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[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=418106.msg5753274#msg5753274 date=1269377482]you still didnt get it because you chose to ignore the remaining part of my first post.i said it would be left for each region to conduct its own internal arrangement to pick a candidate.there would be problem if the door is open for every one to contest the primaries and one particular tribe keeping winning at the primaries and possibly winning the elections.[/quote]No need to repeat yourself, I got your point but I think you might be the one failing to see. Do you believe Nigerians would complain if we actually had a exceptional president and powers were decentralised so people could actually take greater control over their future? How many ethnic groups are in the middle belt and south south? What on earth do you mean by "it would be left for each region to conduct its own internal arrangement to pick a candidate"? How does dividing the problem by six actually change anything or become a lasting solution, if it does not even make things much worse? If we have to run a political system based on ethnicity, then why the opposition to do it properly? What is so difficult in rotating between 250+ ethnic groups? Na fear? That way we have peace and everybody gets a turn since we want to do it turn by turn. No half measures, or at least be bold enough to express openly the arrogance of the proposition if you want to do it half way.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=418106.msg5753177#msg5753177 date=1269376245]you know it would not be possible for every tribe to produce a candidate to run for the presidency.lets assume it happens and the north keep winning the election every now and then due to their population.is it then that the south will start pleading for rotation.imo,i think the six political region should be CONSTITUTIONAL recognised so that power can  effectively rotate among them.it is now left for each region to adopt a modus operandi to choose its presidential candidate afterall politics is all compromise.[/quote]I don't even know how to take the very first line of your post; what on earth has that got to do with good governance? Unless we do proper rotation among all 250+ ethnic groups, then spare the lecture please. At least be honest enough to admit the ethnic chauvinism you are indirectly supporting with rotation among "six political region". If you propose rotation then why not proper rotation? Or as some groups more important than others? Its quite amusing how some people can make such propositions and then express shock and horror when some people begin to say they want out of Nigeria.

Afam:
As a realist I will continue to advocate for rotational presidency for now until we put a few important things in place.

Have you ever wondered why a simple task like population census cannot be sorted out without complaints where a lot of people from different parts of the country disagree with the results?

I don't know about it being the only way out but for now I think it is the only one that guarantees that no region will monopolize power based on the official census result and make up of the legislative arm at the federal level (both house of Reps and the Senate).

Let us leave idealism out of this for now because even in the US people tend to be realistic. Obama just signed the health bill that people ordinarily thought would have been passed long ago.

It is not necessarily about blue eyed idealism. Things hardly get done in Nigeria because the people hardly push for things to get done (but that seems to be slowly changing). Obama found it difficult to pass a healthcare bill because the people were also in opposition to it. There were those in favour and also those in opposition, both groups also wanting the best for America. The key issue should not be which groups hold on to power the longest, but what candidate has the most to offer to Nigeria as a nation. Credible elections could actually be a means of getting an idea of the population distribution in the country.

Afam:
Nigeria is not yet a nation and as such anything that will be done to keep it going (until we decide to break up) should be supported.

Many had complained in the past that the North held on to power for such a long time even though the bulk of the time it was the military that brought the heads of state to power.

The issue of rotational presidency was introduced to calm nerves and ensure that no single region will monopolize power and such an arrangement has thus far worked.

The PDP with all its faults remain the most organized party with nationwide spread and real political structure on ground. In reality, opinions on forums do not amount to anything on the election day and as long as the opposition only makes noise when an election is around the corner PDP will remain a formidable party.

Based on the above I agree with those that ask that the arrangement based on rotational presidency be respected because if it is not and for some reasons power returns to the North then it is possible to see another long period without any Southern presidency and any plan to change that using the law makers will most likely fail as the South will never get the required numbers to effect any changes.

Forget about the Christian North voting to support the South because when the chips are down they will still swim with the rest of the Northern region irrespective of the problems in Jos today.

While it may be fashionable to talk about dismissing rotational presidency today I hope we will not turn around to wonder what happened when the South begins to push for such in future because that may be the only guarantee to more representation at the highest level of governance.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the bottomline of your post is rotational presidency should continue because it is the only way power would ever leave the north? I would politely disagree, I would say thesame effect can be obtained if the elections begin to shift from mere superficial noise making, to actual debates on the issues. How many people actually voted in the last gubernatorial elections in Anambra? Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the number in the few thousands? So we have an electoral process in which candidates don't debate or face the public, make vague promises like "i will give you light" without being challenged in an open debate, or any other forum that could actually test their convictions or the soundness of their strategy to move the nation forward; and on the other hand we have a populace that do not exercise their right to vote and then complain about the leaders selected when the process is all over, how on earth would that produce a more promising candidate? Rotation does not solve the problem which I assume most people at the end of the day really cares about (good governance that touches the life of citizens in every part of Nigeria). Rotation is a weak foundation and if it is to be done, why don't we do it properly and discard WAZOBIA politics? Why don't we rotate among the 250+ different ethnic groups? If the worst candidates seem to rise to the top every time, would it be illogical to propose revising the selection process?

'Turn by turn presidency' is not in the constitution

Beaf:
What is most important is that the govt is seeing the need to build frameworks around the private sector and "creation of an enabling environment for the private sector". The time is too short for very much to be done, but groundwork is being laid and hopefully can be taken forward after 2011.

You know this how?? I really do have to ask again what "for the purpose of resuscitating the textile industry" means. I am tired of hearing vague rubbish. What is the 10billion going to be used for?? ?? ?? If you don't have the answer then there is no need to respond, I was simply thinking aloud.

LOL. @poster, try not to take offence at my question, but was this thread just opened for the purpose of oversabi? You asked a question and someone gave you an answer, unhappy that the response did not fall in your spectrum two of you have now started what seems to be an eternal 'back and forth' exchange. Are idealism and pragmatism mutually exclusive? No need to quote pages and pages of text book, let us apply some common sense here. Are you saying it is impossible to get someone that has ideals without being able to reason or see things realistically or vice versa?

Beaf:
[size=14pt]Jonathan pledges accelerated diversification scheme for Nigeria's economy[/size]
From Lawrence Njoku, Enugu

FOR the upteenth time, the Federal Government has expressed its resolve to revitalise the nation's economy, through a strategic diversification scheme, to end its current monocultural profile.
Consequently, a new focus on non-oil exports, which had being on the card over the years, will now be pursued.

Acting President Goodluck Jonathan, who made the disclosure while flagging off the 21st Enugu International Trade Fair in Enugu at the weekend, also stated that government had released a [size=14pt]N10 billion[/size] out of the funds earmarked in this year's budget, [size=14pt]for the purpose of resuscitating the textile industry in the country.[/size]

He stressed that by the time the industry has been fully revived, it would be capable of generating jobs for thousands of unemployed youths and thereby greatly impact on the economy.

Represented by the Permanent Secretary of the Federal Ministry of Commerce and Industry, Alhaji Abubakar Mohammadu, Jonathan said that the present administration was determined to address the challenges facing the real sector of the nation's economy in order to ameliorate the impact of the global economic crisis on Nigeria.

He therefore called on stakeholders, especially the private sector operators, to join hands to ensure that the strengthening and re-engineering of the economy, to make life more comfortable for the nation's teeming population.

While stressing the need for dynamic and institutional frameworks that would assist in resuscitating ailing industries to be put in place, the Acting President stated that some of the industries which have failed could still be revived through structural rehabilitation, adoption of better technology, improved operational guidelines and focused strategy.

"The creation of an enabling environment for the private sector has been the priority of this administration," he noted, adding that government had resolved to frontally address the infrastructural challenges, especially the issue of power generation and distribution.

While saying that no efforts would be spared in ensuring timely completion of the ongoing Independent Power Projects across the country, Jonathan revealed that the federal executive council recently awarded contracts for the rehabilitation of 25 major roads spread across the six zones of the country.

In his speech earlier, the President of the Enugu Chamber of Commerce, Industry, Mines and Agriculture, (ECCIMA), Okechukwu Nwadinobi expressed delight that despite serious challenges encountered by the chamber during the planning stage of the fair, the exercise finally took-off and was being held at the permanent site for the first time.

He stated that since trade fairs provide the most visible business promotion and investment platform, the Enugu International Trade Fair promises to live up to expectations.

Speaking on the challenges facing the private sector in the country, especially in the South East, Nwadinobi expressed dismay over the problem of power supply, poor road network, as well as the recent closure of the Akanu Ibiam International Airport due to maintenance work expected to last for one year.

"Baseline research, which was recently carried out amongst our members, revealed a major decline and negative impact arising from the airport closure," he stated, even as he called on major stakeholders, especially the organised private sector, to quickly come together and explore the possibility of building an airstrip for light aircraft within the Enugu area, as a temporary measure.

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/business/article01/indexn2_html?pdate=220310&ptitle=Jonathan%20pledges%20accelerated%20diversification%20scheme%20for%20Nigeria's%20economy

What does the part in bold mean? Way too vague so I don't know what there is to actually rejoice about.

snowdrops:
Twenty-one out of the 42 ministers who were fired from the Nigerian administration last week could be making their way back to power, according to some influential media outlets in the West African country. The names would be forwarded to the Senate for confirmation this week.
The upper legislative chamber may screen the nominees by Thursday, according to the This Day newspaper.

Among those to return are former Minister of State for Petroleum Resources Odein Ajumogobia; former Attorney-General of the Federation and Justice Minister Adetokunbo Kayode (SAN); Chief Ojo Maduekwe who took charge of Foreign Affairs in the dissolved cabinet; Prof. Dora Akunyili who earlier manned the Information Ministry; and Mrs. Diezani Allison-Madueke who was in the Ministry of Solid Minerals.

Others are former Minister of Finance Mansur Muhtar; and his former Minister of State Remi Babalola; former Minister of Sports and Chairman, National Sports Commission (NSC) Sani Ndanusa; Godsday Orubebe formerly Minister of State for Niger Delta; and Prof. Babatunde Osotimehin who was Minister of Health in the dissolved cabinet.

Allison-Madueke and Orubebe are said to be the only nominees of Jonathan in the dissolved cabinet of ailing President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua. Some of the retained ministers may retain their portfolios in the dissolved cabinet while others may take on new assignments.

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SOURCE: Africanews.com

Influential media outlets like?? ? ? ?
A tad disappointing that some people would be soo quick to believe anything. Has news become so scarce that we have to start debating on speculation?

Wasn't David Mark part of the pro Yar Adua 'keep him in power at all cost' group? If the nominees are to be rejected, it should be based on dismal performances in their sectors, not some vendetta or diferring opinions, especially since David Mark seemed to align with such views too. However, I guess any victory should count at this point.

[quote author=metal-gong link=topic=415081.msg5727568#msg5727568 date=1269037097]As I told you earlier, your question was a silly one and thats why I deliberately ignored . Emperoh wasted his time to pen down some of Okwute's achievements;predictably,you didnt disappoint me as you kept on asking him thesame silly question.[/quote]LOL. If that is what you got from then thread then that is your own concern. You couldn't name even ONE, I repeat, ONE achievement, and now you are trying to feign some non chalant attitude of 'not willing to indulge my "silly questions"'. Highly amusing considering you seemed to have time to post lengthy replies that were devoid of reasons for your very high praise. It seems to me you did not know what you were talking about, so would it be out of order to say there was some element of 'blind followership' to it?   I mean, how can you say something is the most amazing thing and not even give any reason why it is that way to you? You really just expect people to take your word for it? You didn't know what you were talking about, just let it go. Now when people ask you why Peter Obi might have been a candidate to root for after all, you can feign inherent knowledge and enlightenment about the issue by regurgitating @Emperoh's points

[quote author=metal-gong link=topic=415081.msg5727444#msg5727444 date=1269035560]@ Emperoh

I would advise you to stop wasting your time arguing with KOBOJUNKIE and SKYBLUE. These folks are really ignorant of the wonders Peter Obi ( OKWUTE ) is performing in Anambra state.

Peter means ROCK (Okwute) . . . Upon this rock, a new foundation is being laid in Anambra state and Nigeria. Ride on my citizen governor!!![/quote]LOOOOL. Gosh too too too funy. Amusing to witness the air of enlightenment you are trying to portray on the whole matter, considering you didn't even know the supposed "wonders" the man was performing. How many times did I ask you to name ONE achievement? Please I mean no offence but you need to stop this, you might be indirectly embarassing yourself.

ikeyman00:
skyblue
so this is all u can say

trait

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Emperoh:
Sky
In as much as having popular votes doesn't translate to being the best candidate, it goes a very long way to saying a lot.
However, like u have said, i won't add more to this. . . .if u are an Easterner (if believe u are) and u live in Nigeria pls take a trip and return with your verdict. . . i won't dispute.

Adigun
Do you know how many Ogun indigenes living in lagos because of the situation of Ogun?
Same applies to indigene of Oyo, Ondo, Ekiti and likes?
Are the Anambrarians living in Asaba more than those living in Lagos?
Aside Fashola, i don't think there is any siting Governor in a Yoruba State better than Peter Obi in terms of achievement!!
I stand to be corrected. Come with facts too. . . .I can bet you the Adigun guy have never been to Asaba talkless of Onitsha.
The nearest to Obi is Olusegun Mimiko and he is even yet to prove himself with just a little over 1 year in office.

Segun Oni? (Fayemi will send him packing soon)
Olagunsoye Oyinlola? (Obasanjo's thug?)
Gbenga Daniel? (When he's done commiting murder and destabilising his state Politically, we'll know)
Adebayo Alao Akala? (Grandson abi Godson of Amala Politics, even his Ogbomosho kindred are complaining)
Bukola Saraki? (Something is on ground for him but when he's done being the head of Yar'adua's cabal, then we'll take him seriously)

I hate making arguments along tribal lines and u are pushing me to but i won't.
Regardless, as long as u are not from Lagos state, u are not in any position to criticise the Anambra governor.
If you've lived in Anambra, pls come up with your grouse. . .

Having popular support is having popular support, does not mean the best. You don't know where I am from and it should not be an issue in the discourse. You are free to add more to the list of achievements, but what you have put altogether does not seem to warrant the review of "he's done more than a lot", I don't know if I would even give Fashola such a glowing review.

Emperoh:
If you say my response was not necessary, then i don't know how i woulda convinced you that he's done more than a lot.
At least to convince people to win him elections. . . .as for a new brandof politics. . . .i believe Peter Obi contributed immensely to that.

Without him, the uneven election dates for some states won't be the same.
Sky Blue, this guy stood his ground against the Shenanigans of Andy Uba, Cris Uba and the touts in PDP
Saw out Chekwas Okorie's hypocrisy and the general apathy from the elites and career politicians who felt the Governor was not greasing palms

Remember the 250m saga? I wonder why opponents never used that against him?
Could it be he killed the evidence before it became public or was actually evidence against him?
Nevertheless, the free and fair election election clearly say that he is the best amongst the fellow contestants.

Also, i am not one to follow blindly!!! I don't argue what am not sure of!
As it stands, Peter Obi is the best governor Anambra has had since creation and is the person laying a firm foundation for the state.

Quote me anywhere!!!

We don't need to continue this arguement, I didn't say he had done "nothing". I was addressing a poster who was in such staunch support when the poster could not even name on achievement, so what was he/she in support of then?

Some points to pick up in your post though. I take exception to what you say in bold; such a view ("he's done more than a lot" is subjective. He has done more than a lot? That is quite some praise to give the man, and if I am to go by your posts of what he achieved I would definately not say he did "more than a lot". He did work will do. Free and fair elections do not prove that he was the best candidate, it shows that he had the popular mandate which does not mean he is the best. Peter Obi possibly being the best governor Anambra had ever had, does not necessarily mean he was the best candidate for this particular elections, so no need to add maggi to this your tori. I just wanted to address those points. I already thanked you for the effort but informed you why though it was definately appreciated, it wasn't really essential to what I was getting at 

netsurf:
Yes! Thank God! , I can now start voting in Nigeria, I was forced to vote in 1983 when I was still under the voting age in Nigeria by my uncle who was an NPN chairman of our town then, I remember filling a whole ballot box alone inside our room that day, I cried afterward because although my uncle was a staunched NPN member but my interest was with the UPN and I knew I could not vote because of my age, I was 12yrs, yet I was forced to vote, I actually filled a whole ballot box alone.

Since that day, I swore never to vote under that circumstances again, I was going to change that stance when Abiola came up but I stood my grounds.

Now, if truly, prof. wole has formed a political party, I will be willing to vote, we need to root out the infidels called PDP in this country.

errrmm. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .you mean that special brand of voting you just told us about? Because that is the type of "voting" we are trying to abolish from the polity

Emperoh:

Thank you Sky Blue. . . I lived and grew up in Enugu before coming down to Lagos so i am also a stake holder in Enugu Politics
Albeit Urban politics. . . . . .Now, comparing Anambra to Enugu is like comparing Badagry to Lagos. . . . .U & I know Anambra was created out of Enugu
and as a state, Enugu had the basic developmental amenities being the capital. . . . .Awka was at best, a VILLAGE and in the real sense of the word village.

Those who went to Unizik between 1995 - 1999 will bear witness to this. . . . .there was nothing on ground to show this was a state capital.
Now when u have virtually nothing on ground, no stability and military rule, what do you expect?

Anambra if i must say the truth has seen the worst since after the civil war of what Political instability and power struggle can do to development
Even with its wealth of talents in every aspect has never been brought to bear on its polity. . . .talk of the best brains in Business and Academics
in the South East. . . . . . .what could elicit Chinua Achebe to speak up and scream. . . . . . it was a few clique converting general wealth to to their fiefdom. . . . .the rest is history.

Peter Obi's last 2 years till date was the best measure of peacefulness we have experienced. . . ,  talk of schools closing for ONE whole year during Mbadinuju's tenure. . . .talk of the Shenanigans of Chris Uba, Chuma Nzeribe and Tony Nwoye in 2005 burning down public facilities in the name of creating a situation for a State of Emergency to be declared in order to oust Chris Ngige. . . .i was in Awka then so i knew what went on. . ,  u need to witness the shooting and chaos to appreciate what am saying. . . . .and then the Andy and Criz Uba wahala just to capture power in 2007!!

Imagine all these things and then lets compare with Enugu. To your question, Peter is not the best Gov'nor in the South East.
But i think, that he is a very good point to start from. . . . .i also think Obi is not as out spoken as the ordinary Nigerian politician.
I bet you only started hearing so much about his works when election time drew near. . . . . . a proof to this is that most of those here don't know what he's achieved as Governor. Am I wrong?

What am trying to say is this, lets be cautious about those saying Sullivan is the best, let them tell me on what grounds?
Remember, i lived in Enugu and still have my folks there. As such, the person should give me concrete details. . . . . . .cos i will verify.
But i know that as we speak, Anambra State has the highest network of tarred road in the South East. . . . .any state with anything higher should come forth with details. . . .  .and i stand to prove this!!!

Nevertheless, obi is still not yet the best in certain aspects of the state development!

Thanks for taking your time to respond, I do appreciate it but don't think it was that necessary. I never claimed Peter Obi had done "nothing", what I found irritating was someone who could not even state ONE achievement coming to claim he is "the best". Before you showed up the best reason anyone gave for any flattering view of Peter Obi's was the emergeance of "a new brand of politics" (not necessarily due to Peter Obi's efforts, but the efforts of the people of the state. SO what was the reason for such? I just found it irritating that people thought that something was 'the best' or 'the worst', without seeming to have any clue. Such rhetoric is how Peter Odilli was hailed the best govenor in Nigeria at one point during his tenure, when he was in fact probably the worst governor Rivers State has ever had, because people didn't feel the need to ask for his records. I was simply picking at what seemed to be 'blind followership' which is a serious issue in Nigeria. Personally Peter Obi didn't seem like the best candidate, but Anambra has made its choice and it is a victory for the democratic process for Anambra indigenes, not necessarily for Peter Obi (so no need for what you posted @Frank-C).

Emperoh:
. . .Oga mi SIr, no pun intended, but if INEC has created an enabling environment for all candidates and organised and free and fair election,
doesn't that tell that a candidate who emerges victorious is the most popular? I voted in Anambra elections and I KNOW FOR SURE that if Peter Obi had nothing as achievement, HE WILL LOSE. . . it wasn't a politics of propaganda. It was something for all to see

Anambra medical outfits, got aaccrditations for the first time since its creation during Obi's tenure

Massive construction of Road. . . this is his biggest achievement thus far and about the most obvious. . . there major bad roads in anambra at the moment are Federal roads.

Improved funding for academic institutions and continued infrastructural upgrade.

Improvement of SPorting facilities and recreation in Anambra State. . ,  the first in the history of the state

Construction of Phase 1 and II of Anambra State Secretariat. . . the first since state creation.

Drawing up of a development master plan in conjuction with UN Habitat for Awka, Onitsha and Nnewi

Massive funding thought soft loans for Agricultural Development in Anambra State. . . . . .

Procurement of Laboratory materials and Installation of Computer and IT materials for all State owned Schools in Anambra State
this was done in conjucntion with Galaxy backbone to network all the Secondary Schools in Anambra State.

Computerisation of Anambra State Land information to stall fraudulent activities.

Massive Procurement of Vehicles and Communication equipment for securities outfits in the state.

Restoration of the Awka, Aguate and Amawbia Water scheme.

Construction of Judiciary Service Complex for the State Judiciary.

The above mentioned are the ones i saw with my EYES. . . . . i may not live in Anambra but anytime i go home, i do make to sure to go around to see things for myself. . . . .Peter Obi's development if for all sectors of the state simulteneously.

Give him kudos for standing his ground and restoring this state to Political sanity.
Anyone who has been to Anambra State. . . (i don't mean internet Ninjas) will know for sure what i am talking about.

If you were in Anambra between 1999 to 2005, pls go back and compare back then to what is available now.
This guy is the first person laying a solid foundation for the State's growth. . . .all he has done are not and will not be enough
But bear in mind, Rome was not built in a day. . . . . . . . we must count 1 before 2. . . . . . I can bet my life that all those asking for his achievements cannot boast of haven gone to Awka but rely on mostly what they hear or not to make assessment.
A good example is the guy who highlighted Sullivan Chime as the best in the SE. . .i think he is but i bet you, they haven't been to Enugu
and will ask for his achievement cos they've not read in the papers or internet website. . . . . . . .
that someone is not publicizing what he is doing doesn't mean he isn't working.

If you have been to Anambra State, i challenge to come and say the things u saw were wrong and should be done but not yet done.
I need cogent stuffs and not hear-says. . . . . . .i will be sure to get you pictures when i travel for Easter Holidays

Its not about sitting behind your computers and churn out grammar without corresponding physical visits.

Go to anambra State website for further issues. . . . this is the first time Anambra is developing a working Website. . . . we were that backward!

Again, i insist, those who are asking for Peter Obi's achievements, are u doing so cos u have been to Anambra State or because of what
u read or have not seen on the sites of Internets and likes. Its not about seating in front of your laptop and making jejune posts!!!

@Emperoh. Thank you. Very simple. While I agree that all the points you listed might be worthy of recognition to you, the points I put in bold are what I think are worthy of recognition (even if some are quite vague) and everything else just fluff, but thanks for listing. Does this qualify him for "best governor" from the south east? Go and look at what is happening in Enugu. . . . . and the guy there is not even making any noise.

[quote author=metal-gong link=topic=415081.msg5720115#msg5720115 date=1268934207]Why wont a silly question be embarrasing?
How can you insinuate that my citizen governor has no solid achievement while the truth is the reverse.
How can an honest person be talking about judging a governor by his works whereas Ndi Anambra had thanked him for his good works by electing him for another four year tenure. Are there any other way to judge a politician rather than going through the electorates?
Are you wiser than the majority of the electorates who re-elected him and also his top political opponents who had congratulated him for a victory well deserved?
By grinding through the above questions, you would easily deduce the reason why your previous question was a silly one.[/quote]WOW! So you can't even name one solid achievement? Again please, enough with all the gibberish, I do not need to read and essay. Just a very simple question, what were Peter Obi's achievements? You see why I say you are embarassing yourself? Just look at the part of that thing you wrote I highlighted in bold, read it again please. "The reverse is the case", yet you can't even name ONE achievement? Having a popular mandate does not equally translate to being the best govenor so enough with that excuse please. Hitler had a popular mandate with his people. Stop beating around the bush and answer the question, and if you cannot state some solid achievements then please just say you can't.

Imagine. You shout 'he is the best, he is the best', you are challenged on this statement and you can't even give us a tangible reason why Peter Obi is "the best"? Is that not embarassing?

Onlytruth:
Obi was not my candidate, Ngige was. But, I am not in Anambra state right now and may not know the present state of things. The fact remains that even PDP governors (with the exception of Soludo supporters for obvious reasons) and other parties are saying that Obi won, and have tried to identify with his victory.

Obi's biggest achievement is his ability to be above reproach when it comes to prudence and accountability -two attributes Igbos love in leadership; he trumps others in the south east. He says he is laying a foundation of prudence in Anambra state, that is a HUGE achievement which will pay off big time in the future.

Nigerians have this fire brigade mindset, I'm only happy that Anambra people are still as wise as ever!
Congratulations to the light of the nation!

So all the money (whatever ammount) Anambra state has gotten has been spent on investing in prudence and accountability? No need to try and identify the "Nigerian mindset", just a simple question of what he has achieved. If you believe that the achievements you listed are worth that much then that is up to you and I will leave you with that. I was hoping to get solid and measurable achievements so I will wait on the person I directed the post to if you don't mind

@metal-gong, please what are Peter Obi's achievements?

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=415128.msg5719809#msg5719809 date=1268931582]@sky blue**can you please tell me a social critic you know of preferably in nigeria that have performed well as a politician to further augment your arguement,please?.[/quote]No offence but I don't feel like going to do research for you. You want to draw a conclusion when you have not even heard the proposal? You still haven't answered the question.

Sky Blue:
And why do you assume that being a social critic and being a good leader are mutually exclusive? If that is the foundation of your arguement then permit me to have the opinion that it is very weak and lacking in substance. You have not even heard him speak on the substantial issues he wishes to tackle and most importantly how he wishes to tackle them, but you already conclude he would make a bad leader because he is a social critic?? ?

[quote author=metal-gong link=topic=415081.msg5719676#msg5719676 date=1268930514]Yes, Peter Obi won decisively because he was the best.
But sorry for disappointing by not listing Peter Obi's achievements for you to see on nairaland. This was how hack writers like you on this forum were asking silly questions about the governor before the election. But to their chagrin, Anambrarians told them that they cant fall for cheap blackmails.
If you want to know OKWUTE's solid achievements, then go down to Anambra state and see things for yourself. Also ask the average Anambrarians in the markets, schools etc, all they would tell you is that  "Obi is the best in Nigeria".[/quote]Please spare me the diversionary tactics, they are embarassing and I would not dignify them. Return to the question please. What are Peter Obi's achievements? Or do you not believe in judging a gorvenor by his works? Why is he the best please, educate us. Just list a few of the outstanding things he has done, or is that too much of an ask?

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=415128.msg5719737#msg5719737 date=1268930977]my arguement may be weak but atleast you can understand that i'm making a point.soyinka was not the only person that was induced after taking going into partisan politics.so also are tai solarin,tam david west,boalji akinyemi,funmi odubekun of NTA and so many others who compromised what they believed and stood.now tell what moral does soyinka has to question the regime of ibb.when last did you see prof confront ibb.he cant because of the mistake he did back then and that was why he remained a very strong opposition to obj regime.[/quote]I don't like repeating myself.

Sky Blue:
And why do you assume that being a social critic and being a good leader are mutually exclusive? If that is the foundation of your arguement then permit me to have the opinion that it is very weak and lacking in substance. You have not even heard him speak on the substantial issues he wishes to tackle and most importantly how he wishes to tackle them, but you already conclude he would make a bad leader because he is a social critic?? ?

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=415128.msg5719322#msg5719322 date=1268927925]i'm only being objective and in order to do that,i think i should do away with tribal sentiments.[b]how does being a successful social critic translates to being a good leader.[/b]it itakes more than street protest and carrying placards to be a good politicians.the same pdp,anpp and ac politicians would decamp to the supposed party and oops,soyinka with his international integrity will become a laughing stock.[/quote]And why do you assume that being a social critic and being a good leader are mutually exclusive? If that is the foundation of your arguement then permit me to have the opinion that it is very weak and lacking in substance. You have not even heard him speak on the substantial issues he wishes to tackle and most importantly how he wishes to tackle them, but you already conclude he would make a bad leader because he is a social critic?? ?

[quote author=metal-gong link=topic=415081.msg5719431#msg5719431 date=1268928671]Peter Obi remains the best governor in the South East. His blooming popularity is because of his performance in government.
If Peter was a noise maker,he couldnt have defeated your preferred candidate SOLUDO. . . . By electing Peter Obi for a second term, Anambrarians made a strong statement to all detractors and blackmaillers of OKWUTE.[/quote]Because he won means he was the best candidate? And the Ojukwu card had nothing to do with it? What are Peter Obi's achievements? Solid achievements please. . . . .

adigun101:
I was just trying to highlight that the present quality of leadership in the SE is very poor compared to other geo-political regions.

That is not to say it has always been like that or will it continue that way.

Is there some kind of law I am ignorant of which states that only ex governors can become president? Apologies, but your former statement seems to showcase a mentality which should be expunged from the Nigerian populace if true unity and progress is to be achieved. Why on earth did you bring up 2015? So certain parts of the Nigerian populace should not be allowed to contest for the presidency in 2011? Why? Is it in the constitution?

adeibi:
lmfao abi o tnx jare. My mum once tld me dt if barack obama or d bst prsidnt in d wrld rules 9ja he'll FAIL wid a capital 'F' u knw y? Cos 9ja's prob is 4rm d 'root'. If d foundatn is dstroyd wot cn d 'righteous' do. Leadershp isn't done as it appears wen u gt dere u'l knw d challenges u'l b facin. Evn Fashola cn attest 2 dt

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=415128.msg5717005#msg5717005 date=1268904749]why in the first instance did soyinka took an appointment from babangida.if i may ask you how can you guarantee that the check and balances will not translate to godfatherism on the part of soyinka in the long run.[/quote]

marissa:
I totally agree with Bluetooth! If he joins the fray, the Wole Soyinka we know will go down the drain.

I just hope as a politician his gist will contain less of 'catastrophe', 'war', 'disaster', 'mayhem', and all his other 'Nigeria is on the brink of annihilation' rants. At least his jumping on board means he knows Nigeria is not about to kaput!

I wonder what will happen when his party actually wins something and there's no one to oppose, and he's finally faced with the 'MULTITUDE' of party faithfuls who want their own piece of the national cake now-now or they'll 'annihilate' him, lol! It'll be nice to understudy his own style of God-fatherism and 'settlement' procedures.

Prof., pls, for the love of God, leave Scavenging for the Scavengers!

mekusxxx:
Soyinka was head of FRSC under IBB and we all know how he (mis)manged it. Nigeria is not English literature, the only thing he knows best. He should be made minister of reading and writing.

All these weak and lame excuses to do nothing. If he runs a credible campaign and can convince me he is the best person for the job out of all the other candidates, I won't hesitate to vote for him. Some of the posts on this thread are not surprising in the least. Anyone who ever wants to do anything in Nigeria just has to accept that you would get a lot of these kind of comments. The same reason why people will shout and "comment" to high heavens about how bad things are; you suggest a way they can do something and they will ask you "what difference would it make". It really is best to just sometimes ignore such positions altogether. It is a democracy and if you do not want to vote for him then don't. There really is no need to pontificate about where he can best serve a purpose, he has made his choice so why cry more than the bereaved?

If you think so much of credible opposition as a key way to checkmate the leading government, what is stopping you from starting that opposition? Its like we enjoy delegating the best approach for others to take, as long as we don't have to do anything ourselves. For how long would a lethargic and lazy citizenry hold Nigeria in bondage?

adigun101:
Congrats to Obi.

But I dont see why his joy should be that of the masses.

He hasn't made any notable change in four years.

Not even one legacy.

If Lagos can produce Fashola and this is the best the south-east can produce then it would be in the interest of Nigeria if Igbos do not come near Aso rock come 2015

I think the south-south are more ready.

A very retrogressive, embarassing and childish statement to make. All Nigerians should be able to contest for election. Turn by turn presidency is not enshrined in the constitution.

Fhemmmy:
How do u have a good electorate body with a terrible head.
How do we have a reform body, when the head is bad?

?? ?? ??
Maurice Iwu is not the legislature and is not in charge of passing things into law. . . . . .

Fhemmmy:
That will be a good thing to ensure good election for the next voting in 2011

Removing Maurice Iwu would not bring about credible elections in 2011. What would do such is solid and credible electoral reforms backed by law, and actual implementation of those reforms followed by prosecution and sentencing of any offending parties that go against that; and of course, people actually making sure their vote is counted. Maurice Iwu should go yes, but removing him would not be the end of the problem. He could be argued to be a disagreable symptom of the fundamental rot in the system that has to be fixed.

xterra2:
Good news,but i hope the national assembly would approve his nominees in the earnest,
But one question:the SGF and HOS(head of civil service) i suppose are part of the cabinet does that means that they are sacked,
But Mr Acting President,sack The Top administrators of EFCC,INEC and PHCN and i the whole nation would love you

I genuinely don't understand why Iwu still has his job. At least we are rid of Aondoaka so EFCC has no more excuse for not investigamting him. No more protection for any of these former ministers.

ojimbo IV:
no time to rest on your oars ag. presido. one more thing, though; declare yar'adua INCAPACITATED and let's move on. enough of the distractions.
it's too early to say we've turned a corner but we need to see signs of positive change.

Apt. I see nothing to rejoice about until I see the new ministers appointed and solid steps towards genuine electoral reform. He hasn't got four years. The campaign season for next year would soon start. We also need to play our part. Pressure needs to be brought on NASS for a speedy passage of a democratic electoral reform bill.