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Ken4Christ:
He never existed yet your birthday is with reference to him. Use your brain. Jesus is the centre of history. Whether it BC and AD or BCE and CE dating calendar, it all revolves around Jesus. And you can't escape Jesus. You either receive him as your Lord and Saviour or meet him as your judge. Your eyes will clear.

That is the hand work of pope Gregory the great.
Another pope is on record to say
"How beneficial this myth of christ has been for us and our predecessors...." Pope pius X. It's all myth...not real. Don't you see the evil they all do in the Vatican. Those those guys look like been serious. Or you think if it was real, they would give it to you?
Don't use your tongue to count your teeth.

SIRTee15:
We talking about Jesus when he was here on earth!!!
Nobody is making reference to God dying for anybody's sin.
What Jesus did was self sacrifice....he died that we may live.
Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.
John 15.13

Above is definition of what Jesus did; and this is not human sacrifice. Human sacrifice is only in your head.

The issue of repentance by blood has been thrashed.
If God can forgive just by asking, why did he tell Israelites to sacrifice animals and use their blood to atone for sins.

Don't come here with that thoughtless defence of there other ways God forgive sin because what U indirectly saying is BLOOD SACRIFICE IS ONE OF THE WAYS GOD FORGIVES SIN.

Therefore U admitting that God forgive sin through blood sacrifice. And that's exactly what I'm asking U.

Why did God Israelites to atone for sin with animal blood sacrifice?

How does somebody injury benefit somebody else..

How does my injury help you to pay your rent?

How does a mans death benefit anybody? I don't understand..please enlighten me the spiritual implications and benefits.
I don't understand.

Human sacrifice....NEVER A HUMAN.
The animal must be blemish...

Killing a human. For any kind of sacrifice is evil and demonic.

Don't you understand?

Except you are advising God that animal sacrifice won't be enough, and has decided to offer him a human being.

Kingsempires:
Christian God is Jesus christ,mulsim God is allah,JW God is jehovah e.t.c.the way you believe in your God is the way other people believe in their God.so don't call someone God a dead man

But don't you think worshipping a man as God is tantamount to idolatry?
I just want to open their eyes...

Ken4Christ:
I live in the supernatural because Jesus lives in me. Let him into your life and you will understand what I am saying. He gives your life a meaning. Christ in me makes me supernatural.

Indian hemp is not good for you.
Stop smoking it...

A dead Jew who never existed, only on a book written by unknown authors..

My friend, grow up, all these Jesus bull shit is for toddlers.

How old are you anyway ?

seunowa:
You are obviously missing out on the context of numbers 23:19....
The Bible passage is clearly saying that God is not a man that lies, changes his mind and reneges on his promises.
God speaks and acts, he promises and fulfill.
The passage has nothing to do with whether God cannot exist in flesh. For whatever God says he will surely accomplish unlike man.

In Leviticus 26:12, God says " I will live with them and walk among you. I will be their God and they will be my people". God accomplished this promise when He became flesh in Jesus Christ.

God is omnipresent...do you know what that means...

Several places should that Jesus lied...so he is trillions of miles from being holy...

Steep:
your god, is only exist in your deluded mind.

At least he is not a dead Jew with no evidence that he loved.

My God lives within me...

SIRTee15:
If a father rescue his child who is drowning but lost his own life while saving his child...
Will U call that human sacrifice or self sacrifice

Yes, because he sacrificed his own life for the child, it is what any father would do....
Not God, God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent....
He does not die and does not need to...
The story says Jesus was tried and executed. He died because he is a human being...
God only asked us for a sincere repentance and he would forgive...that is what a loving father would do...not send somebody to die ( whatever that means) after giving an instruction "thou shall not kill"

Does not make sense my brother.

Ken4Christ:
I won't die. I will only sleep in the Lord.

You are not well are you..

Is that not what I have been saying that death is an illusion..

Grow up my friend and keep up...

Steep:
confused and brainwashed man. All records and archeology proved Jesus is a real person. Your god remains an illusion.

Jesus is a creation of the Roman empire..

My God is the eternal spirit responsible for creation.
Not a dead Jew that was created by Constantine....

SIRTee15:
There's no human sacrifice anywhere except in your head
What Jesus did is called self sacrifice.

For who
For what?

Which human is not going to die?
What did ken saro wiwa do?

Be deluding yourself..

seunowa:
Jesus Christ is God in human flesh. God did that because of his immense love for humanity, God took away our sin and nail it his body in Christ Jesus and in turn gave those who believe on his works on the cross his righteousness so that we can obtain eternal life. Please do not mock his works he did for you and everyone in Christ Jesus.

Read Numbers 23:19

seunowa:
Even if our gospel is veiled it is veiled to those who are perishing. The gods of this age have blinded you so that you can not see the light of the knowledge God whose reality is in Christ, the image of God.

Even if he existed how is he different from us..
Wbe worshipping a man as God. Hope you know the meaning of idolatry..continue. you will soon begin to grind your teeth.

SIRTee15:
Answer this question
Who should I believe, U or ancient rabbinical Jews who compiled the tanakh

No sane jew ever believed there was Jesus in that passage... believe what you want...
God hates human sacrifice...

Steep:
No evidence that your god is real all you have is your delusion, any body can claim anything what separation facts from fiction is evidence. your god is an illusion,just a figment of your imagination.

My God Jesus became a man and lived among humans leaving behind historical records of him, his place of birth is known, the family he came through is known, he did works no human could ever do, his teachings are with us and no human philosophy or logic is close to the excellency of his teachings, he defeated death and ascended to heaven.

But your god only exist in your brain nobody with working faculty will take you serious.

Jesus is a creation of the Roman empire to deceive you....you fell for it big time..

Continue in your idolatry. See numbers 23:19

Ken4Christ:
Remain in your blindness. Your eyes will clear the day you stand before Jesus to be judged. But it will be too late.

If I tell you, till you stand before Thor, how will you feel?
Judgement takes place on earth. When we expire , our body is buried for it to turn to dust and our spirit returns to God who gave it...
No judgement after death....all lies and deception. Don't fall for it...

SIRTee15:
Believe what I like or it should be are the Jewish scholars right or wrong.

You are just being deceived.

God promised a Messiah.
He is not coming to die...if he died, he can't be a Messiah.
God already gave a solution to the problem of sin. That alone will tell you, he is not coming to die for sin, so what is he coming to do...
This thread will enlighten you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6863821/what-purpose-messiah

Steep:
my God exist, he has historical him on earth but your god is only an imaginary god, even bat man is more real that your god.

The universal eternal spirit..

Not a creation of the Roman empire. Definitely not a man.

But the spirit behind creation.

seunowa:
I was only referring to op who is putting veil on your face not to see light of the gospel of Christ.

Jesus is a creation of the Roman empire. Don't you understand it?

I don't know how else to educate and make you understand. He was created as a mockery to God. There is only one God creator of heaven and earth. There is no other God besides him....

You guys are easy to deceive....

Ken4Christ:
Jesus is the image of the invisible God. Before Abraham, Jesus was. He is God in human flesh. He is currently seated on the right hand of the Father. He is in every book of the Bible. You are suffering from spiritual blindness just like the present day Jews

You are in a lot of deep shit..Jesus was before Abraham as what?.
Jesus is a creation of the Roman empire, the earlier you realize that the better for you.
I understand you have wasted your time believing some shit. But you can always make a u turn...it's not too late..Did you not see the passages I posted of God saying there is no God besides him...

Continue following the idea of man.
Come to your creator.

seunowa:
The guy has made himself a stumbling block for those who are not well established in the knowledge of the cross through which God reconciled humanity to himself by not counting their sins against them.

I can't make heads or tails about this your comment..

I blame Constantine for initiating the council of Nicea. The council that created the character of Jesus. He would have just told everyone in the empire to become Adherents of Mithraism. Which he was till he was on his death bed..No body would have known this man .

The presbyters had to choose between worship of serapis (Christianity) and worship of mithras (Mithraism). They voted to go with Christianity. Right there they formulated the new religion they now called Catholicism. Any body who did not believe the new religion was anathema( as good as dead).
Serapis became Jesus at the council of Ephasius....and they have been killing anybody who does not agree with them.Thdy have sort to exterminate the jews, but as God promised a little remnants always remains...

SIRTee15:
Paul referenced it.
I didn't mention Jesus, use your brain
I said Jewish scholars in BC era believed Hosea 6.1-2 is about a man who died and resurrected on the 3rd day.
That's what I want to give U evidence for but U shit scared of the truth.

Believe what you like....

Steep:
you don't know your creator. I thought you want to prove that echad is not a compound unity.
Jesus is Almighty God.

Eya...your God died, could not withstand 3 nails...so sad..

My God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent....he is not a Jewish man that qas nailed to a cross..My God is the eternal creator. He is one.

MaxInDHouse:
Well i have never ever buried my mentality for someone else because i'm a honest man not a scammer!

Really??

SIRTee15:
oga leave story, u are not a jewish scholar.
if u not scared, allow me to show u what the jewish rabbi in the BC era thought about hosea 6:1-2.

Believe what you like
Any body with half a brain will know there is no Jesus there....no gospel writer quoted it...
Continue deluding yourself.
I have pointed you to the write direction it is up to you to follow..

Ken4Christ:
Jesus is the creator. Nothing existed without him.

You are bringing judgement on yourself.
God is not a Jewish man..

God is the eternal spirit...not a man that was executed on a cross.
Be careful of blasphemy...


See Numbers 23:19.
Educate yourself

Krismas:
u are impressive, I must admit. Indeed as u say, Marduk is Enki’s son and not Enlil. But Enlil is Yahweh and his sigil is the bull or Baal while Enki is Thoth or Triscrown and his sigil is serpent entwined on a stake
Then, Alexander the Great was the son of Marduk and he conquered Egypt precisely to find his real father Marduk. It was in Egypt Alexander was shown the secret tomb of Marduk. The annunakis die. They are not immortal. Infact Anu became king after his father was killed in a coup and I think it was Marduk who killed Enlil.
So, the national god of the Jews is Molech and not any hashem. As for the Yahwites, their god is Yo or Yao or Yahu(Yahoo) or Yahweh.

Whaaaaaat?

Don't let smite you oh..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOoklYj-X1I?si=s2z-MueV9nmjvncm

Steep:
Echad is a compound one.

Lol..

Who do you believe, Paul/Mathew /John or the creator of heaven and earth?

Let me know.
As for me, I believe my creator 10000%

SIRTee15:
If interpretation of the tanakh has never changed, then explain why ancient jewish rabbi believed Isaiah 53 is about a messiah that will die for the sins but modern jews says it's about Israel.
how come we have two different interpretation for same verse in same religion.

We have over flogged this matter...

That's Hosea 6 you presented, why not continue reading to verse 6. Maybe you will learn..
Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant.(Israel) Who where suffering because of the sins of other Jewish people. The servant is the people among Gods people who where suffering with the others Jewish people who God was punishing for their sins..this time they where in exile in Babylon..
God commanded Nebuchadnezzar to take all of them to exile and told them that their only chance of survival was following the Babylonians. But the ones that where obeying God's commandments and living a righteous life and the sinful ones was taken off to exile. In this passage Isaiah was assuring the righteous people(servant) that God has seen their suffering and assure them that their salvation was near...shikenah

There is no Jebus, death or resurrection or second coming...

QuinQ:
I hear ya. I'm just a little bit ashamed 4 u

No wahala..
I no go waste my time. If you grow up you go learn.

QuinQ:
Aren't you a little bit ashamed you believe in mamiwater. People who stay months on the seas (example, Columbus) never encounter any mamiwater or anything more than fish and water!

Guy as you no take believe...e good.

Just leave matter for Matthias..

SIRTee15:
Are U now afraid of what ancient rabbinical believe about their scriptures.
Are U scared it will destroy your erroneous beliefs?
Modern day Jews have been lying to U.
Wake up.

lol

The interpretation of the Tanakh has NEVER changed.
They have passed it on from generation to generation.
Judaism and Christianity are two different religions... Christianity is not derived from the Tanakh. It developed in Egypt as the worship of serapis. No Jesus, all these info where added post Nicea..