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Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 6:47pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
And I approached [my wife] the prophetess, and when she had conceived and borne a son, the Lord said to me, Call his name Maher-shalal-hash-baz [as a continual reminder to the people of the prophecy],

1. Not a virgin

But then again how young was Isaiah and his wife when this was written cheesy

A virgin mean a young UNMARRIED woman grin ya you should figure out by now I know a bit of hebrew cheesy

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.


We know that God is not a man that he should lie nor the son of man that he should CHANGE HIS MIND grin
Not virgin...it was a sign for king Ahaz it was to assure him that the two kings plotting against him will not succeed..
There was a time frame given for the sign..
Before the boy knows to shun evil and choose good,the land which two kings you fear will be deserted....read it in context..

No fall my hand.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 6:44pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
physical danger you mean DEATH cheesy cheesy


So are you saying the sin offering in mosaic law was a lie grin
It is men who want to do over sabi
.".a broken heart you will not spin..." So God ordered a goat without blemish..for the requirements read leviticus 4 and 5..NEVER A HUMAN BEING.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 6:41pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
well technically God sent men like Abraham, Joseph, Moses, Joshua, Gideon, Samson, etc etc

2 Chronicles 7:14 just agrees with the new covenant that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved and delivered. That is faith cool but in contest wasn't that part in Chronicles written concerning physical problems like you said and not sin cheesy
Yes..from physical danger...but he said he will forgive and heal their land..no human sacrifices
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 6:40pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
illness is weakness of the body. Don't you know hunger is a disease, people die from hunger

Jesus went hungry several times, how person go feel if dem never chop for more than one month.

Jesus took upon his body the sin and sickness of the people and bore them to death.
Lol..you are very funny..
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 6:10pm On Sep 29, 2020
When God spoke of salvation in the old testament,it is always from physical danger...not sin..
All God desires when one sins is a sincere repentance ..no human sacrifice was ever ordered or required..
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 6:07pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
I am not that bold nor stupid to add to God's word or change it's meaning that's just dumb. cheesy

But we know He ALSO spoke to Israel because it says in verse 14 of that 41

Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the Lord, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.

grin
God is and has always been their savior...from their enemies round them..for the solution to the problem of sin,he has already given them..2nd chronicles 7:14
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 6:05pm On Sep 29, 2020
You are just clutching on straws..you find it hard to accept that jesus is a roman creation because you have invested your whole life on it..

Talk true..I used to be a mass server ,...so there is nothing I dont know about Christianity ..so when I tell you jesus I a roman idol ..believe me.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 6:02pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
you are right a far better translation indeed, at least it left out the crap that author added cheesy

Despised and rejected by men, a man of pains and accustomed to illness, and as one who hides his face from us, despised and we held him of no account.

The truth testified of him, the lamb who is at the right hand of God, the one called the right hand of God whom God uses to save his people grin
Was jesus accustomed to illness ?
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 6:00pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
lol and we do know a married woman is not a virgin cheesy tongue
The original hebrew word ia Alma which means a young woman ....common,if it was virgin isaiah would be bombaded with questions..or at least clarified it...read it to verse 19.

Do you know how I know it was isaiahs son..read 8:18
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 5:58pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
you are right a far better translation indeed, at least it left out the crap that author added cheesy

Despised and rejected by men, a man of pains and accustomed to illness, and as one who hides his face from us, despised and we held him of no account.

The truth testified of him, the lamb who is at the right hand of God, the one called the right hand of God whom God uses to save his people grin
You sneaked that in...israel ie jacob is the man..God already said that in chapter 41
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 5:55pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
and the virgin shall be with child... etc etc I believe it's in one chapter in one of the major prophets writing cheesy I'm sure you know the rest of that verse
It is isaiah 7:1 -19. The woman is question is isaiah's wife..the child is Isaiah second son,the sign was for king Ahaz,it was to assure him that the two kings plotting against him will not succeed..
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 5:51pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
cheesy who said it was sudden grin
Which old testament prophet mentioned Gid having a son..last time I checked ,you need a woman or wife to beget a son.


Apart from God calling israel his first born son..
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 5:49pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
to be anointed means to be appointed right, to be chosen and recognized.

Was Jesus recognized by God? Yes he was.

Did God use a prophet and one with the blood of a priest to declare him anointed and chosen by God? Yes his name is John the baptist son of the priest Zachariah.

Was oil poured on the head of Joshua cheesy did God not choose him and use him like he did many other leaders of his people.

You might think taking a small part of my post to make a point would prove something but it would only be as meaningless as when the devil quoted part psalms to Jesus who understood the complete message and meaning. cheesy cool
Who recognized him?..who did God tell he had a son he was sending to die for sins..where are you getting this info?
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 5:47pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
oh have you not read where the LORD God said, in a book written by a major prophet, that he will bring in a new covenant and do away with the old.

Oh, or what about the other prophets that wrote and spoke about this new covenant and promise of God upon his people.

Every word of God RETURNS to God FULFILLED.

The laws of moses had a purpose, don't you know cheesy
Hahahaha funny you..quote the prophet and chapter..
The new convenant was a convenant of ever lasting peace that the messiah will usher in ..has it happened ?No oo

Just by the way side,why was it necessary for Go to suddenly have a son ?
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 5:20pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
is it not interesting how you didn't respond to the Daniel I gave you

How you skipped the bolded cheesy

But He was wounded and crushed for our sins. He was beaten that we might have peace. He was whipped, and we were healed! All of us have strayed away like sheep. We have left God’s paths to follow our own. Yet the Lord laid on Him the guilt and sins of us all. From prison and trial they led Him away to His death. But who among the people realized that He was dying for their sins – that He was suffering their punishment? I will give Him the honors of One who is mighty and great, because He exposed Himself to death. He was counted among those who were sinners. He bore the sins of many and interceded for sinners.” (Isaiah 53:5-6, 8, 12)

I purposely didn't bold it the first time to see if you would read it or not gringrin and indeed you likely skipped it

lmao, I will view the link you posted eh, I'm coming o cheesy
Read a better translation..

https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/15984
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 5:18pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
speaking about the death of the messiah
Prophet Daniel
Read Daniel 9:20-27, especially verses 26 and 27
You are just throwing verses here and there without evening reading them in context..it is talking about an anointed king or high preist...

Jesus was not anointed ,or was he ?..anointed with a special oil....

So my friend the passage can not refer to Jesus...maybe Herod or one of the later kings.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 5:08pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
None spoke against the ten commandments not even Jesus, but the mosaic law ended with his sacrificesmiley
When did God say his laws where going to come to an end ? Or you are just been miss lead ?

When did God plan the jesus sacrifice? As a replacement for his laws ?
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 4:22pm On Sep 29, 2020
BlueAngel444:
Sonmvayina here is an interesting scripture for you to read.

But He was wounded and crushed for our sins. He was beaten that we might have peace. He was whipped, and we were healed! All of us have strayed away like sheep. We have left God’s paths to follow our own. Yet the Lord laid on Him the guilt and sins of us all. From prison and trial they led Him away to His death. But who among the people realized that He was dying for their sins – that He was suffering their punishment? I will give Him the honors of One who is mighty and great, because He exposed Himself to death. He was counted among those who were sinners. He bore the sins of many and interceded for sinners.” (Isaiah 53:5-6, 8, 12)
What am I supposed to do with this ?...it is talking about a suffering servant..and time after time isaiah told you the servant was israel....12 chapters prior 42:7-9.

Please update your knowledge.

https://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Isaiah_53_The_Suffering_Servant.html?mobile=yes

Please read the above ,no knowledge is lost
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did God Allow Some People To Still Suffer Despite Being Devoted by sonmvayina(m): 3:35pm On Sep 29, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
And this is why I call you foolish and very blind! Even when you have eyes, you see not.

I have answered you severally and you could not rebut. So let me give you a different answer today.

It is the Law, A Creator Does whatever He Likes!
Benjamin Holt, a creator, made the Caterpillar and put himself in it and came out of it.

Mr Toyoda, Carl Benz, Henry Ford, Maybach all creators themselves, made the Camry, Mercedes Benz, Ford, Maybach and put themselves into Their creations and came out of it.

The Wright Brothers put themselves into their creations, the Aeroplane and came out of it.

I have told you before, that, that is the Power of a Creator, He Can Do Anything He Desires to Do, but your spiteful wicked soul will not let you hear.

This is Not a Novelty but in line with the Usual Practices and Laws, of Creators!
Indeed, so why did he punish satan when he did what he liked..according to you..

You are really not well at all..
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did God Allow Some People To Still Suffer Despite Being Devoted by sonmvayina(m): 1:44pm On Sep 29, 2020
The God or the god that the Christian worship is it the creator huh

Can a creator give birth to a childhuh

Because a creator is always known with the ability to create not the ability to impregnate...

So can a woman born for a creator and that child will be a holy sonhuh

How can that son be holy??

The Bible said that there are 3 gods in one...

God the Father...
God the son and God of the Holy Spirit....

So why removing the woman that gave birth to the son from the holy Trinityhuh

It Should be God the Father, Goddess of Mother and the Son....

This makes lots of sense.

But the people who wrote the Bible wanted to give us a figure in the human form as a God for us to see the figure as the most supreme so that we call him a holy son...

If that God was that powerful to give us a holy son why didn't he have to do that without a womanhuh?

That's to tell you that the creator is different from the god the Christians has been teaching us to believe...

I accepted that Jesus is God, marry is a goddess but to say that the creator is the father to Jesus is a lie...

The creator of the universe is unknown..

But he or she certainly is not a God of the Christian..

Some call it Nature...

So I will certainly settles with (Nature)

Yes there are many gods in the universe...

Every part of the world has a God or gods that rules their lands...

That's is why even in the Bible there were many nations with many gods...

The God of Israelites seem to be called the supreme among the rest in the old testament...

And their God was winning many battles for them...

Sometimes they left their God and started worshiping another God and their God will become jealousy and started killing them and cursing them...

So every land have their God or the goddess...

African nations have their gods and goddess...

But we abandoned ours and started to follow the God of Israelites because their book promised us heaven...

African gods and goddess started killing us and cursing us too..

That's why you see many communities are in ruin...

They told you that the shrine is killing you and doesn't allow you to progress...

You call a pastor and go and destroy it..

All of you are dying premature..

Suffer from year to year to no progress...

You have gone from church to church no deliverance...

That is to proof there are gods here in Africa that shouldn't be messed up with...

Just because the missionaries gave us Three Gods in One and promised us mansions in heaven...

They completed the brainwashing by given us fake salvation...

And promised us Everlasting life...

But we to die first before we can have the everlasting life...

And Africa started dying...

Since I was be born till now...

I can tell you of how many people I knew that died and many that has reincarnated I know...

So why are there reincarnating when there should be waiting for trumpet to receive judgement and be enjoying their Mansions in heaven but they are coming back to Earth reincarnatinghuh

This is to say nature is indeed the creator...

We go back to where we came from and return back afresh...

Is there anything that doesn't go back where it was formedhuh

Everything on Earth goes back into the Earth...

Nothing is natural that came from the land(soil) Earth that doesn't return back to Earth...

If you build a house one day the house will fall and return back to nature...

Tree will grow old and die and return back to Nature.

The fish will die in the sea and return back to Nature.

You dig well in your house to be fetching water from and you also dig a sucker way pit where water will return back to Earth (nature)

Anything from ground that goes up returns back naturally...

So that's the way it's...

We are born, we live and die and go back to the creator (nature)

If Jesus truly came from heaven why did he has to be buried back again into the Earthhuh

So that's to proof he was a product of Nature just like me and you..

Yes it was a flesh that gave birth to him (Mary)

He may have possessed supernatural power through reincarnation...

As the Bible said he was Elijah who is to come...

That could have made him very unique individual...

The same supernatural power me and you could possess from reincarnation through our Chi...

Most of us it's the gods or deities that reincarnated us...

Purpose for special assignment to humanity...

So let every region focus on their gods for the development of their region...

Bible God and Jesus has never develop Africa rather we have been destroyed and ruined because of them...

Many families, sons and daughters are lost in their own land because of God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...

And funny enough Jesus can't save us from the powers that is terrorising us from home/foundation...

Because the gods and goddess that is in charge here is most superior than the God who promised you salvation in the name of Jesus...

That stuff can't work here perfectly, because African Land is so powerful...

If it has been working then why haven't you and I exprience great turnaround following Christianityhuh

We Africans pray the most...

We go to church from Sunday, Monday, Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday...And Sunday again..

From year to year...

Yet no results...

The only people who seems to experience results are pastors, pastors children and pastors committed friends...

You have only have to wait for trumpet and received Judgment...

Judgement that you know with all truth that you won't make it...

Because poverty will not allow you to make heaven...

You leave the church and go and find means to survive...

At the end you commit sin...

Just because you want to survive...

There is no platform for you as an African man or woman struggling to survive to make heaven...

Forget.. No way...

But listen...

We have salvation before the missionaries came with the gospel...

But we lost our salvation after the missionaries arrival due to deceit and brainwashing...

The good news is that you can still find your lost salvation again...

Today ask anyone who has successfully aligned with his or her forces...

Ask them they will tell you how happy life has been after their alignment...

No more complications...

Some of us are now enjoying our heavens on Earth...

So if you want to be saved, then Go back to your roots...

May the gods be praised...
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did God Allow Some People To Still Suffer Despite Being Devoted by sonmvayina(m): 1:43pm On Sep 29, 2020
ciro11:
God did not create evil because everything He created was good. But He created all intelligent creatures (man & angels) with the ability to choose either Good or bad ( free will). He did this because He wants them to worship Him out of love. Evil came to be from the misuse of the gift of free will by one of His Angels who later came to be known as Satan because of his rebellious act. He craved what belonged to His creator, His father and God and this cravings moved him to action, to do what he thinks would make him to get the worship that God alone deserves.
You watch to many science fiction movies....and you have lost track of reality..

There is no where in all the epic that satan wanted GOds position..satan is god of the air,devil is god of darkness..without them you can not survive ...that is the job God has given them to do..

It is lucifer that rose her self to the pantheon..she was never a member of the Elohim .satan and devil where members...that is the highest divine council of God..she took up the role of goddess of death, andshe asked to be included in the pantheon as a condition for being the goddess of death.no other god wanted to take that role..so she was elevated to it....as they have to be only seven ,ninmah was droped and inanna was added to it..so she became a supreme deity too...it is quite interesting epic..

https://www.encyclopedia.com/environment/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/inanna
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 1:07pm On Sep 29, 2020
Amos 3:7 says 'God does nothing without first revealing it to his servants the prophets'.so which prophet did God reveal to that he had a son and was sending him as a sacrifices for sin ,and that we have to kill him and believe that he died for us in other to be saved from a hell that he created...

Waiting patiently for answers..
Christianity EtcRe: If You Have A Question Ask by sonmvayina(m): 1:03pm On Sep 29, 2020
I have a question that nobody seem to want to adress .please can you help me out...

Through which old testament prophet did God Admonish people to believe in the death of the messiah in other to be saved ,rather than obeying his laws and commandments..?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Is Not An Earthly Bank That Loses What Has Been Saved by sonmvayina(m): 12:53pm On Sep 29, 2020
jefff455:
sir I have a question about this eternal security doctrine does it mean we can commit sin on our deathbed and be sure of heaven because we are already saved
Saved from what?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did God Allow Some People To Still Suffer Despite Being Devoted by sonmvayina(m): 8:32am On Sep 29, 2020
The deeper the wound,the greater the growth of the spirit..Sadam Hussien
Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Traditional Believers by sonmvayina(m): 8:44am On Sep 28, 2020
GeneralDae:
Yes God is one lord ( john 17v3, Matthew 12, Mark, etc)
So what is the role of Jesus in the equation..?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by sonmvayina(m): 8:43am On Sep 28, 2020
ANTIlSLAM:
See how this one has been brainwashed
You just don't want to accept the fact that you have wasted your whole life on a fictional character... I know how hard it can be... But no matter how far you have gone on the wrong road, you must turn back.. Turn back bro
Christianity EtcRe: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by sonmvayina(m): 8:40am On Sep 28, 2020
ANTIlSLAM:
So "US" is a singular word according to you right?




Is King Hezekiah still alive till today? Or you don't know what "EVERLASTING" means again? I will beseech thee to use dictionary and search for the meaning of Everlasting, after that make proper use of your senses
God called his name "the prince of peace"..
Christianity EtcRe: I'm Gradually Turning To An Atheist, Is This Normal? by sonmvayina(m): 8:38am On Sep 28, 2020
shadeyinka:
So, you successfully convinced yourself to be a self announced examiner with no credential other than noisemaking!!!
Sorry to engage you. I thought you had a spark of intelligence for a little critical thinking.

OK, so what have you said?.











What a Self glorified self appointed examiner with no iota of ability for his noised critical thinking!
Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Traditional Believers by sonmvayina(m): 11:19pm On Sep 27, 2020
GeneralDae:
That's the problem, what story are you talking about? Matthew interprets Isaiah 7v14 to say jesus was born of a virgin, john and Mark do not say so in their writings, and paul had some of the earliest writings of christianity, where do you see this virgin birth story in paul's writing?
You are deliberately focusing on irrelevant things. The new testament does not say either that jesus is messaiah because he was born of a virgin, in all books when jesus was told to prove he is messaiah or son of God, he never said he is son of God because he is born of virgin.
You actually know nothing in this matter, and not willing to just read the gospels yourself, so I think I would allow you be.
So he is useless then and a Distraction ..focus on the creator.. God is one lord.. Deuteronomy 6:4
Christianity EtcRe: I'm Gradually Turning To An Atheist, Is This Normal? by sonmvayina(m): 10:21pm On Sep 27, 2020
shadeyinka:
The ball is in your court!
How do?.. I gave a class work, you have not finished it.. Finish and submit it let me mark and grade you...

Write a composition on the creator, using your own idea.. Not what you read from a book..
Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Traditional Believers by sonmvayina(m): 10:17pm On Sep 27, 2020
GeneralDae:
lol, jesus was never called a demi god. I know where your confusion lies. Also son of God both in Tanakh and new testament can also be a servant of God.
The new testament calls jesus a servant of God several times and even in the book of john, jesus called himself a man sent by God. It seems you've not read the new testament for yourself, your knowledge of christianity is based on hearsay, shallow criticism of christianity, conspiracy theorists, and what you perceive to be new testament christianity from other Christians. I see that you don't know much about the new testament writings. Read the gospels for yourself and critical scholarship surrounding the jesus story, then make your arguments from there not from hear say.
LOL.. But the story says he is a demi God, father is a God and mother a human being.. You don't really understand anything..

Did God ever say anywhere in the old testament that he will impregnate another man's wife to born the Messiah? If so point it out..

If not, then I am right in saying Jesus is a Roman creation..

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