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@theHomer
if Evolution doesnt explain the origin of life, how can you base your argument on Evolution

can u throw more light on the "Adambeing a nation" thingy

bigd4050: 3) It actually exposes many Christians: there are many Christians that post on this site that really have no idea what they are talking about. When they get destroyed by the atheists and the Christians for making such illogical and stupid statements, it should open their eyes. I have yet to see that on this site, but I have seen it on others. The two big ones I have seen on this site are Rastamouse and Synthsis . They might throw a good point or two out there, but most of their stuff is just garbage that shouldn't be accepted by atheists or Christians.

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at a second glance , bros u no spell my name well nau

thehomer: I understand it well enough to have this discussion. You claimed to have read up on it from the link I presented to you but you showed that you didn't understand it. I need to know what it is that you think you understood to see if I can help you understand it better



I accept the theory of evolution because of the evidence in support of it.

i dont understand the origin of evolution, kindly explain

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Austino2955: Change transmission fluid after every five thouosand mile so as to keep the life of the gear longer, and against tear and wear. That is the proper thing. At this level the fluid is now lighter and lost vescosity after a lot of labour base on the distance. Good luck.

thanks

bigd4050: Stop. This kind of response is what makes Christians look dumb. All you did is insult. There were no logical facts, no nothing. How does a post like this benefit the conversation in any way?

whr is d insult
this thread has been based on logic allthrough, i avoided the use of religion to make my points, so i really dnt get ur ish

thehomer: Looks like you didn't read it well because the theory of evolution doesn't talk about the origin of life. So we can begin by you telling me what you understood from what you read so I can see how to help you correct your wrong ideas.

u r in d best position to explain ur belief/or lack of it. anyways since u state Evolution doent talk about the origin of Life, y do u believe in it as d basis of our existence?

hisblud: if a creature was not self created it implies it was made, it has a Maker , a God.
now if a creature is self Created, then it is a God unto itself. *
i have been following this and the bolded is a good logical argument. Please create a new thread on the above, atheist are not really tearing that argument apart, it looks its a watertight statement.[i][/i][b][/b]

i would try and do that. they 'atheist" know the truth anyways instead they choose to be blind

@OP
i believe the challenge is the environment most young couples are living in(with regards to Nigeria), they are constantly being inundated with african movies/tales/testimonies/gists of how "wicked the Mother-in-Laws are, how quarrelsome the Sister-in_laws are, how beggarly the Brother-in -Laws are etc, so once married they tend to form an invisible hostile barrier/shield between themselves and other family members (did sum1 say "no third party")as such they have become myopic and forgetful that it is a union of two families and not a mutual exclusion.

bored

thehomer: Learning is an active process so you would need to show some signs that you're ready to learn. You can begin by getting some general knowledge from this site.

Please let me know if you have any problems.

read it but as i said i dnt want to misintepret in what u believe- just state the basics of evolution on this thread. the origin of life.

Opoki: Bode George who stole Billions was covicted within the shortest time and now he's out in town while this poor girl was accussed and left to suffer unduly just because of meagre amount of money! I can't imagine all sort of molestation she must have gone through in the last 4yrs from the prison wardens.

lesson learnt- steal big

@OP
you will never get a definite answer, at best they would throw the question back at you and ask for your reasons in believing the existence of an intelligent creator, next step is to for you to proof He exists, afterwhich you have to answer Who made the Intelligent Creator and so on and so forth>>> but the actual poser you asked will never be answered straightforward. and the reason is obvious atheist have no answers.


and in all this, you wonder why the Creator lets these atheist to exist, inspite of the way they mock His name and they dont get struckdown by Fire and Brimstone immediately. i got this Wonderful revelation, which is in relation to a question most atheist often ask the purpose of their existence? and the reason is clear to me, God allows atheist to live in other to test and strenghten the faith of the true believers, He wants a people that truly know Him (personally and not because they were forced to believe- He aint looking for pretenders), so how do you know, that you know Him?,- easy peasy, by passing the first test - atheism.

logicboy: I got some questions myself;

What about the contradictions in the holy books and the fragmented nature of religion;
https://www.nairaland.com/913787/5-things-that-turn-christians

there are lots of "holy books" this thread has nothing to do with religion, just Logic and Common sense.

and i'll visit ur thread later, kinda busy.

Logic Mind: snthesis is a fraud that thinks he's intelligent. it's people like him that drove me from xtianity in the first place. keep it up.


what do you think about the dinosaurs?

you became a christian because of ppl small wonder you got lost bro, Christianity is a personal relationship between You and God, no more no less.

wats ur facination with Dinosaurs anyways my fav is T-rex very badt guy

ea7: guys, using snthesis' logic I can argue that penguins are tv sets.
Sntheis sez: man makes things, therefore man must have been made.
Ea7 sez: penguins are black and white, old tvs are black and white, there fore, penguins are old tvs. TA DAH!!!

have u taken ur drugs today
all i stated is very very plain

if a creature was not self created it implies it was made, it has a Maker , a God.
now if a creature is self Created, then it is a God unto itself.

ea7: @snthesis you are obviously a christian, you opened a thread to@answer questions using logic*.
And refuse to answer questions about your own beleif, typical.
* Normal definitions may not apply here.

typical of Atheist, very confused ppl, one says proof God exist without Religion, yet another says proof God exist with religion

[quote author=Martian: ]Ok, let me take a leap of faith say there is a "God". One "God".

Can you show us how we can know without.
1) Religious texts because we are not religious so those texts are like Harry potter.
2) Religious dogma/doctrine because of the same reasons listed.
3)AnecdoteS. You can't use them because extraordinary stories rquire extraordinary evidence. Unless you have "hard" emprical evidence, don't use them.
4)Personal beliefs are excluded because some of them can be ridiculous and irrational. Besides if you can't prove it, then it's just your personal BS.

Deal?

PS: DON'T QUOTE THE BIBLE AND THEN SAY, "IT'S NOT THE BIBLE, IT'S THE WORD".
SO DON'T QUOTE THE BIBLE OR "THE WORD" OR "THE WAY" OR "BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH" OR "ANYOTHERFUCKINGNAMEYOUCANCOMEUPWITH"[/quote]

thehomer: Your question is irrelevant. Now that you know who Ganesha is, do you accept Ganesha?

definitely if Ganesha is the name of the God that made you,the heavens and the earth(everything under, on and above).

thehomer: Are you ready to do some serious reading?



On evolution, are you also ready to do some reading? I'm not here to simply hand out lectures, I'm here to encourage you to learn and think about these basic concepts.

go on, i await

Logic Mind: I thought you answer questions, not ask them.

i do, but it has to be related to the thread.
how does the existence/non existence of dinosaurs dispute the existence of God?

Logic Mind: snthesis, how do you explain the dinosaurs?
how does this tie in with creation story?

creation story
dinosaurs

now how does it affect the belief in God

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when is the right time/distance to change a car's Automatic Transmission fluid. i checked online and found out conflicting suggestions, one states that its safer not to change it at all, while another other opinion states you should change at regular intervals. which of the suggestions is valid in preventing damage to the gear box.

its easy to convert to automatic- just hire a driver

i just realized that i have been marginalized

Kay 17: LOL!! Thanks for the latin lecture, next time I would mention "creating creatio ex nihilo".

Creation could be read as new form, and in this sense with the origin of everything: it could only mean emerging existence. Which implies creation ex nihilo or ex deo. Which is it?

think you have lost d plot

Kay 17: and I have clearly told you that creation suggests creating ex nihilo. Thus neither god nor man creates

all4naija: So, how were you created?

smh, i asked the question, if you dont have an idea on how you were created say it CLEARLY, dont be shy of ur ignorance

thehomer: Ganesha is the name of a God.

cool, so you believe in your god Ganesha?

thehomer: What is the irony? I hope you know that there is evidence for the electron but none for your God.

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interesting, please show me.

thehomer: No it wasn't created, it evolved like other organisms. It isn't that I find that idea difficult to understand, I simply find it incoherent.

you keep hiding behind evolution, and yet you fail the explain the fundamental concept of evolution to me. i await enlighten me on evolution.

[quote author=emöfine2]So God offloaded "his" burden on "his" precious creations because Adam and Eve were clearly capable of handling this devious creature in their childlike innocence?[/quote]"childlike innocence" u r such a romantic

[quote author=emöfine2]Let’s not even stop there.

This God also placed a prohibited tree in the midst of the Garden of Eden under the curious gaze and care of his model creations.
So in this alleged utopia there is an enemy of God and a forbidden item – I wonder what could possibly happen if you combine the two.
Let’s not forget there’s also the serpent.
So in this supposedly perfect habitat there is a “subtil” creature? How does a creature with less than perfect intentions manage to get a pass in an alleged perfect realm?

Thus far in the scene we have two innocent most prized creations of God. A vengeful enemy of God. A cunning character in the form of a serpent. And last but not least, an attractive prohibited tree.

Are not the events to happen thereafter undoubtedly the most predictable?

Surely anybody could have guessed what would happen next talkless of God. Well of course God knew, that’s why he had salvation on standby from the very beginning.

Does this not appear as a set up? Is it not possible that such events was engineered by the master creator?[/quote]very good storyline - funny enuf the story of Adam and Eve is a typical love story -have u eva being in Love?, one of the attributes of Love is Trust, basically u trust the one you Love not to hurt you by betraying that trust,now if perchance the one you Love betrays you by cheating, whose fault is that

how do you show you trust sum1- easy by giving that sum1 responsibility- God gave us the responsibility of choosing our fate -, he gave us "freewill" and it came with a warning "do not eat of this tree else you will die" it was never a setup, it was a test of Love, and the outcome was never inevitable (funny enough if you look back the probability of man passing that test was alot higher -which was easier Obeying your Maker whom you had regular fellowship or obeying a lowly creature). i.e Does Man Love Me, His Father by keeping My commandment? He trusted us enough to believe we wouldnt put Him to shame, in-spite of all this He still provided a means for reconciliation.

stop putting the Blame on God, the Blame lies squarely on Man. Satan Never forced Man to eat of the tree, He didnt have Power over Man. "to whom much is given, much is expected"

Kay 17: and I have clearly told you that creation suggests creating ex nihilo. Thus neither god nor man creates

dis atheist with dia big big grammer ex nihilo - choi!!!
anywayd seems most of you are half baked- u only read one part without completing the sentence - the complete phrase is "creatio ex nihilo " which mean creating out of nothing, and this implies that it is a form of Creation, not the total definition of Creation. a lil more research and guess what i found "creatio ex materia" - (creation out of existing material) "creatio ex deo" (creation out of the being of God)

Logic Mind: was she a good phuck?

not as good as

[quote author=emöfine2]First let me make it known that I’m not an “atheist” so I hope this thread is not exclusive to atheists.

Secondly I’m not after “proof” supporting the legitimacy of the biblical god.

I’m only here because of my curiosity and there was a certain thing that I hoped the arrogant author of this thread could help me understand.


After the fall out with Lucifer, God banishes this villain from heaven and places this dangerous anti-hero on the same plane as his beloved creations – Adam and Eve – thereby exposing them to a potential threat. If God couldn’t abide in the same abode with Lucifer because of his treachery, surely his creations may not have wanted to host God’s antithesis either.
Whats more, if Lucifer had beef with God and was banished from heaven what better way to attack god but through his creations. What type of loving parent will kick out an adversary from their presence and dump them in the same space as their innocent child?[/quote]although u are derailing my thread - i'll try to answer u.

firstly, man was made higher than Angels which also applies to demons/satan etc.
secondly, God will not give us a challenge more than we can handle.
thirdly, God didnt fail Man, Man failed Man- Man was never overcome by Lucifer rather we let ourselves down each time we fall into temptation.

ea7: except, we d not tell the pots we love them. and pots are not alive. unless you smokin one.

pots are not alive cos Man isnt knowledgeable to Create Life as we know it

and yes a potter shows how much he loves the pot by the effort he puts into the "creation" of the Pot, the less work the less love it has for it, d more "intricate" d design, the more love, care he has for it.

learn to appreciate yourself- God put in alot of work