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[quote author=naija_swag link=topic=407191.msg5621447#msg5621447 date=1267634569]Read the corrected version and quote me well.Are you ready to lose your father,mother,sisters,brothers,cousins,newphews and indeed your extended family? Can you bear burying 5 relations?This generation of Nigeria don't understand what war is.How I wish they could conscript Nigerians into the US army and have many die so that we will realise that there are so many other avenues for Nigeria other than war.That vigor for war should be translated into a 10 million man protest that can last weeks until change come.[/quote]What a tantalizing prospect. Well. . . . never say never 

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=407030.msg5621284#msg5621284 date=1267633160]We have a democracy that is at its infancy, I'm afraid we'll have to work within its constitutional provisions. It is better than living under military rule. We will amend our constitution as we go along, everyone knows that it is not yet perfect.

I'm afraid no amount of emotional outburst by you or anyone else can take away Jonathan's executive powers at the moment.  Go and file a lawsuit and see if you'll find a judge who will overturn the resolutions that empowered Jonathan.

Who cares whether Jonathan can travel abroad? He needs to stay in the country since he does not have much time - what the heck does he need to be running around for?  He has work to do.

Once again, go and convince your senators and reps to start an impeachment proceeding. They have all the information you have and are privy to other classified information, so if they believe they'll secceed, they should try to impeach Yar'Adua.  This is how democracy works, you of all people should know this.[/quote]Yes we will ammend our constitution as we go along, but according to what? The needs of the people or saving one non performing man embarassment (according to some)?

Johnathan's executive powers are still in question. We have a situation whereby military troops could be dispatched to the airport in Abuja without the knowledge of the man you allege to have "executive powers". You have a situation whereby the chances of the man we have not seen or heard from turning up at the next FEC meeting always throws the legitimacy of the acting president and his authority into turmoil and uncertainty every week. You have a top military officer saying he only answers to Yar Adua, but ofcourse all that paints a perfectly stable picture, as long as Yar Adua is left alone, right? Why this stubborn affection for unecessary complication? Why?

Johnathan's need to or not to travel is not the issue and I am shocked that you think that is the issue. The point is, does such an option still exist and is one still viable? Or does he become a president captive to the nonsense that goes on in government? So what if there is an important EU or ECOWAS summons prompted by some disaster? Of course such scenarios (which are quite plausible), should not be considered, as long as a man we have not heard from since last November is not disgraced from office.

I have infact contacted my rep and I have discussed the issue with him. However, not all reps are answerable to me or represent me, so I cannot do the job of every single Nigerian. The house of rep and the senate is meant to be a democracy, and convincing my own rep does not get motions or bills passed. The fact that you think people in government being privvy to some information might make them act in the best interest of the people (no offence inteded), shows either an aggressive willingness to ignore the truth, or just plain naivette.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=407030.msg5621049#msg5621049 date=1267631321]My observation is based on the fact that most of the noise makers admit that they live in diaspora. Do you reside in Nigeria by any chance? Are you the lone protester in front of the national assembly reportedly carrying placards?

You asked what would happen if something happens to Jonathan - well, we'll go to the constitution and find ways to deal with it. We still have the parliament who can pass resolutions.

Lastly, please list Yar'Adua's impeachable offenses. Have you contacted your senator or rep to inquire about why an impeachment proceeding has not yet been instituted?[/quote]What has my being in or out of Nigeria got to do with it? Save your presumptions of my whereabouts and let us focus on the topics. Perhaps most of the people who post on the forum live in diaspora because they don't have to deal with NEPA and fuelling generator.

We'll go to the constitution and find out ways to deal with it? That is your answer to a possible scenario like the one I highlighted? Just like we "dealt" with the current "complication"? We might as well make up laws as we go along in order to save some man embarrassment and shame. It is not about creating credible and stable procedures that further entrench democratic principles anymore. It is not about the dividends of democracy. No. It is about sparing Yar Adua embarassment.

Despite reports to the contrary, Yar Adua has been out of contact with his government and was this way for over three months and such still is the case; I don't know if the gravity of the situation has not actually hit you. The "transfer" of executive power to Johnathan was not transmitted by Yar Adua, so for all we know he could be on some beach in Bahamas, meanwhile he is being paid to do a job. Ministers at one point could not even lie anymore and say they had not heard from or seen the president. The former AGF Aondoakaa on an interview with CNN in his defence said he had not seen the president, but he knows somebody who has heard (Johnathan) from the president. Johnathan has not come out to say he has seen the president even. For peacesake, are we running a market or the federal government of a nation? Isn;t it absolutely laughable and even vile for someone to take such things into account and still claim "respect for the seat of the presidency" as a defence for keeping things the way they are? Where else does such nonsense happen? A VP normally stays behind in the country when the President is out of the country (as a security guarantee), so are we saying we are going to flout that or ban Johnathan from travelling till next year? You really believe such nonsense is not worthy of impeachment? Why must it be "disgrace" to get rid of a non functioning entity? What good is it doing the nation? The presidency is not a sympathy chair, you go there to do the work. We don't even know if Yar Adua is alive and still haven't heard from him, but of course in your estimation any old thing will do to keep the status quo, including possibly a dead man, right?

Finally, yes is the answer to your last question. I have been in contact with my rep on the issue of possible impeachment.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=407030.msg5620981#msg5620981 date=1267630525]I couldn't agree with you more, particularly regarding the bolded text above. Rascality and cyber thuggery have no place in governance. People who did not vote in the last election,  who are doing nothing to encourage others to vote in 2011, and will not themselves vote in 2011, are coming here with dumb analysis and postulations.

Jonathan has full executive powers and about a year to use that power, lets give him a chance to do so. We do not need the drama of impeachment at this time, besides, NASS will not impeach the man.  I don't see our cyber revolutionists marching to the national assembly and demanding that an impeachment proceeding be instituted.[/quote]At the part in bold: you know this how? When last did you contact your rep or senator? It seems Nigerian presidency has turned into an issue of sparing hurt feeling and saving people embarassment. It is about sending a message that such rubbish would not be tolerated anymore. One question for you. What would happen if something happens to Johnathan tomorrow? Why the love for complications and difficult situations? With issues bothering on forged signatures, being absent for over three months and still not being seen, etc, Yar Adua has already committed acltions worthy of impeachment. But ofcourse, it is Nigeria, so it is fine if it is tolerated, as long as the man (who we are not even sure is alive) is not embarassed, right?

vangogh:
Yaradua like the next man down the street was just overly ambitious. I have no sympathy for his incompetency, however, his illness demands sympathy.
He may have hoped that he would get better as time progresses, man is always optimistic -such is the nature of man.
Bottom line is that the current arrangement is good, we have Jonathan with all the exec power. We do not need to disgrace a president  from office simply
because his illness took south.
Let do the votes do the talking in 2011.

This is not about disgracing anyone, and the fact that you believe this is about such is quite worrying. We are talking about the lives of over 140million people and you are talking about saving one man embarassment? What makes you think I want him kicked out based on his health instead of based on his performance? Considering the fact he took the job knowing full well he was ill (and please no need to patronise, we are not talking about cough and malaria), why should illness then suddenly become a factor if it wasn't an issue when he was campaigning to be president? What would happen if (god forbid) something happens to Johnathan? Would Yar Adua take over then?? I don't get the affinity Nigerians can at times have for complication, what is it? Does it give a thrill? The president of the nation has not been seen or heard from for over three months and was not performing while he was around, we are not even hundred per cent sure he is alive; and you think this arrangement is perfectly ok? Really? Really really?

Becomrich1:
sky blue, if someone has inter ethnics marriages, an have children so what. and you think because of that we would not break up nigeria, you must be dreaming . not up to 1% of nigeria are from inter ethnics marriages.

If an igbos come to lagos or grow up in lagos. he use all the lagos girl finish. he goes back to his villages 99.5% of the  time to look for wife.

look if someone love you, and nigeria  break up. if he love you, he would not divorce because you are from another country. many nigeria are married to people from different countries.  chief alex akinyele, tai solarin etc. so what nonsense are you talking about.  there are even more nigeria abroad married to people from other culture than even in nigeria.

Abeg please just ignore my post because I don't want to go into futile arguements, and the fact that you could not seem to comprehend my post (who talked about split?) tells me this would be one. Have you forgotten the reason why I don't join issues with you? You have forgotten the truce we made when you were still on one of your many incarnations as Nigeria1? You forgot we agreed to discuss with other people? Please abeg, arguing with you can be like arguing with a brick wall (personal opinion). I have painted the door with blood so abeg spirit of Nigeria1/Becomerich pass me by.

mekusxxx:
I believe strongly in rotational presidency on which basis the Yoruba ruled for 8 years. It is fair that the NW have it till 2015. This systemn must not be trucated for Jonathan. Jonathan should rule till 2011 if Yaradua ca non longer come back to office; however he has to step down in 2011 for the North to complete their term. In 2015 it must be either a South East or a South South presidency. PDP has tried to stabilize the polity, barring their inability to constitutionalize the rotational presidency. So we must put this system into our constitution NOW to make it solid and more binding.

Any other party can do what they like but I am certain that no southerner, rigging or no rigging, can win the 2011 elections.

If we are to have a sytem of governance which is run on basis of ethnicity as opposed to actual democracy and based on competence of the candidates, why don't we do it properly? We are all Nigerians right? We are all meant to be equal under the law, right? There are apparently about 250 different ethnic groups in Nigeria. So if we are to do this thing properly, why don't we say every single ethnic group gets two terms? Meaning if someone from your village or ethnic group has already smelt the position then forget about it for at least a millenium. Anything less than this simply exposes the stupidity and hypocrisy of the system and another agenda. I also propose we take children of inter ethnic births into consideration. They should also have their turn at the rotational cylce too. Two terms for children of Okrika and Tiv intermarriages, Yoruba and Urhobo, Igbo and Itsekiri, Kalabari and Hausa, etc. Let us do this properly, if not sing another tune.

vangogh:
I said he did not ask to fall ill.
Since you listen to  the news and do research,  please provide evidence that Yaradua asked to be ill.
Just to remind you, I am not contending the fact that he was sick before he became the president.

?? So if he was ill (with a serious ailment by the way) before he was president, and still took the job without seeming to have any clear agenda; why try to whip up sympathy by using "he did not ask to fall ill" as an excuse for his leadership? I am supposed to feel sorry about what could be someone else's greed?

Fhemmmy:
The changes dont have to be immediate . . . .He has created some kinda awareness and that is all that counts.
he has made people see what cld be done and i am sure, many will join soon

We are talking about Nigeria, right? For your sake, do not hold your breath. On quite a few occassions I have thrown out challenges on this forum on how we can actually participate in being part of the solution instead of just talking. The number of excuses like "what difference would it make" you hear is quite amusing. Last week or so, I posted links to members which contained contact details of house or rep members and senators so that people who "debate" on this section with such conviction, can actually act by doing something very simple, contacting your reps (something I actually did myself). Simple as that. Imagine if we all did it. Some guy takes things a step further and protests on his own, and some people are castigating?

The issue I higlighted in bold shows search for instant and quick gratification. It seems people won't even consider (talk less of doing), anything unless they are 190% sure it will "make a difference", or unless everyone also does it (so no one ends up doing it). Another way of seeing it is doing all you can because your convictions are actually worth something so that you can at least say you have tried, not because you are sure it will "make a difference" or because it would be popular or liked. This man has shown more courage than many who "contribute" to discussions.

chosen04:
^^^^And who told him his protest will bring any change?

The man has no massage. 'We can see Joe'  is no protest point at all.


Milk suit and chocolate shirt,
Grey Hummer Jeep filled,
Bottles of Bottled ice chilled water,
2 Placards.

^^^^Obviously, this man is not protesting but advertising his wealth and life style.

A common excuse used by many Nigerians (if not most) to sit down and do absolutely nothing, while complaining about how bad things are and ofcourse indulging themselves in "enlightened and intelligent" rants on what they think are "the problems with Nigeria". Talk is cheap. You think he could have had a better message? Why not go there and deliver it yourself like he did? Honestly. . . . . . Nigeria.

Fhemmmy:
True that and this is why i said OBJ was the biggest criminal that ought to be probed in all these

Gosh, is Yar Adua a baby? Sometimes some comments really do confound me. Did OBJ put a gun to Yar Adua's head and force him to take the presidential ticket? We are talking about some grown up man here with a wife and children, not some seven year old kid. OBJ might have given Yar Adua the opportunity to be president, but it was Yar Adua who chose to be president. Why do we like shifting blame from the person we can hold accountable now to someone more abstract? It seems to be a past time the Nigerian citizenry is fond off. If the man walked into the job of first citizen of a nation of over 140million people that needs serious work without a serious plan, more reason he should be kicked out ASAP. The handling of this man with child's gloves and all the sympathy really does confuse me sometimes.

vangogh:
I agree with the governors on this one.  The Presidency is the highest office in our land and its integrity must be protected regardless
of who currently occupies it. Debasing the office by simply yanking off the president because of illness should not be an option.
Yardua did not ask to fall ill; the whole thing is just an unfortunate thing.

The only gripe I have in the whole saga is how the Yardua handlers+plus his immediate family have handled the handing over of power to Jonathan, it should have been
done in the very first week Yaradua took ill.
The current arrangement is suitable for all concerned as Jonathan now has full executive powers.

Read your news and do basic research. He was ill before he became president.

Ibime:
So basically, NNPC is to be privatised. . . whats new about this initiative and how does it benefit us?

We might as well put our hope in OANDO then. . . at least they're already privatised, they're a professional operation, they are already operating "beyond our national boundaries" (being largest shareholders of AIM-listed Equator Exploration). . . in other words, there's nothing to write home about Jonathans statement. . . NNPC has nothing to offer except its refineries.

And If NNPC wanna sell their refineries, they should at least get them operative first. Naija is the only country I know that always try to privatise non-functional companies. 

Actually privatising NNPC is in the country's national interest; less government money lost either through corruption in the company or sustaining it.

Beaf:
I cannot help but lof Jonathan. This indeed what NNPC ad Nigeria needs. Over the years NNPC has been a wide open conduit for the brazen theft of our money - straight out of the oil wells into foreign accounts.

. . .Next kick out the twin vultures, Barkindo and Rilwan Lukman.

I dare say your affection is probably born out of the realisation that the man might actually (shock horror) understand some of the problems of Nigeria and some of the things that need to be done. Unfortunately, such has not been uncommon. The issue is not undernstanding the problem, but if he would have the guts to do what needs to be done even if it means stepping on toes and exposing what has been hidden. It might shock you to know that not all in power are dumb idiots who do not know what to do; I know we like to tell ourselves this lie as a means of coming to terms with or trying to understand the lack of progress; but such a view is, to be honest, a tad arrogant. He gets no marks for understanding the problem, let us see if he would be able to push through on a solution to the problem and do what needs to be done.

PapaBrowne:
^^^^^
The first steps make all the difference. If in my perception, he is getting the first steps right and doing so at a pace i deem superb, then I have every right to be optimistic!

Overdrive is a state of heightened activity or concentration.  Lets not beat about the bush, his actions are positive. I choose to be optimistic!!

Never claimed his actions to be negative and neither did I claim I wasn't optimistic. I simply think your glowing reviews do not have any substance of merit to stand on. I am genuinely meant to take your estimation of him serious when you seem to be impressed that he was able to set up a committee with a clear agenda and being headed by people in the field? What else are we going to applaud him for if that is something worth applauding? Such actions don't even fall in the mould of your definition of overdrive, they are just commonsense principles.

If first steps are that important, then his is missing a lot of agendas so far, however, there is still a little time left to see if he will pick them up.

PapaBrowne:
Skyblue,
You expect him to address electoral reform in his first two days in office?? Haba!

My point is simple- He is taking the right steps! And he is doing them fast! In my books thats called an overdrive especially when viewed from the snail speed approach to everything by  Yar Adua!!

All that makes the difference in performance is the people you appoint to undertake any project. He is appointing technocrats as against the usual appointment of politicians. That makes all the difference.

I am simply saying your assesment is premature especially when backed up with such reasoning as seen in your post (and I stand by it). In one breath you make it sound unreasonable to ask him to begin addressing electoral reforms, and in the next you say he is "taking the right steps". If he can take "the right steps" with regards to federal projects, why can't he equally "take the right steps" with regards to electoral reform? I can't speak for you, but for me, if he does not seriously begin looking at electoral reforms in the next ten days, then I won't even take him serious. Elections are next year and running an election requires time to prepare. So if tackling electoral reforms which would ensure a better running of elections (the bedrock of a democracy) isn;t extremely urgent now, when would it be? When will he get to it?

The part of your post I highlighted in bold simply sums up your post and what I was saying in the first place. Yar Adua would have made a primary school student look good, so such comparisons do not buffer your alleged points and are not flattering. You keep saying he is in "overdrive", and all you have to back it up with is setting up of committees in two days? Considering he was in government all these years and he had the backing of the legislature since last week, if he hadn't at least done something I guess he would still be riding high in your estimation, right? Please stop praising Johnathan for not being Yar Adua or for not being a tyrant. Have some standards for crying out loud.

I understand that after three years of Yar Adua anything would look like progress but please, Johnathan is working but he is not on overdrive abeg, so no need to use such words as "overdrive" to whip up sentiment. This sort of news is getting stale. Bearing in mind that this is working on a federal level and not running some backyard pure water operation, the fact that someone would think having a committee set up with a properly defined outline and appointing people who actually know the field is "working on overdrive", really is a sign of the times. There is so much to be done and he still hasn't addressed electoral reforms and a host of other issues. When he begins to do some serious multi tasking on the overbearing issues, then you can use the word "overdrive". For now he appears to be doing something.

The acting president has been going around making speeches on different issues. I personally can't wait till we actually begin to see some action and measurable progress. He hasn't got four years, he has about one till the current term is up. Electoral reforms, Freedom of Information Bill, Corruption, some progress in the power sector. The position he is in is one of fantasy whereby friends always joke and say, "if you had just one day to be president of Nigeria, what would you do" - then of course you hear people speak of what they think is the most urgent thing to tackle that would make the most difference. This is not fantasy, this is real life and Johnathan has a real opportunity. Sure it would sound impatient, but he should please get to work already because this is now his Nigeria and anything that goes bad from here on is not Yar Adua's problem, but his. Take the bull by the horn and get something done. Good intentions don't automatically translate to progress and development. I don't understand why he is not already working with the legislature and prominent citizens to push through for some major bills that have been stalled for so long.

abubaka:
@all,

a friend of mine who is one of turai's aides confided in me that as of yesternight,yar'adua is still inside that same ambulance that brought him home from the airport and is still in coma.
He equally told me that both turai and her cohorts knows that the game is almost up and they will use the last minute remaining for them to prepare a soft landing place,cos they kno they re not going back to the seat of power again.

I PITY TURAI,COS HER HUSBAND WLD NOT BE AROUND WHEN THE BUBBLE WILL BURST,

All these stories from sources. I am yet to be convinced that the man is actually in Nigeria. Simply put, people are not serious about getting to the heart of the matter. Who has actually seen the man in question apart from Turai? Has Johnathan seen him? All this is nonsense and I should really stop reading this trash news of Turai refusing to come downstairs and Johnathan refusing to see Turai. All childish and it seems people are happy with it because it is some trashy gossip to wake up in the morning and read and pontificate about with an air of pretensious lament. We are not making a soap opera, we are supposed to be running a country. That we includes you and I. Yar Adua being alive or not is completely inconsequential when we actually take into account the genuine development and progress of the nation; it has been made abundantly clear that he is not fit (for whatever reasons) to lead. Contact your reps and senators and let us get past all this rubbish. Impeachment proceeding should be brought into the discussion, not when we will finally see Yar Adua or "what Turai does next". This is not running a market for peace sake. Some people lost their lives along a highway because armed men exploited the well known and even celebrated insecurity in the nation brought about directly or indirectly as a result of bad governance, and people are happy discussing Turai? Una no get shame? When will we wake up?

http://www.nassnig.org/senate/members.php       - for senators

http://www.nassnig.org/house/members.php        - for house of rep members

montelik:
It is time for a 2nd amendment in this country. Since the government and police refuse to protect us. Let everyone carry their own weapon to protect themselves and turn it all into survival of the fittest. Why should somebody be so evil and inhumane that after taking all your possessions, still take your life in the worst way imaginable. It just go to show that absolute power corrupts absolutely. When people can do this sort of thing to his fellow citizens and kinsmen, not out of anger or rage but cool calculated and deliberated intent, you know that something is fundamentally wrong with the state of the some Nigerians minds. God will give those affected by this tragedy strength and peace.   

Day by day that arguement begins to make more sense, especially when you here stories of robbers who even announce that they are coming in advance, and carry out their "operations" undisturbed for hours while people wait for their turn to be robbed on their streets. It is the ladies I really do feel sorry for, with rape and all.

Our politics is really so small minded, selfish, obtreperous and a joke. Other countries are discussing how to regulate the market, control inflation, stimulate growth of industries and hence decrease unemployment, etc; and what have we been discussing? Who refused to see who? Last year the senate and the lower house were at logger heads, why? Because they couldn't agree on whether they should host a join session of both houses in the senate building or in the house of rep building. That is how complex our sociopolitical discourse ever gets. To think people are dying of poverty and many youths are wandering the streets jobless, while at the top people are arguing about whether Turai was meant to meet Johnathan or Johnathan was meant to meet Turai; really is disgusting. Unfortunately the people who are meant to get angry at this and get involved in the socio political sphere of governance (the youths) seem to be as docile as ever. This has all become as trashy and tasteless as a soap opera.

To think the country's leadership is in limbo because Turai refused to come downstairs. CHEI LOOOOOOOL. You just really have to laugh. How ridiculous this all is. And people are supposed to take the country serious?

Ibime:
The statement "Yar'Adua must die" is not a wish. . . the OP is just stating that Yara must die (in public domain) for Naija to move forward. . . infact, we should all know that Yara is already dead, or at best in an Ariel-Sharon state of consciousness.

Yara was a decent guy. . . possibly had the potential to be a decent president (in comparison). . . but lack of health hampered his regime.

Enough of these excuses please. What did the guy do when he was relatively healthy? He knew he had a problem with illness beforehand and still took the job, thinking it would be like ruling Katsina when he would leave for months for treatment. He was not forced to become president. He refused to sack an AGF that seemed to stifle progress in the anti-corruption crusade at every turn. He hesitated in adopting the Uwais report, he appointed Sam Egwu as Minister of Education and gave Dora Minister for Information, he has not made any considerable progress in any of his agendas, and in his warped reasoning thought a credible solution to the Niger Delta issue was creating more bureacracy epitomised by the creation of "Ministry of Niger Delta". Abeg, these excuses of "Yara was a decent guy" are getting a tad irritating. The proof is in the pudding, or are we all going to claim collective amnesia?

jesu seun:
1, I WILL[b] focus on human capital development instead of infrastructural dev.[/b]if the pple are develop,they will develop the infrastructure,reverse is what is happening now.

2, Education will take like 20% of the budget.

The two go hand in hand. Improved infrastructure makes human capital development easier and more efficient. Or do you expect individual citizens to build roads, airports, provide power, etc when they have become "educated" and armed with the required skills?

I don't know why there is always a tendency to pursue a faceless abstraction. The house of assembly is supposed to represent a democratic body. Until we are able to know who voted for what, all this "the house did this and the house did that" might as well be blowing dust into the wind. We cannot keep relying on voice voting because it takes away accountability from each member of the house. A discussion with a member of the house of rep proved enlightening, because he said someone could go up and give an amazing speech about how he is opposed to something, but at the end of the day it is down to voting which then boils down to "yay" and "nay", and then the speaker of the house using his 'judgement' to decide which was louder. There are some fundamental things that need to be eliminated and voice voting is one of them so we the individual reps that are holding things back and know whether our reps are representing us. "the house did this, the house is corrupt, the house decided that". . . . . . . . all blowing dust in the wind. Who is the house? We need to know the individuals. You can petition your rep by using the following links below that contain contact info, get pro active:

http://www.nassnig.org/senate/members.php - for senators

http://www.nassnig.org/house/members.php - for house of rep members

Bola is in Nigeria right now. One of the major things we wanted to do was establish contacts with the youth. Hence, Bola had a live interview on UNILAG FM (I just spoke with her not too long ago so I will relay). One of the projects we have been trying to get of the ground is the idea of "a school at a time". Picking up a school as a project, and working on it. Whether it is helping with the renovation or building of classrooms, or providing books, or software, or compunters, whatever we can. So Bola talked about that and other projects we were also working on. The site was having some problems today, but it is being worked on right now and hopefully the issues would be resolved by the end of today, hence making sending mass emails to members through the forum a bit of a problem. For those in Nigeria, there might be a meeting on Saturday with Bola who would be in Lagos.

This is a Nigerian thing and not a Lagos thing by the way. If you want to get in conact with Bola, you can call or send her a text at 0803 533 1839 and if possible, a meeting would be set up. She is leaving on Sunday.

Rest assured, we are determined to do what we can, and all are welcome.

otawa:
Her husband is the executive President of Nigeria.

She can refuse access to anyone to see him.

She can pass any message to anyone and says it is from her husband.

That is why when you voting for President, you are also voting for the WIFE!

They are called 'First Family'

Unless you are joking and being sarcastic, I implore you; please stop embarassing yourself.

The president is not just any citizen, he is the number one citizen. Turai was not on the PDP ballot, Yar Adua and Johnathan were. "First Family", is not empowered to wade into executive affairs by the constitution because Yar Adua, and not his family appeared on the ballot. This is not running Mile one market, this is running the country; hence not a case of waiting for 'Mama Yar Adua' to come and tell the country what has husband says. Please stop spreading such outright misinformation unless you can back it up.

Had contacted mine earlier in the year, but will try to do so again about the particular matter of impeachment before the week runs out.

At the end of the day action is what is called for no matter how small, instead of leaving rants on internet forums and assuming they will automatically take human form and perform your basic duty as a citizen for you. Contacting our legislative representatives and senators en masse and pressing them on this issue could acually create pressure on them to do the right thing, its as simple as picking up the phone or writing an email (no need to be insulting). But considering the lethargic, ever-hopeful but never-ready-to-act mentality that seems to plague the citizenry, I would not hold my breath. I expect a lot of people to post a million and one reasons why they can't do this simple thing, ranging from "what difference would it make", to other such absurdities in order continue the trend of passing the buck. I can only do my own part.

vigasimple:
Wonder shall not end.

When did Turai becomes a doctor? what are they hiding with a sitting President? The man is not a private citizen but a public servant.

Shame on our lawmakers. Shame on Nigerians that allows this nonsense to happen to us.

When I say that YAR A'DOUBTFUL treat Nigerians with contempt, I mean real contempt. BUT I will now add, unless the man gives live interview within the next 24 hours he should be declared incapacitated or best for the country IMPEACHED.

Unfortunately shouting online would probably not achieve anything. Save your energy and put it to more productive use. Everyone should call their reps and senators and ask what is delaying the impeachment proceedings and how long the charade would last. Call the legislature to order.


http://www.nassnig.org/senate/members.php - for senators

http://www.nassnig.org/house/members.php - for house of rep members

hrworld:
Obasanjo not only intimidated Atiku.  He withdrawn securities attached to him.  He wasn,t allowed to use presidential plane.  He had to travelled with chartered plan.  Infact nobody respected him at the FEC level.  Haba. If not for this man's illness, Yaradua is not a bad person I beg.  What happen between Obasanjo and Atiku then was a power tussle.

What did he do when he was relatively healthy? I bet the illness also affected his sense of reasoning when he took the following decisions: appointment of Dora as Minsister of Information as opposed to a portfolio more befitting of her more obvious skills, refusal to remove Aoondoaka and Iwu but replacement of Ribadu, delay in fully implementing Uwais report because he was not happy with taking the power to appoint head of INEC from the presidency, creation of Ministry of Niger Delta as a means of "solving" the "Niger Delta problem", no visible progress in any of the seven point agenda. Who is the current Minister of Education and what is his back ground? Don't worry, you guys keep arguing whether cancer is worse than aids. That is how we get actually competent leaders, right?

woye77:
people have been saying this but i think i'm begining to believe it, to believe it.Goodluck appears to be a coward or how else do we explain his inability to hold FEC meeting today?

All this misdirected anger. Government is made up of the executive, lagislature and judiciary. Nigerians be proactive for once for crying out loud. Nothing is stopping the house of assembly and senate from impeaching Yar Adua and correcting all the nonsense.

http://www.nassnig.org/senate/members.php - for senators

http://www.nassnig.org/house/members.php - for house of rep members

Links for house or rep members and senators that contains contact numbers and emails. Contact your reps and senators and ask them why they have not proceeded with impeachment proceedings and how long we will carry on like this.

ojesymsym:
Before the infamous acrimony with Atiku, Obasanjo deligated a lot of responsibilty to the office of the VP, thats where Atiku laid his hands on PTDF funds among other things, even in the heat of the quarel, Obj played all forms of tricks but never subcumverted the law nor constitution. He did things like declaring an emergency public holiday on a day a court judgement was to be heard, but when Atiku defeated him in court, he had no option but to put his name on the ballot papers, yet he was not shouting "rule of law" as this mallam is shouting. Case after case Atiku won and Obj grudgely did the bidding of the courts.
Yar dua has a great distain for his VP, this is not the first time he is not handing over to Goodluck, just that this is the most obvious.

Compared to Yar dua, Obasanjo should be called Angel Obasanjo.

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