lipsz: I attended a particular church some weeks ago and the pastor said something quite catchy...
He told us that those who dont partake of the holy communion will not make it to heaven. How true is this please?
He also made mention of another 30% apart from the usual 10% that we all know as tithe, stating that as Christians we are only entitled to 60% of our monthly earnings (10% for tithe and 30% for church project seed) he proved the 30% from the Bible but I wasn't listening cos I was still wondering how we get to go home with just 60% every month.
Can someone please expantiate on the 30% offering if it actually exists...
No need to insult the pastor, just comment if he's right or not, thanks.
Butterflyleo: On the other hand hopefullandlord if you feel you can do a much better job than the OP then ask him to step down so you can take over from his obvious featherweight attempts so far. That would be a more noble thing to do than to desperately try to derail as you are attempting to do.
Kindly stop posting on this thread. This is STRICTLY between myself and the OP. If you wish to post then ask him to step down so you can take over.
I will consider shitting bricks if he takes you up on this...
GoodMuyis: This your pattern of argument is too early, you should have saved it till when you dont have any point to say.
[1] Pls learn what deity or god is and compare them, dont use your assumption or personal inadequate understanding on the subject
[2] Intelligent design? there lot of point that i can raised to prove the intelligent design, starting from simplex. if you study how the Eye work and its structure it take more than just a chance to build that up.
[3] Firstly, dont mistake god for God, or you can avoid confusion by using Yahweh. Not all deity (gods) were claim to be the creator.
Secondly the verse you quote can be assumed that you accept God or Yahweh exit and you could as well assume Yahweh is an inventor, in same scientific pattern you could assume man inherit creativity of invention from Yahweh since he (man) is image/likeness of Yahweh.
Thirdly, few of men may be feeble in strength, But Majority are strong in Mental Capability. Record has it that man did actually domesticate most of the animal we see around us. watch video below as see how 3 ordinary men chase away pack of lions
I know you have ever wonder why it is only man that build/create/invent big things and continue to do so, but animals are same way they are not developing. Up till now i have never seen any animal cooking its food before eating. in summary the Strength of man lies inside its skull.
Meanwhile show in a well outline point why Yahweh does not exit, i believe you cant find any scientific research that stated so
allow himself and our butterfly friend dig this before they use our comments as an excuse to bail.
Psalms 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. 91:2 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. 91:3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. 91:5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; 91:6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. 91:7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. 91:8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. 91:9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; 91:10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. 91:11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. 91:12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. 91:14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him. 91:16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
blessedvisky: The butterfly guy was asking the Frank guy if he (Frank) addressed his Christian wife the same way he addressed Christians online. The Frank guyn ever gave a concrete response but resorted to insult butterfly's mom. Which one of the two deserves to be reported in your own opinion?
my brother help ask am... probably my grammar was too simple.
Butterflyleo: When did asking questions become having a go on a personal level with him? He should at least try and answer and then I will shut up
Since he is married to a christian woman who believes in an "imaginary God" why does he find it impossible to directly shut her down as he always tries to do to other Christians on nairaland. Is that not hypocrisy?
If he cannot firmly stamp out Christianity in his home what right has he got to attack Christians or their beliefs on nairaland?
Haywhaie: When a bastard calls me gay for standing up for an oppressed minority with a different sexual orientation, I give the animal the appropriate, inhumane response deserved by retärds and baboons like him. And you happen to fall under that group of cretins and moröns.
"Human" and you bonobos shouldn't be in the same sentence. There's nothing human about savages who want another to suffer for trying to enjoy sex in the way that gives him pleasure - a means that harms nobody either directly or indirectly. I have nothing but contempt for such subhumans, and cannever treat or regard them as humans.
Idiots like you are not worthy of me.
hopefullandlord come and see another of your brothers...
hopefulLandlord: If you can't see it then I can't help you sir, you're being wilfully dishonest by pretending throughout the conversation Butter hasn't also gotten personal with frank too. I won't humour you by going to highlight it. if you can't see it for yourself then its okay for you to have reported only Frank. I guess its easier to see when "one of them" is wrong rather than when "one of us" / "both of them" are
Who cares if you avoid arguments?
classic response from the 'Landlord'... shifty, dodgy and hypocritical.
Now its possible its a mistake on Butter's part to which he would've simply said "I made a mistake, I wasn't referring to you" OR "I never knew you weren't an atheist" but he went on denying, even posted screenshots and coped and pasted the Convo like it changes what's there. Why double down at all?
it is very clear you never understood his response... you probably just skimmed through the post.
hopefulLandlord: Hypocrite! both of them are having a go at each other on a personal level and you reported just one person. I did follow their conversation and it still further exposes you for the hypocrite you are. If you weren't a hypocrite you'd report both of them
this is why I avoid arguments... can you quote the post by our 'butterflyfriend' on this thread that deserves to be reported for going overboard...?
hopefulLandlord: Hypocrite, I'm sure you don't see two people Tangoing, you only saw one person doing the tango with himself by himself . You'll be delighted if the only one you reported is banned and the other left hey?
go back and follow their conversation before you start addressing people by your middle name...
Butterflyleo: Your buddy Tohzara or whatever his moniker is was the one who went around attacking everyone and insulting their families and parents and wishing them.death and that got him banned repeatedly but he kept reappearing with other monikers. Also I believe his comments were also taken down due to their rather graphic content. I did not want to engage him especially since he also targeted me so I simply edited his comments directed at me and made them refer to him whenever I responded to him.
If you check, that was what I did and that was what made him stop. True or false?
You lie so shamelessly.
hopefully his buddy isn't his alternate monicker...
sonofthunder: 1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
There is no fear in love [dread does not exist], but full-grown (complete, perfect) love [g]turns fear out of doors and expels every trace of terror! For fear [h]brings with it the thought of punishment, and [so] he who is afraid has not reached the full maturity of love [is not yet grown into love's complete perfection].
Butterflyleo: Yet your wife is serving a non existent being right?
Have you told her? Can you tell her? Do you have the liver to tell her?
Do you always get mad at your wife for being a christian? When you do, do you show her? Can you show her?
I think she wears the pants in your home since you find it cowardly to tell her your mind right in your own home but she is not afraid to show her Christianity to you and call on this "non existent" God right under your nose and to your face all day every day and even right into your bedroom.
Can you beat that?
Proverbs 28:1 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.
budaatum: Diversion? My bad. It is not my expectation that the vast number of churches in Nigeria will all survive as people's eyes will eventually open and they will drag their gods out of the buildings and into their hearts where it would be used to love their fellow human beings. You did see the thread where churches in UK were being shut down, no? It would be naive to think Nigerians will continue to buy what their churches sell them. We will not be fooled forever.
Again, sorry about the diversion. It was not intended to obscure my glee.
budaatum: I usually ask for evidence but I doubt you would make this up. We will find out if you have lied, and it will severely ruin your reputation. There is no way you could be so stupid! And no, I do understand how it might not be so simple as just posting the letter on here.
So, it would seem to me that RCCG is going through the same hardship that First Bank is going through except that while FB sends a txt sacking staff, RCCG is cutting pay in half.
Times must be getting hard. I knew that Daddy Freeze was spoiling business!
I see what you did there, diversion before condemnation. well its a classic with you.