choice.

God is not only a just God but he's also fair. Why would he drag U to heaven when U don't want to go there...

Isn't that what happened with the first man when God gave him the woman.

Crime › Re: Canadian Serial Killer Robert Pickton Dies Aged 74 After Prison Assault by SIRTee15: 6:51pm On Jun 01, 2024

maasoap:
Which means that you are confused

God is a loving as well as just God at the same time.

As many he loves he chastise heb 12.6

Make Una dey go bible study, Una no gree.
Instead U will be forming woke bible expert online exposing your ignorance.

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