₦airaland Forum

kosovo:
To say that IBB alone is the major problem of Nigeria, is to say that you have been living under the rocks, Every political leader in Nigeria have constituted a fraction to the Nigeria problems, giving the processus of the Nigeria Nation it'd be bad to designate all the problems associated with underdevelopment on our leaders alone . . . .

Tribalism alone can subruo subruti subrutum our Nation, it is the greatest  cause of our numerous problems, if we want to nfligo inflixi inflictum good governance, we must obliterate tribalism. Tribalism is  all that has become of Nigeria and  all that will become of Nigeria . . .

When an Igbo man can contest and win an election in kano state, when a Bini man can contest and win an election in Lagos state, only then can we be serious and/or gravis about Developing the Nation. . . Go down with history on Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger of California, Talking that as a case study on the Nigeria's tribalistic and ethnocentric discombobulation. . . you will Find out that if we can completely  pulverize tribalism and all the issues associated with it, Our leaders wouldn't need much work to develop the nation in a matter of rapidity. . .

How sad that people who are supposed to be "enlightened" can come up with all this condescending jargon. What did IBB do to address all these issues he now seems able to see and analyse? Ability to "analyse issues" or give "politcal commentary" is not a measure of leadership potential. Just because I can write a verbose essay on why your shirt is dirty and the possible implications of such does not mean I know how to wash clothes or make your shirt clean. The tendency to fall for all the "insightful comments" and grammar the general spews these days (whether true or not) is very laughable indeed. Why haven't you asked the general what he did to address these problems he now sees when he was in power, or was he conveniently oblivious to them then? Are these new problems? Spare us your patronising lectures, they are embarassing.

mikeansy:
I think cicero is right. We are wallowing in ignorance and arrogance over nothing. Celebrating our culture in world head of states events as if no one else in the world has a culture even though there is no infrastructure or good life to support our arrogance.

I think we need to get serious. If we were a serious country may be our gowns would have been a symbol of achievements, but right now those gowns are a symbol of our unique corruption and lacklustre attitude to everything.

Some of them even look like Pyjamas and betrays a leader who would rather be sleeping than leading.

I would reply with the same response since I think it is completely relevant to the shaky justifications you are attempting to use.

Sky Blue:
Are you listening to yourself? What on earth has wearing 'danciki' got to do with corruption and good governance? WOW!

mikeansy:
I think previous commentaries recognised that Yar'adua and OBJ wear also wearing sectional cultural gowns and they are part of the criticisms.

And some people would probably criticise the leaders if they wore a suit; imagine some market women trying to relate to such a figure as opposed to someone dressed in something they are more familiar with. So why make this an issue?

cicero:
Common Bro, how much of our culture still remains in the way we do business and interactions with the outside world? wearing some gown in the midst of Presidents who are mostly smartly dressed and looking business like is not cool with me, and I am sure I am speaking for quite a number of Nigerians.

I'd rather we dress like oyibo and be known for honesty and integrity than wear 'danciki' while squandering our children's future through corruption.

GEJ will look smarter and more handsome in say a well tailored deep blue suit on white shirt with sky blue tie, and black shoes.

Are you listening to yourself? What on earth has wearing 'danciki' got to do with corruption and good governance? WOW!

mikeansy:
cicero check out how Presidential he would have looked.

It is truly a missed opportunity. And by the way it is not politically smart for a President of ethnic minority origin to be promoting the very tribal card that has made politics of Nigeria a game only a certain people can win.

Why am I not surprised that you posted a picture of him in a tailor made suit as a good representation for suits? Instead of telling the man to go and get better fitting traditional regalia that would accent his body type more. People wearing different clothes is not a tribal card, the fact that it is to you does not mean everybody sees it that way so enough with that poor excuse. Nigeria has a budding fashion industry geared towards as you put it "cultural attire". The indian prime minister did not wear a suit. It is just a shame that you have attached your sense of national identity and looking smart to wearing a suit. When OBJ wore his "cultural attire" he looked smart. I just saw a video of Nuhu Ribadu giving a speech in a traditional hausa attire and thought he looked very smart (even more so than many in the room who wore suits). That you may think wearing a suit is the only way of looking smart and presentable does not mean everyone shares such a view. That you attach tribal sentiment to Jonathan wearing what he wore does not mean everybody does.

mikeansy:
But he is the President of Nigeria not his ethnic group

the same goes for Yar'adua and all others.

No one cultural attire represents all Nigerians, so the most general attire for all is suits.

It will reflect unity more, than a head of state projecting the culture of just one ethnic group.

By the way for your info, Suits are nobody's culture. Jacob Zuma was in suits at that conference, I don't suppose the zulus dont have a culture.

We make noise about unity of Nigeria everyday and spend the rest of our lives celebrating our disunity. The head of state should represent all Nigerians in symbol and gestures not just one ethnic group.

Genuinely no offense intended, but the statement in bold is trite (my opinion). Unity is not about all being the same, it is more about sharing common goals and allowing individual strengths to flourish (as opposed to stifling them) in pursuit of such goals, than it is about what the person is wearing. I mean, are people really that insecure?

The fact that no one cultural attire represents all Nigerians does not mean we completely abandon what many can relate to as been Nigerian/African dressing, just to maintain this "unity". If the unity of the country depended on such trivial stuff like this then perhaps all hope really is lost. While no one cultural attire represents Nigeria as a whole, his dressing style has become synonymous with his ethnic group, a people that are part of Nigeria and hence Nigerians. Suits are a typically western attire so please enough with your attempts to reconcile your ideals with the reality. I mean, what is the average temperature in Nigeria to begin with? If Jonathan decides to wear suits of his own accord, then fine; if he decides to go for something more comfortable and more intune with his culture (which by extension is Nigerian culture since the Ijaws are Nigerians), then so be it. Making such trivialities issues and backing them up with disingenious arguements is just not necessary. When he wears a kimono to a gathering of world leaders, then you can make noise.

mikeansy:
Sky Blue

Do you know the history behind Bolar Harts and most other Nigerian attires?

Bolar Hats are not Nigerian by origin, they were some of the items given by white men to warrant chiefs in other to aqcuire slaves from Nigeria.
So when folks talk about what is Nigerian and what is'nt try to understand the history behind these things.

This story is also same for so many other attires won in Nigeria.

The textile industry did not start from Nigeria. If we truly want to reflect the cultures of our forefathers we will be dressing in leaves.

And suits were inherent from the start in "American society"? There is no need for a history lesson because such is not relevant here, what is relevant though is that for whatever history or reason, the people from his ethnic group see that as there official attire. So enough please, or do you want to go there and define what they should or should not wear? A tad arrogant, no?

P.S. I don't know the "we" you refer to in your last statement considering Nigeria contains over 200 different ethnic groups, many with different history, traditions, cultures, etc. So when did Europeans start wearing suits? Or was it just there from the start with them? Did the anglo saxons, or romans, or greek wear suit?

cicero:
Is the hat on his head Nigerian? how many materials and equipment in aso rock are of Nigerian origin? the place was built by foreigners.

The man seems smart, let him look smart too.

What part of the country is Jonathan from? Have you seen the way they dress? If you are not familiar with what is seen as "official regalia" (for lack of a better phrase) in his ethnic group then why not just go do some basic research? Wether or not he looks smart is subjective, I for one think he does and better yet, he is wearing something that showcases some Nigerian culture.

With regards to the part in bold, what on earth has that got to do with anything? How many materials in aso rock are of Nigerian origin? I guess the sand and cement used to build the place was imported. How amusing.

saemoenl:
BST 20pm is 7pm Nigerian Time.

Well done GJ, We know u re watering the land for cool landing come 2011, anyany, nothing bad for you to contest but try as much as possible to make a different.

8pm Nigerian Time.

bjcisse:
50% of Nigerians never participated or vote in most presidential election ever conducted. The way this man is going,  People will come out and vote for him,  then i want to see how the rigging can take place.

The man has being emphasizing on electricity, if he eventually get it fixed, NO NEED FOR CONDUCTING PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION COME 2011 BECAUSE IT WILL BE A WASTED OF FUNDS AS NIGERIA WILL ENSURE THIS MAN RULE FOR THE NEXT 8 YEARS

Why don't we wait till the man actually delivers and we see a marked improvement? I am not interested in gist no matter how intelligent they may sound, all I want to see is results.

cicero:
I am beginning to like this guy.
I only wish he could stop wearing them native clothes, my I hate those things.
Man should dress smartly like the guy in the background of the photo with Amanpour.

Why, because he is president of America or England? Gosh!

Shock:
Am i missing something here?  The fact that it is not uncommon does not even make it right to begin with, such folks are entitled to fight for their human rights!

And in most cases, there is always a court approval backing such things up, in this case it might be interpreted as an abuse of power.

The acting President tells a private citizen "don't travel unless you get permission from me"!. . . for what? the Acting President isn't his daddy!

If you will agree with me, most post here is being subjective based on people's personal judgement that the dude is corrupt, and yet not even a single charge has been filed against him.

Don't get me wrong, i also share such opinions about him being corrupt, but we cannot neglect the fact that such restriction of movement can be categorically described as an abuse of his personal rights.


If you want to restrict someone's movement, then do so using appropriate legal channels, what if its not Aondoakaa, let's say it is someone like Wole Soyinka or even you, would you still hold on to this theory?

We are not in a military regime, this is democratic government!

You are right, we are in a democracy and getting a court order is the ideal, however, considering the notorious wait times Nigerian courts are known for I will say this is a more pragmatic approach to take. The guy is not being starved to death, he is just being stopped from leaving the country because he is considered a flight risk.

aisha2:
This is not a prayer and Amen Issue, this is not a talking on Nairaland Issue. FCT Elections were free and credible and PDP swept the polls, why? because a lot of were busy analysing on Facebook and Nairaland on election day. Stay here and make noise, dont go and get your permananet voters card, IBBs supporters are ready, and please dont give the tired excuse that your vote wont count, from nanambra and FCT INEC I have seen that INEC can indeed conduct elections freely and fairly

On point. Enough of all talk and no action. Everyone who can should go and vote and make sure your vote is counted. Excuses like "what difference would it make", are cowardly, and those who didn't even bother to vote when they had the opportunity to should really not complain if even Abacha's son contests and wins.

Shock:
I'm not a fan of Aondoakaa, far from it that i be associated with him, however, i believe its a little out of place that he be denied his freedom of movement, especially if he hasn't be charged for breaking the laws of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

The dude has been sacked, the government has no right to restrict his movement, it is against everything democracy stands for.

On what basis or jurisdiction is the Acting President Jonathan restricting the movement of a fellow citizen?

[size=13pt]THE LAW SAYS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY[/size]

from all indications, folks here are merely talking based on sentiments and personal opinions on who is good and who is not.

If he has charges to answer, let the Police arrest and charge him to court which in turn has the jurisdiction to restrict his movement, Jonathan is not a court

It is not uncommon for the movement of people under investigation to be restricted, in fact, it is almost standard practise especially when there is significant flight risk. No need for all of us to blow uneccessary grammar here, if a man under investigation is restricted from leaving the country and such is seen as draconian, what about those in the US who are not even allowed to leave a city due to pending investigations?

KnowAll:
During his Military stint he was working alone and on his own impulse as an absolute leader. [size=15pt]He would now learn to work not only with the legislatures, but with the judiciary.[/size] A Military regime is an illegitimate regime, since our country is not a country that punishes mutineers then it is fair to forgive these unruly soldiers for their mis-deeds and open a new chapter after all we have allowed one to rule us in the past in no other person than OBJ so why deny IBB his constitutional right.

You have the right not to vote for him, that is a right no one can deny u, unfortunately your type on the internet with so much venom towards IBB  only represents 3% of the Nigerian population, I guess u have a hell lot of work to do to undo IBB's stauning start.

And you know this how? Save your speculations and experimenting for your family affairs please, your statements are laughable.

KnowAll:
Apologies, but do you ever read what you type before posting? What on earth is assuring about a man people can't even trust (he is called Maradona for a reason). It is not all about using "big words", it helps if you use them correctly.

I dont get u, what is your point . 

And I don't get your point either. Don't use words like "assurance" as a means of hedging a defence for IBB because you think such words could paint him in a more flattering light. What is assurance and how can it work for IBB when people can't even trust him of have faith in anything approaching consistency as far as he is concerned? I am still yet to figure out the so called "genius" of this man that people harp on about. A genius that destroyed the Nigerian economy and insitutionalised corruption, yes, very clever and assuring indeed. The only shame is that I won't put it past people to suddenly become amnesiac and buy into such trite about IBB being "the solution".

KnowAll:
Assurance- You can see stakholders from every geo-political zone falling all over each other in order to be seen to be the one that crowned his royal highness the prince from the hills of Minna. Even Diaporas are organising road-shows in suppot of IBB. [size=16pt]That is what is called assurance. [/size]

OBJ ruled Nigeria for 8 good years assuringly that does not mean atrocities where not commited or how else do we explain the $16 billion dollars spent on the power sector but nothing to show for. But the advantages of his regime outways the dis-advantages, that is assurance.


Stability - With Assurance firmly on the ground comes stability and growth. It does not mean corruption would not happen. Jerry Rawlings was actually the first civilian President of Ghana his role was that of assurance and stabilty. He ruled for 2 terms of 4 years each. What he left behind was not what u see today but the structures he establish are what has made growth possible today in Ghana. Also one can be rest assured that a military coup would be something alien and distance to the Nigeria psche with IBB at the helms of affair. Our democracy is still young and still needs tutelage from experience hands not with what we all woke up to witness when a comatossed Yaradua was brought into town.

@Apologies, but do you ever read what you type before posting? What on earth is assuring about a man people can't even trust (he is called Maradona for a reason). It is not all about using "big words", it helps if you use them correctly.

shotster50:
@ Chidi, you call it selective justice. You and I know that as far as Nigeria is concerned, any form of justice is better than non at all. It is going to be selective until all the guilty politicians are selected.

"Selective justice" ke. Abeg. I cannot wait till "selective justice" visits my own former state gorvenor, oh what a beautiful day that would be. At least with such a move, the next guys will think twice and it could possibly mean corruption reduces in the state, so guess what happens? The people actually get to see there money spent on them. But of course trust people to twist reasoning and stand it on its head to make anything seem like a bad thing. If it is Ibori's turn to roast then let him roast, after all if he ha dnothing to answer for then there would be no need to sweat. Trust some people on the forum though to vehemently defend armed robbers and then next week come and give a detailed and condescending lecture on "the problem with Nigeria", or some pretensious lament on the state of corruption in Nigeria.

chidichris:
@sky blue,
are u from delta? if not, how come u like delta more than your state? why are we not calling for the heads of our various former state govs? why is everyone after ibori? did his looting go beyond delta state? what we display here is equally the crime called selective justice. we all have our former govs and we overlook them for ibori.
let each and everyone of us here bring his former govs so that we kill them all at once.
if anyone considers his gov worthy to live, let that one tell us here why he thinks so.
they have all sinned and deserve to die but if for any reason, any of them is considered for a ministerial appointment like my former state gov achike udenwa, let all of them be made ministers.
if the war on corruption in nigeria is for a few opositions, i then support the idea of using even weapon of mass distruction on the so called efcc.

No need to project your own dispositions on me. I am not you. Unlike you, the fact that someone has amassed so much wealth through corruption is enough for me. If EFCC seem to think they can nail Ibori now, then so be it. With the way some defend him you would think the guy is innoccent, it really is disgusting. The fact that you can be protective of your state governor even if he diverted funds meant for development does not mean everyone is like you, so please if you stand for corruption then that is your business. Is Ibori guilty or not? If he is guilty then what on earth is the issue here? Honestly I have to ask again, have you no concept of shame? What is all this 'he stole but some stole more' arguement? How can people with such warped reasining ever condemn corruption again?

igbo boy:
Abeg make una free my governor, obasanjo neva go jail, IBB neva go jail, danjuma, iwu etc and you guys are hounding on Ibori as if na only him don chop money, Ibori aint no saint but i believe we should start with the top then we can get rid of all these useless leaders

Are you for real? Sorry if you take offence, but have you no concept of shame? Did he steal money or not? Classic example of bad followership. A man came to your house and robbed you and despoiled your children, and all you can say is, 'let him go till we catch worse armed robbers'. Clap for yourself.

chidichris:
whatsoever is making ppl to rejoice here is making me to weep.
what a shame? nigeria and nigerians leaving the object for shadow.
are we deltans or are we nigerians? what ever happened to all the federal contracts awarded by obasanjo and all the funds spent on federal projects?
how come ibori is the problem of every nigerian? what will the death of ibori bring to us as nigerians? delta is just a state out of 36 plus abuja.
where are the other govs? why are we not asking why the other former govs are ministers and ambassadores, while others are facing trials.
i am from imo state and achike udenwa was my gov under obasanjo and was later made a minister under yar adua. i am waiting for someone who will tell me why ibori is facing trial while udenwa is facing promotion apart from udenwa being the first gov to sign the third term agenda.
if i am in ibori's shoes, i will use my last resources in fighting this personal wars. i will introduce granade and bombs and i will kill as many as possible before giving up.
enough of this one man show in a country of over 150 million ppl.
tell me any of those former govs that was loyal to obasanjo that is facing this same trial with ibori today.
the ribadu who judge others refused to face the law when he was invited so who is fooling who?
i must say this here, ibori is a fool.
if i were him, by now 100 men will be down because i know he has what it takes to kill.
why will u choose among the govs who faces trial and who gets appointments?
ibori and other victims of this otah beats shld get themselves together and put up a lasting war and by so doing, the much awaited liberation from the claws of this deadly and devilish man might come sooner than we expect.

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I don't care the order, as long as they are prosecuted and dispathced to kiri kiri with expediency when found wanting. If it is Ibori's turn first up, then so be it. Abi dem no chop people money?

Beaf:
The man has vanished isn't it? I hope EFCC have got Interpol on his tail.

As long as he is brought to book. I seem to have this fantasy of spotting Ibori at some international airport after he has been declared wanted, and being the one to make the phone call to the authorities after which I stand and watch as over zealous pot bellied Nigerian police officers drop in from the glass roof and rough him up naija style before taking him into custody. I can't wait till it is Peter Odili's turn too.

How sweet it would be when Ibori is brought to justice.

Sun of god:
If he waits too long these 'bad' people will derail his plans - he needs to act fast.

Before the opportunity to do thr right thing passes,

@That has always been my qualms in the whole matter; I don't know if he realises he has about a year and not four. This really is a golden opportunity to get things right and it would be a real shame if such is compromised because of something as silly as eyeing 2011 elections. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush, do something with what you have right now.

Sun of god:
Jonathan needs to get firm!

These jestures may be taken as a sign of weakness.

Unfortunately that how I'm starting to feel about Jonathan. He's loosing the battle with the Cabal and the Media.

He needs to get the right people on side and then come down hard on Yar'Adua/the Cabal/Shady Politicians.

I think his wife's name may be an influencing factor - How much Patience does Jonathan have?

LOOOL. I like that 

On a more serious note, Goodluck is acting president not Patience, so no need to even look at that side of things. As far as I am concerned the buck stops with him, if he allows himself to be influenced by Joy or Peace sef that one is his business.

@poster, your concept of wealth might need to be re-examined. What is the cost of living in Ghana? Who is richer in your estimation, a homeless man with $50,000 in cash or a man with a nice big house, power supply, water, security, and $10,000 cash in hand? The ammount of money Nigerians spend on fuel alone for their generators should be enough to change the picture. It is not all about quoting figures you pick up from here and there, it is about being able to analyse the data to obtain a coherent picture.

Beaf:
Jonathan has displayed very admirable leadership qualities in the face of immense difficulties. If he runs in 2011, I'll be ready to pitch in more than just my vote.

WOW. And this persuasion was sucessful without Johnathan achieving anything concrete yet, or you seeing what other possible candidates there are? ?

marvix:
Personally I'm not atached sentimentaly to Yaradua, but I just believe dat his presence or absence is not d reason 4 our woes as a nation, neither is his remainin a president on a sickbed or his sack because of his sicknes goin 2 solve our problems as a nation.

Again with the distracting remarks. Could you possibly point to a single post in this thread where anyone has claimed that Yar Adua is the reason for the woes of Nigeria? If you can't then why the unecessary statement especially when it fails to address the issue? Yar Adua may not be the cause for all the woes of the nation, but he is definately a symptom. Do we as a result of acknowledging that Yar Adua is not the sole reason for the nation's current woes become content with the nonsense that continues to go on and ascribe the position of sainthood to Yar Adua even when he didn't really achieve anything when he was around and allowed a corrupt and anti democratic element (along many many other things) like Aondoaka hold on to power and relevance? How quick we are to completely forget the seven point agenda simply because the man has fallen sick. I do not wish him harm and personally lean towards indifference, I am pro good governance and development; if you want to make such a position synonymous with being unsympathetic and inhumane then that is your business. We might as well say, the police are not the sole reason for all the woes in Nigeria and as a result let the corruption and abuse of human rights continue. Why don't we also say power is not the sole reason for the problems in Nigeria and ignore investing in it?

marvix:
@skyblue suit urself, u can say wateva u wish 2 say I gues dats y u hav your freedom of speech, so if u lik say dat u were part of Yaraduas funeral if dat makes u happy.

Not surprised you would use that as an example, you seem to attach unecessary sentiment to the situation, and it appears in your own estimation anyone who is pushing for good governance is an enemy of Yar Adua and wishes him dead. Yar Adua is not Nigeria and many die everyday from the result of an inept government, don't those deserve sympathy too or are we just saving self righteousness for the rich and powerful?

marvix:
@skyblue, dat isue is not in contention but if u want proof I recant and beg u to wait 4 events as they unfold. The crux of my arguement is Jonathan does not require any oficial leta 2 act in d absence of d president and dat includes if d president was to excuse himself in d middle of a meetin. Sometimes I just find it borin xplainin on dis forum mayb we can meet on a TV prog where I cld completely educate u on how d constitution is suposed 2 work

No need to say more than the part in bold because, apologies but I would probably see it as ranting and avoiding the issue. You cannot back up your claim, so no need to speak of the issue in that 'matter of fact' way, especially when you are making the claims publicly. I could as well come out and confess that I saw Yar Adua yesterday on the street, he was playing spoons as a musical instrument for money.

I honestly don't believe quota system is the way forward and is something we should be trying to deconstruct with regards to the Nigerian situation. It would have made more sense to sign into law a bill which actually begins to hold oil companies accountable for environmental degradation and oil spills, this just seems like a very very cowardly way out and once again ignoring the problem. Wasn't the gas flaring deadline about two or even three years ago? Don't oil companies still flare gas that can be used to actually generate power? Wasn't a major excuse for not being able to reach the 6000mW goal for power generation given as unavailability of gas? Johnathan Goodluck what on earth are you doing? Whatever happened to electoral reforms?

marvix:
@first wen I saw dis post I didn't want 2 comment, but now afta readin all comments I feel obliged 2 coment.
Ndu chucks is right we need 2 sympathise with d man nd b happy dat d man we all prayed 4 is gettin beta. Let me ask if u were just recoverin frm a deadly ailment would your first port of call b your ofc, most especialy wen u hav a capable asistant who has taken charge. The president is gettin beta but not fit for d ofc yet, and 4 evrybody callin 4 his sack by claimin him incapacitated, the truth is dat no doc will declare a man who is sic lik Yaradua as permanently incapacitated. Permanently incapacitated means dat d man can neva regain his health to take on his duties, but the President is only temporary incapacitated and temporary cld mean as long as 3yrs but he is xpected to recover, den @ dat point d decision 2 resign rests squarely on him, we can force a man to throw in the towel.



I'm a staunch suporta of empowerin Jonathan as Ag President nd if by 2011 Yaradua can't continue Jonathan shld be allowed to run 4 president, but like I hav always said Jonathan didn't require a leta frm Yaradua for him 2 act neither did he nid d NASS 2 empower him, by virtue of our constitution Jonathan bcoms d Ag President d moment Yaradua is out of town. And actin president is not a new title higher dan d vice president, I giv an xample if d president was leavin town 4 a wk he cld ask Jonathan to act on his behalf nd cld well spel out wat Jonathan can do while he is away lik chair d FEC 4 me attend 2 som visitors 4 me, but postpone d security meetin till I com back, I will personally attend to d council of state meetin, so in dis case wen d FEC comes up the VP takes charge but wen d security meetin comes up the VP postpones and wen d council of state comes up nd d man is not back d VP also postpones.
Now comin 2 d issue of Nov 23 d president was rushed out nd Jonathan said d president by word of mouth asked him 2 take charge and had directed his private second to forward 2 him all necesary docs dat needed his attention, but unfortunately some ministas didn't want Jonathan 2 act by just word of mouth and dis is because it is Nigeria, and mayb democracy dats y som ministas felt they were stronga dan d VP nd Jonathan decided not to overheat d polity but instead played along so dat evryone wld kno who indeed has d powers, that was y he refused to do d ministas bidding because som pple wanted 2 tell d VP wat he shld do in d name of d president. We then had 2 go d whole hog got a NASS declaration and dat was y Jonathan had 2 move against some of d ministas.



If Yaradua gets well and returns to ofc Jonathan has nothin 2 fear and Yaradua will not find any wrongdoin wit Jonathan, rememba wen Yaradua left d country some time ago and it was rumored dat he was dead and Kingibe d SGF @ dat tyme felt he was more relevant dan d VP and took unilateral decision and didnot defer 2 d VP and already proclaimin dat he wld b d one to finish Yaraduas tenure among other things he did then, when d president returned Kingibe got his sack even d VP wasn't there wen it hapened, d first oficial event Yaradua went was where he introduced Yayale den defence minista as d SGF, his aides felt he was still sick dat was wen he demanded d resignation of Kingibe. Yaradua may not agree with all d new ministas but as president he can still reshufle d cabinet, drop som ministas and reappoint som odas or go d whole hog nd dissolve d cabinet even if its just a wk he has left.

I still honestly pray he gets well soon return to his ofc and b strong enuf to lead and go ahead 2 contest 2011 for a 2nd term and then Jonathan can continue as President frm 2015 but if Yaradua isn't strong enuf to rule let Jonathan continue wit their 7point agenda.     I rest my case.

Just genuinely wonder whether you read what you type. With regards to the parts in bold; is Yar Adua "out of town"? You say Yar Adua handed over to Johnathan verbally? Please give us some proof, show a news report/article from different sources or stop feeding people more trite.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=423855.msg5823167#msg5823167 date=1270302571]Sky Blue, You keep referring to the post wherin you asked for Yar'Adua's signature to confirm that he recognized GJ as acting President. This is disingenuous of you since we all know that a signed statement was not issued. Yar'Adua did not need to give GJ presidential powers anyway. None of these should prevent you from showing some compassion.[/quote]Oh please, really, don't start with this again. You passionately claimed that Yar Adua had handed powers over to Johnathan, I asked you to prove it and you couldn't! The fact that you were so quick to take such a position without any evidence might say more about you than you think. Since when did demanding for an end to all the lies, deceit, and cover up that seems to be going on become equal to wishing Yar Adua dead? Since when did preferring what appears to be a more capable leader (when compared to Yar Adua) leading the country become equal to wishing Yar Adua ill? Since when did Nigerians yearning for good governance become tantamount to hating Yar Adua as a person? So we should all close our eyes to the fact that the nation has been retrogressing since Yar Adua was in power simply because he is sick? The fact that you seem to believe the Imams actually saw the president might not be so shocking after all, considering you were quick to believe Yar Adua handed power over to Johnathan, without even seeing any evidence (an perhaps worse, without even asking for any)