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God fashioned this body as an abode for his spirit, while the spirit is swelling within this body,we have to obey the laws of our creation in other to make the experience worthwhile...

It is about the laws and the land.....

God created human beings and gave us one very important gift,that is the ability and capacity to make choices..in other to guide us to make good and better choices,so that we can have a more fulfilling and purposeful life God gave humanity his laws..But only the jews and the igbos are the only ones to accept it , so they will forever remain God's chosen people. The jewish torah and the igbos Odinani are Gods laws,statues and customs that binds Gods people..

Torah and odinani of course, are meant to illuminate our world and our lives. It is also supposed to move us in a certain direction. The light of Torah/odinani directs us to that destination. And if you learn Them properly, it has the ability to actually project you and move you toward its goals of getting closer to our creator and of refining and purifying our personalities.

ANTIlSLAM:
Is Bible now your problem? I'm here to address your calamity

Lol..no,I have no need for it...I have never owned a copy since I was born..

ANTIlSLAM:
Are you aware that the law of Moses is in the Bible? Are you aware that World Oldest Book is Bible? If Bible is your problem just tell me

You believe in God's law that was given to Moses as recorded in Bible, can you see how confused being you are

Lol..Gods laws are universal...it was given to all humans..the Igbo's and jews are the only people to accept it...that is the Torah for jews and odinani for the igbos

ANTIlSLAM:
Make I laugh in Xinxung Is like you're ashamed to disclose your true identity.. Well God is not as confused as you are Mr man.

You are really shallow minded..you think we started following God when the white man gave us their bible..I really feel for you.

We were already following Gods laws thousands of years before the white man brought their bible..we had series of laws ,customs and traditions that where passed from generation to generation by words of mouth....

You really need to ask questions and learn.

Yom kurpor..

ANTIlSLAM:
Your problem is beyond curable, You don't believe in Islam and Christianity but you believe in God's law, your own atheist Believe there is God right? Or how come you believe in God's law, who thought you God's law, where did you read about God's law?

God taught me his laws,he wrote it in my heart when I was born and when I grew he made it clearer ...do I need to read a book to know I have to respect or honor my parents? Or know that murder is bad?..it is already in my conscience..

ANTIlSLAM:
But you believe in God's law as you said isn't it? Which kind confused being are you?

Isn't it the best thing to do.?..follow Gods laws..will god punish me for following his laws?..

Do not have any other god before me...no intermediary or mediator..so the creator recognize the existence of other gods ...before the romans even created Jesu's.

I am not really a fan of paul being the creator of Christianity..due to the fact that in all the episode attributed to him,he never spoke of somebody who just left earth..his Jesu's was some mythical figure that lived and died in the heavens...He never mentioned any of the things that Jesu's did even if it would have been the most convincing arguments..he never said anything about Jesu's sermon on the mount,transfiguration or betrayal..according to him all his information about Jesu's was through revelation..

God wants us to have a direct relationship with him,no intermediary or mediator..."I am the lord your god who brought you out of the land of Egypt and out of the house of bondage "YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GOD BEFORE ME

Is that not good enough..?I am sticking with that commandment.

BlueAngel444:
Sonmvayina You are right when the Messiah reigns, God's people will observe his commands and keep the covenant.

There was a period between David being anointed king by God and him being accepted as king by men.

And as you rightly pointed as Ezekiel 11:19 God will give us one heart and will put a new spirit in us. And that is the Holy Spirit the promised gift, the seal of salvation.

37:26 and yes Jesus said the peace I give you, not as that of the world. Being a covenant of peace.

which would be fulfilled but an ideology that will be propagated by an Antichrist using means other than salvation but violence to bring about pseudo -peace.

Zechariah 3:9; the Lord has removed the iniquities of his people by bringing forth his servant the Branch, the Messiah. That my friend in those verses spoke about the congregation of the Lord, the Eklessia.

The term Jew represents those who are of God, which is what happened to the apostles and the first men who heard and believed the message of Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior but even at that it is even more to come.

Every prophet and write, spoke and wrote based on the part that was revealed to them uses dark speeches and mysteries has God said he would. God uses the things of earth we know to try and relate the things of heaven and the future we do not know, to paint a picture of what will come.

God will be known in all the earth and his kingdom, his mountain, covers the earth in God's glory.

Before we talk about Zephaniah 3:9, we should first read Zephaniah 3:8 Therefore WAIT YE UPON ME,.. The Lord is coming to judge the eartg of it's wickedness. FOR THEN WILL HE gather his people to serve Him with one heart and one consent.

How many times did God say the messiah was coming? Was there a second coming arrangement?

ANTIlSLAM:
What am I saying what's this one saying..

If according to you allah is ONE why using plural words such as US, WE, OUR, etc in refering to himself, herself or itself as read in Quran?

Secondly, Check for the meaning of EVERLASTING and come back here again and judge yourself if King Hezekiah is alive till today

I dont know anything about islam. I think both christianity and islam are rebranded paganism..from babylon..read the chapter from begining to end and judge for yourself if it refers to Jesu's...

Ken4Christ:
Your spirit is more than a breath. It is the real you. Your body looks like your spirit. We can call it identical twins. Your spirit can be out of your body and you will still look complete and even see your lifeless body. The only difference is that you can't make contact with the physical world with your spirit.

When a man dies, his spirit or soul lives the body in complete form as his body. His soul goes to hell if he is not born again.

During the judgment, he will be resurrected with his body to face the final judgment. After judgment, his body and soul will be cast into the Lake of fire.

When did God say all these ?..through which prophet ?.

Ken4Christ:
Your spirit is more than a breath. It is the real you. Your body looks like your spirit. We can call it identical twins. Your spirit can be out of your body and you will still look complete and even see your lifeless body. The only difference is that you can't make contact with the physical world with your spirit.

When a man dies, his spirit or soul lives the body in complete form as his body. His soul goes to hell if he is not born again.

During the judgment, he will be resurrected with his body to face the final judgment. After judgment, his body and soul will be cast into the Lake of fire.

The man is the soul..at death the spirit goes to the person who gave it ..ie God and the body back to the earth..so which one goes to hell? The spirit is god spirit and the body is dust from the earth...

So explain again..

Dtruthspeaker:
haha, I was coming to add that Now You Must Move to Another Stupid Issue, because you can not validly counter but I then saw that you were here already, AND YOU HAVE PROVEN IT ABOVE ALREADY!

so as I have told you before, be the devil you are.



See what who went to school says up there!
"The only way to communicate with God is through an oracle..."

For saying "communicate with God" you are talking about.man picking up the phone of an oracle, to talk to God, WHICH IS NOT THE ISSUE!

So I therefore ask oh ye, Educated One, Does God need to pick up an Oracle's phone to call you?

You continue to shame and ridicule thyself!

I don't really know where to begin education from...I dont want to concur that you are a lost cause..but it is lookinqqg like that..I think a good first step will be for you to see a psychiatrist..asap

Dtruthspeaker:
Sonmavayina, sonmavayina... crapcrapcrapcrap, You are raising up an event which occurred Only in What people call the new testament, therefore, the Proof of it by what people wrongly call new testament, is inevitable.

I am very well schooled far better than you and I do read better than you as Proven even Hereunder!

You stupidly and wrongfully hang on to this statement below, Inspite of its inherent flaws



Yet, You who went to school, Did Not Take Account that before the prophets, God Was, and He Spoke Directly, to anyone, in what you people call the old testament BOTH PUBLICLY (As Evidenced in Mt Sinai) And PRIVATELY (Noah, Abraham, Moses and your Amos).

Yet, you who went to school, is concentrating on only the Private Communications of God.

Tell me, schooled one, do you think that God, being Who He Is, can be Limited to only one type of communication? (Even the baby of my home in primary school knows the answer).

You shame yourself!

Lol..you answer the question..God is the divine consciousness personified..not a genie or a jewish man up in the sky...

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man or human being...

The only way to communicate with God is through an oracle...any other way is a waste off time..that is why the prophet always says "thus says that lord...."

BlueAngel444:
I'm not trying to convince you sha

About you first tell me what are those "indications" that make you think Jesus was a made up character?

Here are Clear Undisputed Prophecies About Messiah, Who he will be and What he will do. How Many Did J-s Fulfill?
* The Messiah must be from the Tribe of Judah and a Descendant of King David AND King Solomon, not Jeconiah, through his human biological father. Genesis 49:10, 2 Samuel 7:12-14; 1 Chronicles 17:11-14, 22:9-10, 28:4-6; Jeremiah 23:5, 33:17; Jeremiah 22:30, 36:30, Psalm 89:35-37. Genealogy in the Bible is only passed down from father to son Numbers 1:1-18.

J-s didn't have this genealogy, he didn't have a birth father from the Tribe of Judah, in the line from King David and Solomon, not Jeconiah. He had a virgin birth according to Matthew and Luke. And even if he didn't have virgin birth neither genealogy in Matthew 1 or Luke 3 can produce a King to be the Messiah. In Luke 3 the genealogy doesn't go through Solomon as required and in Matthew 1 the genealogy is rejected because it goes though Jeconiah.
II Samuel 7:12-14, I Chronicles 17:11-14, 22:9-10, 28:4-6, Jeremiah 22:30,36:30.

* When Messiah is reigning as King the Jews will be ingathered from their exile and will return to Israel Deut. 30:3; Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 30:3, 32:37; Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24. This didn't happen, the Jews were dispersed widely after the death of J-s.

* When Messiah comes the Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt and sin sacrifices will be fully instituted Isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20; Ezekiel 37:26-27, 45:17-46:16; Malachi 3:4; Zech. 14:20-21. The Temple was destroyed after the death of J-s.

* When Messiah comes there will be Worldwide Reign of Peace and complete end to war Micah 4:1-4; Hoseah 2:20; Isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18. There are still wars upon wars.

* When Messiah is reigning as King all of the Jewish people will observe Torah Ezekiel 37:24; Deut. 30:8,10; Jeremiah 31:32; Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27. Everyone is not obeying Torah the world is filled with rebellion to the Most High.

* When Messiah comes all the people of the world will come to acknowledge and serve the one true Elohim Zechariah 3:9, 8:23,14:9,16; Isaiah 45:23, 66:23; Jeremiah 31:33; Ezekiel 38:23; Psalm 86:9; Zeph. 3:9.

* J-s didn't fulfill any prophecies about Messiah. He didn't have a human biological father in the royal kingly line, the Jews have not ingathered from their exile, the third Temple has not been rebuilt, there is not world wide peace, there is still war, all the Jewish people are not observing Torah and not all people are serving the Most High.

BlueAngel444:
I'm not trying to convince you sha

About you first tell me what are those "indications" that make you think Jesus was a made up character?

I will recommend two books for you..

https://www.amazon.com/Christ-Conspiracy-Greatest-Story-Ever/dp/0932813747

https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Jews-Never-Knew-Historical/dp/1578849160

BlueAngel444:
I'm not trying to convince you sha

About you first tell me what are those "indications" that make you think Jesus was a made up character?

First and foremost he did not write anything.so we don't know what his mission was.if he was a jew then he would have known that the Torah is Gods laws and no one has the right to alter it.

Secondly there is no writting from anyone who knew him personally..the four gospel are written by unknown authors and written in the third person..

Thirdly all the stories about him and all he said where all thought by sages before him..there is nothing original about him ..

4thly There is no where it says god have a son from a human mother,is that even possible ?..

Dtruthspeaker:
Before Moses Presented the Law of the Sacrifice of Sin Offering, Trespass and Atonement, was there one before? No, there was not!

Was it Not God Who Issued these Instructions of Sacrifice of Sin Offerings, Trespass and Atonement?

Therefore, When God Says "And there came a voice out of the cloud, (as it was in Mount Sinai) saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him." Is this not sufficient communication from God, Instructing us, that we can not go wrong if we Listen to He Who is called Jesus, The Christ?

If God Himself, On High, From On High has Directly and without the use of any Prophet, Told You to Listen to The Christ, the choice and decision of either listening to God or directly disobeying Him is yours to make, for yourself.

I have heeded that High Instruction and I shall Always hearken to it without deviation or reservation.

Dtruthspeaker,Dtruthspeaker...nananananana, you are using the new testament to prove the new testament..you went to school right..I expected more from you...do better.

Amos3:7 says "God reveal it to his servant the proohet before it happens"...so which prophet did God reveal it to?

BlueAngel444:
from the very beginning aka foundation of the world

I want to assume you have at least finished secondary school..you know that is not an answer...so please do better, which prophet proohesied this solution ? When did God reveal it ..I really want to come to your side,but you have to least be more convincing..from all indication this jesus character is made up...convince me otherwise..

ANTIlSLAM:
So "US" is a singular word according to you right?




Is King Hezekiah still alive till today? Or you don't know what "EVERLASTING" means again? I will beseech thee to use dictionary and search for the meaning of Everlasting, after that make proper use of your senses

Let us (God the father providing the spirit +God the mother (earth) providing the dust for the body) make man in our own image after our likeness ..God provided the spirit or breath and the earth provided the dust for God to fashion it in the shape of a man...at death,the body returns to the earth where it was taken and the spirit back to god who gave it...

Read it properly ,it is God who calls his name the prince of peace ..

Kobojunkie:
The Mosaic Law did not end with His sacrifice. That belief is a myth in itself. Jesus Christ's death never ended the Mosaic law and it certainly did not end God's declaration from the beginning that man would die and go back to dust from whence He was made either.
What Jesus Christ's "sacrifice" did was pay the price necessary for those who would choose to accept Him. Matter of fact, it was mainly for the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who were formerly bound by blood to the Mosaic Law. Gentiles were not bound to the Mosaic Laws by blood and so were simply unbelievers who were able to come to God through Jesus Christ.

Whose idea was that as per the bolded? This has been our axe ,me and you and me and Dtruthspeaker, when did God concieve this idea ? Of sending "his son"(sic) to as a sin sacrifice.?

Ken4Christ:
God doesn't send you to hell, your decision does.

Hell was originally prepared for the devil and his angels who rebelled against God because they don't have redemption.

But because the first man transgressed God's word and came under the dominion of Satan, they are bound to the same destination by the law of binding precedent.

So, we were all doomed for hell until Jesus came to pay for the sins of mankind.

So, those who believe in the finished work of Christ can make a u turn and head for heaven instead.

Those who don't believe will continue in the same direction of hell. So, the choice is yours.

Human being are made up of spirit from god and body from the earth..which one is going to hell?

Let us make man in our own image after our likeness....so God formed man from the dust of the earth.and breathered through his nostrils and man became a living soul..

So is it gods breath that is going to hell or dust from the earth?.

Dtruthspeaker:
See, Fresh Issue, New Ground (as I said earlier) because you can Never Rebut the Established Truth Instructed by the Lord, our God!

Do not ever say no one has answered you for I have always answered you and you could Never Reply!

You can have the last word, I leave you be!

In which of those was a human being used ?

truthmans2012:
Was Hezekiah referred to as Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace?

Read it in context from begining to end..

truthmans2012:
Was Hezekiah referred to as Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace?

That is what his name means..my wife's name was Elena Nwachukwu before I married her..Nwachukwu means child of God

BroProsper:
This could only be God.

He was still the one that tied her womb...bad thing happen nah God,good thing happen nah still God..

GeneralDae:
Do you believe paul existed?

Paul is a christian creation..john Chrysostom was caught editing the works of Apolinius of Tyna.,and passing them of as works of paul...

https://www.jesusneverexisted.com/saul-paul.htm

Dtruthspeaker:
And I answered, that it is in compliance with the Law of Sin Offering, Burnt Offering, Offerings of Atonement, Law of the Trespass Offering, Law of Peace Offerings (Leviticus 3,4,5,6,7, 15:30/31; 16:3) which is to Prevent you from Dying In your Uncleanness and Trespass/Sins!

He who does not wish to die in his sins and trespasses, complies with the Law of Sins Offering for the purging and washing away of his sins/offences/Trespass.

Now, you I predict you must shift to a Fresh Issue and a New Ground!

Have you seen a psychiatrist? Like I suggested..seems you have not....so in which of those was a human being as single sacrifice allowed..you can hold on to your idolatry..it is no body's business..