₦airaland Forum

mikeansy:
But nobody has confirmed what came back!!!

His lifeless body? or a Fit UMYA?

This is very important for the democratic future of Nigeria.

Don't bet your life on it. You have forgotten the country's almost unequaled penchant for tolerating rubbish which is now a stuff of legend. I am hopeful but I would not hold my breath. The house could not even impeach him, I won't even be surprised if he is declared fit to rule, even if in a coma. Again, I am hopeful that it would be different (heaven knows he is due for impeachment for the Saudi stunt alone), but I would not hold my breath; it won't be worth it.

babapupa:
Then find something better to engage with instead of peddling ethnic sentiments.

And what's responding to another ethnic bigot got to do with Rivers state budget? You got issues my friend.

I really can not afford to swap posts with you over what obviously is your own personal ethnic paranoia problem.

Well, your posts are there for all to see what you call paranoia. I won't indulge you any further. Have a nice day 

babapupa:
For starters,


Lagos state is a Yoruba state.

The Language is overwhelmingly Yoruba

The Government is overwhelmingly Yoruba

The language of deliberation at the state house is Yoruba

The cities, streets, towns and villages all have Yoruba names

The Arts, music, culture and traditions is Yoruba

There are Obas in Lagos state, not seriki or sultan, not Igwe or eze

I know it sounds good to say and as a Nigerian, you have every right to call any corner of Nigeria home, just don't forget for a second that Lagos state is a Yoruba state and folks from other state and countries love Lagos state because of the loving people of the great state of Lagos, their communal spirit, sense of togetherness and hospitality.


About what you like or don't like, please spare us the meaningless rant. Gari and epa is not for everybody and Lagos state is no forcing any Nigeria to stay in Lagos state or Love Lagos state. If Lagos state is not doing it for you, there are 36 states in Nigeria, freeking buy a train ticket to next state.

Life is too short my friend, keep your rubbish to yourself and go spend your time worrying about Your home state governors and their huge foreign bank accounts and backward towns and villages,

Another example of the "go back to your (backward) part of the country" mentality. I really just don't get the staunch attack at anything that might be approaching a semblance of criticism.

babapupa:
Unfortunately for you, the ethnic nonsense exist only in your mind. Don't you first have to tell us what comparing 2 state's budget got to do with ethnicity? Is Rivers state an ethnicity? Is Rivers state's budget an ethnicity.

Please stick your ethnic paranoia back inside the caveman hole you pulled it out of or go peddle it elsewhere.

Having internet access doesn't give you the right to spew meaningless rubbish. Go to bed if you have nothing better to do with your time.

Perhaps ethnicity was the wrong word to use, rather "go back to your own part of the country" mentality would have been more apt. The evidence exists in your earlier posts, including the one in which you stated:

I don't get these eastern people for real, it's like anything to seek attention and turn everything into needless Biafra talk


Must every damn thing be about them? The sun doesn't rise and set on their narrow behind for crying out loud.

What was the point of that? What has the poster's question got to do with the budget of Rivers State? You could have just stated that the Lagos State budget isn't big enough to tackle all problems at once etc. I just don't get why on earth you brought in Rivers State when the poster was querying about Lagos, is apparently living in Lagos, and paying taxes to Lagos. Unlike you, I do not trade in insults. The evidence of my objections which you refer to as "paranoia" is there for all to see.

babapupa:
And the state budget is only 2 billion dollars for crying out loud. 2 billion is peanuts when talking about 18 million people.

Rivers budget with just 5 million people and smaller responsibilities is way bigger than Lagos state, but I don't see these noise makers asking what the Rivers government is doing with all that money.

Your arguments like the one in bold always seem to border on ethnic sentiments. The irony is, on a national scale such reasoning has proved on quite a few ocassions to be destructive to the national polity. How on earth did Rivers State enter the equation? Is the poster living in Rivers State or in Lagos State? Is the poster paying taxes in Rivers or in Lagos State? I just don't get such diversionary arguments sometimes. You can still make your points without threading such lines which have in the past meant nobody could be investigated because people would say the whole world is going after their son. To be honest with you it is a tad disappointing. How are you sure the poster's family is not indegineous to that area hence a Lagos indigene?

Just when the country was witnessing something in the semblance of movement. Oh gosh. Back to the disappointing and dream shattering trudges of retrogression and motionlessness.

mikeansy:
President Yar'adua is now officially an apparition.

only the annointed can see Yar'adua

LOOL.

Beaf:
Tinubu and Ibori next.

Hopefully Yar Adua will stay away long enough for that to happen. Peter Odilli must be held accountable.

babapupa:
This is way way off santimonious talk.

It doesn't matter who Lagos belongs to, it's still  not by force to stay and call home a place you hate and dislike so much.

If you live in a bad neighborhood and have the means to move to a better neighborhood, God bless your hearth and move. Why needlessly suffer and complain when no one  is forcing you to stay.


It's not about who a place belongs to, it's about you excising your given rights to make adult decisions about your own life, peace and security.

Although I do not completely agree with the poster, I think your arguements are way off the mark. According to your reasoning then, I guess the world should open its borders to Nigerians since those in the country are not happy about it, so the country can be emptied of human life. If the citizen has a right to live in Lagos as a citizen of Nigeria and a Lagos tax payer, doesn't he have a right to question his government?

I believe Fashola so far is doing a good job (increasing the IGR of the state, investment in infrastructure and education, projects like eko atlantic, lekki project, etc) and I think we can't just expect the state to become paradise at once considering what was met. However, I don't believe you need to question somebody's right to demand from his gorvenor in order to make a point. It is meant to be a democracy afterall.

otawa:
These are people of yesterday.

They are the really axis of evil.

Only a moribound country like NIGERIA will give such people a voice.

They were both in government for so long but of what benefit then were they for Nigeria?

useless idiots.

Most vexious that Thisday will mingel with such EVIL people.

Were they elected as Nigerian leaders to carry out Nigerian interest? That question does not even make sense on so many levels.

otawa:
Miss Rice does not deserve any notice.

She has no crediblity. QED.

Only a silly country like Nigeria gives such 'useless evil woman' a voice.

She belongs, just like her master to rubbish of history!

You are entitled to your opinions

4 Play:
There is an implicit understanding that power is to be rotated, North to South, every 8 years. If for some reason, say an act of God, Northern rule is prematurely terminated, Southerners shouldn't be in a rush grab power. What's the rush for?

Implicit understanding among who?

Beaf:
[size=14pt]That would be a master stroke![/size] Bring the best together from every part of the country, people who mean well and are dynamic. It save the country from the current dangerous North - South dichotomy and set us moving forwards once and for all.
Jonathan doesn't need PDP and all its jobbers and rent collectors.

You seem to be quite convinced that Johnathan is the genuine way forward as opposed to being a lesser of two evils, absolute motionless or some measurable form of "progress and development". Why don't we wait till he actually achieves something? When will we learn?

Prof John:
It's been said that there are many system of governance in every given nation.
Few of these are: Democracy, Monarchy, Anarchy, etc.
But what surprises me up till now is the type of government that is being practice in Nigeria. We can not called this Monarchy, because in monarchical system of governance, one person (male/female) is at the helm of affairs dishing out rules by Legislating, executing and enforcing the laws all by one figure. Neither can we call our system Democracy, because as it's define, is a government of the people, by the people and for the people, which in practice, creates 3 arms (executives, legislatives and the enforcement) which also provides for separation of powers between the 3 arms of government.
But in Nigeria, the reverse is the case. However, it maybe, permit me to say that no one wish the existence of Anarchy, but Nigeria situation is almost like the latter.
Our Mr President is indispose and hospitalized for over 3 months now. Have we really feel his absence since then? The new Acting-whatever, is there hope of improve situation? What is happening to the mayhem at Jos? What about the 7 point agenda?
If i may ask fellow Nigerians, is it cowardliness natural gentleness that is having way in our lives.
Is it better to be slave in your country, or be a King in another man's country, which is far better?

I am total fed up with the general situation of things, where survival is for the fittest.
Regards,
John M.C.

Instead of wasting energy typing, permit me to give not just you, but all of us on this forum a chance to actually take part in the democratic process. I was going to open a whole new thread for this but thought since this thread was about Democracy I will post the challenge here. The problem has never just been about bad leadership, but also perhaps most importantly, about bad, lazy, cowardly, lethargic followership across the nation and abroad. So let us practise a democratic exercice right here, right now, and let us see how many will actually do it instead of writing yet another essay of "the problem with Nigeria", and posting it as if we have not heard it before. Enough with the problem, what can we do about the solution is what we should be asking now.

The two links I will post below, are links that would take you to a list of all the senators and reps in the national house of assembly. The links to each member mostly contain information, including contact numbers and emails. Why don't we try and be pro active for once and stop with the pontificating. Enough of the "brilliant" and "witty" political analysis which to be honest (sorry to dissappoint) are rarely ever new or refreshing. Why don't we all contact our reps and senators sometime this week and give them a piece of our mind? Do not be insulting, let us actually try and achieve something with the phone calls or emails. Let us also keep focus on one issue, Yar Adua. I will not tell anybody what to think, but I will personally call and ask why impeachment procedures have not begun based on the fact that we are still yet to here from him, and that the backing of the legislature for Johnathan to act as president, is not necessarily constitutional and can lead to more complications. For once, let us try to be active and good citizens.

http://www.nassnig.org/senate/members.php - for senators

http://www.nassnig.org/house/members.php - for house of rep members

If you get interesting results then post them on the forum. Let us see how many people will actually take this simple challenge. I am not asking for mount everest here. Just a simple phonecall. Just simple phone calls. Let us see what we will all do.

Ikomi:
@Skyblue

In other words are you trying to point out, that not only that the AU is in-effective but also there is no reason for it, since there could never be a common ground for the northern Africans and the sub-Saharan Africa?

The AU has proved to itself to be ineffective. Congo, Dafur, Zimbabwe, Somalia, Niger, etc. The simple truth is North Africa and Subsaharan Africa are different. I never said there could never be a common ground, I am just saying the sentiment on which the union is presently built on is weak, cheap, and fictional. If the union was built on an industrialised and economically strong Africa that can compete with the rest of the world and deal with its problems, fine. I just find the current foundation of Pan Africanism most laughable and even insulting to the very idea. Hearing Ghadaffi speak about Pan Africanism is such an irony and an insult, considering that most of Africa seems to have ignored the obvious ethnic cleansing of the indeginous black ethnic groups that was going on in Dafur. Didn't some African leaders even protest the international warrant for the arrest of the president of Sudan? So what kind of twisted "pan africanist brotherhood" is that?

Unless the non indeginous arab pupulation are willing to actually start treating the sub saharan populace like real brothers, that word should not be used. The actions differ from the pronouncement and show such declarations to be cheap, fictional, and only used to drum up support in the continent. Ghadaffi should shut up and stop proclaiming to speak for Africa. Does he even respect the continent? I am much more interested in ECOWAS than in the AU, and believe such a bond should be strengthened to become not just a regional, but a global powerhouse. If the members are serious (most especially Nigeria), such a vision is very realisable.

knigthadam:
, i think this man doesn't have a copy of the constitution or elso you would have digested section 144-145

their are constitutional processes on how to:
1, declare a vice president an acting president,
2, declare a president incapacitated.

these criminals from the capitalist block are here for business

so you man wake up and stop reasoning with the crowd, make them go find the president by force and let the world know what is wrong with him or else Jonathan is sitting on a time bomb.

Offending is genuinely not my intent; but have you no shame when you insist that others go and look for your president for you? What is amusing is the boldness with which you make such a declaration, like someone begging alms and insisting that he has the upper hand and must be properly compensated. U.S have their interest and U.K also have their interest. What is the Nigerian interest and what has Nigeria done to push such? Why do you want to go and hold George Bush and Tony Blair, when you have the legislature in Abuja who have to power to impeach Yar Adua and allow us move on? Is it not cowardice to insist we go after Saudi Arabia, George Bush and Tony Blair? Did anyone force Yar Adua to go to Saudi Arabia? If reports are to be believed, is it the government of Saudi Arabia that took a request to the king asking him to stop anyone from visiting Yar Adua? So what arguement are you making here?

Such is the kind of rationale at play when you consider that people (Nigerians) were immediately available to protest against Bush (in Abuja I believe) at the spur of the moment, but finding protest against bad governance in the country and all the rubbish Nigerians have to deal with, is a rarity. Talk about busy body.

Source.

Assuming it is true; what would probably prove most annoying and ironic is when you ask how many of the so called protesters how many times mthey have marched against some Nigerian governor or president or a non performing legislatrue and see what the replies would be. Your house is burning and you are going to complain about another person's own?

Ghadaffi is one of the most celebrated leaders in the AU committee and apparently "speaks for Africa", so what on earth do you expect? I am all for building a stronger ECOWAS that can have relevance to the member countries. The AU is an organisation that seemed to have risen to fill some vacuum of pan african sentiment, quite ironic given the contrast between Subsaharan and northern Africa, and given the history of trans-saharan slavery. Or has the concept of Pan Africanism has been revised?

naijaway:
Skyblue i feel you but nigeria's problems are no more small things. It has sooted to rust and any touch damages it. It is chronic and shameful as it was when it was 40 and you are saying unnecessary venting. My guy is rightful venting complete with some solutions. It is vast internal wickedness, ignorance and pride that is killing naija. We have a long way to go and commonsense issues are being overlooked everyday. oh well.

I call it unecessary venting because I have read such wayyyy too many times and heard such wayyy too many times without it leading to any change in the lethargic approach of the Nigerian followership. I never said you had no right to be frustrated, neither did I say you had no right to vent, I will stand by my own view that such is unecessary when even the people to be mad at and called to order, are being overlooked to go and pick a fight with some faceless abstraction called Saudi Arabia. I don't know why but it seems people have conditioned themselves to seeing things a particular way even when such 'complexities' on closer scrutiny can not always be defended.

I had to listen to some so called interlect in an Aljazeerra video posted in this section of the forum rant about how it was good that the house had empowered Goodluck Johnathan to act as the president and close the vacuum; while overlooking the fact that technically, the legitimacy of his ascension can actually be challenged in court and even cause more problems and more delays. Such reasoning I seem to have low tolerance for, similar to the arguments some people made on this forum when the courts were still deciding on the legitimacy of the presidency of Yar Adua considering the presidential elections. Instead of asking that we for once do something right, you heard such excuses like, 'letting things remain is for the good of the nation", "to keep the peace". It seems we have been conditioned to go through extreme lengths even in eloquence, to defend the wrong way. The house of rep members and senators are in Abuja, so why go all the way to Saudi Arabia and make this about them when we have people who can impeach a man we are paying but haven't heard from in over 80 days? Why? Why choose the unecessarily complicated road? Why?? Why, Why, Why? Is it Saudi Arabia that took Yar Adua there? Is it Saudi Arabia that asked the King to stop Ministers or Government officials from visiting?

naijaway:
Pres. jonathan should heed to ekweremadu's ideas. Nigeria really needs a serious diplomatic row against saudi. They don't respect us and have never did. Who knows? some prince or minister in saudi if not the king could be keeping turai busy in btw caring, schedules, and other affairs. Goodluck needs to come out honestly and always speak for the Nigerian people. He should peep game from Obama ideas and actions and simulate them naija style like town-hall meetings (not traditional thiefs aka chiefs show) etc. 
   Saudis are not nigeria's friend they are competitors and should be treated as one. We cannot be longterm mumus ie we both sell oil, then many nigerians pay to go to hajj as pilgrimage etc That should stop.   Nigeria should threaten to recall our ambassadors and if blushed, we recall them and send theirs packing. Then we support africa's sudan in full force major part of foreign policy.
    Only if everybody's salary can be matched to what they tell you. Internal security would matter against saudi. We will find friends among other african countries if we lead. There really need to be a stop somewhere in northern africa where the line is drawn against colonial arab expansion scheme while they fight israel for a small street.  saudis is their chief financer and propagandist while Nigeria is a freedom defender african bigbrother.

Unecessary venting. We should all call our reps to order and start pushing for impeachment proceedings. Once such procedures are finalised then Yar Adua can stay in Saudi Arabia for as long as he wants; heck he can even marry the King of Saudi Arabia if he wants, that would then become him and Turai's problem. All the venting really is unecessary, I don't know why we always seem to miss the goal post and aim for something else, we seem to misdirect our anger a lot. It is clear the family want him in Saudi Arabia, so grant them their wish and let us all move on with our lives. All the news coverage and threads over this matter is really dodging the issue and taking the onus away from the legislature to act and correct this nonsense. We have indulged the Yar Aduas long enough for crying out loud.

With regards to the Nigeria - Saudi relations; I am yet to see what good has come out from Nigeria - without referendum - being a member of the OIC. Nigeria needs to focus on its own development, I don't even know where Saudi Arabia comes into the equation in that sense. I see China investing in Nigeria, I see South African companies, even India; I am yet to see Saudi Arabia making any inroads in terms of investment; so wetin consain us consain Saudi Arabia?

WOW. More of these kinds of news please. The other week it was a report of a police man who was sentenced to hanging for killing a civillian; a few days ago it was an officer man asked to pay a fine of about 10million Naira in damages to a victim of his shooting. This is the kind of news that should really be publicised in Nigeria in order to serve as some form of deterrence to would be law breakers of the force.

Isaniyi:
we need to see our president cos we eager to see him cos people are just saying sort of things about our president. thanks you very much Dolapo.

Who is this we? Please say you, say your family if you like, but try to speak for yourself. He is a human being so for the sake of his family I hope he is ok, for their sake. However, I personally am indiffrent about if I see him or not; to say I am not looking forward to him coming back to return to his presidency is putting it mildly, he proved to be rubbish at the job and not up to the task. Nigeria has over 140million people that cannot continue to be held back by the affairs of one man; it is time to move on. I am already quite bored about reading such junk of how Yar Adua is playing squash, sipping kunu, eating suya, going to the gymn, watching football, climbing mouth everest, going on hajj, and all that, from alleged "sources". If he is going on such escapades and involved in such activities then good for him, as long as he stays away from Aso Rock. I think we have indulged the Yar Adua family long enough.

marvix:
The yaradua family doesn't want anyone to have access to the president in his sick state I believe that its their fundamental human right. But d ministers are on a solidarity visit to visit their boss, and d family should be able to grant access but whateva happens I believe dat this team will be able to c d president and d outcome will be different otherwise Jonathan will be left wit no other option dan to demand an official report of d presidents health and d process of easing him out of office.

@marvix, I beg your pardon but what on earth are you talking about? He is the president of the federal republic of Nigeria, not some butcher in Alaba market, he is paid to do a job! His hospital bills and trips, is he the one paying for them? Don't employers have the right to know the whereabouts of their employees during office hours in which they are collecting a salary for?

To be honest I think the legislature just made things unecessarily complicated, however, they can still salvage something of worth. IMPEACH YAR ADUA!

[quote author=naija_swag link=topic=400442.msg5543453#msg5543453 date=1266571258]We have to look at issues pragmatically and holistically.Check this links out from Al Jazeera .Then you will understand that many Africa leaders who refuse to give in to the right reasoning deserves a coup against them.Why must Africa continue to suffer under despotic leaders who are never interested in their well fare? When it happened in Honduras last year,the world condemned it but later had to understand that it was necessary to save a society from the whims and caprices of one man.The US has recognized the Honduras election although Brazil and some other countries have not and to a large extent it is inconsequential.Where was your president who was supposed to take charge of this matters that has been trying to escalate in the last one year? Did you think that this is an isolated incident? Address my questions and writing holistically and stop singling out legitimacy.Why must it be in Africa that leaders spend many years in power and have only poverty to show for it? It is in your country that a man had the guts to tell the whole nation that he made $500 million from sale of oil block and will get away with it.Was that oil block located in his fathers compound?

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/08/200988183348858186.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/10/20091030231013310453.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/11/20091122171056792509.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/08/200985161438111784.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2010/02/2010218225146122602.html[/quote]LOOL. I love that!

strangleyo:
My apologies i meant Niger.

If Jonathan stands by what he said today regarding coups, he will issue the Niger Republic an ultimatum, if elections are not organized Nigeria should proceed to remove the coup plotters and call elections for them.

West Africa needs 1 country to stabilize the region.

And you think Nigeria is that country? Apologies but it really seems like delusions of grandeur. Nigeria seriously needs to get its house in order.

newmaster:
Haliburton: US accuses Nigeria of cover-up, releases evidence •Envoy, AGF, Waziri, Sanusi, Seriki in secret meeting
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Written by Lanre Adewole

CONTRARY to the repeated claims of the erstwhile Attorney-General of the Federation and Minister of Justice, Mr Michael Aondoakaa, the United States, on Tuesday, disclosed that it had released information needed by the Nigerian government to prosecute those indicted over the Halliburton scam.

This came as the American Ambassador to Nigeria, Robin Sanders, held a meeting behind closed doors with Aondoakaa’s successor-in-office, Prince Adetokunbo Kayode; Chairman, Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), Mrs Farida Waziri; Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), Lamido Sanusi and Minister of State for Interior, Chief Demola Seriki, on Tuesday, at the Ministry for Justice.

The agenda of the meeting was kept secret, even as the chairman of the National Drug Law Enforcement Agency (NDLEA), Alhaji Ahmadu Giade, was asked to stay at the minister’s outer office along with journalists.

Before the closed-door parley commenced, Sanders and Kayode had met with journalists present, where the envoy waved off the excuse Aondoakaa had clung to, which effectively halted the probe in Nigeria.

America had jailed some top officials of the firm of the scam, while the probe committee set up by Aondoakaa which had the former Inspector General of Police, Mike Okiro, as its head, had been marooned in the middle of nowhere.

The ultimatum given to the committee to submit its report had long expired, with the former AGF being accused of deliberately stalling the probe due to his alleged personal interest that borders on gratification.

The disclosure by the envoy, on Tuesday, reinforced the suspicion of deliberate stalling of the probe by the former AGF, who once said the information received by Nigerian government on the scam was mostly in French and interpreters could not be found in Nigeria to translate it to English.

Apart from disclosing that America had not hidden any information from Nigeria on the matter, Sanders also promised that her country would be ready to assist Nigeria with more information in prosecuting those indicted in Nigeria.

She noted that it was surprising that long after America had concluded the international angle to the scam, the Nigerian government was yet to reach any defining point.

When a question was asked on the reason for the delay in prosecuting the local angle to the scam in Nigeria, she asked the reporter to direct his question to the new AGF, while encouraging Nigeria to be more effective in her anti-corruption crusade.

Nigerian Tribune gathered that the agenda of the meeting was on how the United States could be of assistance to Nigeria in the fight against corruption, with the repatriation of those wanted for alleged corrupt acts in Nigeria topping the list.

It was learnt that the case of wanted former Managing Director of Intercontinental Bank Plc, Dr Erastus Akingbola, was prominent during the meeting, with a source disclosing that his planned repatriation had reached an advanced stage.

The source said the US would be of help in getting Akingbola repatriated into the country, even if he was not domiciled in America.

The source added that America’s hold on international diplomacy would be of tremendous assistance in bringing the likes of Akingbola back to the country to face trial for alleged corruption.

Other ongoing corruption cases that have international angle to them, which had been tottering during Aondoakaa days, were also said to have been discussed, with the source adding that a new life would be breathed into the cases after the meeting.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/1466-haliburton-us-accuses-nigeria-of-cover-up-releases-evidence-envoy-agf-waziri-sanusi-seriki-in-secret-meeting.html

WOOW. A test for EFCC or SSS or ICPC or one of these other many organisation, no one can claim Aondoakaa is stalling them anymore. Let us see how long it will take for one of these organisations to arrest the ex AGF. The excuse in bold really does boggle the mind. The reason the attorney general of the federation gave for not being able to use information given to him was that it was in french? O gosh. That man has commited how many acts of treason now?

Finally. Considering how high up this is, if this case is pursued judiciously and the perpetrators are prosecuted and punished, that would be the most motion Nigeria as a nation would have had since 2007.

slap1:
Wat about FBI, CIA,LAPD,EFCC,CSI,NATO,ECOMOG,MEND,AL-QAEDA,PHCN,NITEL,NTA . . . .Etc. They're just beating about some bush!

??

I am very curious to learn the entails of the "development" list which resulted in $3.9billion in external debt considering we keep hearing about foreign reserves. Why exactly do we need to be borrowing money when we have over $50billion (last time I checked) in foreign reserves? After the ridiculous and unecessary borrowing during the 80s that got the nation into a huge debt hole in the first place, before the debt write off, I thought we would have learnt by now not to be so eager to take loans from organisations like the IMF or other such international organisations, especially when we have money yet unspent and are yet to working towards actually making sure the money we have is invested in things like infrastructure and education, which would provide good returns in the future. What have the loans actually been spent on?

Naiaraland can be funny at times. A controversial ex minister leaving the country without investigation after possibly looting state treasury is seen as "victory" for the Nigerian people? Lets say he flees to London, he would be "fleeing" to a country with 24hr power supply and if he can afford it, relax in world class hotels and enjoy good infastructure while possibly sending some family members to receive world class education. Yeah, poor him indeed. Nairaland can be funny at times, what on earth are we exactly celebrating? Aondoakaa's case is not complete till he is investigated and if found wanting, prosecuted and punished according to the law. With such reception of this news, is it any wonder that more people have the audacity to get into positions of power and loot the nation blind? Worst case scenario, they would be able to "flee" out of a country people are desperately already trying to flee voluntarily.

I watched the interview yesterday and I must say I thought Soyinka was being a tad too defensive over Yar Adua's own part in the whole matter. Yar Adua was not forced to be president, and decided to take the position knowing already he was sick after having thesame problem during his governorship tenure in Katsina when he would travel for lengths at a time. Leading Katsina is not leading Nigeria. Unless I am mistaken, Yar Adua and not Aondoakaa, was the one who chose Dora Akunyili as Minister for Information instead of a position more befitting of her more obvious skills. Unless I am mistaken again, Yar Adua is also the one who complained about not being happy with a clause in the Uwais report that took away the power of the president to appoint the INEC commissioner. The list goes on, I just wonder why people keep defending Yar Adua when the proof is in the pudding. When he was "stronger", what did he do?

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=386574.msg5491522#msg5491522 date=1265846733]am happy Jonathan took my first advice. . .demote aondokaa but dont sack him totallly. . good[/quote]Quite indulgent for a thread to be honest. So which of the Oscar Wilde quote(s) best captures you? What makes you think Johnathan took "your advice" as opposed to acting with his own instinct? Not everyone necessarily puts Oscar Wilde on thesame pedestal as you would, not for lack of intelligence or education, but simply out of preferrence or diverging views. What has this really got to do with politics other than just being another unecessary thread for "settling" petty squabbles? I just thought the personal attacks were unwarranted.

monkeyleg:
Well, let us wait and see.

silly Ojo Maduekwe was locked out coming late. See below.



http://www.thenigeriabusiness.com/eco313.html


Jonathan locks out ministers for lateness

By Madu Onuorah

[size=15pt]9th February[/size] 2010





Two Ministers, Chief Ojo Maduekwe (Foreign Affairs) and Mr Lanre Babalola (Power), were yesterday locked out for coming late for a scheduled meeting with Vice President Goodluck Jonathan.

Maduekwe came in 15 minutes behind schedule while Babalola came in 20 minutes for a meeting slated for 1.00 p.m.

They were however allowed in after some explanations and confirmations that they were actually informed of the meeting at the last minute.

Jonathan had recently abandoned a scheduled meeting with a group of ministers because of lateness. The meeting had to be rescheduled as those expected at the meeting came some minutes after the meeting was supposed to have commenced.

Maduekwe had on getting to the door to the Vice President's conference room hoped to enter unhindered, but was surprised to be told by the Vice President's security aides that he could not go inside.

Embarrassed by the situation, explained that he only got a call for the meeting five minutes to the scheduled time, soliciting the understanding of the Chief Security Officer to the Vice President to be able to enter.

Babalola, who got to the meeting venue five minutes after Maduekwe was let in, said he was not aware of the meeting before the call came, just 10 minutes before the commencement of the meeting.

Please stop reporting old news. This issue has already been posted yesterday.