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Rosement:
That is your own opinion, what does it even change, what should I do about that or are you expecting me to clap for you?

Idolatry is the worst sin in God's eyes..

alphaNomega:
Mary was sexually assaulted

Lol..may be

MrCEO69:
Before you conclude try to know the timeline of all this people you mentioned. Did they come after Jesus or bf. then you would know who copied who.

Are you for real...?

Because they did not phone ahead a make reservation. They knew it was Chris time and a lot of people will be traveling home for the celebration. And it also fell during new yam festival and igue festival...

Joseph relation no even allow am stay with them. E tell them say nah spirit give him wife Belle...

Rosement:
You need to visit a ophthalmologist because you are ready seeing stars, that is not my God, that is just a baby sucking beast. We Christians don't worship images.

Lol...tell me something else. Christianity and idolatry are like 5 and 6

budaatum:
Why? Would what I write change meaning by my age or will it make you regard more what I write, neither which I desire as I'd rather you maintain your objectivity?

How old are you?

It's rude to answer a question with a question ...

I don't want actual age...just give me a range of 5 years....

You write and reason like a teenager....I might be wrong.

budaatum:
That context will include the minds of those who "trembled and stood afar off" when they heard "the thunderings, the lightning flashes, the sound of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking", and the minds of those who wrote the story, and the minds of those who now read it and claim they heard God, along with just about every major thought on the book and the written word throughout the history of time, and our collective context, and our individual personal contexts too plus some.

Its not like your context is my context (perhaps due to different schooling, upbringing, effort, capability, interests, resources, time, location, etc), and we obviously do not place the words we've been using in the same context, as you must have noticed.

That's why I like Jesus by the way. He is written to have said, "love your God", which many do claim they do, then he added, "love your neighbour", which most think they do though they don't bother with their neighbours context.

I'm glad we are evolving in our understanding of the Prophet Einstein's Relativity

How old are you? Please oblige me..

Just give me a range

Rosement:
I cannot obey the law of the creator of the universe that you believe in because the creator I know is different from the creator you know. My own creator, Jesus Christ of Nazareth wants me to listen to the teaching of His apostles, so I will not ignore their teachings.

Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Ok it is enough.

Your God is sucking bress..

No noise.

budaatum:
Hack what you read please.

Are you suggesting the language of God that was very distinct when we read Moses heard God was, "the thunderings, the lightning flashes, the sound of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking" that the people saw?

Apart from the fact that they obviously did not hear nor see any God (except perhaps for Ogun the God of Thunder), do you seriously believe evidence provided by those who "trembled and stood afar off"?

Sonmvayina, can you see even God coming from what you call "pagan" as opposed to what I'd call the religion of understanding what you read?

I clearly understand, but I sincerely doubt you do.

We are not present when does things or events occurred. All we try to do is to make sense of context.

Which I have always advocated, hence I opened the thread " the letter killeth" but people like MaxInDHouse and Co will want to try and interprete them literally ....and even you sometimes..

Rosement:
Mr elder, thanks very much for your advice but it is not even needed because your God is not my God. Your own God does not permit you to eat animals that the blood runs to the earth but my God own permits me to eat it.

If I want to follow your doctrines, I would simply convert to your religion and I am not interested in your religion. I only practice Christianity, please let me be.

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Well, it is the law the creator of the universe decreed for every human being on earth. Even if you want to worship your idol(Jesus christ) I am not stopping you but at least obey the creators commandments.
Don't make the mistake of following Paul writtings he is not God. He is only going to lead you astray..

The people who created the Jesus character said his birthday is 25th of December. Wetin concern me if federal government say nah holiday.....I no go use am jolly.

The Catholics said Jesus birthday is 25th.

How is it any body's business? Why should I argue with them.

Until they come and change our iwaji (new yam) festival then there is really going to be a big problem.

Nee testament is not scriptures.....budaatum, take note..

Rosement:
If my Jesus does not beat me for celebrating His birthday, go and carry your cane and come to my house to beat me. Mr man mind your own business and face your own religion. I don't want to convert to your religion, I only practice Christianity. Thank you very much but your advice is not even needed because we don't know the same Jesus and we don't practice the same religion. Preach to your members alone.

Kobojunkie is neither here nor there....

I guess at the end of the day.....he is just a ...ehhhhh junkie

Rosement:
How is that your business? I did not invite you to come and eat or do you want to eat the neck for me?

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Well, I only wanted to help you so you don't defile yourself...
Ignorance is no excuse. God commanded we allow the blood to run to the earth when we slaughter any animal . If you did, the better I not...it's up to you. If you like be claiming smartness, don't listen to advice from an elder....

Merry Christmas..

Real jews practice Judaism which is the religion of their ancestors. The Roman empire created the Jesus character and Christianity on the order of emperor Constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire. The jews follow the Torah. Which is meant to last forever. The Messiah God promised to send them 8f they behave well is a normal human being from the line of David. ...
The romans just added their idolatry at the back of the Jewish holy book to make it sellable to the gullible public.....no more no less.

Rosement:
This information is for people of your religion. I am a Christian, we don't share the same beliefs and I am not interested in converting to your religion, so why are you telling about your beliefs.

Did you allow the blood run on the ground when you cut its neck? Yes or no..

Rosement:
I don't understand, is it a crime to slaughter or eat meat?

Yes....except for sacrifice to God...

Did you allow the blood run to the earth?

Not just Christmas...Christianity itself is idolatry itself...

Rosement:
Christmas is not for your Yahushua but it is for my own Jesus Christ. No be you go tell me wetin I go believe. My Christmas ram has finally been slaughtered. Do have a nice day.

Animal sacrifice??

The jews don't believe in personal revelation....

Kobojunkie:
Again....Christmas is not of Jesus Christ but of this world - it is a secular/Pagan holiday- and so should not be celebrated in His name either..

Merry Christmas and good tidings to all!

Just talk say you no get money take celebrate...nobody go beat you...

I know say Jesus nah idol and all, but My wife Cook better pounded yam and ofe Nsala....I buy one red wine wey she dey like....later in the night when the children don sleep...enough firing down..I will drill the oil.. merry Christmas my neigbours..

When was Jesus born?

A. Popular myth puts his birth on December 25th in the year 1 C.E.

B. The New Testament gives no date or year for Jesus’ birth. The earliest gospel – St. Mark’s, written about 65 CE – begins with the baptism of an adult Jesus. This suggests that the earliest Christians lacked interest in or knowledge of Jesus’ birthdate.

C. The year of Jesus birth was determined by Dionysius Exiguus, a Scythian monk, “abbot of a Roman monastery. His calculation went as follows:

a. In the Roman, pre-Christian era, years were counted from ab urbe condita (“the founding of the City” [Rome]). Thus 1 AUC signifies the year Rome was founded, 5 AUC signifies the 5th year of Rome’s reign, etc.

b. Dionysius received a tradition that the Roman emperor Augustus reigned 43 years, and was followed by the emperor Tiberius.

c. Luke 3:1,23 indicates that when Jesus turned 30 years old, it was the 15th year of Tiberius reign.

d. If Jesus was 30 years old in Tiberius’ reign, then he lived 15 years under Augustus (placing Jesus birth in Augustus’ 28th year of reign).

e. Augustus took power in 727 AUC. Therefore, Dionysius put Jesus birth in 754 AUC.

f. However, Luke 1:5 places Jesus’ birth in the days of Herod, and Herod died in 750 AUC – four years before the year in which Dionysius places Jesus birth.

D. Joseph A. Fitzmyer – Professor Emeritus of Biblical Studies at the Catholic University of America, member of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, and former president of the Catholic Biblical Association – writing in the Catholic Church’s official commentary on the New Testament[1], writes about the date of Jesus’ birth, “Though the year [of Jesus birth is not reckoned with certainty, the birth did not occur in AD 1. The Christian era, supposed to have its starting point in the year of Jesus birth, is based on a miscalculation introduced ca. 533 by Dionysius Exiguus.”

E. The DePascha Computus, an anonymous document believed to have been written in North Africa around 243 CE, placed Jesus birth on March 28. Clement, a bishop of Alexandria (d. ca. 215 CE), thought Jesus was born on November 18. Based on historical records, Fitzmyer guesses that Jesus birth occurred on September 11, 3 BC

budaatum:
I have no take on human sacrifice apart from being glad it has immensely reduced over time.

Is it of any benefit to God or to man ?

budaatum:
One might "maintain" whatever one wants about the Gods but one must be mindful of idolism.

Do you think consciousness is a physical entity ?

Broveens42:
New testament is just copy work from old testament. And they didn't even copy well lol..

I just wish people can read line by line for themselves, they would discover this scam

No they won't...they are so comfortable believing a lie...

budaatum:
You said that with regards to the Christian ideology you witness around you and not with regard to the Christian ideology you discovered by using your own heart and soul and mind and eyes and James Webb to ask and knock and seek an understanding of your own.

What's your take on human sacrifice?

MaxInDHouse:
With all these?
My lady you've born a thorough witness about what you believe.
I'm not expecting anyone to come ARGUING with the OP but at least a signal to show that the OP has nothing to say against our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus.
Well-done for speaking up for what you know, i also will not even give the guy my time to waste because he's not open to any agreement, i only came to chat with the other commentator but it's obvious that i've been chatting with the same person so i quit! Titus 3:9

Lol....very laughable.

Who is arguing with you. Like I said earlier why would a 10 years old be arguing with a400 level chemistry student about air.. you are arguing a woman just magically missed her period without the input of a man. I am pointing to you that the story falls under mythology.. you are still insisting it was foretold. You keep quoting passages that do not relate to your point. But max must be max. He must always find a way to convince himself ...

To your tent oh Israel.

KnownUnknown:
What do you think Moses/Levites were doing if not uniting people under one religion?

If Jesus was created, what makes you think your precious Jewish god wasn’t?!

Who is yaweh?

Who is Moses ?

Who is levites ?
These names means nothing to me. I am igbo. We have our Omenani. I am not a slave. Only a slave worships his masters God...

I always maintained God is the (divine) consciousness....I guess with time we will come round to it. But the mean time let's just try to understand our pov

budaatum:
I don't know why you feel the need to believe anything at all but the choice is entirely your's. You might want to try understanding, though.

I said that with regards to the Christian ideology. Which was born out of mis translating Jewish scriptures scriptures.....and misunderstanding too.

KnownUnknown:
Answer the initial questions.



Marduk is more akin to Jesus than a supreme diety.




The letter must have killeth ye.



The stories are just stories until you decide that Mr G-d Hashem commanded something or the other.



The stories are different and the interpretations are varied. But when they are similar, they are probably copied. Your dear Jews are famous for copying.



Pray tell, what is the message?



You already said this.

Which Is?

KnownUnknown:
Answer the questions if you are capable.



I did not call you Jewish. I said you worship Jews.




The Jews don’t recognize your Chukwu. History is replete with the Jews not recognizing other peoples gods. Their sacred book is filled with Hashem commanding genocide. So the chukwu and hashem are not the same.


Igbos and Jews are not the only ones who have a concept on one “creator god”. Even trinitarians of every stripe believe in one creator god. The Hellenized Jews of Alexandria who created the New Testament scriptures were trinitarians. Even you understood the trinity, then you wouldn’t be disputing the Christian’s concept of god.
Lastly, there is no jew anywhere citing chukwu to support belief in hashem, but here you are.



HE is not a man but HE commands, HE doles out pardons, HE forgives, and HE has taboos and abomination but HE is not a man.




Authors of the Old Testament did write that he has sons. Maybe he decided to sacrifice one of them.
However, if you understood the esoteric meaning of the scriptures, you’d understand why the authors wrote that only the incarnation of “god” can serve as sacrifice for the “original sin”. But you still think god is real so you are just as blind as all the Christian’s you criticize.




Hellenized Jews of Alexandria in Ptolemaic Egypt wrote the Jesus story. Was Philo of Alexandria a Jew or not? The essenses, the therapetaue, the Nazarites,
are some of the names referring to the eclectic Jewish philosophers of Alexandria who wrote the allegories. The Romans merely adopted them.




Careful research leads to erudition. If you do more than “simple research” you’d know that Serapis is an earlier incarnation of the same “god” as Jesus. If you do more than careful research, you did see that the ritual artifacts of Serapis is just one o the multiple “pagan” symbols the Christians adopted after they solidified their position in the Roman government.

You think you are knowledgeable but you can’t even decide if Jesus was created in Nicea or Serapis was converted to Jesus in Ephesus.

I never know you were also a dummy. Sorry to say.

Hashem = Chukwu = Marduk = Olodumare = Osanobua = Abasi ...

The letter killeth...my dear. The letter killeth.

The message and spiritual truth is what is consistent. Not the story. The stories are all stories. Nothing more. Learn the message in them.
It is just the nomenclature that is different. The messages in the stories are consistent...

The jews used Cain and Ebel
The babylonian used Enki and Enlil
The igbos used Emeka and ifeanyi
The Greeks used Zeus and poseidon

The messages in the story are the same.