Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by sonmvayina(m): 1:32pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: God created all things.
But any being that chooses to disobey God will be punished by God.
God is not a man. What about Jesus?? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by sonmvayina(m): 1:31pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: Christians are human beings that worship God in truth and in spirit by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, who they accepted as the Lord and Saviour
It's occultic people that worship created things and not the creator You are not worshipping the creator.. You are worshipping a man(a Jewish man) as God..That is idolatry if you ask me. God to God directly as he commanded us...try it for one week as see if he will not answer it.. I found God when I drop Jesus. He was the one blocking my access to God. Now I go to my creator directly and he answers all my prayers....no intermediary or middle man...I give him alone all the adoration... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by sonmvayina(m): 1:24pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: That is how God wants his thing to be.
So if we are wise, we better be on God's side and avoid the everlasting fire of torment.
And there's only one way to escape it.
Hope you know it? You did not answer my query? Why would God send his spirit to burn in an everlasting fire? Explain to me how it makes sense to you? When the Bible speaks of salvation it is only from physical danger. David wrote those psalms because Saul was after him.at death, God's spirit returns to him and the body returns to the earth... Why would God send his spirit to "hell"? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by sonmvayina(m): 1:21pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: Christians are human beings that worship God in truth and in spirit by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, who they accepted as the Lord and Saviour
It's occultic people that worship created things and not the creator But God warned every one not to have "any other God before him" meaning no intermediary or middle man...and he also forbids us from worshipping the likeness of anything in heaven like the stars and moon or on earth like human beings and animals or the waters under the earth...don't you think worshipping the likeness of a man (Jesus) is ok with God. As if God knows this will happen. He warned us before hand . Just my advice.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by sonmvayina(m): 1:16pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: God created all things.
But any being that chooses to disobey God will be punished by God.
God is not a man. Yes I understand that... Only man is created in God's image... All others are not.. The devil is just the moon, (the prince of darkness) Satan is the wind (the Lord of the air).. Lucifer is the princess of death... So I don't understand you. If God spirit fails to fulfill it's mission the first time it is sent again and again..till it is done..I don't understand why God will send his spirit to burn in an everlasting fire...does not make sense to me ..does it to you? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by sonmvayina(m): 1:11pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. Yes...I understand that.. The last fight between Marduk( The living God) and inanna ( the Orisha of death). The story says Marduk won at the end..I know that... But humans are God spirit+ dust of the earth. So which one is going to hell, God's spirit or dust of the earth? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by sonmvayina(m): 1:00pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
StillDtruth: When you say "death came for him" or when you confess " you saw hell" were they chairs and plates? It's called personification.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by sonmvayina(m): 12:59pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: Hell is where the devil and his agents are condemned to.... God created it as a punishment for them and any rebellious person who follows after the Devil- Hence it's an enemy of God.
Death is an Enemy of God.
Lake of Fire is where God will destroy all enemies God is the divine universal consciousness...not a man The devil is just the moon (an Orisha) Satan is just the Wind (an Orisha) They are laws and principles of existence. I wonder why Christians worship them? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by sonmvayina(m): 12:56pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: Both are enemies of God.
And they will be destroyed and eternally punished in the presence of God and His holy angels
[i]Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. God get enemy? Do you know the meaning of omnipotent? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by sonmvayina(m): 12:55pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: Hell fire is the wrath of God against his disobedient creatures.
There's is no coming out after a soul enters there until the second death of Lake of Fire where Hell Fire will be thrown into as well.
The devil fights tooth and nail for humans to join in his abode, thinking it will hurt God very much as God loves humans dearly , however God has already made a provision for Man to escape the wiles and deception of the Devil, in the person of Jesus Christ.
See what Jesus Christ said about Hell Fire: Luke 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Accept Jesus as your Lord and Personal Saviour Now No one can fight God Stop listening to the voice of the devil Overcome the power of Sin by accepting the cleansing blood of Jesus..
Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Shalom Where did you get the idea that the devil does whatever he likes? Or you think say the devil no get owner? Or you think there is something God created that he can not control.. Be insulting God while thinking you are making sense... Kontinue |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 12:47pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: So you don't know that Jesus Christ is the one speaking @ Proverbs 8:22-30 because the Bible referred to him as WISDOM shey?
Well see the verse backing up Proverbs 8:22-30 that Jesus is the same person talking:
However, to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is....... the WISDOM of God. 1Corinthians 1:24 It was Enki that was speaking....Not your fairy tale Jesus.... Enki is the god of wisdom Inanna(Lucifer) is the goddess of wisdom. They are both Orisha. ...they both represent law and principle.....within creation. The universe is controlled by laws. Those laws are personified as orishas or god with a small g.... Jesus is a Greek/Roman myth. So stop mixing Babylonian and Greeco/ Roman myth together.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 10:32pm On Aug 02, 2024 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 10:13pm On Aug 02, 2024 |
Kingsempires: No,you are wrong the four gospel where written according to the people which name was written on the gospEl title Do more research.. The gospel were actually written by anonymous authors... Nobody knows who...the Catholic church added those names. |
Christianity Etc › Re: When I Became An Atheist. by sonmvayina(m): 10:10pm On Aug 02, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Guy i'm not interested in your nonsense!  Funny enough it is what it is... We are Gods having a human experience... People like you have not figured it out. Might take you like 10 more life times.. Man is God asleep God is man awake.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 12:50pm On Aug 02, 2024 |
Steep: your god and Harry Potter are in the same category. Thats a 100 marks for you.. They are actually in the same category. They are both characters in a fictional novel...no more no less..and they both have magical powers. The only difference is that we know who wrote the Harry Potter books, but nobody knows who wrote the gospels.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: When I Became An Atheist. by sonmvayina(m): 12:48pm On Aug 02, 2024 |
Steep: lol see rubbish abeg You know what I am talking about.. Your bad head is just trying very hard to ignore it... |
Christianity Etc › Re: When I Became An Atheist. by sonmvayina(m): 12:47pm On Aug 02, 2024 |
Kingsempires: ok that's your believe Has anybody so far been able to describe God? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 10:21am On Aug 02, 2024 |
Steep: ignorant man, so if someone writes in 3rd person pronoun it means they are not eye witnesses? You an ignorant man who don't even know the meaning of eye witness, is calling what professionals has certified to be history, a story. Even a fool has more hope than you.
Proverbs 26:12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him. So harry potter is real? Prove that harry potter and jesus christ are not in the same category... 100 marks |
Christianity Etc › Re: When I Became An Atheist. by sonmvayina(m): 10:18am On Aug 02, 2024 |
Kingsempires: So atheist on this thread,if you people don't believe there is God.so how is you're believe from how the world came to existed Nobody knows... God is actually nothing. Like there was nothing there before the begining... |
Christianity Etc › Re: When I Became An Atheist. by sonmvayina(m): 10:09am On Aug 02, 2024 |
Steep: So who said God is not one? By the way echad in the Torah that describes God's oneness is actually a compound one . God in the Gensis calls himself us? The us in genesis is refering to God and the earth. God breath into man and the earth provided the dust to make the body...same motif in all cultures of the earth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 8:59pm On Aug 01, 2024 |
Kingsempires: Members of nairaland please i want to ask a question oo!!!,nobody should arrest me oo na question i one ask.are JEHOVAH WITNESSES under Christian religion or there are another religion on their own? They are just modern day Arianist. They follow the idea of Arius...who was one of the presbyters at Nicea |
Christianity Etc › Re: When I Became An Atheist. by sonmvayina(m): 8:55pm On Aug 01, 2024 |
Steep: This is Jesus divinity (part of what defines his divinity) Lol How does all these bull shit make any sense to you? God is one indivisible supreme creator of heaven and earth.. Not 3 in one |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 8:53pm On Aug 01, 2024 |
Kingsempires: God is mysterious,3 person in 1 God those not mean God is 3.this is mystery so this is christian believe.the way you believe allah is God is the way christian believe that there are 3person in 1 God.that is mystery is beyond human understanding I am not a Moslem.. I don't subscribe to any of the two demonic religions from the Middle East. I am an African and follow the religion passed down from my ancestors.. We reference one indivisible God, and creator of heaven and earth.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 8:43pm On Aug 01, 2024 |
Steep:
the four books of the gospel contains myriads of names of people who encountered christ. Paul in his letters referenced people who lived and walked with Jesus. Did you go to school at all? Do you know the meaning of 1st 2nd and 3rd person pronouns. The Bible are all written in 3rd person, meaning non is an eye witness account. I want somebody who actually met him. I want to see something like Jesus visited my neighbors house ... Or Jesus told me to feel the jars with water.. Etc. Not a story... Comprende.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: When I Became An Atheist. by sonmvayina(m): 8:32pm On Aug 01, 2024 |
Steep: The evidence proves that there is an immaterial spaceless and timesless being the created the universe. Evidence proves the universe (matter and space-time) had a beginning. Meaning whatever caused the universe into being is immaterial, spaceless and timeless, this is the basic definition of God. It is an illogical belief to assume the universe is eternal and also illogical to belief that the universe was created by nothing. Is this Jesus ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When I Became An Atheist. by sonmvayina(m): 8:04pm On Aug 01, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Who taught you that God created a Satan? Who taught you that God is omnipresent? Who taught you the tree of good and evil?
Now you are the one referring to what was written in books.
Please let us leave the books and whatever is found written in them for now and use our own intelligence.
So the question again:
What would you have done about mankind if you're a supreme ruler? Since I am a supreme being. That is I am omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. So I will play a game, where I will give myself amnesia. It like a game of hide and seek. And I spend the next 70+ years trying to figure who I am... Simples... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 7:43pm On Aug 01, 2024 |
Steep: go and search it up for yourself, the web is open for all. The problem is ignorant people like you just come up writing jargons you know nothing about. Historians have carefully and tortuously scrutinized the four books of the new testaments including non Christian sources and have come to a conclusion that Jesus was an historical figure even though they doubt Jesus divinity as claimed by Christians but they nevertheless conclude based on evidences present that Jesus is an historical figure. Judy give me 1, Uno, , ofu....I will wait. If they are many it won't be hard. Because it will be in heard of for the "son of God" to make an entrance and no body noticed it....hmm |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by sonmvayina(m): 6:45pm On Aug 01, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: Why did it stand if Jesus is not real? And why Jesus? Use your small brain. Jesus is Lord. Because they killed a lot of people to propagate the lie...go and find out the history of Christianity. It will shork you. So instead of you and your family been slaughtered , just believe and go to church...you live.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by sonmvayina(m): 6:42pm On Aug 01, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: The God of this world is holding you captive. I pray you will see the light very soon and be free. Jesus Christ is a myth The earlier you know it the better you start acting like a grown up.. Send me your email let me send you a video |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 6:40pm On Aug 01, 2024 |
Steep: No evidence for this your god, it only exist in your mind just like Spiderman only exist in the mind of comics fans. Jesus christ has historical records that even atheists scholars and non christians scholars including agnostic schlras can only but agree Jesus is truly a historical figure but you an ignorant man on Nairaland thinks otherwise with your "trust me bro" as source. Give me one thing that somebody who saw him said about him, even if the person does not believe in him... I will wait. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by sonmvayina(m): 6:38pm On Aug 01, 2024 |
Kingsempires: as i said christian believe that Jesuschrist is God that came in human form through virgin mary.according to christian mythology,Jesus christ is God the son and no one can come through God the father accept through him[john 14:6] But God already warned us "Do not have any other god before me"... Looks like it's all about breaking all of the creators commandments... That's already a fail.. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Anjem Choudary: Notorious UK Islamist Preacher Jailed For Life (Photo) by sonmvayina(m): 7:42am On Aug 01, 2024 |
Burger01: UK is a breeding ground for radical terrorists. The government should step up their games against these bomb people. They are wicked in their ways and in their thinkings. I wonder how a man will kill people in the name of his Allah. Let Allah kill those he wants to kill by himself.  We both know Allah can't do that... |