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dalaman:
What is God, because God means different things to different people. God to the pantheist is very different to what God is to the Muslim. God to the Christian is totally different to what the Taoist believes as God or what a scientologist believes as God. You can NOT just talk about God without specifically telling us which God because God has NO universal acceptance or definition.

Again what is God?

I don't know if this has been trashed but what does God mean to you?

MORNDEW:
Is there anything we Crucified GEJ for, that has not Happened in this Administration?
This was an article I saw on front page this morning https://www.nairaland.com/4405472/there-anything-crucified-gej-hasnt. As usual, the comments showed the lack of intelligence and the childish nature of the average politics section nairalander. Let me not write long epistles but below are things we Crucified GEJ for, that has not Happened in this Administration

1. Immigration Job Scam: The last administration wasted the lives of over 19 graduates and injured hundreds in a nonexistent immigration Job after collecting #1000 application fee from the applicant. The culprit in that she of shame Abba Moro, was left untouched.

2. Depleted Foreign Reserve: My friends, may our lives not be depleted the way the former administration depleted our foreign reserve. The administration of the ineffectual buffoon inherited $47.7 but depleted and squandered it to about $29 before leaving office. This came at a time when oil price was high.

3. Seized Aircraft carrying military weapons: In a show of shame and national disgrace, an aircraft belonging to a man who goes pastor Ayo Oritsejafor and loaded with military weapons was seized by SouthAfrican Authorities because it was illegally used in acquiring military weapons. Reporters agreed that the said aircraft had former militant leader Asari Dokubo on board. Where in the world do military weapons get acquired using a former rebel and the aircraft of a funny looking man of God? Only in the last administration.

4. Upsurge of Boko Haram: The former administration of the Kindergarten president saw the upsurge of Boko Haram. The terrorists, seized and controlled territories in Nigeria almost the size of Belgium. The terrorists grew from strength to strength. Institutions were easily bombed. UN building, Thisday building, St. Theresa Catholic Church etc. Abuja the Federal capital territory was not spared. Today BH has been decimated and confined to a hideout with pockets of attacks.

5. Borrowing to pay salaries: in continuation of the show of shame of the former administration, The former administration was borrowing to pay salaries at a time of many. A serious government borrow to develop infrastructure not to pay salaries.

6. Arrest of Opposition leaders before Elections. The kindergarten former administration made it a habit to arrest opposition leaders before elections. A day to the election in Osun State, opposition leaders like Lai Mohammed were arrested and detained till after the election. El-Rufai was arrested and detained in Anambra on the day of the governorship election. Same thing with Ekiti state election where arm banded military men were used to rig election.

7. Stealing is not corruption: The former accidental public servant, on a live media chat said stealing was not corruption. The body language and utterances of the former president upsurged corrupt practices and made it look like a culture.

8. Crass Crude First Lady: The former weak President had no control of the wife, who made mockery of her role as the wife of the president. A woman who threw decorum to the gutters and behaved like 17th century cave women. She went ahead to impose candidates and even acted like the president of the country as was observed by former President Olusegun Obasanjo in his book.

9. Release of Chibok girls: girls were kidnapped in Chibok and a president who went to dance later could not release them until this administration. It took this administration tactics and experience to release the girls the former administration could not.

You see, one thing is to criticize this present administration for its short coming on different national issues but trying to compare this administration with the last amounts to insult on intelligent Nigerians. The last administration was a disaster. Given the circumstances and same scenario before 2015 presidential election, reverse that same election Nigerians would still elect president Buhari.

Nairaland has lost all forms of credibility by allowing illiterates to roam here polluting this place with their illiteracy hence it now looks like every Nigerian is that way. Stupid unintelligent comments now get likes and the illiterates are urged on by those likes to make more damaging comments that looks like it's the right thing.


one thing is to come here and show your shallowness and another thing is to face facts and reality. That you get likes from nonsense does not make it normal. People come here to disgrace their families and themselves and think it's the right thing.

Forgive me for missed punctuations and mistakes cos I just took time from my busy schedule to write this and set the records straight. And to also show that there are people on this forum who don't easily forget.

MORNDEW
Writer, Public Affairs Analyst and Social Commentator
amadiprincewill1@gmail.com

Can someone lease verify the figures in number two... I'm not 100% sure the op is correct.

winner01:
Not bad, just relieving the win against Chelsea and bam! I saw something's atheists will likely ridicule if it was the topic of a nairaland thread.

Lol... Let's pray they see the light sooner rather than later and also for them to walk in it.

winner01:
Thanks Bro. How's it going?

very well sir. how's your end?

trending...

FaithfulServant:
Yeah, that is another good example that is related to this. The Holy Spirit descending on the early apostles "like" a fire and not in the form of a fire.

So also I believe the Holy Spirit descended on Jesus during His baptism like a dove and not in the the form of a dove.

Or do you think otherwise?

nope... ride on sir.

winner01:
I greet you Sir

I greet you "righteously" sir!

FaithfulServant:
I get your point but understand the simile "as" and "like" as used in the topic.

I mean did the Holy Spirit descend on Jesus in the form of a dove as so many believe, or in some other form?

Acts
2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues "LIKE" as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

winner01:
Football is a neutral game and I'm a Barcelona fan. I also believe that Lionel Messi is the greatest footballer ever. I was delighted when Messi's sorcery saw off Chelsea in the champions league's Round of 16 a few days ago. I was particularly happy because of the hurt feelings of Chelsea fans. Prior to the match, there were several bants such as "Messi has never scored against Chelsea", "Chelsea knows how to handle Barcelona", "Hazard is on par with Messi". I'm happy that they can finally shut up for a long time.

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Before the game between Barcelona and Chelsea, the lower Camp Nou stand was covered by a banner that read "God save the King", which is a wordplay on the famous British national anthem "God save the Queen". The implications of the fans was as clear as day, Lionel Messi is the King of Barcelona, Camp Nou, Champions league and football in general.

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Messi reacted on instagram to the gesture of the fans writing "Thank you for this display of affection, reception and support throughout the game! Nice night!!! Let's go for more!.

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Atheists complain often about religious people trying to force their God ideas down their throats in neutral settings such as schools, markets, workplaces etc and they have voiced out in several developed countries in order to protect themselves and their children from the "poison" of religion. Even though most people don't take them seriously, they take offences easily and make serious legal cases against religious activities, religious statues etc in developed countries. A few examples are shown below:

Sueing a President over religious freedom law

Sueing a school over bible course

Sueing an animal shelter


[url=https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2018/january/atheist-group-targets-secretive-white-house-cabinet-bible-study%3famp]Sueing a political cabinet for bible study[/url]

Sueing a chaplain

Sueing a judge over courtroom prayers

Sueing over religious electioneering

Sueing a city

Sueing the process of baptism

Sueing a political party

Sueing a high school over prayers

Sueing a football program

Sueing a christian cross image

Sueing for allowance of atheist weddings

Sueing a baker for refusing to bake an atheist wedding cake

Sueing a christian statue

getting God out of football

Sueing the Lords prayer

and several other legal cases of offence.

Its only in Nigeria and maybe nairaland that we have toothless dogs atheists, foreign atheists will take offence at almost any religious exercise, even a christmass banner and take legal action.

Well, we must give credit to Christianity and the freedom associated with it. They dare not try these in Islamic countries or even Buddhist countries and other religious environments else they will pay dearly.


Many people have theorized that because of the terribly minimal population of world atheists (2-5% of world's population), they try viciously to make their voices heard by means such as taking offences, making legal cases, teaming up with people with special sexual orientations, toxic feminists etc, all in a bid to increase their numbers and thereby make their voices heard.


So far I'm yet to see any objection from atheists to this phrase used by Barcelona fans in Camp Nou, especially considering the fact that even less harmful phrases have been heavily criticized by god-hating atheists in [url=https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2018/january/atheists-seek-end-to-high-school-football-prayer-mdash-but-just-watch-the-amazing-way-these-students-react%3famp]developed countries[/url] and even here on nairaland religion section.


Yet, many atheists seem undisturbed by "deluded" religious people forcing down their the idea of a God down their throats in a neutral setting such as Camp Nou, Barcelona. It really got me thinking about why this could be so. I came up with just 3 possible reasons:

1. No one really cares, its just a sport.
But if this is the case, there have been atheistic organizations that fight against such prayer in a sports team.
2. It will constitute a nuisance if atheist voice out their discontent and people will see them for the "attention seeking" lot that they really are.
3. Atheists have no issues with religious people doing their thing in their religious circles, they are only concerned if religious people try to put their ideas to them in a neutral setting.
But the Barca vs Chelsea atmosphere was a perfect example of a neutral setting, and the Nairaland religion section is supposed to be an example of a religious circle. Yet we see actions contradicting this point.




I found the second possible reason most plausible. Several attention seeking atheists, as evident on nairaland, would rather cowardly pleasure in dwelling on a religious circle to spread their hatred for God and dehumanize God loving people, instead of addressing a set of persons spreading their God ideas in a neutral setting, reaching a larger number of people. What if atheist children were present at the Camp Nou stadium or watched the game on TV.
Doing this will obviously make the world see them for the attention seeking lot which they are and so its best to hide in religious circles and ridicule religious people and their beliefs.
The writing in the Camp Nou stadium is just one great example out of many, there are several other footballers, some of which are shown below, who have also demonstrated "deluded" religious activities and gestures on a neutral pitch. Activities and gestures which are enough for god-hating atheists to take offense and voice out. Unfortunately, cowards choose their battles carefully.


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Finally and I've said this before, majority of reasonable people do not really care what you don't believe or what you once believed. People care what you do believe and what you can do. Many atheists on nairaland and in many parts of the world are specialized talkatives and nothing more. Only a microscopic percentage of atheists really show the world what they can do, people like Hawkings for instance. Ironically, the majority of atheists rely on what religious people can do and then bash them when they bring their religion into it.

If atheists are all they claim to be, "science oriented, covered in logic, baptized in reason, forerunners of development, custodians of truth etc. The world would have taken seriously the products of the small percentage of world atheists and begin to consider atheism as a valid worldview which promotes development since most atheists argue that religion represses development. The arguments for atheism till date has still not disproved it as a bleak, hopeless, worthless, senseless and odious worldview. I'm hoping atheists can work more and show us what they can do rather than attempt to cowardly bully religious people to accept their empty views. Maybe then, the world will begin to consider the importance of atheism, if there's indeed any.

Nice post winner01... You always hit them below the belt... Lol.

Hello sciencewatch, not sure I've introduced you to my friend winner01... He's a terror to atheists on nairaland, lol. If you listen carefully, you'll hear them PRAYING for him not to be on the RELIGIOUS section... He is never nice with them.
Well I think the op is a better description of what I'm trying to say. Enjoy!

petra1:
Those who used to argue with us that it’s only Africa that has issues with demons , spirit . Witcraft should read this

they will still come here and spill 'baseless' trash.

ScienceWatch:
welcome back mighty warrior. Yes indeed, The highly esteemed Butterfly1on is a sight to behold. He weaves his way through the shadow of the valley of death like a skilled Ninja.

We have observed his humility only in the face of truth, never toward swine.

Scientifically verifiable evidence of the superior might of Jesus Christ is increasing the FAITH of believers world wide.

Thank you sir, you are far too kind. I call butterflylion and kingebukasblog ninja/shadow athiest slayer(s) cause whenever they appear those fellows be crawling back into their 'closed places'... Lol.

Nairalandtwins:
Hello Nairalanders. Pls pardon typos and blunders incase of any because I am grossly angry right now.

My twin brother has been addicted to pornography and masturbation for some years now, although I started it since 2006 and stopped in 2016 since I noticed the terrible negative effects on every aspect of my life. All efforts to make him stop proved abortive.

In 2016 he had psychological issues and was admitted in the hospital for a month and he was fine and back to his normal self. At the hospital I read an article here on Nairaland that masturbation can cause brain issues then it dawned on me that that was the cause for his illness but I didn't disclose it to the doctor and my parents...

He promised and swore to me to never to masturbate again. I've been watching him closely and studying him and I am still noticing signs, he probably has stopped masturbating but he still watches porn which also has negative effects on his brain....

Fast forward to what happened this evening. Before I tell you what happened lemme tell you this too. He doesn't have any vision, no plans, no idea, he just sits at home and wait for his twin bro to bring money home or call mom and dad to help him with cash all these things irritates me so bad. Funnily enough he always talk about having a girlfriend, he tells me being single doesn't make sense and I react and tell him, which lady will stay with you when you have no vision and plans for yourself let alone for her..

Back to the matter, this evening I returned back home from hustle with some good profit... I can't remember when last I made such money in a day since this government took over... So I transferred 5k out of the money to his account to help me withdraw from the bank and pay some debts. After spending hours out there I decided to call him and he says "bro I went to see my babe" 30 mins later he calls back

Him: Hello bro, something happened o

Me: what happened

Him: I bought drinks 2k for me and my babe

Me: what the heck? My sweat? I'm very infuriated

Him: pls bro I am sorry bro pls..

Me: *calms down* I have heard you

Him: bro can I go and chill again and relax with another 2k

Me: I give up do whatever you like... *ends call*

How can I help him pls

Mods pls move this to the front page so people can see the negative effects of masturbation and porn and I also need help for him. Thank you

2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

2 Thessalonians 3:11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.

2 Thessalonians 3:12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

Thou shalt arise, and have mercy upon Zion: for the time to favour her, yea, the set time, is come.

bloggers...

ScienceWatch:
welcome back mighty warrior. Yes indeed, The highly esteemed Butterfly1on is a sight to behold. He weaves his way through the shadow of the valley of death like a skilled Ninja.

We have observed his humility only in the face of truth, never toward swine.

Scientifically verifiable evidence of the superior might of Jesus Christ is increasing the FAITH of believers world wide.

true words sir, and the gates of hell cannot prevail...

ScienceWatch:
I wish Sonofthunder could see this. Where are you?

Good day sir, I've been on and off for a while but being seeing a few posts on said thread especially by the 'highly esteemed' butterflylion. I'm definitely late to this party but will do well to follow others. (p.s I plan on going through the thread)

Princesteve7248:
Fiverr is real, I made over 180k within 3 months

if you don't mind sir, what service(s) do you offer on fiver?

BedLam:
Still didn't give the answer sir/ma.

I gave you the source so you can study the passage and other things related to the title for the sake of better understanding, I'm not mummy GO or any of that. though the thread seems to show a choice from you to be close minded towards responses.

why did you want God to speak to you again?

Judges 5:7 The inhabitants of the villages ceased, they ceased in Israel, until that I Deborah arose, that I arose a MOTHER IN ISRAEL.



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Cc: Bedlam and others.

dingbang:
Lol.. Sheeples everywhere.


Bros no worry yaself, who don foolish, don foolish


Just forget the matter

it's a title gotten from the bible just like most things in church like parish names, special programs, etc.

BedLam:
Does Anyone Understand The Meaning Of This ?

Took this at the airport and just want to know what " The office of the mother in Isreal" means.

it's a title gotten from the bible just like most things in church like parish names, special programs, etc.

miraokocha:
It is jealousy that will kill you. Is it because you did not finish with first class? Or is it because they did not give you anything?

my sister, that escalated quickly now...

superhumanist:
The irony. If only you knew how people ridicule the flgreed for money in Pentecostal churches.

okay...

petra1:
Really out of context . Its very clear in the Bible that people had the option of giving cash instead of livestock . Those who deal in unclean animals , perishable crops etc all gave cash for first fruits , Tithe’s or offerings

Numbers 18:15-16 (BBE)
15 The first birth of every living thing which is offered to the Lord, of man or beast, is to be yours; but for the first sons of man payment is to be made, and for the first young of unclean beasts. 16 Payment is to be made for these when they are a month old, at the value fixed by you, a price of five shekels by the scale of the holy place, that is, twenty gerahs to the shekel.

Payment was made by cash as Firsfruit in place of firstborn or animals

even he knows he is deceiving himself, i but I really wanted to see how long he would ridicule himself to the world. dude is clearly living in denial.

superhumanist:
Ransom.......paying for something in return.

When has redeeming livestock and harvest with money turned to paying first fruit?


See how una pentecostal people dey lie?

you are still sounding vague man... you are still out of context.

superhumanist:
Keep quiet and stop trying to twist scriptures. There is no where in that chapter of leveticus that people were instructed to bring their first monetary income (shekels) as offerings. Emphasis on 'first'.

simple question, what does the bible mean by redeem?

hakimi1974:
read this. i hope it will enligten you. https://www.livescience.com/51656-static-electricity.html

I think I understand the concept but not how her body developed the static charges you suggested given the narrative... I think the reason by goodmuyis could hold to some extent though.

superhumanist:
I just read your leveticus 27 and I don't see first fruit paid in money.
Lies. Stop being a lai Muhammad

the word redeem was used in several places... what do you think it means?

PSTEMMA1960:
home to win..

Ahhh... lemme not say more before nairalanders misunderstand what I mean.