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Letting me see this beautiful day...

The5DME:
What facts?

What did he write ?

Who saw him?

Why are there no record of him in first century correspondence?

elated177:
Can you explain how flesh and blood came out of dust of the earth?

It is rude to answer a question with a question...

MaxInDHouse:
LIES!
According to Exodus 20 1-4 God has no form so Israelites are never to imagine any form of image for God!

That's why you accepted Jezus as Messiah....

elated177:
What made me a slave, sonmvayina? Do explain.

How am I brainwashed? Kowatiate.

Mention the absurdities that I am holding on to.

Sonmvayina, I am of a royal priesthood. How can I be a slave? It is not possible.

Explain how a woman became pregnant without a man's sperm.

MaxInDHouse:
And people always makes images of them and bow to them! Exodus 20:4-5

I am talking about the yorubas..

You seem lost, stay focused..

MaxInDHouse:
LIES!
The Israelites never had any dealings with an idol when God brought them out of Egypt, all the laws given to them were to make them different from all other races on planet earth. That's why the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob referred to them as His people! Exodus 5:1 compare to 19:5

I guess you brought the propaganda hook, line and sinker...
I did not....I don't worship a God' that does not look like me..

elated177:
With all what you have filled your mind, it will not be easy for you to understand the Truth. I doubt if you haven't confused yourself completely.

Yahushua the Messiah, the Salvation of YHVH Almighty, will help you if you turn to him for deliverance.

You are just a brainwashed slave holding on to absurdities....

Goodluck ..

MaxInDHouse:
But the real teachers of REINCARNATION always include Nirvana!
So you totally confused!

Well the idea might be same but the nomenclature might be different...have you ever thought of that. ?

God allows us to have different go at life before we become like him...that is the purpose anyway.

At the end, everyone will be saved
The idea of hell is absurd.

MaxInDHouse:
There's no ifá mythology that speaks against:
Making of images~ Exodus 20:4
Bowing to images~ Exodus 20:5
Nothing like Sabbath~ Exodus 20:8

So it has nothing to do with TORAH!

Well there are some days you don't go to markets isn't it?
The yorubas where not even doing those things. So there was no warning for them concerning that...the jews where doing that for Moloc and the so called queen of heaven....

MaxInDHouse:
In Yorùbá culture there are many many as in so many gods!

Yes..they are called orishas...they represent the laws and principles of life and nature...

MaxInDHouse:
Is this included in the Torah?
That's why it's impossible for people to have the same line of thought regarding God without Jesus of Nazareth! John 17:20-23

If each person should say exactly what he feels in his heart just as you're saying right now then the arguments will be endless. Even those you thought are on the same page with you will abuse, insult and even curse you.
The only thing that rings in your head along with theirs is to negate the idea that Jesus is the Christ, apart from that all of you can't have the same line of thought regarding what God wants! Luke 11:23

I said "in paganism "...don't play dumb.

MaxInDHouse:
It's a lie, the true God only introduced himself to Abraham and his descendants that's why you keep harmering on the TORAH!

Lol...well it is same thing as our omenani...

So I am safe..

MaxInDHouse:
I am from the family of Ifa priests so i can tell you confidently that ifá has nothing to do the laws written in the Bible book of Exodus.
So stop deceiving yourself!

Lol..then you don't know anything about it...

MaxInDHouse:
Only if you will not mention anything about the Eastern culture because if you do then Nirvana must be inclusive, in the absence of the Nirvana it simply means you're just a confused person!

Lol..every culture believes in reincarnation in some form....

Let me make my self clear, just in case.

I have always maintained that it is always about God's laws and statutes. The babylonian had it

The egyptian had it
The yorubas had it, in fact it is the basis of the ifa religion

The igbos have it. It is the foundation of their omenani or omenala. The Law was given to all of humanity.

The jews wrote it down and called it the Torah. It was given to mankind to enable us live in peace..( and reduce chaos) .
When the romans became world power , they took it . Because the emperor at that time ( Constantine) wanted a single one world religion he created Christianity and added their scriptures at the back of the Jewish tanakh to make it sellable to human being. They know the tanakh was inspired. They took the Jewish idea of a Messiah and created a ridiculous story out of it and sold it to mankind. This is what emperor Julian said in his book " against the galileans"


" it is, I think, expedient to set forth to all mankind the reasons by which I was convinced that the fabrication of the Galilaeans is a fiction of men composed by wickedness. Though it has in it nothing divine, by making full use of that part of the soul which loves fable and is childish and foolish, it has induced men to believe that the monstrous tale is truth. "

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Against_the_Galileans

They have killed millions of people just to propagate the lies..even trying to exterminate the jews. But they have always been a raminant who survives..


I am not Jewish, my only concern is to show that Christianity is just rebranded paganism.

MaxInDHouse:
So why must it be that it's that of the Jews we must all wait for enlightenment and not the Ọọ̀ni, Aláàfin, Ọwá-Obòkun, Aláké, Awùjalẹ̀, Ṣọ̀ún, Ajerò or any other king from my own race?

Because they think only them have the knowledge of God.

It is all propaganda.

MaxInDHouse:
Devil is the same as Satan meaning you don't even know the real identify of the person you want to talk about!

Lol...funny you. You don't really know anything.

Satan is different from devil and different from lucifer..

In paganism , they represent 3 different laws and principles. Satan is the god of the air or wind.
Devil is the god of darkness

Lucifer is the goddess of death and love. I think the toruba know her as osun.

hupernikao:
Which of the control button was pressed by this God in Gen 6 that made him grieve Sir since he controls all things. Or he controls things so that he can be sad arimes. Right?

Lol....
That is just the words of the writter....

MaxInDHouse:
So why talking to me about the Torah since i am not an Israelite?

It is same thing as the Yoruba Ifa tradition..if you can lay your hands on it and get a good ifa preist to teach you. No wahala. God's laws are universal. But the most available one is the Torah.. that is why I always mention it..

So you get the idea..

MaxInDHouse:
There's no reincarnation without Nirvana!

Go to my thread on reincarnation...

Thanks

Jman24:
Hahahaha
Max Max, trying to using reverse psychology to massage his ego and avoid response to facts accordingly.
So if I believe that the Messiah is youruba, would you believe me?

Messiah just means "anointed king" nothing more..

I believe the yorubas just had one

"Tbe olubadan "...

MaxInDHouse:
The funniest commentator on Nairaland!
Someone always talking about reincarnation, babylonian methodology and so on but wants to deny Nirvana!
Is it not through believers in reincarnation that we all heard about Nirvana?

Not me..

I have a thread on reincarnation...go back to it for clarification...

budaatum:
Well, I guess that is according to your own understanding. Some of us happen to know that humans have been becoming Gods from the very beginning of time. The Pharaohs, for instance, were great Gods in their time, as Amujale could teach you if you care to know. You would find it in the Old Testament too if you care to look to understand, and in case you did not understand it from there, Christ, knowing how important that simple knowledge is and its implications, reminded those who read about him too.

Jehova is a Hebrew invention and has everything to do with God, as do the even earlier "Gods" created by Romans, along with Ogun and Sango and Allah and Shiva. A smart person might wonder why humans create Gods.

Jesus would have to exist first, don't you think so?

God is just a fancy world for the universe .....lol.

This is marduk, with the universe as his garments...

MaxInDHouse:
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Sonmvayina!
Now i know you're a compound liar, please go and sleep!

Show me the post I used that word. Let people know who is the liar between us...

MaxInDHouse:
Hen nah, in the hearts of JEWS! JEWS!! JEWS!!!
Not people of other nations!

Yes..it had got nothing to do with other nations. Can't you read ?

elated177:
What was your response when I called budaatum's teaching occultic?

Having a discussion with you is always something else. This is because you are always all over the place. You mean the Babylonians worshipped the true God? Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon or another Babylon? You have to choose one.

Again, "chukwu" is a title and not a name.

The one true God revealed himself to Abraham. From his Scriptures, we know what he expects from his worshippers and how to go to him. Any other god that doesn't have these, cannot be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as recorded in the Scriptures.
[b]
Do you think our ancestors, prior to the coming of the missionaries, worshipped the [/b]Creator?

YES ...that is what I have been singing from the top of my voice.

The Hebrew Bible was written by the jews for the jews. For their official religion called Judaism.
Thei yoruba also wrote or passed the knowledge of their own religion from generation to generation. Same as the igbos.
I wonder why you are using the Hebrew one as a yardstick for all of humanity.
They all worship the creator. There is only one God and creator of the universe.
The only difference is how people approach him and the nomenclature..

Marduk is the creator of heaven and earth according to the Babylonians. He is the lord God of the old testament..(check the enuma Elish) .

It was him who asked Nebuchadnezzar to bring everyone to Babylon to learn about him.

One of the most terrifying experiences Christianity exploits is the fear of Satan, his demons, and potentially being left behind in the rapture. Accounts of possession have been recorded in several religions, but alternate explanations range from issues within the subconscious and repressed guilt to hallucinations. ​Without the fear of hell, the great tribulation, and Satan, the New Testament does not have much to keep people locked into its rat race of tithing, being walked all over, and being told how and what to think.

No one in the Tanakh speaks of demons, and God never says he gives his power to Satan. In the book of Jōb, God grants temporary authority to Satan to test Jōb as a quality inspector, but he is not given carte blanche power to run ram shod through the earth. For a short amount of time, he is allowed some reign within the sphere of Jōb’s life. ​Several signs found within the Hebrew Scriptures support the fact that what we are told in the New Testament is not reliable as a truthful resource.
The Tanakh states that it is God who plants the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It is God who sends evil spirits to Saul. It is God who sends an evil spirit between Abimelech and Shechem. It is God who creates the darkness, who speaks evil, who kills, who confuses the languages at the Tower of Babel, who causes King Nebuchadnezzar to go crazy for seven years, and it is God who tested man. God even frames evil against the disobedient. Everything in the earth is said to belong to God——and not scripture in the Tanakh claims of God giving Satan any authority or rule over the earth. Even though the New Testament makes the claim, the New Testament narrative cannot prove itself true.

God planted the garden and the tree: good and evil
Genesis 2:8-9
God sends an evil spirit to King Saul 1 Samuel 16:14-15
God sends an evil spirit between Abimelech & Shechem
Judges 9:23
God created darkness
and created evil
Isaiah 45:5-7
God speaks both evil and good Lamentations 3:38
God kills and God wounds Deuteronomy 32:39
God confused the languages at Babel Genesis 11:7-9
God causes Nebuchadnezzar to go crazy
Daniel 4:32-34
God tests you
Deuteronomy 13:3

MaxInDHouse:
So Nirvana is not even the ultimate!

What does that mean ? I have never used that word..

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is the evidence that you don't understand what the scripture says!

Because if the highlighted is exactly the way you want to interpret it, then why can't you wait until God writes it in the hearts of everybody in the world? Why are you here saying you want to stop people from believing what they know?
Why not allow this your god to write it in people's hearts?

I can quote the laws of my God for you with efficacy today because Jesus' real disciples came to my house and taught me and it all stick to my hearts as if it's written there, but you're saying your own god will come and write it in people's hearts without anyone preaching or teaching them.

Who is this your god?
You want to say it's the Jewish God and where you're quoting says this God will write His laws only in the hearts of His own people (Jews)


You're really funny you know!

Read verse 33...


See, you are just trying so hard to be dumb.

You are the one who gave Ezekiel 31:31-34..

Read verse 33. God said he is going to pit his laws in their mind.

He never said he was sending his son as sin sacrifice...haba

budaatum:
........= Jesus Christ, to some.

I guess the question you need to first consider is, What is God, but we don't before we start adding and subtracting from what has not been established (at least a common understanding hasn't), and then we argue that we see more than others instead of admitting we read it in books and ignorantly chose to believe instead of understand what we read. You called God, the "Universal Consciousness", so you ought to respect the individual parts that make up that consciousness. It is the second commandment given by Christ, 'that you love your neighbour'.

Paul inspires me to say:

When one of you says, I am a follower of this,” and another says, “I follow that,” aren’t you acting just like the ignorant people of the world?After all, who is this? Who is that? We are only humans seeking understanding. Each of us did the research. Seeds are planted in our hearts by our reading and it grows. It’s not important who does the planting or who does the watering. What’s important is that the seed grows. The one who plants and the one who waters work together with the same purpose of increasing knowledge and enlightening. And both will be rewarded for their own hard work. For we are all workers working in the field so we may build.

Check [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%203&version=NLT]here to see how much licence I took[/url].

God is God

Man is man..

God can't become man

And man can't become God..

God is not a man or human being Numbers 23:19..

Jesus is a Roman idol ...has nothing to do with God.

MaxInDHouse:
So Nirvana will become cheap, shey?
Then why all these arguments if you're sure of what you're saying?
Messiah will come teach everyone whether they accept or not and Nirvana will become a property of everyone!

Lol...where did you get all these from ?

Definitely not me...


We are souls dwelling within a physical vessel made from the DUST of the earth. Death is just return to default. If you so desire to come to earth again. Nothing is stopping you. You reincarnate in a different body. And enter the matrix again.. if not. You explore other realm