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SportsRe: Pharaohs Afraid Of ‘Black Magic' Ahead Of Eagles Clash by sonmvayina(m): 9:42pm On Jan 06, 2022
Parrot69:
Let’s bet.
I will send you 20k if they win by this your margin.
Our game against Egypt is a draw.
Winning dey the match .....8f it ends in a draw, we will win the afcon
Christianity EtcRe: Strange Times , Vision Of UFO Invasion And Angelic Intervention To Come by sonmvayina(m): 9:26pm On Jan 06, 2022
Teslason:
Maybe, it's too scary and gory.
The vision is still bothering me till now.
A lot of fatalities.
Yes...A lot of people will die.

The apocalypse is upon us...
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 9:06pm On Jan 06, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You know me already but let's wait for your friends (Churchgoers) you need to know what their god taught them! cheesy
Nobody was there when these literatures where written. All we can do is try and make sense of context. I have shown clearly for those that are enlightened that the Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah. And also that he has nothing to do with Judaism and the Jewish people. ..

I will surely listen to any refutation from any person as long as he shows where the idea was conceived in the old testament...
Christianity EtcRe: Strange Times , Vision Of UFO Invasion And Angelic Intervention To Come by sonmvayina(m): 9:01pm On Jan 06, 2022
Teslason:
Hmm!
I had a vision some years ago about alien invasion. They came with spaceships and they were shape shifters.
Their aim was to kill part of the human race and enslave humans. They used humans to repair their spaceships, when humans came together to default the aliens, the aliens sabotaged and eliminated the defaulters.
That was when the human race came together as one irrespective of race and language. Humans dropped their ego and picked up the guns to fight for their planet. It was too late. Humans were colonized by aliens.


What do you have to say about this?
Hollywood is already preparing our mind for it....it will still happen
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 7:56pm On Jan 06, 2022
elated177:
Do you think I have the time for that?
You don't really want to know anything...


You are comfortable with being ignorant...

With cheap data on all network? Ignorance is now a choice. And you just made a choice to be one...

Read it. Even if you don't agree with it.
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 7:53pm On Jan 06, 2022
elated177:
Is that where the name of your god is?
Chineke.....
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:52pm On Jan 06, 2022
elated177:
Sonmvayina, I suppose you didn't compose this yourself? Did you? I have a few questions to ask.
Fire away...
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 7:51pm On Jan 06, 2022
elated177:
All you had to do was mention some of the odinala which you have been on about.
I will do you better..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odinala
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 7:09pm On Jan 06, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
The one and only group that can answer these questions using the Bible are Jehovah's Witnesses but since you want to argue with Churchgoers i'll leave you with them! grin
You don't need extra permission..


Just go ahead already
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(op): 3:36pm On Jan 06, 2022
God denies King David the ability to build the temple because he “shed blood in war.” How would Jesus be able to enter into New Jerusalem if he came back with a sword and a vestibule drenched in blood? How would he usher in the rebuilding of the temple—or be the new temple—if he came back to slay sinners and shed blood in war?

The book of Revelation of the New Testament says Jesus will come again “to make war” and that his clothing will be “drenched in blood,” which is another inconvenient claim not supported by the Hebrew prophecies of the Messiah.
SportsRe: Super Eagles Squad Arrive In Cameroon For AFCON (Video) by sonmvayina(m): 2:46pm On Jan 06, 2022
Mrkumareze:
wink politicised football, no preparation, no training. How do we expect them to get a positive result..
Which one "no training" ?

No be them play qualifiers ni?
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 2:06pm On Jan 06, 2022
Myer:
I'm not arguing with you but if you have studied the old testament Prophets you'll know this was all prophesied.

That the Israelites will provoke God to jealousy and he will in turn reject them and bless the Gentiles more than them to also make them jealous.

This is prophesied by one of the Prophets Ezekiel or Isaiah. Paul also mentioned this.

So Jesus like you said was sent directly and strictly to the Israelites. Which was why he rejected the Gentile woman who wanted him to heal her daughter. But he eventually healed her daughter due to her faith.

It was for the prophecy to be fulfilled that the Israelites rejected him so that the blessing can be extended to the rest of the world.
That God will provoke the Jews into jealousy when they see him blessing the Gentiles. And so return to him and accept Jesus Christ.

Yes a few Jews accepted Jesus and still few Jews accept him today. So the purpose of God is yet to be fulfilled. Cos it's only a minority of the Jews that accept him. The majority have rejected him as a false prophet who tried to destroy the established religion Moses laid down. In fact if you do your research ,in most Jewish temples they place curses on Jesus every time.
Are the jews wrong to do that?

Did God ever tell them he was going to send his son?

God was punishing them and sending them on exile because they where worshipping idols. The gods of other nations..why should he punished them now for obeying his commandments of not worshipping the likeness and image of a human being??
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 2:00pm On Jan 06, 2022
Myer:
You really need to read the bible more and not just the Synoptic gospels. It's ok to prioritize the synoptics but do make time to read you read others old testament and the epistles.

God's plan has always been to save the rest of the world through Abraham. Genesis 22:18

Jesus came to save the lost sheep of Israel first and foremost but after they rejected him, he sent his disciples to the rest of the world.

That's irrefutable.
Who are the lost sheep in Israel? I need evidence from old testament.
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 1:55pm On Jan 06, 2022
elated177:
I still want answer to that question. Just mention some of the rules and commandments.

You should have given some of the Omenala Igbo, since you are Igbo.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odinala
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 1:53pm On Jan 06, 2022
elated177:
"Chukwu" means big God. It is not a name but a title. What is the name of your god?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chukwu#:~:text=Conception%20of%20Chukwu,deity%20represented%20by%20the%20sun.
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 1:49pm On Jan 06, 2022
elated177:
You have just highlighted some of the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty, the Creator described in the Scriptures - Genesis to Revelation and the others not included.

Now, in the accounts of those other people, enuma elish and co, are there commandments as well?

What about the Omenala Igbo? You didn't mention any.
The same God the jews worship is the same God we igbos worship. He gave same laws to all of mankind.

The one in the tanakh was written down by jews for jews...
We wrote our own in odinani for igbos...

Comprende??
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 1:46pm On Jan 06, 2022
KnownUnknown:
They can’t sell me anything because I don’t buy nonsense like you. Regardless, what they are selling is very well supported by the Jewish fables you love.

Don’t bother giving me anything because all you have is worthless.
Show me the evidence for your claim ..I will wait.
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 1:44pm On Jan 06, 2022
DeepSight:
Christianity must at all events count as a barbaric pagan religion for grounding its core doctrine on ritual human sacrifice/ bloodletting and torture.
And they don't even know it...
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 10:15pm On Jan 05, 2022
Myer:
Biblically the reason he never said that is because it's meant to be God's secret plan aka mystery.
Otherwise they wont have killed him. 1 Corinthians 2:8
Lol...

So Muhammad can also claim so too.

Jesus has got nothing to do with God.

Amos 3:7 says God does nothing without first revealing it to his servants the prophet. So which prophet did God reveal Jesus to?
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 10:13pm On Jan 05, 2022
Kobojunkie:
No interpretation but basic language comprehension needed here..

Jesus Christ came to take away the sins of Old Covenant Law of Moses sinners aka the Lost sheep of Israel who He was sent to ransom from the Old Law - matthew 10 vs 6 & Matthew 15 vs 24welcoming them instead to a New Covenant with God - Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30

■ Of those who belong in His New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ said that it is only by knowing the Truth- His Teachings and commandments- that they can be set free from bondage/Slavery to sin by the Truth - John 8 vs 31 - 44 undecided

■ John, who is attributed with writing the Gospel according to John knew this and so could not have meant anything else by his statements in his letter to believers in 1 John 2 vs 2 undecided
Whose idea is this ?

Who sent Jesus?

If you say God, which prophet did he reveal it to ?

Amos 3:7 says God does nothing without first revealing it to his servant the prophet.

This is where I don't understand...

WHO SENT JESUS?
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 10:06pm On Jan 05, 2022
KnownUnknown:
Yea, ignorance is a disease and in your case it’s terminal.
Only time will judge...
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 10:05pm On Jan 05, 2022
KnownUnknown:
The New Testament follows from the Jewish Scriptures, that’s why the Christians added it to the Jewish scriptures.
No..

They added to make it sellable to you.

On a careful study, will clearly show they are hostile to each other. I can give you 3 differences...
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 10:03pm On Jan 05, 2022
elated177:
"Chukwu" means big god.

Are you saying that the Genesis account of creation is a myth?
Yes it's a myth. The Jewish myth.

We igbos have our own too..
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 10:02pm On Jan 05, 2022
elated177:
I still want answer to that question. Just mention some of the rules and commandments.

You should have given some of the Omenala Igbo, since you are Igbo.
Do not commit adultery

Do not steal

Do not bear false witness

Do not kill

Do no worship that resembles anything in heaven ,or on earth..

Create a competent court of law..(ministry of justice)
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 2:32pm On Jan 05, 2022
KnownUnknown:
The slave of the Jews. How’s your Jewish landlord?
Lol...since our only rextbook here is the Bible. I am clearly showing why the new testament does not follow from the Jewish scriptures and the fact that they are hostile to one another. The jews owns the tanakh while the Christians owns the new testament...

Two different ideologies...
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 2:30pm On Jan 05, 2022
KnownUnknown:
Only Jew god created Heaven and Earth? Big deal.
Jove created Elysium and Jupiter.
Ogun created Blissville and Mars
Aphrodite created aAlkernum and Venus
Isis created the Moon
Nut created the Milky Way
Seun created Nairaland
I’m currently creating turds on my porcelain throne.
Lol...

Ignorance is a disease..

Beware of it...
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 2:29pm On Jan 05, 2022
elated177:
Is "chukwu" a name?

It is a yes or no question, sonmvayina. Do you believe the creation story recorded in the Book of Genesis?
Chukwu is a title. It means great creator. ..
Some people has personified it based on the aspect of God they desire..

The Genesis account is one of the thousands and one creation myth on planet earth. Every culture has one. It is not meant to be believed....it is meant for knowledge...
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 2:25pm On Jan 05, 2022
elated177:
Can you highlight these "rules and commandments"?
It is called IFA in yoruba

It is called omenani in igbo

It is called Torah in Judaism.

Any one you can lay your hands on please do well to study.
The laws where given to guide us so we can live in peace with our selves and nature and transcends our human nature and awaken to our spiritual self..
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 7:59pm On Jan 04, 2022
elated177:
Sonmvayina, what is the name of your god?
Do you believe the creation account record in the Book of Genesis?

I am not a Christian.
I believe in one indivisible, all powerful creator of heaven and earth. He has different names depending on your tribe...we igbos calls him CHUKWU.

The Genesis account is one take of several creation tale in the world. The Jewis got their own from recasting but retaining some motif from the babylonian enuma elish...we igbos just as theyorubas also have our creation myth or narrative. But in all the same elements are consistent in the creation of man. That is spirit of God + dust or mud from the earth...
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 3:19pm On Jan 04, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
All humans do grow old, get sick and expire.
This is not how God planned it from the beginning because He said "let us create man in our own image" {Genesis 1:26} animals don't have the thought of living forever because they live on instinct but as for humans those created in the likeness of God He (God) has put eternity into their minds!

He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has even put eternity in their heart; yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish! Ecclesiastes 3:11

So no human with sound health, youthful vigor, the good things of life and living in a peaceful atmosphere will welcome the thought of death.

That's the way God wants us to live forever.

But Adamic sin brought oldage, sickness and death. So anyone who wants to regain what God planned from the beginning only need to switch over from being Adam's descendants to that Jesus' descendants.
Adam became our father through BLOOD as we are all his biological children {Romans 5:12} so Jesus must repossess those who want to live forever with his own BLOOD {1Corinthians 15:45} by pouring out his human life (blood) to become our EVERLASTING FATHER {Isaiah 9:6} unlike Adam who transfer death to his own children Jesus' blood will give us life everlasting! John 3:16

Therefore when God's Kingdom comes whoever is not ready to obey Jesus will surely be exterminated! Luke 19:27 smiley
First and foremost MaxInDHouse, God created both life and death. Death was created to give meaning to life. Without death, life would be meaningless...trust me.
Secondly where did you get the idea of moving from Adam decendants to Jesus decendants? Whose idea I it. When did God plan this ?

When did god plan this transition?

You just following and believing whatever you like..?
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 3:13pm On Jan 04, 2022
Myer:
Whether he is needed or not, I am in no place to determine.
But can you deny that he has worked for those who believe in him?
Muslim can also say the same thing

Ogun worshippers cab also say the same thing..

But none of then have any thing to do with the creator of heaven and earth..including Jesus.

He gave us rules and commandments to keep and follow. That is only what he desires of us. The idea of worshipping a crucified jew is not of God...

God never asked for it or ordered for it

Why should I waste my time on it?
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Don't Need Jesus. by sonmvayina(op): 1:31pm On Jan 03, 2022
Myer:
The sacrifice of Jesus Christ as you rightly said is propitiation for the sins of all mankind before God. 1 John 2:2

However what I do not understand is what you mean by not needing it.
He is useless. He is not needed for anything.

God abhors human sacrifice. It is an abomination in his sight.

Asper the bold, when did God ask for it in the old testament?

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