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FreeIgboho:
You hang everything on "God does not change".
If that is true how did creation begin? And why did animal sacrifices stop?

Animal sacrifice is not stopping.

When God sends his Messiah, he will build the temple and the animal sacrifice will commence..
I don't know why or when creation began and I don't claim to know.

FreeIgboho:
Can you.please elaborate on these questions?
Why must Jesus bring Torah??

If he was from God, he would defend and uphold the Torah. He never did (according to the story), we know he never existed.

FreeIgboho:
Bethlehem:
Micah 5:2, often cited as a prophecy about the Messiah's birthplace, is interpreted as foretelling Jesus' birth in Bethlehem.
Virgin Birth:
While not a direct prophecy of a place, Isaiah 7:14, which speaks of a virgin giving birth, is often connected to the virgin birth of Jesus.
Lineage:
Various passages, including Genesis 49:10, Isaiah 11:1, and 2 Samuel 7:12-16, are cited as prophecies concerning Jesus' lineage, particularly his descent from the line of David.
Suffering Servant:
Isaiah 53 is widely interpreted as describing a suffering servant who would bear the sins of others, a role Christians believe Jesus fulfilled.
Other Prophecies:
Other passages, such as Psalm 22 (regarding mockery and crucifixion), Zechariah 9:9 (concerning riding on a donkey)

Also see Isaiah 9:6 below

You are just beating about the bush.
Please hit the nail on the head.

Where did God say he was coming as a man to be sacrificed to himself as a sin sacrifice.
The truth of the matter is there is no where.

Jesus is a pagan concept and ideology.

All those passages you enumerated, none remotely speak of Jesus. All you guys do is remove text out of context. Isaiah 7 is about Isaiah's second son. Who was a sign for king Ahaz. Isaiah 9:6, the son has already been given when Isaiah was writing. He was referring to future king Hezekiah. Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant. And in more that 8 places prior to chapter 53, Isaiah told you that the suffering servant is Israel...... Isaiah 53 is a soliloquy.. it is what the kings of the earth will say when they see the salvation of Israel. Context is key.
Check for Rabbi Tovia singer on YouTube and follow his channel. You will learn a lot.

My guy, there is no Jesus at all in the Tanakh.

The only scripture he fulfils is Deuteronomy 13.

FreeIgboho:
Point is, you don't know what this is. It is likely some sort of a dream or an elaborate hoax. So you're NOT AT ALL in a position to say what's possible or not possible. All you know is that God was said to be coming, and surprisingly he did indeed come hundreds of years later and said he was indeed God and that his words would never pass away, and here we are, 2000+ years later and his words have not passed away and he's being worshipped as God. That's ALL you know, and that's all u need to know!

where?
i have asked you this question a thousand time already. show me where a Jewish prophet prophesied that God was coming in human form( numbers 23:19) to be sacrificed as a sin sacrificed.
so you read a book that says God came in the flesh and you did not question it but believed it, are you like 5 years old.?
is the first thing to do not to check and confirm first?
you blindly believed
i have checked, and there is just NO WHERE. that was even remotely mentioned.

if you can show me where, i will do 50gb data for you.
Then why would God forbid idolatry? or you don't know worshiping a man as God is tantamount to idolatry?

see commandment number 2

''You shall not make for yourself a graven image or any likeness which is in the heavens above, which is on the earth below, or which is in the water beneath the earth.'' worshiping a man, something found on earth is forbidden by GOD.

CanadaOrBust:
When they were asked who was their king they never answered God, nor was that recorded in writings

what have you read?

FreeIgboho:
See verse you quoted below.
Questions: 1) Are you an OT Israelite? 2) What land are you asking God to heal?

2 Chronicles 7:14
New International Version
14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

i am not an Israelite, i am an African. that worships the creator of heaven and earth...just like the ancient israelites. we don't do human sacrifice for sin. we know God don't accept human sacrifice......he only accept a contrite heart.

AngelahFlo:
Know why I won't accept Marduk as a creator God to be the same as the creator God who made the heavens and the earth is because Marduk is an heathen god. The others are simply an interpretation of who The Creator God is to this people. The Babylonians are no more because of their heathen nature and them not recognizing God as the Supreme being. The moment we begin to equate these heathen gods as the Creator God, we miss the point entirely. The Creator Gid is one God in a class by Himself unlike the creator god of the Babylonians who is one of a pantheon of gods this ancient people served. The same with Ra.
Eledumare and Hashim on the other hand, are one and the same with the Creator God. It's just an interpretation. We are both right up to the point where we don't try to add the Creator God who exist in a class by Himself, to other gods even though they all do similar things. I hope you understand my own line of thought. If accept your idea to be true then it means Sango, Ogun, Amadioha and Zeus are the same as the Creator God only with different manifestations which ain't true. There are many sides to the Creator God but that doesn't mean He's one of these.

the bolded are all the orishas. they are all aspect of the creator.

there is only one God, it is only the nomenclature that is different.

the torah was written around 550 BCE. 1000 + before that the Babylonians wrote the enuma elish, which is what the Hebrews used in writing their torah. it was Marduk that asked nebochanezzer to bring the Hebrews to Babylon to learn about him.

watch this two movies for your knowledge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpEp2wf93CQ





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVlMjSPQeHI

FreeIgboho:
I know all this seem funny and ridiculous to you but here's what you're trying to reason:
Consider:
There are over 2 trillion galaxies in our universe. And possibly unlimited number of universes are in existence. Now, shrink our galaxy (which is just one of two trillion) to the size of the earth. When you do that, our earth will be smaller than a grain of salt! Add to that, there are likely multiple other dimensions! That's the God you're trying to define!
That's what you are trying to reason with the extremely limited brain you were given!

and you claim he impregnated another mans wife, because he wanted a son to answer his name or carry on the family business?

you are reducing him to that level.......somebody that does not change.

FreeIgboho:
You don't understand. That was Jesus talking! Same old I AM! See below

God said before he does anything he would reveal it first to his servants the prophet..see Amos 3:7

so which prophet did God reveal to that he was going to come as a human being and be murdered as a sacrificed to himself. since it makes sense to you.

AngelahFlo:
You're different because God isn't Marduk.
Forget what the Babylonians call Him.
This is where you miss it. The nations whose god you just listed especially the last 3 are heathen nations who worship a pantheon of gods. Any Being that deviates from the Being in the Bible isn't the real God.
You see when you hold to this view, you miss the point entirely. You begin to pray and believe in any being you consider supreme because of your belief. This itself is an error. God who name is Yahweh in Hebrew means "I Am"
Case in point: do the nations who worship these gods believe in one God aside their own various deities? There is one God and He's not Ra, Marduk, satan, lucifer etc.

Marduk is the creator God in Babylonian theology.
HashIm is the creator God in jewish religion
Eledumare is creator God is yoruba religion..

by simple comparison Marduk=Hashim= Eledumare.

FreeIgboho:
Come on, it is clearly stated in the verses I gave you what would happen and that was exactly what happened. Till today, 2000+ years later, he's being worshipped as God and his words have only gotten stronger!

you are just very funny

show me the prophet that wrote that God is going to impregnate another mans wife and come as a man, that would be sacrificed to him so as to forgive humans their sins.
the God i worship has already given us a solution to the problem of sin in 2nd chronicles 7:14. look it up. it is sufficient.

AngelahFlo:
My Ideology is based on the Bible which is the word of God. I don't know where your ideology is based but of its outside the word of God then it's not real. It's falsehood. While it's true that God has an interpretation in various languages like the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa? It's not the languages I'm faulting you with its you equating an interpretation of God to pagan nations that God destroyed.
Example likening God to be same as the pagan god of the chaldeans. Yahweh is both a name and title of God. Don't know where you got your one of the sons of Enlil from.

do you understands anything at all?

God is one....that is what the bible says. see Deuteronomy 6:4.

that one God is what the igbo calls CHINEKE
Is what the youruba calls ELEDUMARE
Is what the edo calls OSANOBUA.
Is what the jews calls HASHEM, Not Yawah. their God is not Yaweh. yaweh is a cannatite god that is married to asherah. God has no consult.

all others like sango, ogun, etc are called orisha. the bible calls them the sons of God...see the book of Job.

what is it you don't get?

the Jewish wrote their stories down for their people...it is their story, why do you think only their idea is right?

Three Gods, One Lie: How the Trinity Collapses Under Its Own Weight

“Jesus emptied himself.”
“The Holy Spirit descended like a dove.”
“But the Father stayed in heaven… so where was ‘God’?”

They call it mystery.
But it’s contradiction dressed in religious robes

THE BAPTISM THAT BREAKS Christianity

At the Jordan River, all three Persons of the Trinity supposedly appear:
The Father speaks from heaven.
The Spirit descends like a dove.
The Son stands in the water.

If each one is 100% God—then God split Himself for the scene.
Three wills. Three voices. One broken doctrine.

But this isn’t the unity of Deuteronomy 6:4.
It’s a divine drama—acted by three imposters.

IF GOD CAN EMPTY HIMSELF, HE’S NOT GOD

Malachi 3:6 — “I, HaShem, do not change.”
Psalm 115:16 — “The heavens belong to HaShem.”

Yet Philippians 2:7 says Jesus “emptied himself,” became flesh, and died.
That’s not God. That’s a demotion.

Midrash Tehillim 90 — “God fills the universe but is not affected by it.”
Sifre Devarim 32 — “God’s essence is beyond change.”

God doesn’t downgrade.
He doesn’t bleed.
He doesn’t die.


THE SPIRIT RESTS — BUT NEVER INDWELLS

Matthew 3:16 says the Spirit rested on Jesus.
The Greek word used is “anapauō” — meaning “rested,” not “indwelled.”

But Ezekiel 36:27 defines what the true Spirit does:
“I will put My Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in My statutes and keep My judgments…”

When the Spirit is inside someone, they obey Torah. That’s the test.

Did Jesus obey Torah?

He broke Shabbat (John 5:18).
He accepted worship.
He claimed divinity.
He violated halakhah repeatedly.

If the Spirit had truly filled him, he would have walked in the commandments. But he didn’t.
So either the Spirit wasn’t in him, or the Spirit failed.


CHAZAL CONFIRM: REST ≠ DIVINITY

Genesis Rabbah 70 teaches the Spirit rests temporarily on prophets—not eternally.
Yoma 4b says even the High Priest risks death if exposed to God’s unshielded Presence.
Berachot 17a teaches the Shechinah departs if impurity enters.

If Jesus had the Spirit resting on him, it didn’t make him divine.
It made him accountable—and he failed.

THE SPIRIT CONTRADICTION: DID HE COME TWICE?

Now it gets worse.

John 7:39 says:
“The Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.”

But Matthew already told us the Spirit descended on Jesus at his baptism.
So which is it?

Was the Spirit already given—or not?

If the Spirit was already on Jesus, then John 7:39 is false.
If John 7:39 is true, then the baptism scene is fiction.

And if both are somehow true, then Christianity claims the Spirit had to come twice:

Once at the baptism—producing no obedience.
And again at Pentecost—with no Torah and no transformation.

This is not divine truth. It’s narrative collapse.


THEN JESUS BREATHES… AND STILL NOTHING

In John 20:22, Jesus breathes on his disciples and says, “Receive the Holy Spirit.”
Yet in Acts 1:8, he tells them to wait for the Holy Spirit to come.

So did they receive the Spirit already or not?

If the breath worked, why wait?
If it didn’t, why do it?

Theologians will say the breath was symbolic.
But Christianity doesn’t need more symbols—it needs truth.

If Jesus had full divine power and full access to the Spirit,
why couldn’t he transfer it to his disciples?

If he could knock soldiers down with words,
why couldn’t he permanently empower his followers?

Because he wasn’t God.
Because the Spirit wasn’t fully with him.
Because none of this fits Torah or prophecy.


EVEN WHEN THE GUARDS FELL — STILL NO SPIRIT?

John 18:6 says when Jesus said “I AM,” the soldiers fell backward.
Christianity says this proves divine power.

But what kind of power?

Was this the Holy Spirit at work?
If so, how could John 7:39 say the Spirit wasn’t given yet?
If not, then the Spirit wasn’t involved—and Jesus acted without it.

Again: contradiction.

Even if this moment was divine authority, it didn’t lead to Spirit transfer, Torah obedience, or prophetic fulfillment.


WHY THE SPIRIT BRINGS TORAH — NOT TONGUES

Ezekiel 36:27 says the Spirit causes obedience.
Isaiah 11:2 describes the true Messiah’s Spirit as producing wisdom, fear of God, and justice.

Now compare that to the Pentecost narrative in Acts:
Tongues, fire, chaos.
But no commandments.
No return to Torah.
No national repentance.

That’s not Spirit. That’s spectacle.

Sinai gave Torah.
Pentecost gave emotion.
One was real. The other was counterfeit.


THE TRINITY’S COLLAPSE IS COMPLETE

Here’s the full contradiction:

Jesus had the Spirit (Matthew 3).
But the Spirit wasn’t given (John 7:39).
Then he gave it by breath (John 20:22).
Then said to wait for it (Acts 1:.
Then it came again (Acts 2).

How many arrivals does one Spirit need?

And how many times can “God” fail to bring Torah?

The Spirit never came.
Or it came and failed.
Or Christianity lied.

Choose.


GOD IS A REFINING FIRE — AND THE JORDAN NEVER EVEN STEAMED

Deuteronomy 4:24 — “HaShem is a consuming fire.”
Exodus 33:20 — “No man can see Me and live.”
Isaiah 6 — The angels cover their faces before Him.
Shemot Rabbah 33:2 — Even the Shechinah burns unholiness.
Yoma 4b — The High Priest risks death with one mistake in God’s Presence.

So if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—all fully Godwere present at the baptism of Jesus:

Why didn’t anyone die?

Why didn’t the waters vaporize?

Because God wasn’t there.

Only a man. A voice. A dove.

God is a refining fire. And the Jordan River never even steamed.


FINAL CHALLENGE — UNANSWERABLE QUESTIONS

If Jesus had the Spirit, why say it hadn’t come?
If Jesus obeyed God, why did he break Torah?
If he breathed the Spirit, why did they still wait?
If he had power, why couldn’t he transfer it?
If Pentecost brought Spirit, why didn’t it bring Torah?

No Christian can answer all five without self-contradiction.

And that’s the end of the story.

CALL TO ACTION

If this shattered the lie—say so.
If you know someone still caught in it—send them this.
If God is one—defend His truth.

CanadaOrBust:
When they were asked who was their king they never answered God, nor was that recorded in writings

well, God is not lying. he cant lie.

CanadaOrBust:
I thought Saul was the king of Israel

the isrealites operated a theocratic monarchy. God was their king.
but he appointed humans to rule on his behalf.

AngelahFlo:
You're different because God isn't Marduk.
Forget what the Babylonians call Him.
This is where you miss it. The nations whose god you just listed especially the last 3 are heathen nations who worship a pantheon of gods. Any Being that deviates from the Being in the Bible isn't the real God.
You see when you hold to this view, you miss the point entirely. You begin to pray and believe in any being you consider supreme because of your belief. This itself is an error. God who name is Yahweh in Hebrew means "I Am"
Case in point: do the nations who worship these gods believe in one God aside their own various deities? There is one God and He's not Ra, Marduk, satan, lucifer etc.

You still did not get the point.

There is only one God and creator of all, it is just the name that is different.
There are a thousand and one languages on the planet, you can't expect them to have the same name for God, it does not make any sense.
The God of the Jews is not called yaweh, yaweh is one of the 70 sons of Enlil. Nobody knows the name of God now in Hebrew. When God sends his messiah and he builds the third temple, God will reveal his name to him.
The Jews just use Hashem. That same God and creator is called Chinese in Igbo language, it is called Eledumare in Yoruba, Osanobua in edo...etc. one God different names. Don't mix it.
There is one one God. All others are called "sons of God" which the yorubas call orisha. They represent laws and principles of life, satan is the orisha of the air. Devil is the orisha of darkness. Etc.

Dont be fixated on the jewish ideology. Thats why you keep missing the target...

FreeIgboho:
You don't understand. That was Jesus talking! Same old I AM! See below

So when did he say he was going to come to earth and which prophet did he tell that he will get another man's wife pregnant and become a child and be sacrificed to himself in other to forgive humans their sins.

FreeIgboho:
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My good brother I don't think this is the best way to go about this. We humans are given a very limited brain and also our senses perceive a tiny fraction of what is around us. There are things simply beyond our comprehension but which we know are true. Example, God listens to billions of prayers at once; another, God is localized in heaven yet same God is everywhere. You can't prove any of these with mathematics yet we know they are true.
Trinity (fullness of God in Jesus) is one such. It is a MYSTERY! It is unexplainable FROM HUMAM PERSPECTIVE, yet we KNOW it is true!
(DeepSight, sonmvayina, CanadaOrBust, what u say about this?)

isaiah 44 5-8
5. This one shall say, "I am the Lord's," and this one shall call himself by the name of Jacob, and this one shall write [with] his hand, "To the Lord," and adopt the name Israel.
6. So said the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer the Lord of Hosts, "I am first and I am last, and besides Me there is no god.
7. And who will call [that he is] like Me and will tell it and arrange it for Me, since My placing the ancient people, and the signs and those that will come, let them tell for themselves.
8. Fear not and be not dismayed; did I not let you hear it from then, and I told [it] and you are My witnesses; is there a god besides Me? And there is no rock I did not know.

so between you and the creator who is lying? be truthful for ones

AngelahFlo:
God is the Orisha that every other Orisha answers to. He is not a God who shares class with the ones he created. You're coming from the angle of a traditionalist I understand. Why is He referred to as the Eledumare? See don't get confused and don't make the mistake of putting God in the class of orishas like satan and lucifer. The ones mentioned are creatures, God is the Creator
The Uncreated
The Awamaridi (Mystery)
The Orisha that every other orisha respects

what did i say different.
i went as far to state the various priciples they represent.

god is one, Eledumare, Chineke, Osanobua, Hashem, Ra....Marduk. all various titles and names of the one creator.

of all the trees in the garden you can eat, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil at the centre of the garden, you shall not eat..for the day you eat of it, you shall surely die.

so that brings us to the next question

what is death?
we don't need to look too far,
Ans: for out of dust you were created and to dust you shall return
ecclesiastics 12:7 puts it in proper perspective, the body returns to dust where it was take
and the spirit back to God who gave it.


so folks, what is going to hell?"

FreeIgboho:
The prophet Micah specifically prophesied that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2). 
Several prophecies point to Jerusalem as the location of Jesus's future ministry and suffering. 
• Psalm 2:6 speaks of God anointing his king on Zion. 
• Psalm 110:4 refers to the priesthood of the Messiah, also associated with Jerusalem. 
• Zechariah 9:9 foretells the Messiah's arrival in Jerusalem on a donkey. 
• Zechariah 12:10 speaks of a time when people will mourn for him in Jerusalem. 
• Galilee:
Isaiah 9:1-2 prophesies that the ministry of Jesus would begin in Galilee. 
• Egypt:
Hosea 11:1 speaks of God calling his son out of Egypt, which is interpreted as a prophecy of Jesus's time in Egypt as a child. 
• Ramah:
Jeremiah 31:15 speaks of weeping in Ramah, which is connected to the Massacre of the Innocents in Matthew 2:17-18. 
• Other Locations:
Prophecies also mention other locations in relation to specific events, such as the potter's field (Zechariah 11:12-13) and places associated with his crucifixion. 

Do you want more?

i have real all the quote you provided in context, i did not see Jesus there?

why do you people like taking a text out of its proper context?

read the entire story, that is the only way to learn.

Gabrielshow24:
Aaaaawwwwwnn. what a lovely god🤔? Apart from these he keeps spawning himself in human shells—failing continuously to achieve his purpose.

This is some real feeling—replace this with that suitable word for human poo🤔, I'm afraid I can't use it here without triggering censorship 👀—It's comedic.

Well done 👍, you are ahead of your time😁.

when you grow up, this is what you will know.

like they say, milk for babies, meat for adults

you con continue sucking on your milk, when your teeth is strong enough, you will be introduced to fish and then meat.

so, everything in its own time.

Gabrielshow24:
Little children coming in droves asking the same question 🤔and yet not one of them cares to employ wisdom.

Like I have told your colleagues above. He is a union of both sets—Divine and temporal! They do not mix👀 nor are composite. He encapsulates them. Hence when he wants to, he becomes whatsoever he intends to—essence of I am! If he wills to display his divine capacity he can and when he wants he can as well display his human attributes.

Hahahahaha, that was so funny, I actually forgot to laugh. What is the wisdom in believing a woman got pregnant without the input of a man? ,

Gabrielshow24:
Why do like to tell lies? Josephus mentioned Jesus twice and Jesus' brother!
You need to do more research! The Jewish messiah is a king whose reign will reign forever🤨. Jesus, having the essence of God serves in the capacity has written by Paul— A Priestly King👑.

Also, You deny the gospels; you deny the historians that wrote about him. How then do you hope to confirm his existence? 😂 What will you use as a yardstick to comparatively deduce he existed🤨. Furthermore, lots of atheist before you have undertaken such study and they ended up with the conclusion he existed. Create your own methodology of proof if circumstantial evidence is not enough for you! —Good luck with that 🙃.

Mention "the son of God" only twice.
I want somebody who saw him and heard him speak and wrote about it. I don't want stories that popped up 300+ years later by people who never met him.
The gospels are all not admissible in this case. It has tonnes of contradictions. They were not even written by Jews at least they would have gotten the geography right and known that the sanhendrin don't meet at night or during the pass over and they also have the power to sentence somebody to death. ..
Nobody even knows who wrote them.
So try again

Gabrielshow24:
Indeed, I solely used extra biblical sources😮‍💨 which wrote about him. Also, the context fulfills the biblical Jesus.

No it doesn't.

So are you telling me that the son of God made an entrance into earth and nobody noticed to write it down. Even if they don't believe it?
Josephus write at length about mundane stuff, and only one line about the so called "son of God"? Common man.

He should be writing Epistles upon Epistles....but the silent is deafening ...

Gabrielshow24:
Doctor… we’ve got a loose patient over here. 😮‍💨 The ‘Hybrid Man’ strikes again.

First, he implies Christ a hybrid😂—as though we’re dealing with some mythological half-god, half-man figure out of Greek lore. The inconsistency is impressive. A hybrid, by definition, dilutes both sources. Yet the doctrine of the hypostatic union holds that Christ is fully God and fully man, not a composite or a compromise.

What you’re proposing isn’t a mystery—it’s a theological let down wrapped in sci-fi terminology. Please, keep going. The entertainment value is unmatched😂.

Who was crucified?

Who died ?

DeepSight:
No thanks. If you can't list them, I can't find them.

They don't want to accept the fact that they are wasting their lives believing a lie.

So within them, they just believe rather than doing a research to know for sure.

Gabrielshow24:
" that attested to Jesus"—Wrote about him. You have google, so query 🤨.

So you mean nobody actually saw him...what you are provided are hear say....

Please do better

Gabrielshow24:
Incredulous. We have been through this in several threads in times past. You have denied Josephus and every other historian that attested to Jesus, believing it to be 'ocum, you can as well take it a step further and disbelieve all historians because of your flimsy excuses.

Josephus said nothing about the Jesus in the Bible. There are about 3 jesuses in his work, but none match the one in the Bible.

Everybody knows the so called TF is an extrapolation. Probably by Eusebius, he was the first to quote from it.

Please, mention one person that actually saw him. You can't tell me the "son of God" made an entrance and nobody noticed it. There must be somebody who actually saw him and wrote something down in the first person. Not a third person narratives like the gospel......
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Please tell me.

The Messiah in Jewish theology is somebody who is anointed to the service of God, like a king or Priest. God can't be anointed to his own service. Does it make any sense. And messiah's are usually human, not divine in anyway. The Messiah God promised is coming to usher in an era of peace, no more oppression of any kind. No more wars. Isaiah actually says " Men will hammer their swords into ploghshares and learn of war no more....it has not happened....is it not better to continue to wait and hope rather than worship a pagan man- god?

I need proof that he existed. I will wait.

Are you scared of doing a research?

I don't belong to any camp because they are both based on ignorance.

There is one one God.
Satan, devil and Lucifer are what the Yoruba calls Orisha. They are personification of the laws and principles of life. The Bible calls them "the sons of God".....
They are not Gods.
Satan is the orisha of the air. Or Lord of the air or wind.
Devil is the orisha of darkness
Lucifer is orisha of love, war and death.

They are part of God. They are not evil. I wonder were people got the idea that they are evil. They only do what God has created them to do......

Gabrielshow24:
Thanks for you the mention but we all know, SpongeBob's friend is Patrick Star😅. Someone whose image you gladly fit. It's without doubt that a person called Jesus existed and was crucified. If Jesus is doubted as non-existent then all of history becomes dubious! Pls, take note and stop displaying puerile wisdom.

Talk is cheap
Please provide proof.

Or you just repeating what was indoctrinated into you.
Why are you not even trying to think for yourself?
Why are you so comfortable with being lied to?
Please can you provide one person that actually saw him and I will paste the picture of me and superman.