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 Politics › Re: Chief Imam: I Saw Yar’adua Last Night by SkyBlue1: 1:28pm On Apr 03, 2010 |
simplychic:Do you actually take time to read what you write before you click "Reply"? Yar Adua's enemies? What enemies? So demanding good governance and wanting power to remain in the hands of more progressive people is tantamount to being an enemy of Yar Adua? |
| Politics › Re: Chief Imam: I Saw Yar’adua Last Night by SkyBlue1: 12:21pm On Apr 03, 2010 |
ovii:No need to kill yourself over @ndu chucks commentary. He was thesame person who vehemently claimed that Yar Adua had given Johnathan the power to act in his place. However, when asked to back up his claims with proof, he couldn't, (only being able to paste links to news sites he had not read which claimed no such thing). It is understandable that people see all this as one big joke, considering the ride the people have been taken for all this while. Soon everybody except anybody would claim to have seen Yar Adua, the goats in the compound, the gateman, etc. If you want people to begin to take things serious, then enough with all the lies, deceit and cover up. Till then, please spare us the self righteous commentary, presidency is not by force. |
| Business › Re: Bank Accounts And People You Don't Wanna Send Money To - Part 1 by SkyBlue1: 12:45am On Apr 03, 2010 |
Anybody can come up with a list of names. I would advide the poster to be careful of posting people's personal details just because you saw it on some website. Your name could just have easily appeared there too considering identity theft is booming in the U.K. |
| Business › Re: Bank Accounts And People You Don't Wanna Send Money To - Part 1 by SkyBlue1: 6:33pm On Mar 27, 2010 |
Be careful with the way you post personal information like this. Fraud attempts can be made from a person's account by something as simple as a stolen debit card which anyone is prone to. Painting a blank picture based on account names is not very smart. |
| Politics › Re: Yar’adua To Attend Jumat Service by SkyBlue1: 2:46pm On Mar 26, 2010 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=419801.msg5772610#msg5772610 date=1269611073]LOL, abeg make we hear word. Here was your question to me I showed you the released statements, you now want a signed statement! Stop moving the goal post, I've answered your question.[/quote]My question. With regards to the part in bold, show us just ONE, I repeat, just ONE of these so called "statements" released [size=15pt]by Yar Adua[/size], or please just stop embarassing yourself."Please, again, stop embarassing yourself. You have no facts to build your arguements on, so stop claiming to know otherwise when in reality, you do not. |
| Politics › Re: Yar’adua To Attend Jumat Service by SkyBlue1: 2:43pm On Mar 26, 2010 |
wales:LOOOOOOOOL. O gosh. Too too too funny. Soon someone would say they saw him at their neighbours' house giving lectures on "the science of tuwo making", with such award winning quotes like "stir soffry soffry". |
| Politics › Re: Yar’adua To Attend Jumat Service by SkyBlue1: 2:34pm On Mar 26, 2010 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=419801.msg5772364#msg5772364 date=1269609326]Stop exhibiting ignorance here. Take a look at these, olodo: http://www.news.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14836:yaradua-jonathan-is-acting-president&catid=46:lead-stories&Itemid=140 and this one http://newsdiaryonline.com/Jonathan%20_recognition.htm The service will be over in a few minutes, Yar'Adua will not be attending this one. You all can go and rest now.[/quote]excerpt from your posted sources http://newsdiaryonline.com/Jonathan%20_recognition.htm In what appears like a u-turn from the position a day earlier,[b]President Umaru Musa YarAdua's spokesman has confirmed that Mr Goodluck Jonathan [/b]remains the Acting President and Commander in Chief of the armed Forces http://www.news.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14836:yaradua-jonathan-is-acting-president&catid=46:lead-stories&Itemid=140 Twenty four hours after President Umaru Yar’adua’s statement referring to Dr. Goodluck Jonathan as “Vice President” unleashed a storm of controversy, the ailing President reversed course yesterday and recognized his deputy as the Acting President and Commander-in-Chief. Yar’adua’s statement on Tuesday was widely interpreted to mean he did not recognize the National Assembly’s resolution earlier this month which recognized Jonathan as Acting President even though Yar’adua never transmitted to the Assembly’s leaders a medical vacation letter, as required by Section 145 of the Constitution. The sharp about-turn was conveyed by Yar’adua’s Special Adviser on Media and Publicity Olusegun Adeniyi, who spoke to reporters at the Presidential Villa, Abuja. He said Tuesday’s statement, in which Yar’adua said “the Vice President should continue to oversee the affairs” of government until the president fully recovers from his ailment, “was very clear and that the Acting President would continue to run the affairs of the nation as the Commander-in-Chief until the president is fit to takeover.” Adeniyi added, “That remains the situation as far as I am concerned, and as far as the president is concerned.” ANALYSIS Did you actually read the source you quoted or did you just do a google search? The first excerpt alleges some "statement" made when in fact there is no document officially released by Yar Adua himself. Are we even going to ignore the uproar over alleged forgery of Yar Adua's signature with regards to the budget last year? Here there isn't even a written statement with Yar Adua's signature, so what on earth are you talking about? The second excerpt from the second source starts by saying "twenty four hours after President Umaru Yar’adua’s statement" ( a reference to the so called "statement" alleged by Yar Adua's spokesman discussed in the first article). It goes on to talk about a U turn by the presidency which again does not come in a signed statement or press announcement by Yar Adua himself, but based on hearsay from Yar Adua's Special Adviser. I urge to please desist from hearsay and I would advice that you actually read what you post as facts, it is just laughable. You are yet to post about a signed statement from Yar Adua handing over power to Johnathan. @ndu chucks, where is the Yar Adua signed statement. No more "conveyed" messages please. Let us get it from the horses mouth not a special advisor or spokesman. |
| Politics › Re: Yar’adua To Attend Jumat Service by SkyBlue1: 2:06pm On Mar 26, 2010 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=419801.msg5772253#msg5772253 date=1269608610]The reaction to most of you to Yar'Adua's attendance of the Jumat service shows extraordinary insensitivity and evil. If Yar'Adua and his relations believe that he would receive healing by going to the service, who are you to question them? Yar'Adua is a human being first - so let's respect the man and let him try to work through his illness in peace. Yar'Adua himself has issued statements recognizing GJ and acting president. I'm sure when many of you hear that some foreign healer is coming for a crusade, you'd do all you can to attend because you expect miracles. If Yar'Adua is able to attend the service, then we should all be thankful that he is receiving healing. Please let Yar'Adua be and let us all wish him well.[/quote]With regards to the part in bold, show us just ONE, I repeat, just ONE of these so called "statements" released by Yar Adua, or please just stop embarassing yourself. |
| Politics › Re: 2011: Senate Approves Independent Candidacy and frees Inec From The President by SkyBlue1: 11:35pm On Mar 25, 2010 |
[quote author=Black_Revo link=topic=419711.msg5767985#msg5767985 date=1269549098]http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/3109-2011-senate-approves-independent-candidacy-frees-inec-from-president-empowers-electoral-body-to-make-own-rules-.html Written by Taiwo Adisa and Ayodele Adesanmi, Abuja THE Senate, on Wednesday, approved the participation of independent candidates in the 2011 elections. Senators approved the amendment to Section 65 of the Constitution to pave the way for the emergence of independent candidates in subsequent elections in Nigeria. During the clause by clause consideration of the electoral reform bill on Wednesday, the senators, for the first time in 11 years, demonstrated the use of electronic voting to ensure a faster passage of bills. The Senate President, Mr. David Mark, who presided over the sitting, said that the electronic voting pattern was adopted to hasten the process of passage of the bill. On Wednesday, 96 senators were on the floor, with 85 voting for the approval of Section 65 to pave the way for independent candidates. Eight senators voted against the amendment while two abstained. The approved amendment to Section 65 reads: Section 65(2): “A person shall be qualified for election under subsection 1 of this section if: (A) he has been educated up to tertiary institution level of its equivalent (B) and he is a member of a political party and is sponsored by that party or he is an independent candidate.” The bill also provides that a person standing for election as an independent candidate shall be qualified for election having been nominated by no fewer than 10 registered voters in each of at least two thirds of the wards in the senatorial district in the case of a senator. After approving the clauses of the bill, the senators then discovered that section 109 of the constitution equally proposed for amendment as part of the bill was missing and that there were clerical errors in section 107. The omitted part is section 109 of the 1999 Constitution, which is the state equivalent of section 68 of the 1999 Constitution. Section 68 (g) is the part that prohibits federal legislators from dumping the political party on whose ticket they were elected unless there is a division in that party. Ninety-seven senators amended 36 clauses in the 1999 Constitution which saw wide-ranging alterations, including freeing the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) from the control of the president of the federation. However, in amending section 160 of the constitution, the Senate has empowered INEC that it has the “powers to make its own rules or otherwise regulate its own procedure (which) shall not be subject to the approval or control of the president.” Furthermore, the composition of judges for Election Petition Tribunals has been reduced from five to three, made up of a chairman and two members. Quorum is now set at two judges, as amended in section 285 (4). The new membership was reduced because “it would help in creating more tribunals for the quick determination of election petition.” Section 285 (5) (a) (b) (c) was also amended to allow an Election Petition Tribunal dispense with any case and “deliver its judgment in writing within 180 days from the date of the filing of the petition.” The Senate also removed the appointment of state Resident Electoral Commissioners (RECs) from the president.[/quote]FINALLY. Voice voting which in Nigeria is tantamount to just shouting should be banned. With electronic voting we can begin to find out who voted for what, so we know who to hold accountable whenever a bill does not pass. The whole NASS should adopt this and not go back. |
| Politics › Re: Senate Passes Budget Of N4.6 Trillion! by SkyBlue1: 3:45pm On Mar 25, 2010 |
Passing 4.6trillion naira budget should not be made the issue, the issue should be full implementation of the budget, and money actually used for the purposes they are budgeted. |
| Politics › Re: Iwu Won’t Be Sacked — Senate by SkyBlue1: 7:55am On Mar 25, 2010 |
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| Politics › Re: National President Of Arewa Youth Forum Warns Jonathan by SkyBlue1: 6:41pm On Mar 24, 2010 |
[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=418106.msg5759573#msg5759573 date=1269451798]regional rotation is still the best way forward in order to ensure effective transition.[b]there is so much ethnic distrust that would make what you are suggesting to be rejected.[/b]imagine what will happen to such bill if eveentually it heads to the NASS.let be realistic,we are not in disneyland.[/quote]LOOOL. And what exactly have I suggested? If you cannot see throughout all my posts that what I have actually been suggesting is not really rotation between 250+ ethnic groups, but a credible, open and fair electoral process that enables the best man for the job to rise to the top by keeping the focus on issues and strategies towards development, then I am afraid we really do have nothing to talk about. I would have to say you are the one living in disneyland if you think an unjust and unfair system of rotation is sustainable. You expect to tell some people that they are not quite as equal as others and expect this same people to be patriotic and lovers of Nigeria? This is even more amusing when I recall your attempts at feigning shock at the fact that some people actually want out of Nigeria. If rotation between 250+ ethnic groups is silly, then rotation between six zones is just down right stupid and insulting. If you don't get it now then I would not hold my breath that you ever will, have a nice day  |
| Politics › Re: National President Of Arewa Youth Forum Warns Jonathan by SkyBlue1: 5:41pm On Mar 24, 2010 |
[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=418106.msg5758645#msg5758645 date=1269444804]lets talk about something realistic and objective.the yoruba and igbo will not find it hard to produce a candidate because they control the south west and south east,the south south will have to agree between the different ethnics while the north can always reach a compromise.you can continue to stress on your analysis but the sustainabilty of such in the long run is what we should think.that means the north will have t wait for almost 2000 years before they can rule again.[/quote]Please just try your bests to ignore my posts and stop quoting them. I don't know how sustainable you think an unjust system is, hasn't history thought you different? So it is not acceptable for the north to wait 2000years in a system as preposterous as rotation, but it is ok for smaller groups to? Do you see what I now mean by ethnic chauvinism and arrogance? |
| Politics › Re: National President Of Arewa Youth Forum Warns Jonathan by SkyBlue1: 3:48pm On Mar 24, 2010 |
Tuyis:Never claimed government being involved in NEPA or not as the issue, was simply trying to highlight that claiming to practise a system does not mean you are practising the sytem; in my analogy, claiming to be capitalist and running a free market not correlating with having government controlled organisations monopolising in every facet of sectors like power and telecommunications ( as was the case before deregulation of the telecommunications market anyway). |
| Politics › Re: National President Of Arewa Youth Forum Warns Jonathan by SkyBlue1: 3:33pm On Mar 24, 2010 |
Tuyis:Here is the thing though, you say we have practised all types of system except communism, and I disagree with you. We are yet to even practise this federal structure of democracy for a start, so what are you talking about? The question is not about what systems we have feigned "practising", but what systems we have actually implemented. The irony in your statement is that in a very twisted way and in terms of economics, Nigeria has been more communist in the past than you might want to admit. Until recently, Nigeria has had a very closed and still has a very closed market and economic system. Government owned NEPA, owned NITEL, owns NNPC, what was government's hand not in? And this is a sytem that was on paper meant to be capitalist and free market? Government was blowing money on subsidies for petroleum and is only now thinking of deregulating the sector. I don't want to write an essay on the issue, but let leave government and look at the citizenry. In a democracy the citizens also have a part to play, an idea that Nigerians always want to shy away from. Democracy starts with free and fair elections but Nigeria cannot even do that, so what do you mean by we have tried all systems if we have not even been able to implement the ones we claim to have adopted? Why don't we start with free, open and fair elections first and see if the sky will fall? |
| Politics › Re: National President Of Arewa Youth Forum Warns Jonathan by SkyBlue1: 3:26pm On Mar 24, 2010 |
[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=418106.msg5757989#msg5757989 date=1269440000]it's not easy like you suggested because of our multi-ethnic status.rotation makes thing easy here.8 years x 250 tribes each,i guessed it will take more than trust and honesty to sustain that policy in the long run.it looks boring and un-implementable.[/quote]So we should choose a more problematic and unfair system of roataion because you find it less boring? No offence intended but do you see why I sometimes call your posts mischevious? What happens if for example the Ijaws get the position from the south south for two terms and for some reason they get it the next time again, you do not see a problem with possible clashes about domination, etc? Genuine apologies but I do not have the patience to keep indulging your posts. I guess as long as some groups are satisfied and it does not affect you, to hell with everybody else. And people wonder why their is a problem with patriotism in Nigeria and why some people do not want in. What good has quota sytem brought thus far? What good has rotation brought thus far? What good has federal character brought thus far? Other countries are advancing and you are here proposing systems that hardly ever push for the best person to get to the top, but as long as presidency reaches your side, right? At least be bvold enough to acknowledge the chauvinism and arrogance in the proposition and say, as long as all major groups are satisfied to hell with everyone else, but please do not insult the very idea of peace and justice by linking such questionable propositions to such respected concepts. You want to rotate not so everybody gets a shot, but on your own terms, and that will bring justice how? Apologies, I would not indulge you further. |
| Politics › Re: National President Of Arewa Youth Forum Warns Jonathan by SkyBlue1: 3:05pm On Mar 24, 2010 |
Afam:With regards to the bolded part, I politely disagree. You are free to call it idealism if you want but I believe it isn't. If Nigerians just worked together and put pressure on the government till we get a system that is equittable and more egalitarian than what we have now. Having a system which promotes the best man for the job regardless of ethnicity is not impossible, it just requires work, the question is whether Nigerians in general are ready to work for it. |
| Politics › Re: National President Of Arewa Youth Forum Warns Jonathan by SkyBlue1: 3:02pm On Mar 24, 2010 |
Tuyis:In a country where even local government elections are rife with ethnic politics, I was trying to highlight how aspiring towards a system which sacrifices ability as a compromise to ethnocentric politiking in itself is absurd if peace is what is actually being sought. How many ethnic groups are in the south south? Do you know how many ethnic groups are in River State alone? I hope you know there are much more than just Ikwerres and Ijaws. And what about the Mid Belt, how many ethnic groups are there? You really think asking such groups to "sort themeselves out and produce a candidate" would douse the tensions in such regions? If peace is what is being sought then rotation between six geopolitcal zones is absurd and I dare say even more absurd than my proposal. However, if peace is not the issue, and what is being sought is a simple compromise that would satisfy short term greed and satisfaction, then fine, you can propose your rotation solution. But please, for crying out loud don't try and hide it under the banner of "for peace, progress and development", because it is not. What would bring genuine development and possible peace and progress along with it, is crafting a system that encourages the best man to rise to the top (no matter where they are from). What would bring about a feeling of equity and peace in a rotational system is proper rotation and not more WAZOBIA like politics. So why go half way between those and compromise any possible good? You say my ideas are lofty, no offence but I will reply that Nigerians are lazy. No need to keep building short term foundations that would cause more problems in the future just so we can sleep well tonight. |
| Politics › Re: National President Of Arewa Youth Forum Warns Jonathan by SkyBlue1: 2:31pm On Mar 24, 2010 |
[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=418106.msg5757569#msg5757569 date=1269437033]you know that would not be possible.we should always proposed things that are feasible.the electoral law will have identify all the tribes in nigeria and do the arrangement.its not a bad idea but for simplicty purpose,the constitution should extend regional bundaries and recognized them.then at the time of each region to produce a presidential candidate,they can reach a concensus to push forward a candidate but anyways i understand your point.thanks[/quote]If we can't rotate properly then why rotate at all? How would have measures promote better equity and justice? We could push for a more credible and thorough electoral process which enables the best man for the job to rise to the top, but rotation would be a better option? Why exactly do we need to rotate if we can't rotate properly? To satisfy who exactly? |
| Politics › Re: National President Of Arewa Youth Forum Warns Jonathan by SkyBlue1: 2:09pm On Mar 24, 2010 |
[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=418106.msg5757273#msg5757273 date=1269434673]in a free and open election where all the 250+ tribe feed its own candidate,do you think all the minority tribes will ever taste the presidential seat.if at the end of the day,only the north keep retaining the seat,will the other tribes called that tribalism.in a multi-ethnic system like ours,the perfect is the rotational presidency as it will guarantee equal rights to power for all the regions.250+ people contesting for one seat,that makes little sense.[/quote]At the bolded part. . . . . . . . . . . . . .? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Its either you just don't seem to be able to grasp the issues or you are just being mischevious. Your arguements are all over the place. You said you agree with rotational presidency between "six political zones". I said why six poitcal zones when there are in fact 250+ ethnic groups? How does that solve the problem of equity? In the proposed rotation among 250+ ethnic groups (which would be the proper and just way if we are to rotate properly),why would it cause a problem? Why would justice and equity make little sense to you? Why would anybody else be running for presidency in that kind of rotation when it is not their turn? Do you now see how silly the bolded part of your arguement is? Why this nervousness of rotating properly? What is the fear? You want to rotate but you don't want to rotate properly, you want to run ethnic politics but you don't want to recognise all ethnic groups, you want (I hope) a good candidate but you want him to come from 'the right place at the right time'. Is this not confusion? If rotation between 250+ ethnic groups makes little sense, then so does rotation between six geo political zones, so please enough. I keep saying, at least be courageous enough to express the arrogance of your proposition more openly, so trhat we know once and for all that in Nigeria all are not equal. Your earlier comment still comes to mind. "it would be left for each region to conduct its own internal arrangement"; what on earth does that mean? And what would such arrangements be? Ugh |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 1:44am On Mar 24, 2010 |
papadonkee:No need trying to turn this into what it isn't or tell me "a woman is more than her husband's surname". I am simply trying to establish any possible connection she might have with Tony Anenih and how long ago this connection or relationship (if now non existent), was severed. To be honest all of this remains speculation till we see the actual list (with 42 names) that was sent to the senate |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 1:10am On Mar 24, 2010 |
papadonkee:. . . . . . . . Thanks for the info but why is she still bearing the Anenih name? When did they divorce, last night? |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 1:02am On Mar 24, 2010 |
SEFAGO:The ministries are Agriculture & Water Resources, Aviation, Commerce and Industry, Defence, Education, Energy (Gas, Petroleum and Power), Environment, Federal Capital Territory, Finance, Foreign Affairs, Health, Information & Communications, Interior, Justice, Labour, Mines and Steel Development, Niger Delta, Police Affairs, Police Formation and Command, Science & Technology, Transportation, Tourism, Culture & National Orientation, Youth Development, Women Affairs, Works, Housing & Urban Development, National Sports Commission and National Planning Commission. Unecessary bureaucracy. Ministers also have deputies called Minister of State. We do not have enough money to be running such a bloated civil service. It is not sustainable gievn the ammount of work that needs to be done in the country. |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 12:06am On Mar 24, 2010 |
doyin13:The list he has forwarded is the complete list (36 chosen by the governors and six chosen by him), and according to one of the ealier reports, Josephine Anenih was Anambra's submission, so what has that got to do with Johnathan? I still think all hope is not lost and we can put pressure on the senate, but for once let us not be deceived and make noise for the sake of it, let us actually channel our frustrations and hold who needs to be held accountable. |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 12:02am On Mar 24, 2010 |
Excerpt from online source. Full story here http://www.nigerianewspapersonline.net/list-of-ministers-ready “The Senate has given assurances that they will expedite action on the confirmation of the nominees; so, we expect the confirmation to start this week,” the source said. Among those at the Villa were PDP National Chairman Vincent Ogbulafor, Governors Akwe Doma (Nasarawa), Segun Oni (Ekiti), Timipre Sylva (Bayelsa) and Ikedi Ohakim (Imo). Though they said their visit was not connected with the reconstitution of the cabinet, The Nation gathered that the issue came up in their talks with Jonathan. Ohakim acknowledged that he was consulted, adding that as a governor he has the right to submit a list. Ohakim, who spoke with State House correspondents after meeting with Jonathan, said: “I have been consulted. I am a governor of a state and I have the right to submit my ministerial list but that is not the reason I am here”. On the kind of ministers expected, he said, the Acting President is a pragmatic leader who knows what to do at any given time. He said: “the Acting President is pragmatic and forward looking; he knows what to do. He knows the country has been trekking and we need to run, we need to fast-forward governance and my mind tells me that he will look for key professionals, those who can run with the ideas and give them responsibilities of driving the activities of this country because we can’t wait forever. I know who he is and that he has what it takes. In the next few days you will be happy with what is coming out from the exercise.” |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 11:58pm On Mar 23, 2010 |
Nigeria leader Goodluck Jonathan 'chooses cabinet' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8583880.stm Nigeria's acting President Goodluck Jonathan has nominated a list of ministers, sources say, a week after he sacked his entire cabinet. Parliamentary sources said Mr Jonathan had forwarded his nominees to the Senate for their consideration. Finalising cabinet choices could take weeks, amid jockeying for position among the country's many rival interest groups and regions. Mr Jonathan is acting leader in place of the ailing President Umaru Yar'Adua. He sacked the cabinet in what analysts say was an attempt to replace Yar'Adua loyalists with his own choices. Some reports suggested that the list he had given to the Senate included the names only of those ministers from the previous cabinet that he wanted to retain. Other reports said he had provided a complete list of cabinet nominees. Officials have not yet commented on the reports, but the Senate is expected to make an announcement on Wednesday. Mr Jonathan is battling to fill a power vacuum that has been plaguing Nigerian politics since Mr Yar'Adua went to Saudi Arabia for medical treatment in November last year. The president recently returned to Nigeria, but he has still not been seen in public since he fell ill. Mr Jonathan was installed as acting president on 9 February after weeks of legal wrangling and widespread street protests by Nigerians demanding clarity on who was running the country. Since then, he has been faced with an outbreak of communal violence in the central city of Jos and a renewed campaign by militants in the oil-rich Niger Delta. |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 11:37pm On Mar 23, 2010 |
doyin13:Quick question. Have you seen Johnathan's own list? With regards to the bolded part, you know this for sure how? Is it not thesame Nigeria that has 'public secret act' which is like the antithesis to FOI? Is it not same Nigeria that practises quota system? Go and ask Anambra state government why Josephine Anenih is on the list to begin with. I am simply saying let us stop allowing ourselves to be deceived and shouting at the man watching your house burn, while ignoring the one pouring kerosene on the fire. |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 11:31pm On Mar 23, 2010 |
doyin13:Sorry but I can't see the sense in your post. What has the list got to do with Johnathan? Did he nominate those people? See what I mean by misdirected anger and frustration? It serves no good, let us stop allowing ourselves to be deceived. I can't point at the place in the constitution where it says ministers have to be nominated by governors and I think it is a silly idea, but that is how it has been done for a long time, so why blame Johnathan for a list he did not compile? If you are unhappy with the list at least try and hold the right people responsible. Firstly we should really be asking Peter Obi why Josephine Anenih's name is on the list. |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 11:29pm On Mar 23, 2010 |
[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=418230.msg5753763#msg5753763 date=1269382650]Sorry am just frustrated at Nigerians and my caps is a way of screaming, lol, sorry we just like to complain too much. . . . there are 42 ministers, each governor nominates 1 per state and i believe the president and VP nominate the remaining 6 so lets wait and see blame your thieving state governors instead. . . . again i hope the guy from Goldman Sachs gets the Finance Ministry that alone will be enough for me[/quote]I am curious to see Johnathan's own list and would be interested to see how he arranges whoever is cleared by the senate. For now though, frustrations should be directed at the senate so the selection process actually weeds out all the shady characters. http://www.nassnig.org/senate/members.php - (link containing contact details for senators) |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 11:23pm On Mar 23, 2010 |
asha 80:Then I guess you know who to ask about the nomination then. . . . . . . Anambra state government. You see how we are narrowing things down to the people who actually need to be held responsible as opposed to far out targets like President, Abuja, NASS? Personally I believe a concerted effort on putting pressure on the senate could do the trick. If Josephine is not cleared the skies would not fall, and if state governments keep sending questionable nominees then names won't be cleared and their states don't get a minister, simple as. The senate has an actual opportunity for the millionth time to do something right and we should pressure them to do so, while shaming the govenors who sent such quesationable nominations. |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 11:07pm On Mar 23, 2010 |
asha 80:We still need the full and proper list with all the states attached next to them, the present one seems sketchy. To be honest the people can still have their say and all is not lost. At the end of the day these are nominations and the names do not have to be cleared in the Senate. Unhappy with the list? Then Nigerians have to put serious pressure on the senate, simple as. All hope is not lost, and I would still be interested to see the names on Johnathan's list. I just hope we do not allow ourselves to be deceived yet again. You already have people saying "Johnathan has dissappointed me", when this is not neven his list. Let us direct frustrations and possible anger at the right people so we can actually get things changed. Nigerians, don't be taken for a ride. |
| Politics › Re: Ministerial List Is Out! Jonathan Leaves Out Dora (Sahara Reporters) by SkyBlue1: 10:59pm On Mar 23, 2010 |
[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=418230.msg5753556#msg5753556 date=1269380678]AGAIN WHY ARE U GUYS JOINING ISSUES WHERE THERE ARE NONE? THE STATE GOVERNORS FOR THE MOST PART NOMINATE THE MINISTERS,AT LEAST 1 PER STATE CHECK OUT LAGOS STATE NOMINEE, (from Goldman Sachs) THAT TELLS U ALL U NEED TO KNOW ABOUT FASHOLA, . , LETS WAIT FOR THE 6 NOMINEES FROM JONATHAN[/quote]I was just about to say that (why all the caps lock? ? ? ?) No need to once again misdirect all the frustration, for once let us channel it at the right source. State governors nominate ministers, what is important right now is what ministries the selected people are placed in. People angry with Josephine Anenih in the list should go and ask Edo State government why they nominated her. Let us stop being deceived, for once please let us think with a clear head. |
), former national woman leader of PDP and chairman of their constitutional review committee in 1999 (i remember she got the party to include minimum quota representation for women). In a nutshell, I like her.
, I thot it was a joke
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