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i'm definitely goin with Muna

the problems in Nigeria are all artificially induced to benefit a group of people, only if a strongwilled government can break the holds of these powerful individuals in POWER, TRANSPORTATION, PETROLEUM SECTORS.

will d northern cabal that originally destroyed the rail system allow this to happen

propaganda

sharkins: my candid opinion...
proud, arrogant, hoity-toity peacock that's her personality.

chei!! i'm in loff, abeg can u hook me up!!!

booqee: has introducing FB reduced corruption, solved d problem of insecurity, provided an increased power supply?? Or has it helped in eradicating poverty?? So plssss, don't tell me that introducing fb is one major landmark like dat!
Besides, whether he introduced it or not, its soo inevitable and unavoidable dat fb was still gonna find its way into nigeria. So pls pls plssss, dat one is nufin!

so we do have blondes in nigeria

balogunsam: omg..ur so fiine...i'm so following u ryt away...twitter tho. Instagram later.

me sef go follow chizom
chizom follow me back to my house

logicboy: The next step is to my country more atheist. Spread it like a virus. If 1 person can be converted by me in to an atheist, he or she can convert 2 more, 2 more can convert 4 more and so one. Read about memetics.

evangelical atheism

bump

is it now safe to eat here

Maximus85: YOU SAID THE LORD OR JEHOVAH. That is very wrong. Lord is just a title and not a name. So any bible that replaces God's name JEHOVAH with lord should be critisised.

funny enough, this applies to some modern "christian songs" all you get to hear is "Lord", "Redeemer" "Savior" etc, but the name of God isn't mentioned within the lyrics, and these titles used in this so called "christian " songs could be attributed to any religion.

what happens when she cheats on herself? who gets to sleep on the couch

dat's a certified Madt woman out there

Kay 17: Because sthnesis insists God didn't always exist, and that he was caused at a particular time.

abeg wen did i say that

yummy

im hungry

[quote author=Missy_B]Thank you, darling. The feeling is mutual. 

So Snthesis is the only civilized man in this kitchen? Y'all nor sabi buy flower for a lady? [/quote]

Kay 17: No, it shows a futility of the God "Creator" argument. An effect cannot preexist its cause.

that brings us to the second line in the premise

B. now if a creature is self Created, then it is a God unto itself"

Kay 17: That's absurd! Who isn't who is he?!

didnt expect u to understand

time is relative to d specie in question- we "humans decided/agreed to number our days by the environmental conditions -d physical i.e sunset/sunrise, seasons. To another intelligent specie- d measure of time will be different

Logic Mind: In Genesis 3: 14, god cursed the snake and said "you will crawl on your belly..."

Were snakes walking or flying before this?

basically, what is ur point?

Kay 17: I think both flow together. A God is a self caused being thus lord over it, whereas any thing that has an external influence is not God.

However God is an absurdity as long as self caused are.

which brings us to the futility of Atheism - since we agree that Humans have an external influence in its creation- it implies Atheism has no Basis.
the real debate should never have being if a God existed rather it should have being on Who is our creator, our God.

Kay 17: With your principle in mind, and on the object God, what external force created him?

His God "I AM THAT I AM"

Logic Mind: so tell us who created egg.

God

why do you have to pay to join
and you keep paying to learn more
and why are the teachings secret
is there sumtin to hide

Acts 19:19
New International Version
A number who had practiced sorcery brought their scrolls together and burned them publicly. When they calculated the value of the scrolls, the total came to fifty thousand drachmas

AlvinPlantinga: You do realise you are not doing yourself any favours and you are actually supporting the argument? the egg and the universe share the properties of finitude and contigency.

now that your premise has been broken down to sumtin we d "lay" ppl can relate with i.e egg and chicken.

it brings to fore that an external force is required to create an object- that external force is God to the created object. in simple terms if a creature/object/specie had no command of its coming into existence it implies succintly that the creature/object/specie has a Maker, a God.

Logic Mind: yes, because the argument proves the inexistence of god.

actually ur argument proves the existence of God

Logic Mind: The Egg either:

1.Always existed

or

2.Came into existence.

Since 1 is demonstrably false both scientifically ( eggs rot if unfetilized after a few weeks) and philosophically ( eggs always get laid by some animal, then it follows that 2 is the only option.

If the egg came into existence, then did it cause itself to come into existence or something caused it to come into existence?

It does not make sense to say the egg caused itself to come into existence since it implies, that the egg existed before it existed.For something to cause anything, it has to exist in the first place.It defies all logic.

You could say that a chicken could have brought our egg into existence.but this does not solve our problem.We could as wel ask, did the chicken cause itself to exist?

used a 306 for a while (up for sale at the moment) i must admit that the car is rugged, fuel efficient and of course it gives you the respect of a govt official .

the only challenge with Peugeot cars are the mechanics- we have alot of clueless ones that are just interested in making money off the car owner.
another challenge i had with the car was the alternator/power steering belt- kept changing it every two months until i finally got an original belt.

i'm Back (i apologize for the silence but had to resolve some issues)--- wat's popping!!!

interesting!!!
no reasonable counter premise!!!
conclusion
Atheist know God exist they only choose not to acknowledge His existence

i eat more when im hungry/happy and less wen d plate is empty/sad

game over- Torres scores another hattrick

drivermatic

thanks for d replies guys.

my friend actually changed his ATF for a rodeo jeep- unfortunately his mechanics did a bad job and he ended up buying a new gear box.

[quote author=mr_man]Her period is 3days late. i hope she's not pregnant.[/quote]CONGRATULATIONS!!! INVITE FOR D NAMING IN 9MONTHS TIME