gentlegiant95: I wouldn't have had a problem of continuing to smash but I'm concerned about my health, she has said different times that she can't let me use a condom on her. I got her to do an sti test after I saw the dirty chats with the guy she says is just a friend, now I want her to do another one after the recent chats I saw of her. I mentioned it to her to run the test and she rebuffed it saying she's clean, doesn't have money and other excuses. I want to bring it up again in the coming week, because salary will be paid, how do I go about it
As a man, always follow and never doubt that gut feeling.
Trouble is staring at you dead on, you're still asking questions
PS: If it's any consolation,most Nigerian girls have multiple partners. Always use protection else few moments can change the rest of your life.
Pukkalolo: In the garden of Eden, the serpent understands this. This was why he didn’t seduce Eve with sweetness or compliments.
He didn’t sell her the fruit: he sold her the illusion of power. He told her: “Eat this… and you’ll be like God.”
He wasn’t flattering her. He was activating something deeper. It was never about the fruit. It was about giving her something to wonder about.
Sometime ago, i pondered upon as to what mark(effect) the serpent left on Eve. I want to believe the serpent truly rubbed off on Eve and her generations.
If you study women,they have a serpentine kinda nature,cunning, jealous,manipulative,proud...and for the most part pushing for a cause aka bringing down who is above them.
In a perfect world, simping would be the norm , however we live in an imperfect world so a man must learn to develop the attributes to defend himself. Female nature is corruptive, probably because they were not created originally hence take the form of whatever entity they find themselves in. The fact they lack a mindset of their own,being easily swayed by lies and rumors says alot.
What is saddening is that modern men are being programmed to function and think in this capacity.
Taking a pint from the relationship between GOD and devil will enlighten a man as to how he must interact with a woman.
SpencerForbes: Last week, I played a prank on my babe by using someone’s else pics to chat her on TikTok. She always leaves my messages unread cos of TikTok. The moment I told her I really like her and I asked her if I could ask her a question. She started narrating her life story to me. Telling me where she lives and where she’s from. Then I told her I want to date her, she asked really?
I played along and asked if she had a boyfriend, she replied yes, somehow😂
I was reasoning if na babe wey I don Dey date Dey reply somehow. Even if she didn’t fall but the win wasn’t convincing enough. The babe just Dey find higher bidder make she monkey branch.
I confronted her and had to give her a pass for that. Some go deny you outrightly like my ex. She told a man in front of me that she doesn’t have a boyfriend that I’m her friend. Since then I stopped trusting that gender.
I’m kind of pitying the girl cos if I react she’s going to hate all guys. She has a good character and is very feminine, she’ll be good for the next generation and she’s earning fair enough. I just don’t understand why the sudden rush to monkey branch. The female mind is really something else. I’ve been expecting it from her due to the lessons I’ve learnt on this thread but I’m still going to give her another chance and if she fails, she’s gone.
Hypergamy doesn't negotiate bro. The earliest you remember that,the saner you'll become.
When a man makes more money,he will wanna stay single(like I mean not committing to a woman).
You weren't redpilled ,you were just broke then.. Cos when you were broke,you would have seen vvomen for who they are...
Did they love you wjen you were broke? Now youve started making money,you've now fallen in love😹..
Your primal desires have overwhelmed your Sense of reasoning 😹..
I think,only experience/hardway makes men to be smart..
Actually,to know a simp or someone capable of being a simp is to ask him if he can love a woman.. If he says YES,then he is capable of being a simp. If he says NO,then he is aware.
Cos I swear,you cant be conversant with female nature and still smile with them✌️
Bro is in one-itis mode . It never gets old😂 Some just hear about the Redpill and want to feel among. Not that they have come to terms with reality. Anyways everyone will be fine one way or the other.
Bro, I became so obsessed with her that she started to treat me like trash. Man, even with my money! She really gave me a hard time. I was so mentally low that it affected my education and my hustle.
I was no longer improving myself; I was regressing financially, my social life was dying, and my game was dead.
I started to see her as the only option I could get.
Then, later, I started to realize this woman was probably running some underground scheme (allegedly). You'd expect me to man up and leave her! Well, I didn’t. In fact, if I mentioned what this girl did to me, with my own money, you guys would all laugh at me.
My other friend, on the other hand, had become so good with women that he was sleeping with them left and right without spending a dime. The good thing was he was always there and preached how I should go back to exploring more.
So, I started to go back to exploring more, but those women were still using me. I wasn’t getting them like I used to; my game was dead, and they all saw me as a pushover.
But my friend, who had gotten so good at the game, started to teach me a thing or two. Then, I came on this thread and learned some things about women's nature. I applied it, and guess what? They were all accurate.
I continued to develop, this time with more red-pill knowledge. Man! I've turned into a bad boy like this! I swear, if you give me 10 girls now, I will mess with their mental state and sleep with 7 of them easily without having to invest much.
Though I now have another girlfriend! What I did was to make sure that girl loves me more than I love her. The girl is so obsessed with me, man! She treats me like a king! No "billing" or anything. I didn't really care for the girl before. But from what I’ve gathered here, go for a woman who loves you more than you love her, like she has genuine desire for you from the start. Well, that’s the case with my new girlfriend.
Also! I’ve improved myself so much that my ex is now obsessed with me. Lol, it’s obvious. In fact, it’s just a matter of time before she slides into my DMs.
What you should understand is… Money is very important because it helps you command respect and maintain your style, especially after a breakup.
But you see that game! Man, if you don’t know the game, women will milk you and dump you.
Bro, chase both game and money! Don’t go for a relationship now; just chase the bag, improve yourself while testing the waters with these women and sharpening your red-pill skills. I know what I’m telling you. Money is necessary but never enough!
Special Thanks to all the mentors here! You’ve saved a brother
It was because you wanted change that's why you embraced the truth and saw things truly as they are.
Simps are not born, they're made into simps,
Most never get to realize the truth, even if they come across it they ignore or push it aside and continue in their delusional state.
I'm glad to hear you found your way back to reality.
Philosopher1979: You are right. Even a Nigerian girl that sleeps around will hide it. She will not want to be seen as a slut. Ubunja even said one has to be quiet about it when you get sexual with a nigerian girl. Girls appreciate it a lot if you get sexual with them but you don't let anyone know or act judgmental. IOn the other hand, the Western world is too tolerant. Society needs a little conservatism to stem the tide of certain excesses. Its gotten to the point where stuff like beastiality, trans genders, lgbtq, even maryong a tree or incest I'd being tolerated or seen as an alternative lifestyle. Those things are not healthy and are psychologically damaging. We should be glad we live in a society where a girl cannot sleep with 50 men and then brag about it and say she feels empowered. At least it makes girls decent enough for marriage even if it is hypocritical. At least it lowers wirish tendencies in women.
Africa ranks high in paternity fraud . Lol there's nothing to be proud about. Women will always be women whether the liberality is there or not.
You sound like you'd rather she cheat at your back than you openly knowing you're dealing with whoore.
Believe me, the latter does not leave you delusional,at you'd know what you're signing up for.
Pukkalolo: The problem isn’t that he’s unqualified to speak on female nature.
The real issue is that many of his redpill “game” messages, along with those of some other guys here, are Westernized and not tailored to African or Nigerian men.
What do I mean by "Westernized"?
Please read open mindedly and slowly. This is will help you understand the reality of seduction or "game" in Nigeria
Most guys study redpill and game concepts written by men in the U.S. and the U.K., then blindly copy-paste them here. Worse, they try applying them to Naija or West African women without realizing that culture matters in seduction.
When I first set out to truly understand women and build my confidence, I approached a large number of them: both in public and within my social circles. And if there’s one thing I can say with certainty, it’s this:
Westernized "game" doesn’t really work here.
Culture and environment shape the way people think and behave—including in seduction. How you attract and seduce a Nigerian woman is different from how you do it with an American woman.
Most guys don’t realize this. That’s why, despite consuming all the redpill and "game" advice, something still isn’t clicking.
America and Nigeria are two different worlds. In America, parents don’t flog their kids because their culture frowns upon it.
In Nigeria, most of us got flogged by our parents while growing up.
That’s culture for you.
Likewise, what works on a London girl won’t necessarily work on an Afghan girl because they were raised differently.
In America, couples openly kiss and make out in public: it’s normal there.
In Nigeria, public displays of affection are rare because our culture doesn’t encourage it. That’s why Western redpill “game” that works on American women won’t necessarily work on Naija women.
I’ve gone sexual with quite a number of Naija girls, so I’m speaking from experience. I know the missing piece in most Naija guys’ “game.” The problem with Westernized game advice is that it’s heavily focused on attraction.
A lot of Naija guys think, “If she’s attracted to me, she’ll sleep with me.”
Well, that might work in America, where an attractive woman might directly sleep with you just because she’s attracted. That’s why typical “game” advice is tailored to Western women.
But Naija girls don’t think that way. At least, not from my personal experience—unless she’s a shameless slut.
Notice the keyword: "shameless."
A lot of Naija girls are sluts, but they aren’t shameless about it. They are low-key. That’s why they won’t act on their attraction and just give a guy sex like that.
Guys have told me, “Pukka, you’re right. This girl seems attracted to me, but she won’t have sex with me.”
My response is:
She’s a Naija girl: she’s ashamed of her attraction for you.
Your job is to make her feel shameless about it. Or more accurately, make her feel sexually comfortable with the idea of sleeping with you. A lot of Naija girls are attracted to you, but they hide it. You might think she’s just doing shakara, but no—she’s just ashamed of her attraction.
Your goal as a man is simple:
Make her feel comfortable being attracted to you or make her feel shameless about it. Most guys don’t do this; or worse, they don’t even know how. So they keep losing girls over and over again, despite consuming all this redpill content.
The few legit players and pimps I know get sex—not because of attraction—but because they understand that attraction alone isn't what get them the pussy.
Some guys who roll with me initially assume that I’m just a natural with women: that I simply get stronger attraction from more women, which is why I sleep with them.
But that’s not true.
I’m not a good-looking guy, so I don’t rely on attraction. Instead, when I meet a girl with even the tiny attraction toward me, I build on that.
I make her feel shameless about her attraction and create a sense of comfort around sex. Because I know that her shamelessness and comfort toward sex—not attraction—is what’s going to get me laid. Basically, I know how to give off a non-judgmental vibe around women.
The Harsh Truth About Attraction in Nigeria
If you’re relying purely on attraction to get laid in Nigeria, you’ll need to approach over 50 to even 100-200 women (or more) before one agrees to sleep with you based solely on attraction. Most Naija women don’t sleep with men just because they’re attracted to them.
That’s why a lot of Naija girls, directly or indirectly, demand money or financial gifts before going sexual. Because that money or gift acts as a substitute for the sexual comfortableness you failed to create in them.
On the other hand, most legit players and pimps often get sex for free—not because they’re rich or good-looking, but because they know how to make a woman feel shameless or comfortable about sleeping with them.
Final Thoughts
At the end of the day, a lot of redpill posts on this thread are just copy-paste material from Western sources.
I can tell that many of the guys posting this stuff don’t have real experience with women. They just regurgitate Western redpill theories without adapting them to their own naija reality.
I agree with you bro. However I must add, fundamentally women function the same way. They operate on the same compass.
While environmental factors would play a part in some regard.
Women would be women,if you know what makes them tick, you'll have your way with them as much as you desire.
I can testify to the game of attraction truly even tho they fantasize about fucking your brains out they'll still want something else out of it(ego) which is caused by environmental factor.
The economy in western countries is subtle enough not to trigger extreme hypergamy in women.
Understanding this dynamic would ensure you go deeper into female psyche when dealing with Nigerian women.
You need to make them feel like they're really really close to you before they'll let out their bad side unless of course they're self proclaimed sluts.
And this is all thanks to culture and religion.
Western women once they like you/attracted it's pretty much down to business,not time to check time.
Everything about the red pill still holds true, how you apply it is what matters. Just know what fits .
Adasun: Have anyone done business with woman before?
Omo, the situation I dey now don enter court matter... I need guidance abeg... She gave me money to help her run a business. Unfortunately the business went south...na livestock business.
Aunty said I must pay her money full which I have source and gave her 1/4 of the money since last week...
She arrange police for me o, and took the matter to court. They have fix date for the hearing...
What I need now is guidance on how to go about it...I never enter police matter before talk less of court. The girl carry the matter like say she no know me o.
Pukkalolo: "What can I gain ‘off’ this girl today, so that if she decides to leave tomorrow, I will feel no loss?"
But the thing is, most guys don’t think this way.
This is why most men take a long time to recover from heartbreak after a painful breakup…because when they look back, they realize how much respect, money, energy, and honor they lost just because they were busy chasing love, affection, and sex from the girl
Very Apt. When you leverage off her, even she would be unwilling to quit the interaction with you. Women don't like to lose their investment, they're not bred the same way men are, to take risk. So when they eventually take such a risk, they'll ensure they get back their investment. In such a state, they'll behave themselves around you,treat you right and go as far as simping for you.
Like you said most guys don't think this way, they're only after what they can give to her which automatically puts them at a disadvantage.
koldrun: I take care of myself by working out, drinking a lot of water, and eating healthy foods. You're old enough to be my mother, fat, eat everything you see, have green stretch marks all over your body, etc. I notice your advances, and let you know through my body language that I can never be interested in you. Then you start acting funny, as though it's by force. Women just can't handle rejection. The bitter ones can go to any length when rejected.
Even without you rejecting them,them knowing they don't stand a chance gets them triggered. They'll go to any length. If they can't have you,no one can
Attraction for women for the most part is psychological.
Women seek strong character attributes from men in order to be attracted to such a man.
The weak man would term a woman as money lovers because they got manipulated and exploited easily with minimal effort
Women don't have the muscle to beat a man into submission, figuratively speaking of course,what they have is the cunning to beat you as a man into submission.
A man in such a state is called a SIMP.
A man who has lost touch with nature,a lost deer being ravaged by merciless wild cats.
If she's not genuinely interested in you,which one concern you as a man,you go your way ,she goes her way. No love lost No passing blame
At this stage,you understand yourself as man who knows there's no gain in dealing with such women. You understand the game,how social preference works.
This understanding makes you stand out from countless men. The conditioning by society nowadays is for men to be submissive to women.
When you go against it,it creates a mystery around you, and yes women love mystery.
Like fish to a bait, they'll come knocking.
Something is always chasing something in this thing we call life.
Chase your purpose,women will chase you. Chase women, who will chase your purpose
The first, you're putting in little or no effort to get women. The second you're maxing out effort to get women... effort you should be directing to something meaningful and productive that'll add value to your life.
Sometimes men are their own undoing. They don't even understand themselves,so they look for the next best thing to blame Women!
We preach genuine desire but please don't mistake it as gaining love from female.
Love and genuine desire are mutually exclusive.
Guys tend to mistake this term because it has to do with feelings.
Understand that everything that has to do with women are surrounded by reasons. Kinda ironic for a gender that seems to throw logic outta the window most times right.
She desires you because you a contributing factor in her life, you serve a purpose. Be it financial or emotional, you're with her for a reason.
Why we preach genuine desire is because if the union doesn't end up working out,the blowback is minimized. You never got to that stage where your investment in her creates a sunk cost fallacy.
Genuine desire keeps you in the safe zone bro. Believe me, you want to always be in that safe zone.
Simping is a curse.
So while you're out there doing your thing, just remember it's genuine desire or nothing.
Stop wasting your time bro, you got better things to worry about.
Man,focus on growth. Leave chasing girls for those small children. Just keep updating yourself about female nature so you don't act like a small pikin while you're on your journey to greatness
Let the women chase you.
You just do you. Abeg hear word,na new year be this
In Nigeria, women have weaponized sex simply because the vast majority of men are simps. I'm talking at least 80% of men. Hence why these hoes are comfortably expressing themselves. On the other hand,it tells that the vast majority of women in Nigeria are of low quality,they lack value. They have very little to add to a man's life. Their way of life is extremely superficial.
Don't take them seriously for the sake of your sanity. Value must match value.
Learn to discern the art of categorizing women , it'll help control the amount of attention you give to them.
Attention is currency, it's the key to a man's world Secure it very well so you don't let in a stray cat.
Simps see marriage as a "I love you forever" kinda shit. Women see marriage as a business proposal She has to settle down with just one guy after years and years of having fun. In her mind, that's her sacrificing a lot for the greater good however for the main time,she terms it as love.
Marriage in itself is a contract,a business dealing between two parties. Problem occurs when you misunderstand the basic concept of marriage and start mixing business with pleasure, involving feelings which almost never ends well.
To the woman: Man do your part, I'll behave myself. To the man: Woman do your part, I'll comply (although for the men ,they most times sacrifice more bcuz they're simps obviously)
Anyways,the analogy is one of a business frame.
The question is why mix love with business?
When you don't meet up her expectations, which is more frequent than not, she'll opt for the next best thing that'll make her feel alive.
If you understand you're signing a contract with a woman,then you won't go wailing about when she shows you shege.
But most men don't get the idea, they've been conditioned to think it's a forever happy ending. The blowback is as tantamount as their level of delusion.
Anyways we'll all be alright one way or the other except the SIMPle guys of course, those guys never learn.
Her circle of friends,the group she hangs out with more often will tell you what you need to know about her. You want to vet her,this is an important factor, DO NOT IGNORE
She can fake her attitude but she cannot fake her friends,her clique.
On the basis of this "dick game", it's good to know how to sex well but please don't make it seem like you're trying to impress her in order to keep her around.
Just do it a way to show that you're simply enjoying yourself because women will term as weak if you're trying to impress her sexually.
Everything is a mindset,you might be great in bed but with a weak mind,she won't linger for too long.
Let her be the one trying to impress you sexually,make it seem like if she doesn't meet up,you have options.
This will keep her on her toes, she'll think more of you instead of less.
Liase with that girl that is feeling you,not with that one that just want to waste your time.
Don't negotiate genuine desire.
The emotions should be coming from her end not from you Bros.
If she's not masculine,she won't feel comfortable being in your weak frame.
And most importantly,don't compromise your standards. If they don't measure up, don't say let me just manage. Doing that might work against you later on. The plan is to up your game,not to diminish it
Say no to transactionship. Why would a normal functioning human being pay another human just to be with them and term it "love/relationship.
You are not in a relationship, you only hired a hooker to keep you company for the time being. Understand the difference. A lot of Nigerian men can't even tell the difference, simply because the abnormal has become the norm.
Pukkalolo: Wrong. You can still be nice, gentle or intelligent and still Bleep lots of pussies.
Using me for example, I am nice towards girls (who are genuinely interested in me). I guess I am a gentle dude: like, I try as much as possible to stay on my lane.
I guess I am still an intelligent dude: at least in school I was killing it with mathematics and physics.
But I don't lack pussies.
We say the nice guy don't get pussy because he's nice. But that's false.
Here's the problem:
When the typical nice guy sees a girl he admires, what does he do?
He lust after her. He fantasize about kissing her. He fantasize about being in a relationship with her. He fantasize about both of them being in love with each other.
But one thing he NEVER does is: he never initiate conversation with her. He never confidently approach her. He only admire from distance. He's probably waiting for chosen signals. Smh🙄
But when the typical bad guy sees a girl he admires, what does he do? He immediately go talk to her. No hesitation.
Being nice isn't really the problem. And being bad or rough isn't the solution.
Most times, Hesitation is the reason the typical nice guy don't get girls. Hesitation leads to masturbation.
Pussy don't care if you're nice or bad.
Pussy only care about guys that don't hesitate. These are the guys that takes masculine actions.
Even with financial success. Money don't care if you're nice, gentle or bad or rough. Money goes to those who don't hesitate: Those who take action.
He who hesitates masturbates.
Interactions with women requires moderation. Never be a push over or yes guy all the time to women. Be kind not nice, there's a difference. Else they'll take you for a mugu. There's no limit to how well a woman will push a man in order to take him out of his frame.
That's why daily dose of the red pill keeps a man's mind sharp and ready to spot any crack in the wall. There's nothing like I'll never simp, anyone can loose guard at any time,any day. Testosterone is a bittch.
Understanding this keeps a man's expectations realistic.
Women are logical in an illogical manner. That is to say the rudimentaries behind their objective is masked in inversion and manipulation. Keeping up with all their whims can be tiring. All you simply need to do is understand why they're interested in you and what they what from you. If you comprehend this basic concept,all their tantrums,shit test and whatnot would be a walk in the park simply because you already know what they're getting at.
A girl giving you green light,red light,purple light even brown sef(undefined signals)clearly shows that she wants to get you invested emotionally in order to capitalize on it. Adding to the fact that their State of mind is always on a constant flux. Understand that if a woman finds you attractive you cannot convince her otherwise . Same applies vise versa. You cannot make her do what she already wants to do. She just wants you to think you convinced her to do it so she doesn't come off as easy.
Thing is most women want to eat their cake and still have it. They want sex constantly but want to be rewarded for it.
The biggest lie ever told is that men are hornier, which has added to the already inflated state of the female sexual dynamic.
Women want sex always, they're are never satisfied.
All in all :
If you want less headache,let them chose you. Simply groom your mind and your appearance to be worthy of attraction.
Karlifate: It's quite funny & annoying watching some dudes throwing their fellow bros(es) under the bus to impress women, especially with the promise of s3x as a reward.
promise ke There's no promise.
These weak effeminate guys are just as delusional as women if not more. They think pulling down another guy earns them extra points. They're the type that'll hate and jealous their fellow man simply because women find him attractive. You know those categories of guys when you pass by ,they give you that funny face Na them be that
luminouz: I detest this like mad and always change it for the men.
You see men talking shiit to you or pulling you down once a woman is around and they say 'but na joke na' and I wonder why I am not fûcking laughing.
How I handle such men? I stare at them fixedly and just walk away, ignoring them and the girl they so desperately want to impress. Guys will snitch on their friends to get pussy or act tough so the girl can say yes.
Most times, the girls always tell me such men disgust them.
These are the simps of the world And very dangerous,be careful around them. They're worse than women.
Genuine men are hard to find these days.
The good thing is that it's too easy to spot these weak effeminate guys. They're so proud of their effeminate nature. In their mind,they know how to roll with women. I personally find them very pitiable because they have no idea what they're in for.
JESHAL007: @CaveAdullam pls I need your advice, we collect gals number whether from social events, cold approaching, placing ourselves where women are in abundance, yet no genuine desire, the chat is boring, Na we dey find ways to make chat interesting, infact we do our bests no to behave thirsty for sex, so that during the chat we appear as if we are trying to know the gal, we call her more, chat her more, create fun more, but no reciprocation, and it's not just one gal, it's almost all the gals we game, is it because of their abundance of options, is it because of our low status, why?
They didn't choose you. They have no desire to find out what kinda guy you are. Naturally,men are more expendable in the dating scene for reasons we've discussed numerously on this thread. Hence,why they treat you like any other guy. They don't desire you but they want your money, your free/cheap attention to validate their worthless existence They don't want you,they need you. Blessed is the guy who knows where a woman has placed him.
A double axed sword They don't want you but they need your money They don't need you but they want your money Everything about a woman centers on how useful a man is to her. Your power lies on what kinda useful you want to be to her.
Note:That same boring girl is falling head over heels for a guy wey no send am.